Apparently, Brad does have to cut a bitch.

Hilary- Not a graceful exit! She kind of missed his whole "friend vibe" speech that he gave earlier in the evening.

DeAnna- She is actually growing on me. She's definitely the prettiest minus the overplucked eyebrow situation. I'm excited about her home visit. Her family seems cool.

Sheena- So bland and neutral. I am excited about her mom in next week's episode. She seems like freak.

Bettina- Did anyone else notice her hairstyle in the final ceremony? She had these weird tufts of hair strategically positioned in front of her ears. It was kind of golden retriever-y.

Kristy- Was she even in this episode? She was really pretty. Bye bye.

Jenni- As annoying and baby-voiced as she is, she seems pretty genuine.

I hardly noticed her the first couple of episodes, but Sheena really stood out tonight. She doesn't engage in the cattiness and behind-your-back talk like some of the others, and she looked striking on the 1-on-1 date. Very polished for a 23-year-old.

Does her hair ever look good? To me it always looks as if she just rolled out of bed. She's very pretty, otherwise.

Sheena's trip down the stairs would have been MUCH funnier had they not shown it in the previews.

Oh Hilary. Almost makes me want to be a scorned Bachelorette for Halloween. I was actually really uncomfortable for Brad where she was concerned.

No wonder Hillary couldn't breathe - that dress was about three sizes too small. It didn't even zip up all the way in the back, and her poor boobs were smashed flat. And whoa, I think the, "I just wanted daddy to be proud of me," explains everything we need to know about Hil. I hope she finds a nice boy back out in the real world. And a nice therapist to talk her through some of those father issues.

Someone said in last week's thread that Brad seems to realize how patently ridiculous the show is, and I completely agree. I think, in fact, Brad is a stealth snarker. I have no idea how he sat through Sheena's poem (that was Sheena, right?) without cracking up, but his deadpan response was priceless: "I'm...speechless. Can I keep this?" It's anyone's guess whether he's treasuring it forever and ever or if he's taking it home to produce at some opportune time during the next guys' night out just to see if he can make Chad snort beer out of his nose.

Then again, the last truly terrible rhyming poetry on this show was from Ryan Sutter, the only person to have ever married and spawned with a Bachelor/ette.

Jenni seems to continue to have this one sewn up.

How awesome was it to see Hillary go completely bonkers at the end of this episode? And then to see the sweet and loveable Sheena get a hometown date instead of her?? Fantabulous! Ahhh, but it takes so little to entertain me on a Monday night. And tonight's episode was thoroughly entertaining.

But really, why did she keep tearfully begging him why he cut her? As Brad attempted to politely explain to all, he wanted to let her down gently pre-rose ceremony with the whole "just like you as friend" spiel, and she took that to mean that he LOVED their friendly nature/"connection" and went on to babble about how she wanted her husband to be her best friend too, blah, blah, blah, clueless. Homegirl was totally clueless from Day 1! She seriously needs to take a Dating 101 course because she's pretty scary. Yeah, I'll bet her daddy's REAL proud of her now!

Hometown dates, how I love them...I can hardly wait until next week!

I thought Hilary's exit was surprisingly un-psycho, or I would have if I hadn't seen her completely flip out and weep on one of their earliest dates. As someone who is in the throes of unrequited love for the first time (although, not on the Bachelor, and not with Brad, or with Chad...thank god for small blessings), it IS puzzling. Yes, Hilary is twitty and weepy, but I find her "110%" prettier than Sheena or Jenni.

Deanna: Did they keep trying to hide her bikini-clad body? I don't get this at all. They advertise the bikinis, and they trot the B'ette's out in bikinis. Why don't they just stop the camera, fix it on the women, and give us a good head-to-toe look at what they look like in their damn bikinis? I'm watching The Bachelor, for godsake. I want to scrutinize the women and evaluate what they look like, in detail.

Anyway, Deanna's back to getting more of a winner's edit than last week.

Sheena: Brad is 110% unattracted to this girl. But since she had great chemistry with Chad, he's going to keep her forever. She seems nice enough, but I find her un-cute from the neck up, with too much of the wrong kind of makeup and a rodenty face. Hilary had a prettier face, R.I.P. The poem was agonizingly bad. Brad, to his credit, looked frightened. I hope Sheena doesn't "win." Chad is already married.

Jenni: Another one who I find really, really not cute from the neck up. Especially with that misguided headband. She comes off as just not very bright. I'm back to actively disliking her. Something about her pathetically stupid facial expressions. It's too bad that last week, Bettina and Deanna were shown to have stealthily reprehensible personalities, because Jenni just seems like a sub-average little twit. I don't want to be stuck rooting for her. I really don't. But I prefer her to Sheena. It's like they're both kind of dumb and not that cute, but Jenni seems more mature, cares about her own career and said so, has chemistry with Brad, has more of a presence in every context and can do some awesome acrobatics.

Kristy: I saw the moustache this time. I wouldn't have noticed it if it weren't mentioned in last week's thread, but now it was all I could see. I'd been rooting for her. TPTB cut her out of this episode almost entirely. I guess she didn't get drunk, weep and make a huge ass of herself.

Bettina: Joking that her date sucked compared to getting diamond earrings to keep was so normal, and didn't really say anything at all about how she feels about Brad or her reasons for being there. Jenni's whole thing about that reminded me of some of the really stupid, insipid girls in my first high school. She looks prematurely washed-out, but is still loads prettier than Jenni. If she hadn't referred to Jenni as a "liar and a slut" last week for kissing The Bachelor and not braying about it all over the house, I might be rooting for her still. Their date seemed painful.

I dunno. I can't root for any of these women. Amazingly, I like Brad better than I like any of them. Hell, I even like Chad better than I like them. And I really don't like Chad.

I thought Hillary was so funny and completely clueless when she batted her eyelashes and said she loved her white gown as she hoped it would make Brad think how pretty she would look in a wedding dress. How delusional.

I am however surprised that they showed us that Hillary was leaving in the previews for tonight's episode. This must be the first time they let us know who was leaving before the show aired.

So true! Every time she gasped for breath during those sobs, her chest heaved and I grew increasingly scared. I truly thought one of the girls was going to break free. She should have left her prom dress at home.

I did crack up when Brad said earlier in the episode that it was difficult to talk to her because she just didn't listen. I think the poor guy did try to warn her in the best way he could (keeping in mind the Bachelor Code of not being completely forthright with his feelings).

I loved Kristy's hair at the rose ceremony tonight. And I would have joined her pool side instead of running my fat ass across the lawn onto a slip n slide.

I'm certainly glad they did...I've been looking forward to this crapfest all weekend!

This episode was greatness. Sheena falling down the stairs was hilarious, even though they gave it away in the preview. I think she handles herself well. She's young, but very polished, seemed horrified at her mom in the preview for next week, and I think she's a nice match for Brad. Well, if he hadn't met Jenni, who I think is perfect for him.

Brad seems like such a normal guy, and Jenni is a nice and normal girl. They'd be very happy in Austin together (after she finishes her season) and I don't think it'll be all drama-fied.

Bettina reminds me of a good friend of mine...very defensive about her divorce, but that's because she was made to feel like a total pariah. I have a feeling Bettina got a good bit of that as well, but her bitchiness is driving me nuts. I think she's just doing it as a defense mechanism, but I wish she'd cut it out.

Deanna, blah. BLAH.

As for Hillary...was she not LISTENING to him? Geez, girl. He was trying so hard to say what he meant, and she just saw kittens and candy and babies and wedding dreses.

Poor Brad did everything but sit down and draw Hillary a map to Friendville. Well, she'll never get out of Delusion Town now. It's captured on film forever and ever. Awesome.

I'm just not seeing it with Bettina and Brad. Maybe they're hiding the chemistry in the edit, but the Gondola ride looked a little uncomfortable to me.

My unspoiled guess is that DeAnna and Jenni are the final two, especially based on the promos showing Sheena's Mom as Kookoo for Coco Puffs and the Disapproving Family of Bettina.

I need to know what filthy things Hillary was drunkenly spewing poolside about what she wanted to do with Brad! I had to replay that a few times... All I could get was "... from behind" and then the slapping of the ass thing. That seemed way more exciting to me than the poor girl's crying jag at the end. Oh, I would love to see the unedited version on Youtube, or anywhere, some day..!

I was just going to post that duckncvr. I thought I also saw her say something about pulling her boobs out? What the...? She was as clueless as they come.


Deanna is very man-ish. I don't know. I don't feel one way or another about her anymore.

I think I like Sheena the most at this point. 23 is so young though.

I don't see a real connection with anyone and I think whomever he chooses will be cast aside as soon as the final ceremony airs.

This rose ceremony had to be the...LEAST dramatic rose ceremony EVER. Between the previews showing Hillary acting like a desperate goon and Kristy getting about 5 seconds of screen time, hmmm...wonder who were receiving the 4 roses?

Although I have to say, the blurred out skinny dipping scene in the final credits was pretty damn funny.

One can only hope Hillary is horrified at tonight's episode. Wow.

And I catch a major wack of desperation in Bettina. She is falling more and more in love with him? And she barely looks him in the eye while speaking and without twirling her 5 strands of hair? She seems so completely fake and I think her love match is more like Ken Doll Andy instead of Brad.

Speaking of which...Brad is totally shaping up to be my favorite Bachelor. At least he seems genuine and a little freaked by the reality of the crazy.

I don't think she was really saying anything that dirty. It reminded me a lot of Jimmy Kimmel's "This Week in Unnecessary Censorship" that bleeps & blurs out totally innocuous things people are saying to make it look like they're cussing like a sailor. Always good for a few chuckles. *g*

I'm still on the Jenni train, though I'm quite sure nothing will become of it. I think Brad's attracted to DeDe (she is very cute), but when he said she was so "strong" I took it to mean "maybe a little too controlling & high-strung" for him. He seems really laid back. A pretty airhead like Jenni would be a much better match.

Sheena seems nice enough but it looks like her mother is a real piece of work. Bettina is a raging bitch & her entire family looks to be a little unhinged. Run, Brad, RUN!!!

I'm still calling Jenni & DeDe as final two, with Jenni getting the final rose.

Personally, I think I'd rather get the Chopard earrings. SCORE! Sheena!!

How could Sheena write such drivel and then read it outloud. That was unbearable. Brad's face was frozen in horror. Actually Brad's body lanquage in the epi was very interested. His arms were folded across his chest as Bettina was sharing her feelings. On the gondola ride his body was shifted away from her. He did not look relaxed at all. Then Sheena did the opposite - as Brad was sharing some intense feelings - she reached a took a swig of the merlot.

Kristy? Checked out before this episode even began. Which for my personal entertainment was boring. Come on Kristy! We need drama, tears and slurred words!

Have been looking forward to Hillary loosing her marbles all week and then when it happened it was so delusional it was sad. Wanting to make her father proud? For snagging the Bachelor? Yikes!

Jenni grates. And the close up of her during her confrontation with Betinna was not flattering. Looked puffy and somewhat bloated. I still think Bettina was just snarking about her "boring" date and did the same when she said Jenni was a "slut...and a liar." It did not seem serious at all. In fact, I like that kind of humor better than Jenni's humor which so far consists of constantly laughing at nothing.

Finally, thanks to the two posters who called Bettina's ears and hair "golden-retrieverly" and Shenna's face "rodently." Beautiful. Actually, Sweetness.

I played this section over and over because I wanted to know too! From my not so talented stab at lip reading, I saw "today was the first day I saw Brad with his shirt off and it was very nice. I would let him ravish me anytime. I would want him to (BEGINNING OF BEEP)...(not sure here as they only cut back to her long enough for...) "take my clothes off... and like bend me over... (then this part was pixellated ).....like slap my ass a couple times and then (couldn't understand this part) like call it a day.. who wouldn't want that? I'm trying to think of something G rated" END OF BEEP

Wasn't there supposed to be six bachlorettes this show? Kristy didn't even get an on-air good bye to us!! Wow, wonder why no Kristy.

From the previews it looks like mom's sporting the same 'do.

This from the virginal "used car" chick. Her freak out was not nearly as entertaining as the previews led me to believe (while still all kinds of awesome). So once they gave her exit away and then didn't even show Kristy this episode it's not like it was hard to figure out who was getting those home town dates. Can't wait.

Who was it? They didn't show it here.

Brad seems really genuine and sweet, but I'm starting to notice him using the same lines with slightly different flavour for each of the girls. For example, "I've been thinking about you a lot since our date" - sometimes he "can't stop thinking about it", sometimes he's only "been think about it" but he's used some variation of this several times.

I am crazy about Brad. I love his personality.

I think Kristy had decided she didn't really want to be part of this experience anymore and wasn't going to lower her standards by participating in the pool party. It's not her thing and as lovely as she is, she cannot loosen up at all. Plus I did detect a little eye problem -- it's like they roll up in her head when she blinks sometimes. So she was outtathere and when they parted, she and Brad actually said "it was nice to meet you". Oh my gosh!!

Deanna is someone I wouldn't be friends with. She seems like a bulldozer-type. She is okay-pretty, but doesn't look that great unless her hair and makeup are done. I sincerely hope he doesn't choose her.

Bettina is a complete fake and a flake. I cannot stand women who are one way with men -- i.e., her innocent and hard-to-get act with Brad -- and then a bitch with women. And this is at least the second time she's told Jenni "oh you must have misunderstood me..." What a line. That's the biggest thing that bugs me with this show (and yet I keep watching) is when the Bachelor doesn't see what the woman is really like when she's in the B-ette house with the girls. Never trust a girl who can't make and keep girlfriends.

And now Jenni...yep, she's my favorite. I like that she doesn't say much when the other girls are bitching and when she had a concern about Bettina, she asked her straight up. She didn't get into a debate when Bettina answered (scrambled to answer) -- she just quietly nodded her head and knew what the real deal was. I like Jenni's warmth and smile and bubbly personality. The headband and her dress tonight didn't do her any favors though.

I hope Brad picks Jenni. She'd fit in fine in Austin.

I'm liking this season more than others, and it's mostly because of Brad. I've only seen a few (Bob, Meredith, some of Byron and an episode or so of Prince whatever) so not a lot to compare him to, but he's so direct in his camera time it's actually surprising to me. Right from episode one with pretzel girl I've just found his reactions and comments pretty funny. There's still the required quota of generic "amazing girl" and "connection" and all that nonsense but he seems quite forthcoming about his feelings and unafraid to make it clear who he's not into.

Tonight of course was dead obvious, but even without the Hillary preview and the Kristi-who? edit I think it would have been easy to call. He clearly likes Jenny and Deanna (I agree on probable final 2) and is at least interested and trying with Sheena and Bettina. There may be some producer push involved there I think but at least he's not phoning it in.

Sheena gets my vote tonight for saying "I feel like the luckiest woman in the world" or whatever - not girl! Shocked the hell out of me, but I approve. I'm pretty indifferent to her otherwise though, she's not at all memorable to me and I'm not really seeing any chemistry between them.

I've only seen a few seasons too (Trista, Blob, Jen, the football guy, Andy Baldwin) but this one seems like potential for the biggest mismatch. I can't see Brad staying with any of these ladies. Jenni is all kinds of annoying, and they will surely return to her "modeling book" at some crucial moment. Bettina is increasingly getting the Bevin edit. No girl will win whose chief feature is that the Bachelor's brother likes her. That leaves Deanna. Since she seems to be the stealth bitch, I'm not impressed. But the "My Big Fat Greek Wedding" preview makes me think she'll win.

Who am I kidding, Jenni will win. This show favors baby voices.

All in all, though, I think Max Sutter will continue to be the only B/B'ette spawn for some time.

I am falling more and more in love with Bettina, which is frustrating because she is falling more and more in love with Brad. The sad thing is I think I have as much chance as marrying her as she does of marrying him. Despite the divorce history, or maybe because of it, I think Bettina is the best marriage material out of all of these girls. The others really have seemed immature. What's with the skinnydipping? Yup, that's what I want my future wife to be doing on TV.

The best part: "Coming up next, it's the most dramatic Bachelor exit ever as Hillary loses her mind."

The worst part: Listening to Sheena read a lame poem, read off of a folded up piece of paper that had been torn out of a spiral notebook. She's 23 going on 12.

The weirdest part: Hillary's filthy mouth spewing dirty thoughts.

Totally agree. If I really thought about it, I could name 10 other more dramatic rose ceremonies and crazier exits than tonight's episode!

So Bettina tells Brad that she has deeper feelings for him than anyone else ever (or some such thing), yet she's been married before, and has she ever even kissed Brad before? No wonder he said "wow" in response. How is she in love with him without anything really happening between them yet? I think she's just confusing love with infatuation.

Brad may not be the "Sexiest Bachelor Ever" but he gets my vote for the most gentlemanly bachelor ever. The women give him all kinds of crazy stuff to deal with (corny poetry, sobbing through their dates, delusional "love", etc.) and he's so kind to them in return. Plus, I was surprised that he tried to give Hillary the low-down that he was going to let her go before the rose ceremony. She may have been too delusional to hear it, but nobody has done favors like that before! Once she sees herself on TV, I'll bet she kicks herself silly for not hearing him.

Sheena seems like a geniune and nice person. Brad seems like a genuine and nice person. Therefore, it cannot be. Seriously, I was surprised at Sheena. She seems to be more together than I thought. Not crazy about the poem, but it took guts to read it to him and national television.

I liked Kristi. I agree that she checked out early. I'm a "pool person" but I don't blame her for not wanting to participate in the girly fest.

Hilary's dramatic exit wasn't all that. Girl had taken a flight deep into bat country a long time ago.

Lame poem on lame paper but I think that must be one of the "props" they give each girl on the show. We have seen poetry before and it has always been on this spiral bound paper. Ryan's poems for example. I think I remember this on other seasons as well. So no books for these girls, but surely they could do better than the $.89 notebook from the Piggly Wiggly!



That was the most shocking comment right there! Who would have thought Sheena would pull that one out.

I wasn't feeling the Sheena love at all tonight. First off, her voice sounds like a cartoon character. Second, she's not that pretty. Third, she's clearly there because Chad thought she was great, I'm not sure Brad really digs her that much. But her fall down the stairs--priceless.

Hillary's exit was so anti-climatic. So she cried a lot. So what. No where near as good as my all time favorite exit which was the "my eggs are drying up" dr. lady from whoever's season. However, I think it might have been one of the first times a Bachelor went out voluntarily to see if a dumpee was ok. He's too nice for this show.

I really really hope Bettina gets her roots done when she goes home for a few days. I thought she was really giving Brad the clue that she was into him on that date, she was really touchy-feely but his body language was so cold to her. Then we find out she told him she didn't want to be touched. That was weird. Poor Brad.

omg-hilarious!

Seriously Hil...there's a pretty cool invention on the market, it's called WATERPROOF mascara. A weeper like you might want to invest. I was rooting for this gal since she's nearly hometown but oh my...I completely wanted to hand her a tissue to manage the coon eyes...and promise her a trip to The Disney store to cheer her up. A four year old with massive breasts. Poor gal.

Gawd I cannot look at Bettina without seeing Olivia!Newton!John! But did Brad say she was Drop Dead Gorgeous? Maybe slightly...from about one angle with my eyes squinted...but I'm not feeling it dog. Funny because I always thought Olivia Newton was (and for the most part is) drop dead gorgeous.

Brad if you pick Jenni you will have to listen to that laugh for the rest of your life. Run Brad! Run!

I am so confused by Bettina! She won't kiss Brad and won't make the first move, yet she has already been married, so it's not like she is a virgin or anything (one would assume). Why is it a big deal to kiss someone? The hell? And if it is a big deal to you, don't go on the TV program The Bachelor, you stupid ass! It's not like she is sleeping with him or anything. I really don't understand it at all.

I have no idea who will win - Jenni, I guess - but I predict that neither Bettina or Sheena will win based on his body language when he is with them. During both one-on-one dates, he would hug them, but barely look at them. During hugs he would be completely looking over their shoulders and off into the distance. He just seemed so detached, like he was just going through the motions. However, I just have such a hard time believing that they would imply so clearly that Jenni wins. I say it comes down to one blonde (I predict Sheena) and one brunette and the brunette wins - either DeAnna or Jenni. I wish that website where the psychologist would review the episodes and predict who would be cut/win based on body language, etc was still up and running. She/he was always pretty spot on and I'd be curious to see their predictions for this season. [If anyone is interested, here is that website that I mentioned. It only has past seasons, but it's kind of fun to read, if you're into that sort of thing.]

Is it me, or is Jenni getting more and more ugly as the days go on? Not just me, right?

Poor psycho, signs-misreading Hillary! She really was just seeing what she wanted to see...however (and I'm sure this was PTB-directed), he could have been a lot more clear during his "I'll tell how I really feel" talk. Especially since after he finished talking, she said something like she was so glad that they felt the same way and went on to tell him how perfect a husband he would make her, etc. He should have said...um, I think you didn't quite get what I just told you...

So, who was the woman who left in the medi-helicopter? I thought that was going to be this episode! I missed the second episode, so I guess that must have been it?

When does the next season start? This has gotten so old so fast! PTB - can we please get some more interesting women next time? Please?



IMO, she wasn't joking though. I kind of thought she just came up with that after the fact so the other mean girls would leave her alone. It was so funny to me that Jenni wanted to drill her about her true motivations, but when the other women wanted to drill Jenni she wanted no part of it and got up and left.



I am soooo with you there.



I agree 100%. I wish they could just scrap this season and have him come back next season with a new selection of "ladies."

Sheesh. That was the dramatic exit I waited a whole week for? Chris Harrison promised me that Hilary was going to lose her mind and they did not deliver at all. Sure, she cried a lot. But pretty much everything she said was stock Bachelor exit wording: wanted him to fall in love with me, he didn't, blah blah blah brokenheartcakes. And plenty of girls have weeped almost uncontrollably while delivering that obligatory monologue. Color me underwhelmed.

However, when she said that she just wanted to make her daddy proud of her, I turned to YourSister and said, "Ding ding ding! We have a winner!" Hilary, Hilary. Get some therapy. Seriously, sweetheart. For your own good.

Brad did impress me with his going out of his own accord (though, I suppose a producer could've tipped him off and they just edited it out). He does seem like a legitimate nice guy, though I'm still not attracted to him. But he slightly bugged with his, "Please...talk to me...are you OK?" and so on. What was he wanting, her to tell him that she'll be OK forever and ever? You just dumped her, killer. You don't get to go and demand reassurance.

Oh my lord does Bettina grate. And if I hear one more B'ette moralize about being there for the "right reasons" I swear that my TV is going to meet an untimely end on the sidewalk below my second-floor window. At this point, I'd be shocked if anyone other than Jenni wins. She and Brad seem to have some undeniable chemistry and right now she's the only one getting a favorable edit. DeAnna's getting the "undercover bitch" edit. Bettina's getting the "bitch crazy" edit. And Sheena's getting the "nice girl/no chemistry" edit.

I think this is what bothers me about the ptb manipulation.....I think the reason that Brad felt so bad at the end was because he KNEW that Hillary was still in the dark. He had two perfect opportunities (at the pool and right before the rose ceremony) to set H. straight, and I believe he would have done it but it sure wouldn't have made for good drama!

I love all of Brad's "freak out" faces he does when they start talking about love and marriage. Then he turns around and talks about finding a wife. He has the look of a man that wishes for something, then wigs out when he gets it.

I think Jenni is the only one he seems relaxed and real around.....and he's not a good enough actor to pull off the drama with the rest of them. So in my mind, it's Jenni, who I guess is as good as any, but she needs to get over the "she's here for the wrong reasons" crap. Anyone who brings her modeling book and talks about wanting Brad to fall in love with HER needs to reevaluate their own motives.

Her face is definitely inflating as the days go by, and her shoulders have always been a bit too muscular for her thin body. I guess that's a consequence of being a dancer/acrobat, but her face...it's like she had an adverse reaction to some poisonous seafood that Bettina brought home from the gondola date to share with the others.

Every good thought I had about Brad quickly got erased once I realized he would be like all the other Bachelors, making out whenever he could with multiple girls. I really think a good guy would find that very difficult to do. Too much like cheating.

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It was the shemale that fell down the stairs and had a concussion. Happily Brad didn't give Manchele a pity rose and sent her home.

Bettina looks rode hard and put away wet. Maybe Hilary was right, she is like a used car (but not just because she's been married before).

Someone lied when they told Jenni she looks good in a headband. It just empasizes her thin upper lip.

Neither can I. I'm starting to find him really likeable, but this crop of b'ettes he has to choose from is underwhelming, to say the least. Brad seems convinced that Bettina is smart and reserved, but I am convinced that her silence is just her listening to the crickets chirping in her head. His connection (gah, I said it!) with Jenni seems somewhat genuine, but the constant peppy cheerleader mode is growing tiresome.

I'd love to see Brad meet prior seasons' castoffs and "winners" who have since parted ways with their Bachelor. Brad and Tessa? Brad and Meredith? Brad and anyone other than these four? That'd be worth watching!

I can't get over the cliches. They're killing me.

So Brad thought up this wonderful and romantic date. And it included....wait for it....the 5th grade dance premiere decoration of balloons! How romantic! Just wow.

I was also talking with a friend during this and decided that we needed to bring back all the batshit crazy contestants for a Bachelor Season. We can pick smarmy Russ as the Bachelor and the women can be: crazy egg doctor, hillary, moana, etc. I would watch every minute.

At this point in the game I'm calling Deanna as the winner.

I would totally watch an All-Stars Bachelor/ette season. I think they should send them all down to Paradise Hotel for a summer and make them pair up or 'Leave Paradise Forever'.

I really hope after watching this season air that Hilary takes some time to deal with her "issues". But, frankly, I'd be happy if she just learns how to walk in heals, works on her posture, and figures out how to wear a dress. If you're not ready for that, dear, just stick with the field-hockey gear.

Seriously. She didn't even hyperventilate until they needed to call an ambulance. (First season, anyone? And that was after, like, the second round. Maybe the first. "No, Rhonda, you're not having a heart attack. You're having an anxiety attack." Good times.)

Brad is just too much of a hottie ding-dong for me. He seems nice enough, but I would be bored with him in under a minute. Maybe 5 minutes, if he had his shirt off.

Don't forget, he's your Very Own Texas Millionaire. It's going to take you at least 2 days to spend all that money in Austin, which might offset the boredom just a teensy bit longer.

Actually, I'm on the favorite-bachelor-ever bandwagon. He looked so worried and injured over Hilary's rejection tears, then going out there to check on her, as pointless as it was, seemed like something a decent guy with a heart would do. I "Awwww!"-ed it. Also, word to Hil needing therapy. Sounds like she's bringing a lot of daddy issues, which ain't exactly gonna' bring the emotionally healthy boys running. Plus, he's easy on the eyes, and I credit the stiltedness to an inherent shyness of sorts, and a realization that this show is often more like an SNL skit than anything resembling romance.

DeAnna seems like a girl worth reckoning with, but not a good match for Brad. I don't think he needs or wants a Jenny-from-the-block with a 'tude and toughness. I think she's beautiful and her personality is different from what he's used to, so it intrigues him. But long term, it's probably not something he's going to want on a daily basis. If she wins, I'll eat my hat. (It's a small hat...)

I still vote for Jenni. Easiest guess ever, even given the editing. Bettina's gorgeous and would get a lot more attention than Jenni IRL, but seems like she's still got a lot of protective mechanisms (I assume from the divorce, which is totally understandable) that would require a lot more time to start a relationship with her or get her to let her guard down. This show is not about patience and time. That puts her at a disadvantage. And it seemed from the previews that her family had their own defensive issues, which isn't going to help her case.

Christy looked gorgeous. I also would not do the slip-r-slide. I was hearing Dane Cook routines in my head during that entire scene.

I can't wait to see Sheena's home visit. Cringe!! It's going to be awesometastical.

God, exactly. She reminds me of some of the jock girls I went to college with -- perfectly good-looking women, but come a formal event, eee-yikes. Couldn't walk in heels, wore scrunchies with strapless dresses, it just didn't work.

Methinks Hillary has a bunch of brothers and her own horse, and is a little too used to that dynamic.

Her own horse? (tm Sars) no wonder she can recognize "rode hard and put away wet" so easily. The thing I thought was weird was that Her Jersey girl accent seemed eight times stronger last night than it did ever before. That's not normally the way to attract a good southern boy.

I kinda like Bettina. I think she's gorgeous and I loved her dress last night. Not a lot of girls could pull it off, but she rocked it. I also would totally want a pair of gorgeous earrings if I was fairly sure I wasnt going home with the real prize. I like that she has a little ounce of snark in her.

And I'm starting to really like Brad, too. The way he was pacing uncomfortably even before he went outside: you could see that he at least has real emotions and seems to care about the 'ladies'. That's way better than Andy, who seemed too amused by the process to care about the girls.

As far as Jenni goes: She and Brad seem to have chemistry, but they seem to have nothing to talk about. I'm worried. Either Brad picks her and it falls apart when they have to spend three months communicating by phone... or Brad doesnt pick her and she has no idea that he's developping real feelings for other girls. She seems pretty grounded, though, Im sure she''ll be okay.

Oh and Sheena seems to have mastered the talk quietly in Brad's ear so the mikes can't intrude. I see her as a sleeper pick. I think there's more going on between these two than we know.

Thanks for the reminder, TWoP Barnes. I've fixed my shouting (girl just makes me so mad).

Thanks, OldWiseOne. *sigh* I'm sad to have missed that excitement, I was hoping it was going to be last night. Although I should have known better because they only showed poor hyperventilating Hill in the preview and, alas, no helicopter.


Yeah, flopping onto the ground in a bikini and careering off the slip and slide just really isn't attractive. And did Brad even go down it? Or was this something they did while waiting for him? It's so sad to me that Kristy seems to have been kicked to the curb simply becasue she wasn't wild and crazy. Especially when the "wild and crazy" things they were being asked to do were kind of questionable, like the dog begging skits. I mean, if he doesn't like her, so be it, it's just so weird to me that he would be so concerned about it. Even if you own 4 bars, I assume you wouldn't want your wife in there Coyote Ugly-style on the bar.


That's a good point. He took her aside last night to smooch but do they really talk about anything? I wish they would bring back more bachelorette seasons, but maybe recruit a bachelorette instead of using the runner-up. They were, IMO, much better (although, not much more successful) and the 'ettes seemed much more interested in really finding a mate. Even though Brad talks a good game I don't know if I believe him. I wonder how the ratings were for those seasons.

Don't put that one on us. That accent's Philly all the way.

(Which is functionally the same as a Sout' Jersey accent, but still. We ain't claimin' her.)

Down to four: I like two, I don't like two. Guess which?

Poor Christy--was she even in this episode? She was being a bit of a wet blanket, but I wouldn't want to prance around in my bikini for hours on end either.

Bettina has serious bitch on. I watched last week's again right before this week, and she was the instigator of the "Attack Jenni" plan, after she learned she got the first kiss. So I didn't mind Jenni confronting her about her comment that she didn't get a good date, when she got one of the two alone dates. Geez, woman, it's about spending time with Brad, not getting earrings! I think that showed her true colors--and considering she was one of the ones who said Jenni wasn't "there for the right reasons," she pretty much proved that applies to her.

Besides, she looked so bedraggled at the rose ceremony, like she just rolled out of bed in her slip! Weird chick.

Jenni's the same as always, cheerful with Brad.

DeAnna... I can't bring myself to like after last week, with her "I'm so much more mature than Jade," when they're both 25. I think she's more bold and self-confident, but I also think there's a coldness about her. I can't picture her tearing up and crying over Brad, unless she views it as having lost the competition.

Sheena -- a nice surprise. I like her. She sure seems older than 23 in her bearing and manners. You'd think she was ancient when Brad asked her why she was still unattached! She's frikkin' 23, Brad!

Brad: Nice guy, but not much personality. I cannot tell who he likes best yet, since he seems so ready to mac on all the ones who are left. He's a little stilted, like he's thinking out every word he's saying. Chad was much more laid back.

Whoops! Almost left off Hillary. Could Brad have been just a leeeetle more direct with her? He could have gotten the message across in six words: "I see you as a friend." If that wasn't enough, how about, "I only see you as a friend." Or the even more blunt, "I don't have romantic feelings for you."

Poor deluded Hillary. Brad tried so delicately to get the message across, but she was not having it. I felt bad for him, because it was clear that he was dreading the rose ceremony because he knew that she just didn't get it.

I'm still a DeDe fan, and I'd love for her to be the last woman standing. I enjoyed Sheena tonight, and I think she's very real, but a bit youngish, as is Jenni. I see loads of chemistry with Brad and Jenni, but all they seemingly do is make out, and that does not make for a lasting relationship. I don't feel that there is depth there.

Bettina, besides being a stealth bitch, is a "Rules Girl" who enjoys playing mysterious and hard-to-get. She even admitted in a voice over that she generally plays the hard-to-get card when dating. I just see all kinds of fakeness, and her bitchy retort about her date being boring was not appropriate to say out loud even if that is how she felt. She won't kiss Brad, due to her "rules", but she gets pissy when she finds out that others have, especially last week when she went after Jenni.

I see it more as being kicked to the curb for being boring and standoffish. Isn't there some middle ground between going down a slip-n-slide and sitting by yourself all day not talking to anyone?

I agree with those who think it will come down to Jenni and Deanna. TPTB like the whole Good vs. Evil dynamic.

As far as Brad and Jenni are concerned, I know they can't show us everything that goes on between him and his presumed favorite or that would ruin the "surprise", but it also makes it less satisfying when they finally do become "engaged." It's hard to picture them lasting because we've never really seen them interacting. I'd like to see a little more of the Amazing Connection please.

Absolutely. I'm born and raised in Philadelphia, and while Hil has probably spent her share of time donna shore, she definitely has a Philly accent.

Hillary's last name wouldn't happen to be "Havisham," would it? Somewhere she's still wandering around in her half-zipped white dress, tears and mascara running down her face, sobbing "But we had so much chemistry!" And after Brad did everything but flash his message in neon lights: "We're JUST friends, and I'm not too crazy about the friend-y part, either."

Does Jenni remind anyone else of a headband-addicted, baby-voiced Katie Couric? No? Moving on . . .

The home town visits -- always the best part of TB, when the real crazies come out. Too bad Hillary didn't stick around another week, 'cause girl's got some major daddy issues and I was hoping for a replay of the father who threatened one of the bachelors with a gun if he didn't treat daddy's little girl right. Good times, good times . . .