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TWoP Roxy
Grandson/Grandfather from around Lake Michigan.
Dale
The first-ever grandparent/grandchild team? Instant pre-like!

But man, Nicolas really towers over Donald. He's like a redwood compared to him!

Kind of unnerved that they put Nicolas on the left rather than the right, though.
Good Queen Jane
Since Nicolas is a pilot, that should put a lot of interesting spins on the airport dramas. I wonder if he flies for one of the commercial airlines?
SwedishMafiosa
Hmm.. it sounds like Nicolas plans on being the navigator and the driver. And work the airports. He's kinda making Donald out to be the next Flo.

Still, I'm rooting for them, but can't think they'll go very far unless Donald has some serious fitness and strength for roadblocks.
mtlchickie
If Nicolas is a commercial pilot, I am REALLY interested as to what he can do at an airport.
Jer2002
Fat load of good that did the ATC's though. Well ok they weren't pilots but dumb Josh thought it'd help.
Radagast
I would think a pilot would do better than an ATC at the airport game, given that he actually travels and sees multiple airports. Time will tell, naturally.
Racerex
They show Nicolas getting out of a light plane, and based our of San Juan? It's says "works for an airline", and "Occupation: Pilot", if it was a biggie, they'd have him listed as "commercial airline pilot", I don't think he'll be a huge help around airports.

Oh, and in that listing on TV Guide,
"He describes himself as reliable, competitive and goofy"
I mean, GOOFY! Seriously? Not what I'm looking for in a pilot.

But if they have skydiving, I'm thinking he's good to go.
Good Queen Jane
I wonder if he has an ID which will let him into pilot lounges or airline offices at the airport to get insider info on flights or priority on seats/waiting lists.
auntlada
I don't think he'd be allowed to take that kind of ID on the race, Good Queen Jane.
Ashe
I wonder why the grandchild is listed before the grandparent? "Donald & Nicolas" rolls off the tongue more easily than "Nicolas & Donald."
joanne3482
Good Queen Jane my sister who is not a pilot but does work for a major airline has an ID that helps her get through airport security and at her own airline, but that's it. And it isn't always helpful at all airport security stations she's found, it depends on the airport so I suspect even if he did have some form of ID like that it probably wouldn't help him too much. Especially when you consider all the international travelling they're doing.

I do like the idea of this team. I hope they are as awesome in reality as I want them to be. I find I really prefer the family teams (including marrieds) to the dating teams.
johnblue
Nicholas looks a bit like Ron, the Iraqi War POW. And it looks like CBS needs a new editor: "He describes his Teammate as rough around the edges and not too excepting[SIC] of people who go against his advice."
Nutjob
Nicholas looks a bit like Ron, the Iraqi War POW.


I thought the same thing!

I also like the idea of this team. It has to be cool to have a grandpa who feels young enough to undertake something like this. It could be very cool.
Wasatch Gal
I can't help warming to a Grandpa/Grandson team. I hope they do well.
OttoZilch
I wonder why the grandchild is listed before the grandparent?


Probably because there's already a "Ronald/Christina" (like Kelly/Jon and Jon/Al in the same season). It's weird to have a parent-child team where the older one doesn't have their name first.
Kstar
I have to say that I have a lot of pre-like for these two. I hope that Donald is Rudy-tough and that they go far!
JackiFL
I mean, GOOFY! Seriously? Not what I'm looking for in a pilot.


Possible to be goofy (as a personality trait) and a great pilot (skills and tactics), the two are not mutually exclusive. I like a pilot with some personality... and this kid has it.

And what an amazing opportunity to be able to travel with grandparent (grandchild) on this race! My favorite team based on this dynamic... has nothing to do with the fact that Nic is friends with my daughter and her fiance...
mattp
He describes his Teammate as rough around the edges and not too excepting of people who go against his advice.


CBS has got to be kidding me.
thuganomics85
Oh, a grandparent/grandson team! This is defintely interesting. And both Nicolas and Donald seem like cool guys, so I'm really looking foward to this team. I hope they last a good amount of episodes.
beeswing
The idiotic misuse of "excepting" for "accepting" kept distracting me from what I meant to say about these two, specifically because of that quote:

On the fence about this team, but only because I'd hate to see cranky Grandpa (who doesn't like it when people don't take his advice...) berating/bossing goofy Grandson should Grandson come up with an idea or two.

Amid the "volatile" this and the "bitchy" that and the "putting our relationship to the test" hootie on the other contestant bios, I hope that Nicolas & Donald will be somewhat functional and fun.
El Guapo
About friggin' time they had a grandparent/grandkid team. That makes them an instant pre-favorite for me. Don't look too much alike, though. Someone in the intervening generations must have had the tall gene.
theschnauzers
The biographical information on CBS and in the press release stated that Nicolas is a pilot for an airline who flies out of San Juan, so I accept that at face value.
Also, since Nicolas attended college to earn a degree in an aviation program, it is possible to be an airline pilot at 23. But heck, he must have started flying when he was 13 or so, since there's a good bit of flying time required to have a pilot license endorsed for any passenger airline aircraft. Also means that Nicolas should be able to read any map.
I am glad to see that TAR finally has a grandparent/grandchild team, though.
Dale
Oh, darn. I just noticed Nicolas has a face resembling that of Eric from Big Brother 8. And that is not a good thing.
jeselise
He is a first officer for American Eagle Airlines, which is a regional airline for American Airlines. I don't know him but my husband works for American Eagle and so the news spread through the company. He is young but Eagle does hire individuals with less than 1000 hours of flight time, especially for bases that really need pilots, like San Juan PR.
isiscloud
Donald looks like a tough bird and hopefully he/they won't crash & burn early.

I'm sure Nicholas won't have his airline pass, but any knowledge of flights, operations, & conditions will be helpful working flight times. Plus, he could work the reservations desks like no one.
the twisted one
Pre-fave! But...
I'd hate to see cranky Grandpa (who doesn't like it when people don't take his advice...) berating/bossing goofy Grandson should Grandson come up with an idea or two.

Ditto.
OttoZilch
but any knowledge of flights, operations, & conditions will be helpful working flight times.


That's what we all thought about Steve/Dave, who ultimately got eliminated because they couldn't get a good flight out of France.

Much as I'm rooting for these guys, they've got a worrying "first boot" feeling about them.
killercoconut
I wonder what Granpa's job is/was. The bio doesn't even mention if he is retired.

It makes me speculate he is/was a loan shark or a janitor or something.
labral
It does say Donald is retired. i want to know what his career had been as well.
Dale
Donald's favorite racer ever is apparently Mirna.
Jer2002
Yuck.
hegellite
I saw a promo during Survivor, and apparently the grandson likes the grandfather because they "talk about girls in the same way." Huh? And, ew. I feel some pre-dislike already.
Roomy Twin
I haven't seen this mentioned elsewhere: Nicolas and Donald are the son and father-in-law (respectively) of Alt-Country legend Robbie Fulks.
Dale
Related to a celebrity, eh? Interesting. Wonder if they know any great country tunes?
devajd
Aww - I thought it was so cute to have a grandson / grandpa team, but now that I know about the country music and Mirna love - double pre-dislike!
isiscloud
I saw a promo during Survivor, and apparently the grandson likes the grandfather because they "talk about girls in the same way." Huh? And, ew. I feel some pre-dislike already

Yeah, I heard that, too...and it didn't sit well with me either.

That's what we all thought about Steve/Dave, who ultimately got eliminated because they couldn't get a good flight out of France.

Those guys couldn't get out of their own way. And a lot does come from getting to the airport before anyone else and flights available to the specific country they're going to and I think a pilot is different from ATC work. Hopefully, Nic will work it better.
the twisted one
Donald's favorite racer ever is apparently Mirna.

What?! NO.
the grandson likes the grandfather because they "talk about girls in the same way."

I didn't see the promo but he might have meant it in a good way. Perhaps Grandson really respects "girls" and that he got that from Grandpa. Or maybe not.
hegellite
didn't see the promo but he might have meant it in a good way. Perhaps Grandson really respects "girls" and that he got that from Grandpa. Or maybe not.


I'm not completely sure of the whole context, but since they both roared with laughter, elbowed each other, and looked red, I'm not sure respecting women was the topic.
tarsier
If the kid's like most 23-year-olds, he just figured out for the first time that Gramps got laid in college and it was quite a shock to him. Let them bond ;-)
MarkC99
Why is it we finally get a shot of a man in his underwear from a not-so-attractive man in the season with the least attractive male cast? I didn't know whether to laugh or admire him for his sheer craziness. Those were interesting previews.

I don't think they have much hope (he took a bad fall in this episode, didn't he?) but I *loved* the moment where they were casually walking down the road with their donkey, passing up all the teams who treated their animals like objects of cruelty.
Dale
I think they'll make it relatively far. Fifth place on the first leg isn't too shabby. But yeah, Donald's physical prowess does have me worried about them.
momlyd
I don't think they have much hope (he took a bad fall in this episode, didn't he?) but I *loved* the moment where they were casually walking down the road with their donkey, passing up all the teams who treated their animals like objects of cruelty.


I laughed so loud at his comment, "These are so easy to move, aren't they?" as they were passing the Stuck Ones that I woke up my dog. HA!

I thought it looked like Donald was having some serious ankle issues on the hillside there but his comment made it sound like his shoe was stuck. I didn't notice any limping as he was walking by with his wonderful sassy self.
blackwing
Nicholas looks a bit like Ron, the Iraqi War POW.
I just noticed Nicolas has a face resembling that of Eric from Big Brother 8. And that is not a good thing.
I don't think he looks like Ron at all. I think he looks like a combination of ratface Eric and whiny DJ Paolo. I wish I could say I won't hold it against him, but those are two of my most hated reality contestants ever.

The "we like to talk about girls in the same way" was very disturbing. Yuck.
stopeslite
I thought he looked a little like Patrick of Susan-and-Patrick, which is all kinds of bad.
Dale
Donald will worry me if he makes falling down during the race a habit.
TheRabbi
I hope we never see Donald in his skivvies again.
MarchingOcelot
On his grandfather's rather quick resorting to stripping, Nicolas says:

“I have no comment.”

Oh, but I do Nicolas. Namely: WHYYYYY?
Ashe
As right as Ronald was that they were being too rude to their ticket lady, I'm a bit glad they still got on the flight over him and Christina.

And yes, no more near-naked Donald, please.

But . . . did I hear Nicolas call his grandfather by his first name?
stephanie08
I don't think Nicolas was being too rude to the ticket lady...ok maybe a little, but I think it came off more as rude because he was so hyped up and worried about getting on the flight. Probably just the adrenaline.

I'm liking this team.

And count me in as another not ever wanting to see Donald in his skivvies!!
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