TWoP Barnes
Oct 29, 2007 @ 9:40 am
(TiVo says:) The final four bachelorettes take Brad to their hometowns to meet their families; one woman's protective father confronts Brad, leading to an argument; Brad makes a difficult decision and sends one woman home.
pookat
Oct 29, 2007 @ 10:02 pm
Two words: Go Grandma!!!!
StewartTeddy
Oct 29, 2007 @ 10:03 pm
Wow! Bettina's Family are not very gracious people to say the least. I am officially on Team Jenny for the win! I felt so bad for Sheena, she seems like a sweet person.
leahsmom
Oct 29, 2007 @ 10:04 pm
So, did the producers pay Brad a bonus to keep Crazy Eyes? Dam. If my husband's parents had treated me like that when I first met them, he would not be in the marital bed today. Wouldn't waste my time. Esp in this setting where he has 3 other love puppies to chose from. Is Bettina Non-Matte-Bad-Hair's Dad a Millionaire? Cause people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Did he know his perfect daughter with the perfect ex-husband was going on a little TV show called The Bachelor? Lordy. Maybe he should chain her to Scary's dog house if he doesn't want her to do anything uneducational or "dumbing".
Poor Sheena. She's young, with good hair and nails and she can fall down stairs and laugh it off on National TV. She may have the same sad mouth as smile mouth, but I am sure she can find a man who will think her mom is "funny" and not run.
Angellina
Oct 29, 2007 @ 10:07 pm
Honestly, I was happy to see a family finally thumb their noses at this stupid show. I personally would be horrified if my daughter was practically begging for a guy who's dating many other girls at the same time. Go DC family!!
And please, can we EVER not have a crying chick at the end? Just once I'd love to see one of them just say "Oh well, wasn't meant to be" and walk away.
I like Jenny. I like that she's not giving up the dancing gig for this guy. Too many girls have come and gone over the years willing to give up their whole lives for the man. I thought she was very sweet and humble about her background as well.
Delirium64
Oct 29, 2007 @ 10:10 pm
Wow. Could Bettina's family be any more pretentious? If her first husband was so perfect, why are they divorced? And what was up with dry drunk looking mom and the bitch step mom from hell? They all look like crap on paper, too. I respect that Brad worked hard to get where he is
Jenni's grandmother rocked. And I liked DeAnna's family, too.
SweetCaroline22
Oct 29, 2007 @ 10:10 pm
The only logic that my brain can support at this moment is that he is keeping Bettina because he is not worried about hurting her. Right? Because I can't imagine that the way her family treated him and the way that she wrote him off ("I don't look good on paper, either"), I mean... wow. I only see that chemistry with DeAnna and Jenni. So, he let the nice girl down easy, and let Sheena go. She seems so sweet and normal... I imagine she will be "the one" someday. (But her mom might be someone she waits to introduce her next beau to, as a safe bet).
My Way
Oct 29, 2007 @ 10:10 pm
Wow! Bettina's Family are not very gracious people to say the least.
No, but the mom's had massively good points about the whole "string them along for a while" angle. Poor Brad, though. He seems like he's used to be considered a good catch and was a little bit shocked that they didn't think so. Also wondering who Bettina's ex is. Is anybody else picturing a major player? Whatever, the dad's whole "no one will ever be as good as her" thing tells me that that relationship is massively fucked up.
Poor Sheena. Her mom was pretty nuts, though I loved the "she may not be your one, but she's somebody's one". Hee.
I think Brad is most attracted to Bettina physically and Jenni in a fun sexy way and DeAnna some other way I haven't figured out. I think the dead mom thing sadly makes her like a better person in Brad's eyes? Which kind of makes me think less of Brad because when she was strong on her own she was a little too strong, but now that she's strong despite tragedy, or showing her sad side he's liking her better. I'm calling DeAnna for the win.
Is Bettina Non-Matte-Bad-Hair's Dad a Millionaire?
With that house in DC? Hell yeah. I also totally think he was letting Sheena out early because she would be even more hurt after the overnight date.
darkdancer
Oct 29, 2007 @ 10:13 pm
One of the best meet-the-families episodes in Bachelor history. Jenni's was somewhat forgettable, except for the scary but sassy grandmother. Jenni's certainly the only looker in her family. DeAnna's was also quite normal and fun; Brad was most at ease there. Now Sheena's mother was pure comedy gold -- was she drunk, high or just totally spacey? Or all of the above? Wow, no wonder Brad let her go, I would have run screaming when she was going on about the "one," the eyes, and planning their astrologically perfect wedding.
Bettina -- ahh, I wish we had that sort of honest families more often. The father, of course, was kooky, snotty and tactless, but I totally understand the (badly concealed) horror with which they met Brad. My parents are also academic and I don't think they could even conceive anyone in our family marrying anyone with less than a professional degree. Then again, I've been raised to value intellectual conversation and would not find Brad the least bit interesting (not because he isn't smart but because I value someone with whom I can discuss Bismarc, the social policies of the 1930s and city life in the middle ages) -- Bettina's clearly a bit of a black sheep in her family. (Yes, I also watch the Bachelor, and my PhD hubby makes cruel fun of me). It is just too bad that Brad, one of the nicest bachelors ever, got to be taken down by Bettina's family -- would have loved that happen to Blob or Lorenzo. I thought it was nice to see a family who did not spout the inanities of "process" and whatnot to the producers but made very clear what they were thinking.
Angellina
Oct 29, 2007 @ 10:14 pm
Sheena's mother was a nutjob. She'd probably still be there if her mother hadn't gone on and on about the stars and the "one".
And yes, he IS stringing all these fricken girls along on a game show, almost. I honestly don't even know if I'd allow filming if my daughter got mixed up in this mess.
leahsmom
Oct 29, 2007 @ 10:14 pm
And please, can we EVER not have a crying chick at the end? Just once I'd love to see one of them just say "Oh well, wasn't meant to be" and walk away.
That would be Bret Michael's Rock of Love. Catch it in Repeats, you will have the ending that you crave. And more.
I think Sheena recovered pretty well after her "moment" with Brad. But then they stick that camera in their face in the limo and have a producer prodding them with heartbreak questions and probably drive by the mansion for two hours and show them clips of him making out with other women to bring on the "tears".
Hey, she can sell those earrings and live off the proceeds for a while once she "gets over him".
Invernessie
Oct 29, 2007 @ 10:16 pm
I thought Bettina's family was horrible. Bettina decided to go on the show of her own free will. She is of age, so any concerns/complaints of the relatives should be leveled at Bettina.
Her dad, with the ridiculous Donald Trump-worthy Hair-Do, has a lot of nerve to turn up his nose. I have a masters degree but in my travels have confirmed (many times over) that "education" does not necessarily correlate with "smarts" or "class" Judging only on what TPTB wanted us to see in the editing, "The Bachelor" will be settling if he goes with Bettina.
I smell producer meddling with Bettina remaining.
My Way
Oct 29, 2007 @ 10:17 pm
Oh yeah, almost forgot.
Brad and I are both Scorpios! Come to my house, Brad, and I'll get Sheena's mom to drunkenly read a Scorpio/Scorpio love chart for you. Seriously this is why Brad is so awesome.
PetuniaP
Oct 29, 2007 @ 10:27 pm
I'm fairly sure that my parents would turn up their noses a little if I brought home a bar owner as a potential spouse. They value education highly and wouldn't be impressed with someone who didn't finish college and instead chose to sell liquor for a living. I wouldn't agree with them but they are old-fashioned and I can't change them. However, I do think they would attempt to be more polite to Brad's face. Bettina's dad is quite hung up on her ex, huh? I wonder who he was....senator's aide perhaps?
I did feel badly for Sheena but I think Brad did give falling for her the old college try. His brother was so impressed with her ability to tell them apart so Brad tried to feel it and even gave her the 'Pretty Woman' date. Oh well, Sheena, you're gorgeous and some other man will come along to sweep you off your feet. And you got a beautiful pair of diamond earrings out of it so I think you came out ahead.
Bettina is sooo in for the big dumping next week. Seems obvious to me that Jennie is a shoo-in but I don't think the "relationship" will survive the Phoenix Suns year.
Miss Sargent
Oct 29, 2007 @ 10:27 pm
I'm officially joining Team Brad. I thought that out of all the Bachelors so far, he handled the hometown dates most graciously. I like his resolute insistence on calling adult women who want to get married "women", even as the Fleiss voice-over people use "girls."
Bettina: Exponentially better looking than the other three, especially below the neck (even though Jenni is a pro-dancer.) But she has a shitty attitude, within the context of The Bachelor. I can see why a 34-year-old allegedly self-made millionaire would take offense at being accused of not looking too "good on paper." Still, if I were Brad, I would "choose" her because of her looks.
Sheena: Now we have an answer to the question, "Who in the hell would name their daughter Sheena?" Yee-ikes. Sheena wasn't very cute, and her old-lady turquoise bathing costume with the hood ornament? What was that? She looks 47 around the face, too. And her mother was batshit crazy and high on...something. (On the Big Dipper?) BUT Sheena seemed really sweet in this episode, and her elimination was really sad. The lack of chemistry between her and Brad was sooo obvious that I'm surprised she didn't feel it, too. Poor Sheena.
Deanna: Getting a winner's edit again. If I'd only seen this episode, I would love her.
Jenni: Her family seemed a little dim and slow. WTF was all that BS from Brad about suffering from the long-distance thing because it was so hard not to see Jenni for a week? She seems pretty twitty, but I like that she has her own career and values it. That's unusual for a B'ette.
This episode personally embarrassed me. As someone with a PhD, I cringe when some windbag gets all high-and-mighty about it. While there are some brilliant scholars with doctorates, there are just as many brilliant thinkers without them (and without college educations, too)...and while there are ignorant yahoos who dropped out of college or didn't go, there are plenty of ignorant yahoos with fancy degrees, too--as Bettina's father proved. Classy.
Astrology is my (um, other) guilty pleasure, so Sheena's mom embarrassed me too. Not all of us astrology fans are that whacked out! Incidentally, you can't judge much of anything based on Sun Signs alone, and any two people can have a happy, loving relationship based on personal choice, but just Sun Sign-wise? Aries and Scorpio are pretty incompatible.
I'm a little bit rooting for Bettina. And I don't know why! She seems like an unpleasant person. I guess it's that I just don't like Jenni all that much, and I've seen the EvilDeanna in past episodes, and I like watching Bettina on-screen the best. Even though I don't really like her that much.
Brad seemed thrilled with Jenni when they were first all kissy, but now he's a little been there-done that about it all. I hate to say this about any Bachelor, but Brad could do better. Than all of them. And he probably will, when the show is over.
The Evil One
Oct 29, 2007 @ 10:27 pm
How Bettina's parents DNA ever combined to make a remotely attractive person is a wonder of science. They are a serious example of two uglies make a pretty. Her dad was a real piece of work with his "well, he's not a PhD" comments (shall we take bets as to whether the last husband was?) While I understand that her father has a clear respect for academia, he also has to recognize that Brad's done very well for himself using a different path. It's not like his daughter brought home some total deadbeat and he really has to worry about how Brad intends to support himself. Jeez. Bettina also needs to learn the difference between asking for people's opinions and letting her daddy tell her what to think. I bet husband numero uno was handpicked by daddy.
I did feel bad Sheena. She seems like a sweet girl, notwithstanding the bad poetry and her bizarre fascination with the hair on Brad's ear. Deanna and Jenni's families actually made me like the girls themselves more.
Research Girl
Oct 29, 2007 @ 10:27 pm
Bettina's family could have been a bit more gracious, but they weren't that bad. Mom had a point about the other girls and I see Dad's reasoning for being dissapointed the Bachelor isn't a college grad. My folks would probably be a little concerned with a college dropout bar owner, it makes him sound like a partier and not a steady guy (though some lovely, smart folks own bars).
I also don't think you can compare this to a regular meet the folks when he is still dating 3 other girls. He isn't committed to their daughter or exclusive with her. Most normal people would grill him.
Is Bettina Non-Matte-Bad-Hair's Dad a Millionaire? Cause people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
Brad himself has said in interviews that he's not a millionaire. I think the whole millionaire thing was created by ABC when really he jointly owns properties totalling a million bucks. Not the same thing at all. Considering DC housing prices, I wouldn't be surprised if Dad is a millionaire using the same standard.
Whatever, the dad's whole "no one will ever be as good as her" thing tells me that that relationship is massively fucked up.
Seriously, Dad that's the EX husband. Where are your loyalties?
I like Jenny. I like that she's not giving up the dancing gig for this guy.
What really bugged me about all Brad's "will she come to Austin for me?" is that dancing for the Suns is a part-time gig. She only works during the season, this should not be that big an obstacle.
I think Deanna is going to be the final rose.
angelpops
Oct 29, 2007 @ 10:28 pm
Ditching Bettina tonight would have been too obvious. Not good TV.
I'm calling Deanna for the win. She has a great family, and Brad seems to be all about the family.
Not that I didn't like Jenny's family. I'd be okay with him choosing her as well.
It seems like ALL the girls, with the exception of Jenny, come from some money.
Bettina's family was snobby, to be sure, but I don't blame them for disliking the process of this show. I wouldn't want to be a part of their intellectual snobbery, though. It doesn't look like any fun.
calypsolmoon
Oct 29, 2007 @ 10:29 pm
Oh. My. God. I cannot believe he kept Bettina. Unless, like someone upthread just said, he isn't so concerned about hurting her. Watch him pick her just to spite her family. Ha!
I thought Jenni was sweet and her family nice and normal. Appropriately and equally skeptical and supportive. They obviously know that Jenni is smart enough to take care of herself. Hopefully Brad has decided whether she's legit or just there to further her career.
DeAnna's family was also great. Although I couldn't help but think NANA! during the talk about her mom. It is sad that she passed away, and obviously that has influenced the person DeAnna has grown up to be. But I still don't feel like her and Brad..match. I can't think of a better word. Unless we are missing the good stuff left on the editing room floor.
Sheena's family...wow. Her Mom was drunk during the moon and stars and "the one" monologue, right? I sure hope so! Despite the crazy, they seemed great and fun and Sheena is a nice girl. She and Brad weren't right for each other, although I wonder if he could have articulated that to her better. Maybe he did and we didn't get to see it. I've always thought she was a bit too young for him, but he didn't really give her a good reason for not choosing her. My guess is he just feels stronger for Jenni and probably DeAnna, so figured it would be easier to "hurt" her now, rather than later.
And Bettina. While I don't disagree that it's nice to see families show a healthy skepticism or even downright disdain for this ridiculous show, they could still be a little nicer about it! I understand that as a professor, her father values education, but to be so pretentious and dismissive about what Brad has accomplished in his life was horrid behavior. And the mothers...wow. It's no wonder Bettina is the way she is - alternately delusional and like a child begging for recognition. She's another one that will be sobbing about just wanting to make Daddy proud. I think when the mothers were grilling Brad about his feelings and he was saying he couldn't say...it was clear he meant that the show would not allow him to say anything. I don't know if they have to pretend there is no show, or if mentions just get edited out, but either way, you'd think they would get it. And instead of showing some backbone and acting like a grown woman, Bettina just sniveled like a child afraid she's not going to get her own way. I seriously cannot stand her!
I have assumed all along the F2 would be DeAnna and Jenni, but after tonight's surprise, who knows? I still say Jenni takes it, and while I'd like to think they can make it work, it will likely have fizzled out by now, so the biggest question is - why do I care?!!
leahsmom
Oct 29, 2007 @ 10:33 pm
I'm calling the most "surprising ending ever" that Brad either picks no one or he tries to pull a Bret Michaels and pick both. That would be the only surprise we haven't tried yet on this show. Other that not saying AMAZING in the last show 100 times.
angelpops
Oct 29, 2007 @ 10:34 pm
so the biggest question is - why do I care?!!
So true, so true. But we all want the happy ending. (sob!)
SassyFrass
Oct 29, 2007 @ 10:38 pm
I agree with
Invernessie about Bettina's family:
Bettina decided to go on the show of her own free will. She is of age, so any concerns/complaints of the relatives should be leveled at Bettina.
While it was refreshing(I guess) to see a family that called a spade a spade, they did NOT need to act so high and mighty! Besides, if they disagree with this whole thing, they should be ripping Bettina a new one, instead of Brad (although perhaps they did, and we did not see the footage?). On a purely shallow note, her parents and stepmom were quite fug. That house, on the other hand, was awesome!
I want to be part DeAnna's family! Those grandparents were so cute! Jenny's family was nice, but Jenny herself seems so one-note. Sheena is cute, her mom was a bit nutty, but her parents seemed nice overall.
Angellina
Oct 29, 2007 @ 10:41 pm
Well, my parents wouldn't care about the bar owner thing (and neither would I as a parent) - but please, The Bachelor? I think it's horrifying. Especially if they got some tapes of previous shows - hysterically crying psycho chicks, horrible track record of breakups, hot tubs, fantasy suites, bad editing, drinking, promiscuity...
drxdc
Oct 29, 2007 @ 10:43 pm
Bettina's dad is quite hung up on her ex, huh? I wonder who he was....senator's aide perhaps?
No, sadly Betttina's ex was Senator Larry Craig...hee.
Sheena was great - crazy horoscope mamma - not so much.
Editors/post production of this show are either great or hand-tippers.
The Bachelor's tie/shirt combo were AWEFULL... who taught him to dress? Weird AL?
Blackday
Oct 29, 2007 @ 10:45 pm
OMG I have Bettina's Step Mom's dress and it looks good on me but must go burn it now.
12345ne
Oct 29, 2007 @ 10:46 pm
Maybe it's just my family but all my parents wanted for me was a guy that treated me well, could make me laugh, loved me intensely and wanted the best for me. They didn't care about professions, degrees, or jobs (well, if he was a porn star, I'm sure that would have been somewhat of a problem) because they knew I had a professional degree and could support myself.
Now back to the snark. I did like Bettina's family calling out Brad about leading people along but honestly, I don't think Brad deserved that. He seemed to lead these girls along the least out of the Bachelors (I'm looking at you Andy Baldwin!).
Can anyone loan me a Yaya and a Papou? Nothing's better than sassy grandparents!
Miss Sargent
Oct 29, 2007 @ 10:52 pm
Honestly, if I were older and had adult children, I would be very concerned if one of them went on the Bachelor, or any similar show. And though I would love and support my child, I would never sign a release form agreeing to appear on the show myself. I would say that I would be delighted to meet the person my son or daughter was so into, off-camera. I'm surprised so many of these families are willing to appear on this gawdawful show.
I would be 90% unlikely to appear on a trashy show like this if I were handsomely compensated ($50,000+ after taxes), and 100% unwilling to do it for free.
That said, I found it offensive that Bettina's family were all snotty not about The Bachelor, the trash-fest, but about this guy's lack of formal education.
Oh, also--the sassy granny? Completely creeped me out and seemed only scary and weird, not even a little bit cute. Was it just me?
krisR
Oct 29, 2007 @ 10:57 pm
The look on Brad's face when Sheena's mom was going on and on with her crazy talk was priceless.He looked like he wanted to bolt from there.I did feel bad for Sheena.She seemed like a sweet girl,and very pretty unlike Bettina.Bettina seems insecure and has zero chemistry with Brad.She will be the next to go.
I think Jenni will be his final pick.I didn't see much chemistry with Deanna.I think he wants to like her,and her family was nice,but he doesn't seem to have the same urgency when he kisses her as he does with Jenni.
Kalyne
Oct 29, 2007 @ 11:00 pm
I'm not worried about Sheena after reading Reality Steve's blog last week. He saw a very romantic video posted on YouTube, apparently by Sheena's (past? still current?) boyfriend for her birthday. Impression was--they're still involved. Maybe we'll find out on TWTA. Anyway, she's better off without Brad, imo, nice though he seems.
Snim Xis
Oct 29, 2007 @ 11:03 pm
My favorite line: "You don't have to worry about Grandma. Just as long as you stay out of her reach." She looked to have little T-Rex arms, so hopefully Brad can manage.
I was certain Bettina was taking the fall this week, just because the editing has been that transparent so far. I enjoy being surprised, though she still seems very frivolous to me. (I mean, she even seems excessively frivolous for this show. I know everyone on this program is frivolous.) I'm not sure I believe she has real feelings for Brad, so when she makes the Long Walk of Roselessness next week, I think she'll be all right, at least until she has to go back to that horrific family who still quite obviously carries a torch for her ex. I feel bad for her. That can't be fun.
One thing I love about Brad is the way he repeats everything back to the 'ettes with a "I like that you ___" appended to the front, like he's being Jedi Mind Tricked. "We're going to visit my old dance studio now." "I like that we're going to visit your old dance studio now." "I'm opening up to you and showing you my real feelings." "I like that you're opening up to me and showing me your real feelings." "I was looking forward to seeing you." "I like that you were looking forward to seeing me." Ad infinitum. He doesn't seem to discriminate - he's done it to all the girls at various points.
I think if I were a contestant on this show I'd just keep saying more and more shocking things to make him keep making that gobsmacked face. Every time he gets that look about him, it cracks me up to no end.
Shant
Oct 29, 2007 @ 11:05 pm
I think the visits with Jenni and DeAnna's families strengthened his feelings for them. However, even though it looks like he and Jenni dealt with the long distance thing that may end up being the excuse used if he lets her go later on. Someone mentioned Brad feeling more for DeAnna after talking about her mother. He has know about her mom since day one and this whole 'strong' thing is a running theme with them. I think seeing her in a slightly more real world setting with her family and seeing photos of her with her mom and realizing that she does have a softer side was a relief to Brad. He knows she is strong and doesn't need him but he also got proof that she is more than just the 'strong one'.
Poor, poor Sheena. She seems sweet so I'm glad Brad let her go if he wasn't feeling anything for her. If he did have feelings for her I think he would have been able to deal with her mother. Mom sure was a unique one wasn't she.
Bettina's family were unreal. I get that they weren't crazy about the situation and there are legitimate concerns to be had, but have a little tact people! I know my parents haven't always been crazy about the guys my sister and I have brought home but they've always managed to be polite even if they were choking on the words. They trusted us to figure things out for ourselves. You could feel the ice coming through the TV during that visit. I thought Brad was going to pop a vein talking about how the two moms treated him. (Glare) 'Just clear the table'.(Glare) That conversation about stringing women along started out civil but all of a sudden the dog had to be walked and it was 'Get out of the way Bar Boy'. Total dismissal of the man. In all likelihood you never have to see the guy again so chill out and be polite.
Celina
Oct 29, 2007 @ 11:17 pm
I hate to say this about any Bachelor, but Brad could do better. Than all of them. And he probably will, when the show is over.
Hell yeah. I'm officially on the "Free Brad" train.
And color me judgemental, but Jenny's "dancing" career? Give me a fucking break. I'm pretty sure I "dance" as well as she does.
sbwm
Oct 29, 2007 @ 11:25 pm
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MerBear
Oct 29, 2007 @ 11:27 pm
Bettina and her family -- just awful. The father is one of those intellectual snobs that I cannot stand and he looks like Stephen King. The real mom -- oh dear Lord -- now we see where Bettina gets her "rode hard and put up wet" look. And the stepmom was just completely brusque and cold. Just 3 awful people. Bettina just has to be a mess of issues, coming from that world.
I think DeAnna reminds of someone who would be the best Bar Manager for Brad's bars -- but not a wife!
Jenni is certainly perky and kind and values her family, regardless of their very, very humble situation. Her grandmother, though, just was a bit much.
Sheena is lovely and very, very young-seeming. I really think that if her mom hadn't been so loony and obsessed with the wedding plans, she'd be there instead of Bettina. I don't think Sheena would be the final rose, but he would've cut Bettina.
I couldn't believe when Bettina said "I don't look so good on paper EITHER". Wow, Brad is such a gentleman because THAT was a serious slam.
I actually don't think any of the final 3 are good enough for him! I am so curious about how this ends since TPTB are making it seem like a unique finale.
bayoubevo
Oct 29, 2007 @ 11:32 pm
I hope the only reason Brad kept Bettina around another week is so he can nail her in the Fantasy Suite, then can her ass at the RC. She's a bitch and her family is a bunch of snotty arrogant assholes. With REALLY bad hair. :p
I liked DeAnna's family more than I like her.
I'm still calling Jenni for the Final Rose, but her Grandma is one scary old lady. The rest of her family seemed nice and normal enough.
It was obvious to me that Brad was just not into Sheena AT ALL. She's cute, but looks much older than 23. She needs to keep any future husbands-to-be far, far away from her mother. If I were her, I'd introduce her to my husband AFTER the ceremony.
Moche
Oct 29, 2007 @ 11:34 pm
Sheena's mom seemed drunk during her shpiel. And whoa, not only is Sheena not just somebody's "the one", she is THE ONE. I seriously expected her mom to morph into Agent Smith from the Matrix. Maybe Sheena needs to marry Neo. ;-)
Bettina? Wow, words do not even come close to describing the daddy issues there. I too, agree that "husband number one" was pure Daddy hand-selected. I am guessing he totally pushed that marriage on her because it "looked so good on paper." Didn't she say she was married like only a year or something? I'm guessing she had no feelings for the dude and just couldn't do it anymore. She had married the guy only because she wanted to please Daddy.
Jenni bugs me. She seems so plain-Jane and not a lot going on upstairs. She somehow seems vacant. And I am sorry, but if dancing was your real life passion, why are you not dancing on Broadway or Vegas. Somewhere where they really utilize dancers. I know Paula Abdul changed professional cheerleaders more into the direction of "dancers." But, in my mind, they are still glorified cheerleaders. And that is not even being fair to real cheerleaders. But good for you and your self-affirmation that you are a "professional dancer."
At the rose ceremony, Deena was the only one who got a big hug. He barely touched Bettina and Jenni's was very luke warm. I'm guessing it will be Deena at the end but that it doesn't work. Wouldn't it be great if for once a bachelor actually picked NO ONE because it just really wasn't there?
ETA:
Hell yeah. I'm officially on the "Free Brad" train
Celina too funny! Did you watch The Real World San Diego and the whole "Free Brad" incident?
Shira
Oct 29, 2007 @ 11:38 pm
I'm officially on-board the Bettina Hate Train. That family was wretched and rude, and just proved that you can be book-smart but not at all savvy, sensible, or people-smart. Brad seems so charming and genuine, and they were ripping him a new one like he's a deadbeat dumbass. And then Bettina's defense of them is, "Well, I don't look good on paper either." Nasty! He must've really been freaked out by the Sheena hometown date to keep Bettina after that slam. I'm glad he called her on it, but stunned he kept her around. I have no idea what he sees in her because what they've shown of her personality so far is really dreadful. Maybe he told the producers he's not into Sheena or Bettina so they had him keep Bettina for the drama factor alone. (Because aside from the wacko mom, Sheena makes for some rather bland TV-watching. Sweet girl, though.)
I like Jenni a lot, and think she & Brad are a cute, affectionate couple. I'm totally rooting for them. I think they want to help each other be happy, they're very supportive of each other, and they just seem to match very well.
I would be okay with a Deanna "win" after seeing this week's episode, though. She came off "kinder and gentler" and her chat with her sis got me a little choked up with the mom mention.
This show was good TV tonight!
sbwm
Oct 29, 2007 @ 11:39 pm
Her grandmother, though, just was a bit much.
Yes I agree. While Bettina's family is getting the deserved award for rudeness and contempt - Jenni's grandma aint far behind. Sure it was cute for about five seconds but then, come on! Poor Brad. "NO I mean I said I think but I mean I know..." You see, I feel like I knew Nana after all these years of talking about her without even meeting her. Grandma is no Nana.
Am wondering if Bettina's dad's home is a home on campus? I also think the home is possibly a $2-3 m house depending on the neighborhood - and yes I did notice the late 18th C sideboard and other goodies. Inherited? So who is this fabulous ex- husband; my PhD neurobiologist cute but with baggage sister is looking.
Brad's face - he should never get botox. Those wonderful expressions. Especially with Sheena's mom. And do we all dress like our mothers the closer to get to home? Poor Sheena and that medallion centered bathing suit which co-ordinated with her mother's outfit. (Perhaps it was a mandala of the night sky?) I am now glad that all I seem to do is put on a Talbot's outfit when I get within 100 miles of home.
DeAnna - pretty relaxing stuff and her sister was sweet. No pretensions, easy going. Brad saying he felt "like they were an old married couple at a family reunion" was telling.
angelpops
Oct 29, 2007 @ 11:53 pm
Wouldn't it be something if the unbelievable ending was that the woman Brad chose jilted him?
I don't know, I guess I would be somewhat peeved if the man I loved spent the night with another woman right before asking me to marry him. That ain't the real world, to be sure, but even so.
I like Brad, at least from what I've seen of him on TV, so jilting him would be pretty difficult for me (well, if I wasn't already married, which I am), so I doubt this will happen, but it would be AMAZING.
MerBear
Oct 30, 2007 @ 12:04 am
Bettina has a pretty face and great figure, but she's an example of not developing a pretty "inside".
strengththroughpeace
Oct 30, 2007 @ 12:10 am
I wonder where Bettina's father is a professor? I'm sure he doesn't want to say on TV, and is mortified at what his faculty colleagues will say when they find out his daughter is one of the sluts on this low-class show. I think Brad did absolutely the right thing in sending Sheena home--he NEVER could have dealt with that insane mother-in-law for his whole life, plus there was no chemistry with "the ONE," so it was best to not prolong her suffering. Bettina, of course, is a good one to keep for now, since she has a hot body that he can fondle for a bit longer before dumping her without compunction. She insulted him--he won't have to feel bad about jilting her. I think Jenni is vapid and silly--and NOT a real dancer. Dancing is her life and she has to do it? She could do THAT in any aerobics studio in the country and fulfill her potential. I'm not sure I understand why people on here don't like Deanna--I must have missed her nasty side. She seems sweet and strong and good chemistry with Brad. Great family too. I hope he chooses her--and I hope she feels free to walk away from his proposal if he makes one.
OldWiseOne
Oct 30, 2007 @ 12:22 am
I'm calling the most "surprising ending ever" that Brad either picks no one or he tries to pull a Bret Michaels and pick both. That would be the only surprise we haven't tried yet on this show. Other that not saying AMAZING in the last show 100 times.
On Charlie O'Connells season didn't he make his choice live after dating both after filming? Maybe the reason we haven't heard anything about whether or not he proposes this season is that they're doing the same thing.
I needed Sars' cats to cover my eyes when Sheena's mom started yakking about lassoing the Big Dipper or whatever she was saying I couldn't really hear with 2 cats over my ears. AWK-ward!
Jenni's grandma was nothing compared to Krissily's grandma.
I call Jenni as the final rose. I think they're throwing the whole Brad-is-concerned-about-a-long-distance-relationship thing in there to make us think he's choosing Deanna. To me the editing has really made it seem like there is a love connection between Brad and Jenni. I'd be ok with Deanna winning, but she kinda bugs.
Bettina is a bitch, and obviously the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Education is a not a full measure of intelligence - after all, a "C is a degree". Bettina's dad needs to pull his head out of his ivory tower and take a look around at people making an impact in the real world: they're not all PhD's. And then he needs to have his teeth cleaned, b/c I could see the plaque build up and it really bugged me.
backformore
Oct 30, 2007 @ 12:23 am
Funniest moment: Brad and Bettina, before he meets the family. She predicts her family will love him, because "how could they not?" Brad talks about wanting to see her with her family "laughing and joking and welcoming me into their home."
Bettina's dad is a hypocrite. He wants a son-in-law with a PhD? what degree does his daughter have? Why is the educational expectation for women different than that for men? I can understand that coming from other people, a college professor should have a bit of a more open-minded view of women.
Her parents had more of an issue with the Bachelor show than Brad himself, but they took it out on him. I get it, he's a bit of an idiot to try to find "true love" on a reality show, but isn't Bettina even more of an idiot to be a contestant?
And she did insult him, with "I don't look that good on paper either." She pretty much agreed with her family's misgivings about him. If I were Brad, I'd choose her just to get back at her family - and then dump her.
I saw a moment of recognition on Brad's face with Sheena's mom. It was like, "holy crap, this will be Sheena in 20 years!" Damn, she was seriously crazy!
Eyeland Baybee
Oct 30, 2007 @ 12:33 am
I don't think [Bettina] was "slamming" Brad by telling him "I don't look that great on paper either." I think it was a boneheaded way to say "I don't live up to their standards either, so I know how hard that was for you." She may be a little weak and easily pushed around by Professor Daddy, but I don't think she has ugly insides. I dislike Jenni for the way she zeroed in on Bettina's offhanded comment in the house about her date not being as great as someone else's. It reminded me of a high school girl trying to smear another girl's character ("She's not here for the right reasons."). Of course... these are real people and this is heavily edited reality tv...
SBGirl
Oct 30, 2007 @ 12:34 am
I like Jenni a lot, and think she & Brad are a cute, affectionate couple. I'm totally rooting for them. I think they want to help each other be happy, they're very supportive of each other, and they just seem to match very well.
I totally agree. There seems to be this natural easy affection between them. She kept grabbing his hand and touching it to her face and lips. So cute. I also liked the fact that of the women left she is the only one that seems to care about her life and her goals and not dropping everything for a guy she met 4 weeks ago.
I had to turn away from the TV when poor Sheena's mom was on...too much sun and fun for old Beverly. Brad trying to keep a straight face was hilarious.
Kittenrescue
Oct 30, 2007 @ 12:51 am
So, he let the nice girl down easy, and let Sheena go. She seems so sweet and normal... I imagine she will be "the one" someday. (But her mom might be someone she waits to introduce her next beau to, as a safe bet).
Well, it's not as if Sheena had a choice - it was the hometown date portion of the show. Maybe her mom hasn't been that strange with other boyfriends she's brought home. Some people just play up to the cameras and think they're being 'cute', when in fact they just come across as odd. I did like that the mom told Brad - even if she's not your
one she's somebody's
one. It makes me think that her mom is going to be a big help in getting Sheena through the rejection.
OMG I have Bettina's Step Mom's dress and it looks good on me but must go burn it now.
Hated the woman but liked the dress. Who makes it and where did you buy it?
Poor Sheena and that medallion centered bathing suit
That looked like a Sky top (or one of the cheap copies being sold at the mall)
Funniest moment: Brad and Bettina, before he meets the family. She predicts her family will love him, because "how could they not?" Brad talks about wanting to see her with her family "laughing and joking and welcoming me into their home."
Wow, they both were way off the mark there, weren't they? I understand being skeptical of the 'process' and even being a bit of an education snob - but her family were unnecessarily rude. Brad would've been better off dealing with Sheena's over-enthusiastic mom than those three.
And she did insult him, with "I don't look that good on paper either." She pretty much agreed with her family's misgivings about him. If I were Brad, I'd choose her just to get back at her family - and then dump her.
At the altar.
Bettina's a bitch? Am I missing something? I don't think she was "slamming" Brad by telling him "I don't look that great on paper either." I think it was a boneheaded way to say "I don't live up to their standards either, so I know how hard that was for you."
Then she should've said it that way. I got the impression that she didn't appreciate having to defend her family.
MerBear
Oct 30, 2007 @ 12:51 am
I seem to recall Bettina calling Jenni a slut AND a liar just because she (Jenni) had already kissed Brad and hadn't fessed up about it. I don't like Bettina a bit.
Shira
Oct 30, 2007 @ 12:55 am
Bettina has a pretty face and great figure, but she's an example of not developing a pretty "inside".
I agree. As for her rude dad & the two witchy moms: Ugly outside, ugly inside.
If they're all so smart, then why don't they know that they should act at least a little bit gracious to somebody they're hosting, especially as it's being broadcast on national TV? It's not like they invited a child molester to dinner or something. It's fine to have your doubts and concerns about who your daughter is dating, but give me a break with the extreme nastiness. I'm glad that Brad didn't mince any words about his discomfort and how they made him feel. His camera interviews regarding them were great. They were definitely the worst hosts in Bachelor history (matched with probably the sweetest bachelor), and there were some good previous contenders for worst hosts (Moana's dad, for one, plus a few rifle-toting dads along the way).
skateCO
Oct 30, 2007 @ 1:10 am
And color me judgemental, but Jenny's "dancing" career? Give me a fucking break. I'm pretty sure I "dance" as well as she does.
But... but... she's "really good at it!"
Blargh. Those types of "dance teams" are neither dancers nor cheerleaders, IMHO. They are professional sets of boobs.
I see her as a girl Brad likes to have fun with, but she doesn't seem the type he'd marry. If "settling down"
really is his most important consideration, I think he'll pick Deanna.
iluvtv313
Oct 30, 2007 @ 1:25 am
Sheena seemed so sweet (and unfortunately looked fabulous in her red dress at the RC), but I guess it's good that he let her go if he didn't have feelings for her. I just hope her mom doesn't ruin her chances with other guys.
And yes, the professor was an ass. The part that really got my goat was when he let out that condescending chuckle when Brad asked why he moved to D.C. Rude!! And I'm dying to know not only who Bettina's ex was, but also the circumstances surrounding their divorce.