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RudyRayMoore
I think we need a thread to let any lurking Heroes writers know who we will and won't allow to be bumped off this show. I know that I was prepared to not come back this season if my beloved Petrelli brothers were vaporized over NYC.

This year, I had the same response to the painting of Noah Bennet shot in the eye and dying on the floor. This is completely unacceptable, Tim Kring! It would crush the soul of this show and eliminate the character whose motives and morals are the most wonderfully ambiguous. My other "hands off" characters (for now): Sylar, Mohinder, Matt, Monica, Micah (all the "M's") and the entire Petrelli family (including Angela).

Anyone else have any characters they Just. Can't. Lose? Whose death would unacceptably alter the structure of the show?
Mrs Snark
I know who you could kill: Claire. But she's one of the ones you Can't kill off. Blerg.

Don't kill: The Haitian or I'll have to start calling conspiracy. Peter. Nana.
Emmchen82
This is a difficult question, because there are so many characters I don't want to lose on this show. I'm also not a big fan of killing characters just for dramatic purposes. For me, it should be a good reason behind it, not just "hm, ok, who will go next to get a shock out of it?".

I really, really don't want them to kill off HRG. He was probably the character in S1 that grew most on me, from pretty unlikable to a character I cared about. I think it would really hurt the show if he was killed off. He's sort of the guy with connections everywhere.
Also, no killing of the Petrelli-brothers. (Or dramatically altering the Peter character, which for me is almost like killing the Peter of S1.)
I also would definately dislike it very strongly if they killed Matt or Mohinder.

Sylar. I don't know there. If they kill him off, it should not be because of "eh, we got an even worse character now, so old Sylar isn't needed." I don't think I want him killed off. Not yet, anyway. I don't feel like his part in the story is over. Especially not now when they already brought him back once.

I doubt they would kill off Micah (kids are usually safe on shows, right?) and Claire, therefore I'm not commenting on them.
Aunty Mib
To make the contrary arguement.

We were promised a show that was plot based instead of actor based. I don't want to see Heroes go down the same path as Lost where they bring in new characters just to kill them off while the old characters are stuck going over the same riffs each and every episode.

I'm not interested in seeing Sylar being neutered like Spike in BTVS. I'm not interested in 'amnesiac Peter in Oirland'. I like both actors but I can grow to hate them very quickly if they are put on the screen for no reason other than 'people like the characters but there's no place for them in the plot'. I doubt if it's all that good for the actor's careers to go from being the best thing in a show to being the reason people hit the mute button and go get a soda.

So, there's not one person that I would say, 'You can't kill'. I want the characters in Heroes to be able to affect me as much as the death of Santos in Ugly Betty. I want the shock of when Kensei got riddled with arrows not the boredom when Peter got shot.
zittles
Well Maya is one 'M' I wouldn't mind died, But please don't kill off the others, Mohinder, Matt, Molly, Micah (much cooler than his mother), Monica (finally a woman who isn't emo and kicks ass), Mr. Muggles.

Especially the House of M, I've became exceedingly fond of them these past few episodes, and they are one of the only domestic situations that works and isn't boring. It's not just the novelty of the two dads (though that helps) or because they are currently central to the plot, but because a family like the Sanders-Hawkins' abilities don't combine well, but the M3's combined could make a powerful core that keeps the hero's connected.
Emmchen82
So, there's not one person that I would say, 'You can't kill'. I want the characters in Heroes to be able to affect me as much as the death of Santos in Ugly Betty. I want the shock of when Kensei got riddled with arrows not the boredom when Peter got shot.


On the other hand, if a character has a good enough story, shouldn't there be ways to make them interesting for more than one season? If you can't think of things to keep the characters interesting more than a couple of episodes or so, maybe you also should stop and think about how you're telling the story.
Bussy
Mohinder and Nathan are my two hands-off characters. I find them to be the most relatable characters, one powered, one not, and there's just so much versatile story potential with those two. I also really want to keep David Anders on my screen. I can't ask for too much on this show, so I'll limit myself to those three. I'd be sad to lose Ando, HRG, and Hiro, though.

This is a difficult question, because there are so many characters I don't want to lose on this show. I'm also not a big fan of killing characters just for dramatic purposes.
Exactly. Much as I like Ali Larter and Noah Gray-Cabey as actors, they would have been a perfect example of how to get a storyline off the show without a death. Niki and DL had basically made up in the finale, which was lovely. Niki and Jessica had merged into one, which was also lovely. Niki used her powers to fight Sylar; good for her. Micah had a family again. Just send them home with Linderman's money and let them fade away. No need for deaths.

Speaking of which, I would have been happy for Claire to have gone off to boarding school in Paris for half the season, as Mrs. Petrelli wanted. See, that's another great way to have a character get off the show for awhile without deaths. She could have come back sometime in January. It would have given the wonderful HRG a chance to have a truly badass storyline on his own (I could watch the HRG/Mohinder conspiracy all day). Same with Peter; I would have rathered to have him sit out like six episodes and really make us think he's dead, and then spent half of two episodes catching us up with him in a way that was awesome. While Nathan gets a really cool Peter-less storyline.

I completely adore Sylar, but I think I'll be ok with his death when it comes. It had just better be 100x more interesting than the sword puncture in the finale. And there had better be some amazing closure on his dynamic with Mohinder before he goes. I also feel less bad about Zach Quinto since he has such a promising film career opening up.
Emmchen82
I'd be sad to lose Ando, HRG, and Hiro, though.


Can't believe I forgot about Ando and Hiro... I would not like it if they killed off Ando or Hiro, since I think they work best together. They really make a great pair.
Hiro brings a rather unique piece to the story altogether, he's the one who just can't believe his luck of getting powers. Would they dare to kill off Hiro though? I mean, whoever killed Hiro would be (at least for me) marked as just evil, since Hiro at this point pretty much is "all good".
RudyRayMoore
I'm also not a big fan of killing characters just for dramatic purposes. For me, it should be a good reason behind it, not just "hm, ok, who will go next to get a shock out of it?".

Emmchen82, ICAM. Ever since 24 became a hit, it's been fashionable to bump off major characters on TV dramas just for the shock value. Yes, random deaths happen in real life, but as Bussy wrote, there are other dramatically satisfying ways to eliminate characters without just killing them.

On the other hand, if a character has a good enough story, shouldn't there be ways to make them interesting for more than one season?

Again, WORD. The mystery of the older generation of Heroes is interesting enough that characters like Peter and Hiro didn't have to be thrust into entirely new (Oirish) storylines or threatened with death.

I doubt if it's all that good for the actor's careers to go from being the best thing in a show to being the reason people hit the mute button and go get a soda.

cough*Hiro*cough...Aunty Mib, I agreed in theory with your entire post but emotionally, it's hands off the Petrellis!...
Aunty Mib
I guess I should have been more specific and said that there were characters I don't mind disappearing from the show, not ones whom I insist that they kill.

The Nathan plot would have had a lot more kick TO ME if we hadn't known that Peter is alive and shirtless in Cork. As it is, instead of watching Nathan mourn we just wait for Peter to get back to New York so his screen time will mean something.

Likewise, I would have preferred to not see Sylar until the Wondertwins almost run him over.

But if I knew for certain that Matt, Mohinder and Molly couldn't be killed I'd be a lot less interested in their story lines. I want to feel that Mohinder is taking a real risk in working with Bob. I want to feel that the Boogeyman has Molly and Matt will have to deal with the guilt. I want Matt to face a dangerous situation-maybe the Boogeyman or the return of Sylar where both he and I are aware that he could end up dead.

I don't want any of the other characters to become as dull as Peter in Oirland is. Peter gets shot, whatever. Peter is going to the Dark Side of the Force. It doesn't really count.
Emmchen82
The Nathan plot would have had a lot more kick TO ME if we hadn't known that Peter is alive and shirtless in Cork. As it is, instead of watching Nathan mourn we just wait for Peter to get back to New York so his screen time will mean something.

Agreed. Most definately agreed.
Have you seen the old Trek movies? I think they did it right in the movie "The Search for Spock", when they didn't include Nimoy's name in the opening credits. You could guess that, yeah, Spock might very well be alive, but you couldn't be sure of it until later on in the movie.

Here, it's almost as if they were afraid that people would stop watching if they didn't show at once that "don't worry - they live!". I guess they did it so that no viewers were lost, but they sort of missed out on some drama as well.
rowanceleste
Here, it's almost as if they were afraid that people would stop watching if they didn't show at once that "don't worry - they live!". I guess they did it so that no viewers were lost, but they sort of missed out on some drama as well.


I agree...the fans are very invested in certain characters and while some are more popular than others...if both Nathan and Peter had died or appeared to have died in the finale and people thought they weren't going to be in Season 2, I'm sure there would have been a lot of people who said, 'Well, if both Nathan and Peter are dead, then I'm not going to bother watching.'

Luckily, I'm invested in enough characters that my watching isn't tied to one or two specific characters, but I definitely agree that I don't think the only way off the show should be to die and even then, not all deaths have to be some dramatic murder by another hero, as long as it makes sense. For instance, I agree with the person that said at the end of S1, Niki, Micah and DL could gently faded away as a happy family, trying to blend into the day to day in Las Vegas, now that Linderman was dead. Micah could go to his private school as they wouldn't have to worry about money with Micah's talent. (Hopefully they'd be smart enough not to have Micah move money from Linderman's account or anything though, since that would draw attention to them.) But in that scenario, there would always be the possibility of something drawing Niki, DL or Micah back into the 'fray' maybe in season 3 or at the end of season 2, since they'd still be alive.

On the flip side, as much as I love Adrian Pasdar, keeping Nathan alive after his brother exploded in his arms and his own power is flight, makes no sense to me at all. I can completely see Peter surviving as Claire survived being burned alive and Peter can also heal, but Nathan? Sylar being alive also makes sense to me, not because I love Sylar, but because they explained how he survived and he's still recovering from his injuries, etc. Bottom line, I guess alive, dead or sort of moved to 'stasis' off to the side, it needs to make sense for the storyline for me. Its not like every single character from S1 that's still alive can continuously be trying to 'save the world', so I like the idea of some of them going back to their normal lives and trying to either hide their powers or live with them, but there being some personal hook that makes sense to bring them back into the action and out the normal lives they were trying to lead. For instance, I don't want Niki to die, but she and Micah could have being living their lives in Las Vegas, potentially even without DL if needed and then in S2 or S3, something happens to draw either Micah or Niki into action.

I'm probably beating a dead horse now, but the main thing is that I wish the writers would use the option of putting characters in the 'normal lives' bucket, so they can be potentially taken out later even if it's the next season, rather than having them all killed off.
Emmchen82
On the flip side, as much as I love Adrian Pasdar, keeping Nathan alive after his brother exploded in his arms and his own power is flight, makes no sense to me at all. I can completely see Peter surviving as Claire survived being burned alive and Peter can also heal, but Nathan?


Nathan's power is flight. And as has been shown previously in the show, he can fly pretty fast. To me, it's completely believable that he just took Peter, flew up really high, let go and flew away.
Or, am I missing something?
Guy
Pretty much, if they killed off any of the remaining females, I'd be pissed. I think they're all great. Monica, Claire, Molly, Niki, Maya, Angela... Oh, Sandra. If they killed off Sandra, I would be beyond upset. All hell would break loose. And that's in the literal sense. I mean, think of little Mr. Mugglessss-zzzz-zzzz. The two females I don't really care too much about are Yaeko and Caitlin. Their deaths may actually make things more interesting. Except, if Yaeko died, that would just be a repeat of Simone, what with having two boys all over her. And Caitlin - meh. She's nice and all, but kind of bland. I actually don't really know what her death would do for the show, except make Peter sad.

Same "hell break loose" if they go through with the painting and kill off Noah. Stay away from the Bennets. Except... you can take Lyle. Poor Lyle.

Keep the Petrellis, keep the Hawkins/Sanders/Dawsons, keep Parkman and Suresh.

... I wouldn't mind if they took off Ando. I mean, I like him enough, but I feel he's disposable. Same goes for West. And Hiro.

In conclusion:
Characters whose deaths wouldn't completely suck: Ando, Alejandro, Bob, Caitlin, Ricky, West, Hiro, Yaeko, Lyle.
Stay away from: everybody else.
Aunty Mib
Except... you can take Lyle. Poor Lyle.


I'm pretty much the opposite. If someone dies I want the death to be meaningful or shocking -unlike 3rd season Lost, where I had the feeling that they killed people no one cared about to give the feeling that the island was dangerous.

The deaths of Charlie, Eden, Isaac and Dale had gravitas that the deaths of Candace, Mr. Nakamura and the-gringo-who-stole-Claire's-car didn't. I'd have to see more of characters like Lyle and Bob for their deaths to be meaningful.
Guy
I'm pretty much the opposite. If someone dies I want the death to be meaningful or shocking.


It's not like I really want Lyle to die, just if the Bennets were put into a situation where one of them may not make it through (such as when Ted and Matt were keeping them hostage), it'd have to be him. Nothing against him personally, he's just... Lyle. He has stiff competition.
Shanti70
The Nathan plot would have had a lot more kick TO ME if we hadn't known that Peter is alive and shirtless in Cork. As it is, instead of watching Nathan mourn we just wait for Peter to get back to New York so his screen time will mean something.

Likewise, I would have preferred to not see Sylar until the Wondertwins almost run him over.


I agree with rowanceleste, some viewers won't watch if their favorite characters die. I know I would be hard-pressed to watch if either Peter or Nathan died. Leaving it to question would definitely create buzz, but might also cause some viewers to not tune in.

Most of the characters from last season are important to me. I am sad that DL is no longer on the show. With the exception of Monica, this year's new characters are dispensible.
binturite
I implore TPTB not to kill off the following folks, because I like 'em and wanna see more from them:

The Wonder Twins
Crazy Grits
Ando
Ma P.
Nathan
HRG and his Missus
MoMo
Micah
The Furball
bm232
I would actually hate it if Peter died. His current storyline isn't one of the better ones, I admit, but my dissatisfaction is with the storyline, not the character. So my, "Please don't kill them" list would be:

- Peter
- Actually, the Petrellis in general.
- HRG
- Micah
- Hiro
orange indigo
The two females I don't really care too much about are Yaeko and Caitlin. Their deaths may actually make things more interesting.


I actually hope one, or both, of them die. Even if it's repetative, its better than the sappy romances.

I don't want to see Sylar die, but that's inevitable, I guess. I really don't want Mohinder, Nathan, HRG or any of the females who aren't Maya, Yaeko or Caitlin to die.

I wouldn't mind the deaths of: Matt, The Wonder Twins, Bob, or, uhm... That's about it.
Maleficient
binturite, word on the Wonder Twins. My preference for all things Sylar is littered all over these forums, so I'll spare everyone, but my list is as follows:

-Monica
-Ando, who completely redeems the Hiro storyline (I actually am not all that fond of Hiro)
-Angela
-the chilluns
-HRG

Yeah, fine, Peter, even though I'm not that fond of his current storyline. A lot of the people on my list are there because of their utility to the story or because their personal character arcs don't feel complete to me, which isn't to say that I want them to die immediately after they've served their purpose to the show, though, or for that matter that I think everyone else should be killed off. It's just that I wouldn't stop watching the show if Kensei or Parkman died in a way that furthered the show's development.
rowanceleste
On the flip side, as much as I love Adrian Pasdar, keeping Nathan alive after his brother exploded in his arms and his own power is flight, makes no sense to me at all. I can completely see Peter surviving as Claire survived being burned alive and Peter can also heal, but Nathan?


Nathan's power is flight. And as has been shown previously in the show, he can fly pretty fast. To me, it's completely believable that he just took Peter, flew up really high, let go and flew away.
Or, am I missing something?


I think my issue with it is that I just can't believe Nathan would actually let go of his brother and fly away... As far as Nathan's aware, that could have been Peter's dying moment and I just don't see Nathan being all, 'I love you, but ...I have to save my own ass!' Bottom line, I just can't picture him leaving his brother, rather than being with Peter 'until the end'. Maybe this will be satisfactorily explained later, but right now I can't see Nathan putting his own life first.

As for those I'd be fine with if they died:

West, Lyle (sorry, Lyle!), Bob, Nightmare Man, Caitlyn, Will, Alejandro (although I'd rather he didn't die, Kensai (that ones hard as I love David Anders) and Kaeko.

Pretty much everyone else, I think I'd be crushed if they died, so the writers better have a damn good reason if they killed them...(btw, I also think it would be stupid of them to kill Nathan, because if they were going to do it, they should have done it in last year's finale, where his death would have at least made sense.)
Emmchen82
I think my issue with it is that I just can't believe Nathan would actually let go of his brother and fly away... As far as Nathan's aware, that could have been Peter's dying moment and I just don't see Nathan being all, 'I love you, but ...I have to save my own ass!' Bottom line, I just can't picture him leaving his brother, rather than being with Peter 'until the end'. Maybe this will be satisfactorily explained later, but right now I can't see Nathan putting his own life first.


But Nathan and Peter discussed this before, if Peter would survive "going nuclear". If he thought Peter would survive it - maybe he would also save himself? I dunno. I guess time will tell.
rowanceleste
But Nathan and Peter discussed this before, if Peter would survive "going nuclear". If he thought Peter would survive it - maybe he would also save himself? I dunno. I guess time will tell.


I'm sure they'll explain it because while I do picture Peter telling Nathan, 'Go! Save yourself'...but I also picture Nathan responding with 'I'm not leaving you!' Although...maybe that's what caused Nathan's drinking? In the end, instead of saying, 'I'm not going to leave you', he flew off and left his brother to explode, not that staying with Peter would have changed that...
Emmchen82
I'm sure they'll explain it because while I do picture Peter telling Nathan, 'Go! Save yourself'...but I also picture Nathan responding with 'I'm not leaving you!' Although...maybe that's what caused Nathan's drinking? In the end, instead of saying, 'I'm not going to leave you', he flew off and left his brother to explode, not that staying with Peter would have changed that...


That scenario makes sense to me. At this point I'm sort of hoping for an episode along the lines of "Six Months Ago".

About Yaeko, since she's part of history, they can't really just go "oopsie" and kill her off, can they? I suppose they could always say that that was the way history went, but if she's supposed to be Kensei's princess written down in legend, I would guess they had more time than a couple of weeks together?
mobiusklein
Maybe Pete was literally too hot and he reflexively let go. You really aren't thinking when letting go of a hot plate, for example, and I can't imagine it's easy to keep hold of a human-sized lump of red-hot coal equivalent. (I kid you not, nerve bundles en route to the brain make you let go before your brain feels the pain sensation) Or Peter could've squirmed his way out to save Nathan.

I don't think anybody should be free of the death pool but they should be cut out with a bit of dignity. Suburban exile to an OK place is also OK.
rowanceleste
Suburban exile to an OK place is also OK.

Yeah, I would have been fine with Niki and Micah happily ever after in surburbia with no Jessica and no money worries since Micah is smart enough not electronically steal from those that might kill them, etc. I'd actually have also been fine if Parkman and Molly had retired to suburbia as well, but I'm loving the House of M though and I'd hate to have missed the whole 'My Two Dads' thing. Hee.

I could even be okay with the hilarity of Sylar trying to hide in surburbia because there's someone in the Company that he knows is looking for him and can kill him if he doesn't stay under the radar. Of course, Sylar would have to move a lot when the neighbor's kept getting suspicious of amount of digging his did in his backyard at night and the randomly disappearances that start to happen. :)
Nonredhead
I love this thread!

I'd watch no matter what, but don't take my Petrelli boys away, but honestly I don't think he'd ever kill them. . And there is no way HRG will actually die. So for my may die choice...

Don't kill Angela, Tim!


(The Bennets have HRG and the Petrelli's Angela. Besides she needs to be around to dole out her secrets year after year!)

End of transmission.
GreenPhoenix
ITA, rowanceleste. Someone else mentioned that 24 had deaths to show the randomness of it; it's just as likely that people would randomly return to their normal lives, especially if they were working so hard for them in the first season.

As for deaths, I will accept any if they fit the plot well. However, my unhappiness would come from pairs: Ando/ Hiro and Peter/ Nathan. If any one of the pairs die, I'd be unhappy. Yet, I think I would be less unhappy if both in the pair died.
ibroketuesday
My do not kill list is currently:
-Sylar
-Mohinder
-Nathan
-Bennet
-Monica
-Kensei
-Claire (though if this West business goes on much longer, my opinion may change)

However, all of this is perfectly emotional. If any of these characters need to be sacrificed for the betterment of the show, I'll be heartbroken, but I'll accept it. Characters should not outlive their usefulness; if they begin to weigh down the story instead of helping it along (yes, Claire and Peter, I'm looking at you), then I believe they should be written out somehow.
Shanti70
I think my issue with it is that I just can't believe Nathan would actually let go of his brother and fly away... As far as Nathan's aware, that could have been Peter's dying moment and I just don't see Nathan being all, 'I love you, but ...I have to save my own ass!' Bottom line, I just can't picture him leaving his brother, rather than being with Peter 'until the end'. Maybe this will be satisfactorily explained later, but right now I can't see Nathan putting his own life first.


I'm thinking that Peter somehow gets ahold of his powers before he explodes and pushes Nathan away. He then either flies away or falls, and since he cannnot die, recovers from his fall. He either pushes Nathan away or tells him he is ok to be on his own and Nathan speedily flies away.
DizzyMissLiz
Did Peter ever meet Linderman? Because if so, he could've absorbed Linderman's healing abilities. OR, maybe Nathan has healing powers like Claire does. Somehow I think what he's seeing in the mirror is a memory.

The only characters I would be 100% cool with TPTB dropping are Caitlin & Co. and West, the former because Peter's Oirish Adventures are bugging/boring the crap out of me and the latter because he's an obnoxious, creepy, sinister little shit. I wouldn't shed many tears over the twins either, although I do want to see them interacting with Sylar more. I'd be at least a little upset about anyone else, even Niki [my least favorite of the original cast]... although the ones I'd be most hair-tearingly, writer-cursingly upset about are the Surwalkman family and Mr. Bennet. The House of M is my favorite domestic unit on TV, and Bennet... well, Bennet owns, plain and simple. Isaac's painting has me a little worried.
cpuffin
Do not kill Angela Petrelli.

That is all.
Bara
I think my issue with it is that I just can't believe Nathan would actually let go of his brother and fly away...


There are so many ways Nathan can survive without letting Peter go. Peter could have pushed him with a last minute TK. Or Peter begged Nathan to let him go. Or Peter actually has absorbed Linderman's power or some other healing power. Or Nathan actually has healing power that we didn't know about. Or, I think someone mentioned this before here: Peter made a deal with the company to save Nathan (which is very likely what happened. You don't just become a company operative without getting something big in return).

As for characters which Kring should not touch: I want him to stay away from Nathan and Peter. Although I'm not too worried about Peter because Kring essentially gave him a convenient DEM (deus ex machina) tool known as regeneration.

The rest, I can more or less deal with although I also love Niki and Ando (and Eden when she was still around - Eden was a cautionary tale as to why the writers shouldn't just go around killing characters because the replacement might not be as awesome as the original) and would love to see their character be fleshed out a bit more.

Characters which I dislike are: Claire (would love to see her killed off along with West), West, and Micah. I guess I'm just not that fond of children and teen characters.
Emmchen82
I wonder if there is anyone out there who likes the idea of them killing of Mr.Bennet? If he's a really popular character, that's probably the reason for them to show that painting. Keeps people watching. Which is fine, as long as HRG lives in the end.
berrieh
I wonder if there is anyone out there who likes the idea of them killing of Mr.Bennet? If he's a really popular character, that's probably the reason for them to show that painting. Keeps people watching. Which is fine, as long as HRG lives in the end.


I can't see how they kill HRG this way without making it a retcon. He was alive in 5 years, and that painting was painted before the bomb, so it's not something that changing the bomb would have changed. (Or if it did, it'd no longer be a viable prophesy... it wouldn't have changed it INTO prophecy at least.) So, I don't get it. The idea of HRG dying via painting makes me sad, but it also makes my head hurt because I can't see how it would be so.

I wish they'd "retire" some characters without killing them this season. I don't know why everyone has to die. For me, Eden was the only truly "satisfying"/well done death last season. I understand Isaac's death, as it was prophesied and helped make the bomb seem even more inevitable. Simone... well, I hated her, but I really see no point to her dying. It didn't feel like it had real emotional heft. They could have gotten rid of her some other way---via her leaving. I'm also hoping the "introducing people to kill them" of Season 1 is over. It had its purpose, but: no more.

I mean, I hate West, but I'm fine with him moving back to St. Louis or something. And I see no reason the Irish crew needs to die. Peter can just be on his merry way, and they can keep running the bar and stealing ipods.

I hope the deaths in S2 are more like Eden's... satisfying from a dramatic and character standpoint.
Emmchen82
I wish they'd "retire" some characters without killing them this season. I don't know why everyone has to die. For me, Eden was the only truly "satisfying"/well done death last season. I understand Isaac's death, as it was prophesied and helped make the bomb seem even more inevitable. Simone... well, I hated her, but I really see no point to her dying. It didn't feel like it had real emotional heft. They could have gotten rid of her some other way---via her leaving. I'm also hoping the "introducing people to kill them" of Season 1 is over. It had its purpose, but: no more.


I agree, there should be more ways of retiring characters then having them die, because there sure are in real life. Simone's death was sort of weird in S1, I thought. She could definately just have moved.

It's just...when you start killing people left and right, it sort of loses its impact. People just become "red shirts", who are introduced to die.
dxgarten
We were promised a show that was plot based instead of actor based.


I have no interest in that kind of show. After 1 season and 4 episodes, I find that it's the characters that make the series interesting not the plot itself. The plot is actually not that original and have been done many times in comic books/anime/manga, etc in much creative manner. It's the characters that make the series leap and bound because without them, there is nothing that would make me want to go back again and again. There's nothing to anchor me into the series. It'll be just a story about a bunch of stranger who happens to have power, like the 4400.

Now imagine if they start killing off the interesting characters and get stuck with the likes of Candace or West. It'd be a complete nightmare. Look, there are other series out there that manage to have the same characters over the span of 7-9 season without making the characters look boring. The fact that we have around 15 characters mean that it's impossible for the writers to actually run out of stories for each of them since each character only gets 2-3 minutes episode tops, that's assuming the character is actually in the episode.
marshmellow
The only two characters I would not want to see die are Sylar and HRG. The rest are expendable as far as I'm concerned -- not that I wouldn't miss the others, I just love said characters more than any other. Killing off Sylar in particular would hurt me deeply, heh. I pretty much believe karma (or Mo) will catch up with him one day but I want his character further explored until then.
Shanti70
The only two characters I would not want to see die are Sylar and HRG. The rest are expendable as far as I'm concerned -- not that I wouldn't miss the others, I just love said characters more than any other. Killing off Sylar in particular would hurt me deeply, heh. I pretty much believe karma (or Mo) will catch up with him one day but I want his character further explored until then.



I love me some ZQ, but Sylar can die anytime. He was a fascinating character last season and an excellent villain, but evil beyond redemption. I'm conflicted, however, as I love to watch ZQ act, but don't care that much for Sylar. Go figure.
Levitate This
I love me some ZQ, but Sylar can die anytime.


Yeah, I love Sylar and I think ZQ is fantastic as him but Sylar could die almost any time during the run of this show. For my own morbid but rational reasons, I think it should be at Mohinder's hands. Besides all the personal angsty history the idea of a multi-powered Sylar dying at the ends of someone who has none would be quite fitting (to me), particularly when you add in all that personal history.

I'm not saying I want Sylar dead now...I'm saying that at some point down the road I wouldn't be opposed to this happening.
Shadowen
From the perspective of a writer--I'm helping a friend with a TV concept of his--a writer cannot ever fall into the trap of saying, "This character is untouchable." Early on, they even figured out a way to show that not even Claire (and by later, by extension, Peter) was unkillable.

At the same time, a death cannot always be meaningless, any more than it can always be meaningful. There should be some point to most of the deaths in a dramatic show.

I personally hope DL isn't dead, and that he phases out of his coffin or something. In a sweet tux. That would rock. (I can't imagine him needing food or air if he was phased, so he might be laying low for a while.)

Also, though I have no idea if I like the character or not, I hope they don't kill Kristen Bell's character until at least season 3, because Veronica Mars needed at least one more season to have a good last hurrah. So there.
Aurilly
I really could do with a whole lot less Claire. I don’t necessarily need her to die. I just need her presence on the show to be lessened for awhile. I need for everyone not to be related to her. If they MUST keep her so prominent, I would much rather see a storyline where it’s just her and Nathan forced to bond, without Peter, without HRG.

Ones I want to go away for a few episodes: Claire, Peter and Hiro (but Kensei has to stay somehow---he’s one of my favourite characters now).

Ones I don’t mind dying: While ZQ is a great actor, I was ready for him to die awesomely last year. I wouldn’t mind Maya and Alejandro dying after they’ve served their purpose for this volume; they’re almost too tragic to live. I don’t care about Angela Petrelli. The new blond chick so far seems to smirk a lot, and since I have nothing invested in her, I’m putting her in this pool, with the caveat that she can come out if she ends up being enjoyable. Niki can die (I love Micah and prefer him with his fun cousin, or as a candidate for the House of M).

I would consider giving up the show if following died: The Muggles (HRG, Mohinder and Sandra). The show needs them desperately; especially now that they’ve perfected Mohinder, they are the most relatable characters, and I’d have a hard time becoming as attached to a new introduced Muggle. Mo and HRG tie the story together, and in my opinion, should do so until the end. Nathan is the only powered character on my list (probably because he usually acts like a Muggle); his character has season’s worth of layers to explore.

I know this will sound horrible, but I could get behind Molly dying. So much of the show revolves around HRG’s obsession with keeping his daughter safe. Since they’ll never get rid of Claire (unfortunately) it would be dramatically interesting to see how another obsessively protective, bad-ass foster-daddy reacts to failing. We’ve all been saying that Mohinder is like a little HRG in training. He’s got the brains and balls for that kind of storyline more than Matt does. However, I do like my sweet, optimistic Mohinder just the way he is. So I don’t know.
mobiusklein
Nobody should be safe but I do think you need non-powered people LIKE Ando, HRG, Mo so I'd say you need their type per se.
Loandbehold
I know this will sound horrible, but I could get behind Molly dying. So much of the show revolves around HRG’s obsession with keeping his daughter safe. Since they’ll never get rid of Claire (unfortunately) it would be dramatically interesting to see how another obsessively protective, bad-ass foster-daddy reacts to failing. We’ve all been saying that Mohinder is like a little HRG in training. He’s got the brains and balls for that kind of storyline more than Matt does. However, I do like my sweet, optimistic Mohinder just the way he is. So I don’t know.


I agree. Either Molly (to make Mohinder start taking names at OWI) or Micah (so AL can really sink her teeth into a juicy story line.

Characters not to kill: HRG (JC has just done so much w/ this role), Mohinder, Niki (if you can, you know, give her an actual compelling story), Nathan.

Characters that can go: Molly or Micah (can't kill too many kids, but one is OK), Sylar (great villain but served his purpose), Peter (flip side of Sylar).
Menouthis
Personally, I'm tired with the show's tendency to use 'death' as a crutch to proper storyline. It's like almost every episode now feature a dying person or something like that.

I want to see my favorite characters to get involved in long-lasting, interesting storyline. Not to get killed quickly just because the writers want to feature some new characters at every opportunity.
TWoP Dietrich
This thread is pretty much covering the same ground as the one about "How to screw up season 2", and it's not really about a character, so I'm closing it.
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