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I was convinced that Kae was going home because she got a LOT of face time and really, she is a big "threat". GG, 25%! Dave really was a class act. It's interesting that Amy was in on it and that she blames Neil. I really, really want her gone. More than Neil, I want her off my screen. She is so freaking annoying.

Well, I didn't believe that I could think of Amy as more of a chickenshit than I already did, but I have to say she doesn't disappoint. I'm just surprised that she didn't blame her vote on Kim.

No joke! "I was pressured *sob*." Ugh. I can't decide whose crying I hate more, Amy's or Nicole's. Nicole's crying bugs because it seems so theatrical and fake, but Amy's bugs just because she's so juvenile.

I was really surprised that Kae didn't get voted out since Alison brought up her huge numbers so pointedly and all. I hate the voting part of this show. I wish they had designed it so that the person with the lowest percentage each week left, like that horrible Cheerleader show on CMT.

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Amy sucks. I hate all the eye rolling and game playing she is doing. Yes, I know its a game, but like was said last week, everyone is trying to improve herself. Her comments show she is not there to improve herself, but to get the money. Its like she said -"I"m a big fat slob, I can lose a lot of weight, I bet I could win - how hard could it be?" I hope her sorry ass goes home soon. Glad Kai was saved. The other chick on that group looked like she was going to barf any minute. Why didn't she cheer up when it became evident she was safe. Only what, 4 guys left? Hmm.

Can we please leave watergate 534 behind us now? It sucked, lets get back to normal now.

I know! I was like, "Way to point out how the rest of the contestants should vote, Sweeney! Taking hosting tips from Propst??" Guess it's only fair, this stopped being a program about "doing something this week you can be proud of" and started being like every other reality TV show last week...

David's homecoming and update made me cry, dammit. And I didn't even really care for him. I blame hormones. And also several glasses of wine.

Except that it's still having repercussions.

It sounded like Isabeau may have waterloaded knowing that Neal was piss out a good number. And Whiny-Ass-Titty-Baby Amy's team was saved b/c of her waterloading last week.

Oh, and Neal's bullshit about how there's no red-blue alliance was just that, bullshit. The reality is that Neal's team consisted of a blue team member (him) and a black team member (Isabeau). So it's no surprise the red team member up for elimination got their vote. It doesn't mean there's no red-blue alliance, it just means he didn't have the votes to torpedo another black team member.

Fuck off you fat fuck Neal.

I too for sure thought it would be Kae just with all the face time she was getting and the reminding her about her numbers and with the bit about her almost going home at the beginning. I'm glad it wasn't, but the whole thing was still sad.

And at least Amy still majorly sucks.

Switching up the teams is ridiculous. The producers should have realized that the instant the teams intermingled that some people would be on teams with people they WANTED to get rid of (haven't they ever watched Survivor?) This makes waterloading and various other behaviors designed to throw the round almost a given.

There aren't any guarantees, but the best way to prevent behavior of this sort is to keep people on teams with people who they don't want to see leave (i.e. themselves and their original teammates) and to not let people know they have immunity, ever.

The team mix-ups were a very poor production decision.

I'm very annoyed. My VCR automatically changed times Saturday even though they've moved the beginning of Daylight Savings Time. I was really looking forward to this episode. Did I miss a good one?

Euw, god. That's a flashback I didn't need. ;)

During the elimination ceremony (or whatever the heck it's called), I am constantly distracted by Nicole's overwhelming hair. Girl needs a cut and style, stat.

I'm still hoping Neil and Amy are off my TV soon.

Everytime Allison announces a reward challenge, I expect her to ask: "Wanna know what you're playing for?"

Could ABC have made the elimination more obvious? With 2 votes for David and one for Kae, they cut to a commercial on the next vote. Well duh, it's going to be for David. If it was for Kae, they would have shown it brining the votes to a 2-2 tie and then cut to the "suspenseful" commercial break next. Cutting to one when they did made it pretty clear that the next vote would be the deciding one, ie. David.

And what was with the host painting a huge target on Kae like that? Yeah, I'm sure that it was in the minds of many of them that she was the biggest loser so far, but hey, let's point it out in big neon letters in front of the entire group!!

Shut up, Amy. Not many people make me go to Kim's side, but damn, I don't blame her for wanting the team to vote your fat ass off.

How much did I love Jillian when she said, "If you want to be healthy, all you have to do is exercise, eat healthy food, and shut up and listen to me."

Was it just me or did it look like both Neil and Ryan fell asleep in a tanning booth?

I don't hate Neil, even though I feel like I'm supposed to. I guess because it seems naive to believe that he's the only one who pulls stuff like this. He just sucks at being sneaky. Amy did it, Ryan probably did it, and Isabeau did it this week. It's all part of the game, and I'm sure it has been since the first season.

I try really hard to like Hollie, but I feel like every time the camera is on her she's pouting like an petulant teenager.

Well, if tonight's episode clarified something for me, it's that I want to live in a world where people suffer consequences for their bad behaviour. Even on certain reality TV shows. (This was never in question, really, but I was reminded of it, once again, tonight.) Neil (and his colluding blue-team colleagues) may not have broken any rules, but he certainly cheated, and I expected for him to be penalized in some way for it, as many of us discussed last week.

If he were REALLY contrite, he could have voluntarily taken some sort of ahit; but of course he'd never do that, 'cause he's still playing the game. There's an old saying I used to hear in my childhood: "Cheaters never prosper." Baloney! They certainly seem to on The Biggest Loser.

I loved Jillian's response to Amy, when Amy confessed that she had cheated to. But I was so disappointed in Bob. After his outrage last week, to be all sing-songy, oh, we'll just put it behind us and move on really bugged. I was expecting and hoping for some serious attitude towards Neil, and the entire blue team for that matter.

Of course, the trainers can only do what the producers allow them to do, but, seriously, tonight's episode sends a really bad message.

This season isn't as bad as the Rob-and-Amber season of the Amazing Race (which killed that show for me for a couple of seasons), but it's in the same category.

TBL producers: Shame on you! You just told the kids that it was OK to piss in the pool.

Did anyone else love--in a love to hate her guts sort of way--Amy's face as her team's vote was read? She had the worst type of pouty/bitchy/stuck up princess face. The only thing missing was her stomping her feet and yelling "You guys, why do you hate me!" Man, do I really dislike her. Out of all the contestants, even Niel, I think that she was is the least deserving person. That said, I think she has totally been playing possum by not trying hard in workouts; she will probably, to my chagrin, end up lasting a long time.

I was not a huge fan of David, but was very glad to see his progress and his family looked pretty supportive.

I'm pissed that while Amy was being a bitchopatomus in the bedroom no one didn't turn to her and say now I can see why Amy wanted your ass voted out of the game. Jill should have really torn into her when she was "confessing" about being "pressured" into playing the game by Neil instead of losing weight last week. Then she turns around and rants about the game again clearly showing that the money is more important to her than actually losing the weight. What a smug uggggh. Whatever I'm out of words for her. I think I hate her more than I ever hated Kai if that's possible.

Same here. I think Neil did what any of them are capable of doing, he just did it really badly and ended up with a neon arrow over his head. I think that despite Amy's confession, Ryan waterloaded last week also and clearly Isabeau did this week. Neil's big sin is not that he waterloaded, but that he really and truly sucked at doing so. The nice thing about that is that I'm fine with any of them going home. I don't dislike most of them at all, but ultimately this is a contest with money on the line, and it does show at times.

Oddly the person I am really not particularly liking at present is Kae. I wish her well in her weight loss, and feel certain she will succeed, but please spare me the crocodile tears after last week's elimination. The dramatic bag packing, and picture ripping down was no better (or worse) than Amy's grandstanding dramatics.

Still, it is impossible for me to actually dislike any of these people. They are all there for a very important reason beyond the money, and I wish them all well with it. I end up cheering for the all the people who are eliminated, but David's wife with that look of sheer delight when she put her arms around him made me tear up.

In a complete aside, good lord, what are they doing to Alison's hair? She's sweet, and I believe she truly cares about the contestants. That said? Oh lord lady, your hair is very, very stressed and TBL's hairdressers aren't helping!

I'm distracted more by how fat her face looked when she was sitting down. It was probably the way she wore her hair that made it look like that.

Anyway, I thought Kae was toast, too. I'm glad she wasn't only because they sent home David, who was so clearly in on the whole thing last week, despite what he claims (if he hadn't been in on it, he'd have voted Neil out last week instead of Jez). If I can't have Amy off for being a whiny drama queen, Ryan or Nicole for just being . . . there, or Neil off for being pure scum, then I'll take David. Won't be missing Cowboy at all. Was I the only one unmoved by his final words to everyone else?

Who'd have thought the only two POCs on the show this season would be the last two original members of the Red Team standing?

I am disillusioned. I guess TPTB are on an extra special dose of "we don't care about misconduct as long as no one dies and the ratings aren't adversely affected" meds.

I am sorry, Board, b/c my posts are usually much bubblier than this, but I am very disappointed.



I'd move off of Planet Earth then.

Save me a spot on the ship, too, please. (I mostly eat lowcarb - go Blue Team - but will bring vodka and Snickers for takeoff and reentry.)

I'm not sure what Bob is expected to do though. Amy also admitted to wrong doing, though she blamed it on Neil--and Jillian didn't refuse to train her or give her a cold shoulder. He is a trainer. His job is to make them work out and get them to lose weight and be healthy. If he walks away and gives them the cold shoulder, what does that do? They're still here at camp and it is his job. Plus you would have to imagine as much as he may hate what was done, he still has a relationship with these people.

If anything, Bob was being tougher on Neil this week in regards to his workouts. So, I kind of think Bob is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.

So Kim has all of one person left to train, huh. Sucks for her.

I actually found myself more annoyed by the black team women this week who spent the whole beginning sulking and playing the martyr card. No, I don't like what Neil did and he is far from my favorite, but the we have integrity bullshit was annoying. Yeah, Kae was sort of doing it too, but I guess I have a double standard since I like her.

Annoying as it was, I agreed with either Julie or Isabeau that one simple "I'm sorry" from Neil at the weigh-in just wasn't gonna fly.

I have the misfortune of being in San Francisco right now, where there was an earthquake at 8:04pm. So I missed everything before Kae said she almost went home. Anyone with details would be greatly appreciated.

Onward ...

I adore Kae and I absolutely believed her remorse, but perhaps I was predisposed to. It really did seem like her falling to team politics and gameplay was about a moment of weakness, fear, and loyalty rather than greediness and deception. I think Kae, more than anything else, wants to conquer her weight battles. Maybe I'm being naive, but that's what I see.

I didn't mind Amy until the very end. I actually want her to lose weight, if only to show Kim. And even if she threw Neil under the bus, her confession, when unless I missed it, no one else has focused on her and she had no need to confess, gained points with me. She worked hard this week, she focused, and I think she gained Jillian's trust and vice versa. And I was rooting for that to be a great teaming, a success story ... and then she lost it on Kae. Listen, Amy's emotional stablity has been almost absent several times during this season. I have no idea if it is the stress of the competition, her natural attitude, her own psychological problems, I have no idea. I can even understand her being threatened by Kae. David and Hollie together are clearly no threat, not to mention Hollie is technically part of her team now and David was part of hers. That said, when she started cursing and losing it (what is it with the red team's potty mouth?) and mentioned the money, my patience wore thin. Sure, I can buy she's frustrated, even if I'm not her biggest fan, but that just went a tad over the line. Back to her saying Neil pressured me, we all know it was his idea. He's the one that did the bulk of the waterloading and he pretty much admitted it was his scheme. Whether she was really held under the gun, well I doubt it. Nevertheless, it's not untrue that it wasn't her original idea. And like I said, she didn't have to come clean.

Which brings me to Julie, who was really arrogant and judgmental. Hollie and Isabeau, they feel in danger of being kicked off. But Julie, from the moment of Neil's waterloading has just been above it all. She's losing weight honestly, she's not a cheater, she can't look Neil in the eye, blah, blah, blah. Oh puh-lease! Listen, it's not like morally she's incorrect, but her incredibly rigid, unforgiving, bitter attitude throughout the week just worked my last nerve. And after all of her boo-hooing about how Neil should go home and how she wouldn't hesistate to vote him off for his dishonesty and to even moan about how Ryan also probably waterloaded ... either she's incredbily stupid, naive, or hypocritical to not flinch with Amy's major weight loss. Has she ever lost more than six pounds before? She lost no weight last week. So either that doesn't bother Julie because it suits her or she's blind to it in anyone who isn't on her side, especially since there was no commentary of disappointment when it became clear Isabeau waterloaded. Heck, she practically admitted it on the scale when she said she wasn't surprised (heck, Amy feigned shock and disappointment last week, Isabeau nearly smirked)! Where's your judgment now Julie?! Ugh, she bugs.

Oh and about Ryan never fessing up to his waterloading, not that it matters, but that makes him a little more annoying to me. Okay, Neil got away with flagrantly messing with expected respect to the scale, but Ryan bothers me more. He's not been caught, unless I missed it, he was never confronted, and he completely got away with it. Neil's lost trust, respect, put a darn target on his back and Ryan gets to sail on. Amy, although not actually caught, confessed. Kae, who didn't do any waterloading expressed remorse. But Ryan (and I guess David who apparently also didn't fess up to his part in it) kept their mouths shut. That, I find a little more annoying. I can deal with the others because they got called out.

And about Isabeau, can someone explain to me why she waterloaded? What purpose does it serve? She knew Neil was gonna save her and I can see she might want to prepare in anticipation for next week, but really, how can I feel sorry for her nearly being sent home when she's just doing what Neil did? Why is it worse that Neil claims he did it for other people than for himself?

That said, I loved Bob punishing Neil in the workouts. It's about all he could do really. I know that of course the 33 pounds isn't real, but I honestly don't think it would have been that big without the work he put in this week.

I feel for Hollie, especially since she lost her mother and I like Nicole, but their progress is ... ugh, whatever.

David's homecoming was awesome! That moment when his wife could put her arms around him, I rewound that one over and over. That is pretty sweet and his daughters' sobbing was amazing too.

I agree with that too, but it was the righteous sulking that was annoying. Just go work out and focus on yourselves and shut up. They keep talking about how if they go home they are going to go home with dignity and their heads held high. So stop sulking about possibly getting sent home then.

I also don't see Isabeau's obviously taking advantage of what she knew would be a big weight loss on Neil's part as being dignified or classy either. I thought they weren't playing the game. Bullshit.

I don't know. As much as I hate what Neil did and there should be some sort of rule against it or automatic dismissal if you are caught and as much as I felt he should have gone home last week, he didn't murder someone. Get over yourselves (Black Team).



Agreed. I don't get the concept that some waterloading is okay and other waterloading is not okay. Don't be all self righteous about it and then do it the next week.

I know! She squeezes her eyes really tight so any and all tears will make a hasty exit.

During the challange, with the updo Nicole was sporting, it's just. so. bad.

Nicole needs to get off my TV, I am so over her.

I think the problem with Kae is that she seems to have the emotional stability of jello. Healthy living is about balance and moderation and Kae is always all in or all out. If she had accepted what'd done, maybe apologized publicly or just to herself for being part of it to clear her conscience, and moved squarely on, I'd have more faith in her. But she was so distraught and ready to walk away...huh? We all make mistakes, the key is how you handle them and she didn't handle it so well....

It reminded of last week at the poker game. The ante was 36calories. That's 3minutes on the treadmill to get a card. She went extremely emotional over 36 calories. Sweets are good and you will eat them again and it's best to learn to strike a reasonable balance at the ranch before you're on your own.

Otherwise, Kae is pretty cool.

I didn't think Isabeau water loaded, my impression was she didn't work out at all because she was hurt and new she didn't have to worry about the weigh in. I could be wrong. Did she say anything about water loading or just the "going to take advantage of the situation"? Also, anybody know where some spoilers can be found?

I wanted to high-five her through the TV! Amen to that!

I love watching their faces begin to appear as they lose weight. AMAZING!

Well, I stand corrected regarding Amy! I really didn't think she had it in her to choose gameplay instead of trying to show up Kim. I still don't get her logic in following the plan, but I don't think Neil pressured her at all, really. She seems to be all about the cash endgame, and proved it later on, IMO. I still think Ryan waterloaded, but he's just so much wallpaper nobody there seems to care. David didn't know? Hrmm, don't think so. Still, very happy for him that he went home and continued to get it together for his cute little kids. Good on him.

Kae bugged me no end this week with all her moping and moralizing. This is, what, the second or third time now she's been involved in team gameplay and didn't like it? Stop being so passive aggressive and get off the team bus if it makes you that miserable! Totally agree that she's an all or nothing person, so I was happy to see that she still maintained a strong loss this week despite the histrionics. Maybe she is learning something out there, but I'm concerned by how easily she can derail her own progress. I've been there myself, and it's tough to overcome a mindset like that. Still rooting for her, but a team of somewhat unstable Kae and the depressed, chronically low-losing Holly? They're toast, in my opinion. I chalked up Holly's misery to her mom dying and not wanting to go home to face all of that, but she's been a bit of a pill the entire season, so I don't know. I'm fairly confident she will drag down Kae along with her.

I don't think Isabeau waterloaded. I just think she laid off the workouts and maybe didn't watch her eating as closely. Early on, she told Holly that she could use the week to let her leg heal, so maybe she gave herself a little injury time-out. She's not a big loser in general, so she wouldn't need to waterload to overcome her typical losses--just do very little to lose. What an interesting lesson, though, in just how hard it is to lose weight. As soon as they slack off from manic workouts and highly restricted calories, the whole engine grinds to a halt. We'll see if a break jumpstarts her losing next week, as it can.

Also, a shout-out to Bill for lying low and just working his ass off. He is starting to look awesome! "Look, I have a chin!" Just adorable. Despite his moment of pure crazy some weeks ago (or was it the other one?), he's my favorite of the guys by a lot.

I got that impression too. BTW, what is with Isabeau's neck? I've never seen someone lose weight and look good but still remain so padded around the neck? She looks like she swallowed an innertube. It's just weird how the weight loss is showing everywhere on her but there. The more she loses, the more noticeable it is.

And I'm glad there was dead silence from all after Neil's "huge weight loss". Not a single murmur of encouragement. That plainly says what everyone thought of his antics. After all, when have you ever seen a big loss and not heard the other react (cheer, gasp, do something)?

Holly too. Maybe it's time for a challenge with the reward of a complete wardrobe and style makeover rather than stupid-ass everyone gets an elimination vote passes.



During his speech on the scale, I expected him to say something to the effect that he wanted them to subtract the 17 pounds he gained last week from his total weight loss.

Do you know what's really sad? I've been watching this show every week (admittedly usually multi-tasking) and I'm reading this thread thinking 'who the hell is Nicole?' Whoever she is, she hasn't made much of an impression on me. Oh, is she that blue team member that carries a lot of weight really low?

Were the winners of the challenge yelling 'the bad guys won! the bad guys won!' They were all talking like they were really sorry about what they did but when I heard that it seemed like they were really laughing in everyone else's faces about it.

One more thing, Bob's training tip to only choose foods that you can easily read the ingredients was funny considering the processed diet foods they pimp on the show. The weight control oatmeal ingredients are:

WHOLE GRAIN ROLLED OATS, WHEY PROTEIN ISOLATE,MALTODEXTRIN, NATURAL AND ARTIFICIAL FLAVORS, SALT, OAT FLOUR, CALCIUM CARBONATE, GUAR GUM, CARAMEL COLOR, SOY LECITHEN, ACESULFAME POTASSIUM, SUCRALOSE, NIACINAMIDE*, VITAMIN A PALMITATE, REDUCED IRON, PYRIDOXINE HYDROCHLORIDE*, RIBOFLAVIN*, THIAMIN MONONITRATE*, FOLIC ACID*.

Using Bob's advice, you shouldn't touch this stuff!

Why is Amy still here? WHY? The injustice of it all. I seriously hope she doesn't make it to the finals, that will just ruin the season for me. All she does is whine, whine, swear, and, waterload. I still think she's destined to be fat even if she loses some weight on the show temporarily.

The remaining twin (Bill, Phil?) is starting to look cute!

I don't have isssues with Neil anymore. It's clear that a number of people have been playing water games, he just did it badly.

Between the product placements and the water game issues I am seriously considering not watching next season. I'm too vested in this season to quit but I think I might be done with this show. The product placements are so annoying it's crazy.

David, way to go on the weight loss!

I might be wrong, but I thought they were saying 'The fat guys won!' Like Nicole said before the challenge, they weren't really sure if two really big guys would be an advantage because of their strength, or a disadvantage because of their weight.



Ugh! Absolutely! She's so whiny and ready to blame everyone else for her problems (weight, team-related, or otherwise). She's weak, and she constantly looks for the easy way out. I can't imagine her weight loss being successful over the long haul, unless she changes some basic things about herself.

That's funny. I was thinking while watching the show last night, "There's a Nicole? I don't remember a Nicole."

Yeah, it's like strangely "centered" right below her belly button or around there...

Okay, I wasn't sure. I do remember thinking I heard that and I was thinking, well everybody in the challenge is fat (I wasn't being mean but that's why they're all there right?)

Bill (Joe?) looks so good with his emerging jawline. It made me laugh that he mentioned it, because when I saw him earlier, I was all "Who is that handsome devil?" But he looks really good now that you can see his facial structure. I was thinking the same about Kae. She obviously has some amazing zygomatics but right now the rest of her face is still a little chubby-of-cheek to show them off.

I guess the remaining Black Team girls plan on using righteous indignation to fuel their weight loss. Tastes great; less filling.

I was surprised but glad that Jillian didn't pull the "do you know how that reflects upon ME as a trainer?" line when Amy confessed to throwing the weigh-in. (And poor Jillian must have been so confused that Amy didn't lose any weight switching over to her!) She just said, "That was dumb, don't do it again, let's get to work."

I agree with those who think that Kae's headed to crazyville. I think she is deeply depressed and will either become addicted to exercise when she leaves here, develop an ED, or stake all her happiness on getting thin and then find that it doesn't actually make her that happy. It's great that she's losing so much weight, but she's not allowing herself to enjoy any of it. This bodes ill, I fear.

David's family was so sweet. He looks really good now! 263 on a man of David's frame isn't really that bad; he's definitely looking much healthier and active.

I must be missing something. Why would more than one team attempt to waterload? Wouldn't they then just be evening out the scales again? I get it (from Neil's perspective) about why Neil would waterload to bring down his trio. But why should Amy, as well? If anything, they should have all taken turns each week to throw an elimination. Of course, it would have to be a lot more subtle than Captain Obvious, Neil.

What am I not understanding? Any insight would be appreciated.

That's the difference between Jillian and Kim. Kim would have thrown a fit. Jillian figures Amy's a grown-up, and Amy's ultimately the one responsible for changing her life, which is what the show's supposed to be about.

That said, Amy sucks, utterly and completely. I started to like her a little last week, when I thought she was making a decisive choice to help herself lose more weight. Turns out she was more interested in playing the damn game than in changing her life, and she's not even crafty enough to concoct her own plan. If you're going to be there for the wrong reasons, at least have some ingenuity. She can't get off my TV quickly enough.

I honestly couldn't care less who wins. I watch to see the numbers change and the people transform. I don't need frickin' heroes and villains. Very simply, if you go on the show and change your life, you win, regardless of whether or not you wind up getting the quarter mil. It hurts me to hear about people who've been on this show and then gained all their weight back, like the first season winner. Way to squander an opportunity, there.

And no wonder Isabeau stuck up for Neil on her myspace...she did the exact same thing he did this week, though admittedly it wasn't quite so malice-motivated. (I suspect her neck may be thyroid-related, but if she had some sort of thyroid problem, how did she pass the physical to get onto the show in the first place?) I like her a lot less this week, but she's still a favorite. Kae may have fallen off the favorites list, though, with her theatrics.

I don't mind Nicole, and I think she's doing great, but the Pebbles hairdo needs to go away. It's like she and Allison are having a contest to see who can have the worst hair on the show.

Among the guys, I'm rooting the hardest for Bill. I thought seeing Jim's transformation moment would give an inkling of what Bill would look like eventually, but I have to say I'm still surprised at how great Bill is looking.

Next week: Neil's apparently not done sucking. Evil villainry stops working after a certain point, Neil. Just ask Richard Hatch. Who, by the way, has not only become a reality-TV punchline, he's gained back all the weight he lost. I predict the same for Neil.

Over two weigh-ins Neil lost 16# and his integrity. Over the previous two he lost around 20# and kept his integrity. I just thought that was interesting. No more teams please. Top loser decides who goes.

If NBC could've edited the show to just that quote, it would have been more than enough.

90 minutes is just too long for this drama parade. I want to see heavy people eating better, exercising, the weekly challenge, and the weigh-in. I don't want to see this stupid, high school drama.

Also, I may be going to hell for this, but people who criticize sitcoms with the "heavy husband/hot wife" combo should look at David. Heavy guy--but smaller now--with hot wife. Other than being distracted by her gianormous breasts pushed up into her top, she was (to me, anyway) pretty attractive.

Other than that, I have no feeling about any of these people. There's no hate train like last year. Well, except for Kim.

And I could have a man-crush on Bob. There--I said it.

The testimonials during the show also seem to be give-aways to me. Some players are shown in their sweatjackets looking very relaxed/relieved, and others just look emotionally drained. It may not be clear from the testimonials who's going home that week, but it seems pretty clear who's safe.

WRT Isabeau, I also didn't think she waterloaded until her final comment about "taking advantage of a situation". That wording sounded fishy to me. If she simply talking about being injured and unable to workout, that's not the way she would describe it. It just sounded to me like she did something like either waterload or overeat. I'd doubt she overate b/c that's harder to control for next week. I guess we'll see.

I was also disappointed in the trainers' reactions (except for Kim, who I love. . so sue me . . . she's got a bangin' body). IMO, anyone who waterloaded, or was in on the voting, last week deserved to have their fat asses handed to them. Bob's reaction of actually trying to work harder to help Neil lose the weight he artificially gained was far from punishment. And Jillian, after all her talk defending her black team, when she learns there's an "assassin" (to use her own word) amongst them, just kid-gloves her, even after she still spewed that sick victim mentality about Neil making her do it.



Agreed, except I'd replace "other than" with "thanks to "

I have to say I loved when David said to his wife, put your arms all the way around me.
He did look good, his kids were cute, they just loved to have him home.

I still love Jillian as the trainer.

I too can't picture who Nicole is, I know have to go on the website to find out who she is.

Is it just me, or does Kae need MASSIVE amounts of therapy? I don't say that in a mean way, since I have majorly benefitted from therapy myself ... it just seems like she has a lot of self-doubt and poor self-esteem, and while most people would be thrilled with the kind of progess she's making, it seems like she cries all the time and is so, so hard on herself. Which is not to say that I wasn't annoyed with her last night, pulling down all the pictures over her bed and being a bit of a drama queen, but I do feel for her.

And then there's Amy, who probably ALSO needs therapy, but mostly a swift kick in the pants. LORD, she grates. I admire Jillian even more for being so patient with her. Speaking of Jillian, I kind of want that quote of hers stitched on a sampler for posterity. "SHUT UP AND LISTEN TO ME." Yes, ma'am!

I FF'd through it.

I'm glad I'm not the only one disliking Nicole. Her big fluffy hair when she's not working out and the way she swings her stupid ponytail around to look at the big scale number at each weigh-in.... she just bugs. And her stupid sobbing at every elimination is really over the top.

Potes is my hero! I mean, she always has been, but finding a way to quote Les Miz in a Biggest Loser weecap? That could just about make me switch teams!

And once again, Nicole had a "heavy heart" while making her elimination vote. Maybe Bob can help with this issue.

The product placement has really gotten out of hand. By the time Kim was microwaving the salmon in the extra-special microwaving baggies, my husband, half asleep on the couch, called out, "Another product placement? This show has become an infomercial!"

Haha, I was thinking the exact same thing.

I'm disappointed with Bob.  Neil's "punishment" was more personal time with Bob?  Boo!