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Chloe (Allison Mack) learns that a doctor, Dr. Curtis Knox (Dean Cain), has been treating meteor-infected people and removing their abilities. Desperate to get rid of her powers, Chloe makes an appointment to see him, unaware that Dr. Knox has a nefarious plan to kill his patients and harvest their organs.

Meanwhile, Kara (Laura Vandervoort) cons Jimmy (Aaron Ashmore) into helping her locate her crystal and defies Clark's (Tom Welling) order to stay on the farm after she discovers its whereabouts. Lana (Kristin Kreuk) sets up secret surveillance of Lex (Michael Rosenbaum). Erica Durance and John Glover also star.

Rick Rosenthal directed the episode written by Al Septien & Turi Meyer
TWoP Mars
Talk about "Cure" here and only here if you see it a day early. Thanks!
Chlarkolate
Oh so much love for this episode!

Dean Cain is deliciously hot and deliciously evil. But he is underused. Really his role should be more epic than villain of the week. And they kind of hit you over the head with anvils. He’s basically there to foreshadow what it would be like for Clark to live indefinitely while those he loves ages and dies.
Love the pop culture reference to Jack the Ripper.

Wonderful Chlark in this epi!. Clark is devastated that Chloe won't remember him if she has the Cure.

The Chlimmy break up! Whoooo hoooo!!!! It happens very Clana like with Chloe playing the usual Clark role and Jimmy as Lana. Secrets!!!

Lana is devious; she actually lies to Clark's face within a day of telling Kara that the reason Clana never worked out before because of secreths and lieths. Also she is spying on Lex! I'm quite pleased actually!

There's Clex!!

There's so many anvils for Chloisers! It's heaven.

Too much Lana-love from Kara though. It's sickening.

Whoo hoo I posted first!
Durq
Thanks for the thread, Mars!

Dean Cain rocks my socks! So he is Vandal Savage, right? Dead-on perfect casting: charming, dangerous and able to throw history references around with conviction. Hope we get to see him again. He makes a good fight partner for TW and a debate partner for Lex. MR seemed to really enjoy their scenes.

Loved the Clex being detectives together! And we finally saw Lex get the scoop and carry treatment from Clark – long overdue. But Lex, you silly, never turn your back on a "dead" man in Smallville!

Loved Clark's line to Chloe: "You might forget me! You might forget me!" Aw. No comment on the Chloe/Jimmy break-up. AM & AA played the scene well but it wasn't terribly interesting to watch.

Anyone surprised that Clark and Lana are already having trust issues? No? Minimal Lana was good for this ep.: she works best as (a) an unfocused blur in the background of a more interesting scene and (b) a picture in a frame. And apart from waiting to see Lex take a shower on her spy-cam, she did, what, this episode? Arranged flowers and made pancakes. If they're giving her Martha's role, hopefully she's also getting Martha's screen time. (But you are missed, Annette O' Toole!)

The J'onn/Kara stuff is interesting and hopefully won't be dropped in favour of the Clana Angst-Go-Round. A great episode for Phil Morris. My J'onn-crush is increasing....

And hurrah for a canon gay character at the Planet! Hope we see him again :)
pyralis
Disclaimer - I never watched L&C and so the DC thing does very little for me.

Things I realized from “Cure”

Last week’s episode of Offscreenville must have been fabulous.
There was the Lana-Chloe re-union
Chloe came out to Lana as a meteor freak - but not Jimmy - why in god’s name not?
She’s figured out that she cured Lois and may possibly know how to repeat it.

And it’s DomesticDiva!Lana and EvilSpying!Lana, complete with appropriate costume changes.

And Kara may have been brainwashed by the Squirrel - good thing she’s getting away while there’s time. But dear, don’t ask Clark to make a thinking decision in a hurry, his brain just doesn’t work that fast.

MM - nothing like being cryptic dude

Knox - way better decor than Frankenstein’s lab and Sofia is perfectly groomed.
Is he trying out the Vincent Price evil scientist role - could we get him to do a re-make of Dr. Phibes Rises Again (it had the same plot). He’s either Vandal Savage or Capt. Jack Harkness

The horrendous pacing continues - who's editing this?
Chlarkolate
And hurrah for a canon gay character at the Planet! Hope we see him again :)


I know! I had to rewind cause I went "He said boyfriend, right?" I love when homosexuality is referenced but at the same time is nonchalant. The times they are a changing! Whoo hoo!

Geez, I'm awfully pumped after this epi.

I can see the end of Clana and a glimmer of Chlois on the horizon.

And no Obnoxious McEditor in this epi either!
SueB
Chlarkolate or Durq or pyralis or any other Canadian with a chlark heart, have pity. Please provide details on the Chlark (anything and everything would be just fine)....what happened at the end...how did they leave things.
Adela1985
Clark is devastated that Chloe won't remember him


Does he mention just himself here? Because it's interesting that it's him he's concerned she won't remember and not everybody. Not "you won't remember everybody or your life in Smallville" but "You won't remember me."
Chlarkolate
Chloe came out to Lana as a meteor freak -


I don't believe Chloe has told anyone but Clark she is a meteor freak. I think in the conversation between Clark and Lana about Dr. Knox and Chloe, Lana presumed that Chloe was going after a story. Clark, uncomfortably, let her continue to think that.

Does he mention just himself here? Because it's interesting that it's him he's concerned she won't remember and not everybody. Not "you won't remember everybody or your life in Smallville" but "You won't remember me."


He's certainly concerned about the procedure and the side effects/memory loss in general and in regards to her friends and family (it's brain surgery after all) but when the full impact of the memory loss hits him he is definitely upset. "Chloe, you might forget me. You might forget ME!" Sigh, throw in a kiss and it's everything a Chlarker could wish for.
PolarB
And apart from waiting to see Lex take a shower on her spy-cam, she did, what, this episode?

Lied right to Clark's face about the 10 million she stole? Divorce settlement my ass. I just can't believe this is going to ever be a happy relationship. Breakfast aside, they look miserable already. Lana's reaction to learning J'onn is from Mars was pretty damn funny, though.

Chloe was awesome, snarking with Knox on the gurney and is it just me, or is it posible finding out that her power's located in her heart might be the catalyst to changing her mind on her power? And when did she figure out what she can do, or is that just deductive reasoning from Lois?

The Jimmy stuff really slowed things down, though. Kara seemed mostly to be playing him, though there does seem to be some genuine interest on her part, but not as much as he has for her, or at least that's how I read it. The Chimmy break-up scene was just way too long.

Not as much Chlark as I would have liked, but yeah, Clark's "You're going to forget me." got to me. And boy, they're really driving home the immortality point to Clark, aren't they?

I thought the new Sasha did a fairly good job. She was reminiscent of Shonda Farr, but I could believe the differences were because she's 6 years older now.

The J'onn Kara stuff was interesting, and hey, at least we have a reason why Kara won't be around next week. She's off sulking. I would have liked Clark to ask questions about the whole Zor-El attempting to kill Jor-El revelation, though.

Ah, the Clex. Such tension and yet Clark still chooses Lex to save.

Chloe came out to Lana as a meteor freak - but not Jimmy - why in god’s name not?

I got the impression that she hadn't. Clark was very careful not to mention it to Lana, he specifically kept referring to Chloe's interest in Knox as part of a story, not because she was interested in the cure herself.

Oh, for those reading along, no, she doesn't get cured.

And how could I forget Knox? I thought DC was wonderful. Just the right amount of camp.
Liv06
IA, Chlarkoate about Lana knowing about Chloe. And a very big silence on Clark's part in regards to that - thankfully, he hasn't told her about that.
pyralis
You might be right - I'll have to watch tomorrow with that in mind.

Clark definitely said "You won't remember me".

The Chlark was somehow off. Chloe is still trying to handle things herself and not seek Clark's help. She goes seeking Knox out, even though she knows there is the chance her memory will be affected. He's chasing around after her to help. They're not working together.
SueB
They're not working together.


So it ends with a "yay you saved me" and nothing more? No.... you went thru with it anyway????

Waaaaa.
Liv06
Dean Cain is deliciously hot and deliciously evil. But he is underused. Really his role should be more epic than villain of the week.


EXACTLY! But, still deicilously evol!

I was so surpised at the Clex! Did anyone think Clark took a little extra care with Lex on the ground after hitting knox into that generator thingy? Well, he did in my head! Loveerly CHalrk in the middle IMO. Clark finally gets how *afraid* Chloe is about the power!

I thought the Lana scenes, lying about the divorce settlement and stuff was just like Lex's scene in Shanghai - obviously overdone, and best thing, Clark didn't believe it IMO. He didn't say anything, and we just got a hug where she thinks he believes her and we see him doubtful. Other thing is, Lex just helped him save his best friend without lying about it. And led hims straight to Knox.

And Kara may have been brainwashed by the Squirrel -


OMG. Thanks to that Rachael Ray Line, Kara is back to being Superbrat until she kicks Lana's ass.

The Chlark was somehow off. Chloe is still trying to handle things herself and not seek Clark's help. She goes seeking Knox out, even though she knows there is the chance her memory will be affected. He's chasing around after her to help. They're not working together.


I actually didn't mind that - it showed Chloe isn't Clark's personal search engine when she tells him she can't help him with the crystal search. Clark got a big wake-up call about the power, and he's now in the position of helping he with something and not the other way around. That scene in the apartment when he realized how desperately scared she was of the power and the "You'd forget me" line? I loved it. It's all about Clark being there for her, IMO.

Lana, IMO, is completely still into Lex in that last scene. It reminded me of Lex watching Chloe way back when in Progeny, only Lana went to a lot of trouble to keep this from Clark, and in the end, the expression on her face was she doesn't quite know why just yet, but she's still into Lex.
smiling sarah
He's certainly concerned about the procedure and the side effects/memory loss in general and in regards to her friends and family (it's brain surgery after all) but when the full impact of the memory loss hits him he is definitely upset. "Chloe, you might forget me. You might forget ME!" Sigh, throw in a kiss and it's everything a Chlarker could wish for.
How did Chloe respond to Clark's concerns? Was she touched by it at all?
Liv06
How did Chloe respond to Clark's concerns? Was she touched by it at all?


She was, IMO. She gave him one of those aww expressions, but here's the thing, she still wanted to do it. I loved that scene since it gave us such a desperate Chloe and such a wonderfully scared Clark for her.
smiling sarah
She was, IMO. She gave him one of those aww expressions, but here's the thing, she still wanted to do it. I loved that scene since it gave us such a desperate Chloe and such a wonderfully scared Clark for her.
Thank you, Liv06. Hmmm. Seems a bit strange that Chloe was determined to go through with it without taking a moment to discuss all the possible options with Clark or atleast talk about some other treatment.
PolarB
How did Chloe respond to Clark's concerns? Was she touched by it at all?

Definitely. She takes a minute before telling him people will be able to fill her in and then says he has to let her go if he wants to save her this time.

I think it's also interesting how when Knox is telling Chloe that she doesn't know anything about true love, she says there's someone she definitely wants to see again, but doesn't say who. Personally, I'm thinking it wasn't Jimmy.

I thought the Chlimmy break up was well done. I think this one might stick.

I think it might, too. Jimmy was pretty fed up and Chloe wasn't budging. With Kara around buttering him up, I suppose he could possibly use that to make Chloe jealous, but he gave her every chance to change her mind and she just wouldn't.
Chlarkolate
Ok, Chlark moments:

- Clark's distress at the thought of brain surgery and Chloe's potential memory loss. This is truly sweet and touching.
- He goes to the Planet to ask for help finding Kara's crystal but she sort of tells him off that she has more important things to worry about and basically the world doesn't revolve around him. She's on the edge cause she's flipping out about possibly having a cure for her infection. Clark realizes that something is bothering her and starts to investigate Dr. Knox in order to help Chloe.
- When Chloe begs for her life she tells Dr. K that there is someone she really needs to see/ talk to again (ie. someone she loves). She does not specify this as Jimmy or Clark however.
- Clark sees her in a bra again. She covers up ;(
- I know they didn't have a lot of scenes together but there was a lot of Chlark love (platonic or otherwise) because Clark was all about saving Chloe and protecting her secret in this epi. Even when they weren't in a scene together. Meanwhile, Clark and Lana are lying to each other.

Chlois anvils:
When Clark and Chloe are discussing memory loss as a side effect of the possible "cure", Chloe says it's worth giving up an old life if she has a new and better life to look forward to. Was this the only anvil? I can't remember but this is a heavy one.


I thought the Chlimmy break up was well done. I think this one might stick.
Liv06
Thank you, Liv06. Hmmm. Seems a bit strange that Chloe was determined to go through with it without taking a moment to discuss all the possible options with Clark or atleast talk about some other treatment.


Not really, to me anyway. She starts the episode scared stiff in the Talon and it carries on in different ways through the ep - through her convo with Clark, especially. This is her last hope as far as she's concerned. She knows she came close to dying when she healed EDLois and she still doesn't know how to control it so she's afraid it's going to happen again.

Also? EDLois is off chasing a DUI of the week in LA a la Lindsay Lohan/Britney. Want to bet it turns out to be the actress in Action?
pyralis
Liv I didn't mind it either. I thought that it showed how isolated Chloe is feeling from everyone. She's not letting Clark help and she knows how concerned he is about her (once she lets him know that she has her own worries). I thought that his concern was well expressed as was his trying to gather up clues from every source he could (Lana, Lex, Jimmy) to track her down.
Liv06
I think it's also interesting how when Knox is telling Chloe that she doesn't know anything about true love, she says there's someone she definitely wants to see again, but doesn't say who. Personally, I'm thinking it wasn't Jimmy.


Me either. No mention at all of Jimmy in that true love scene, just a someone.
Durq
SueB, I thought it was a great episode for both Chloe & Clark. He seemed to completely understand why Knox's cure would be such a tempting proposition for her. In the scene where they talk about it, Clark is so scared that she might not remember him (very nice acting by both Tom & Allison.) And I love Chloe getting the kryptonite out of Clark's range before she worries about putting her shirt on - attagirl! But the ending was all about Chloe & Jimmy and their ending so... no Chlark scene.

I was so surpised at the Clex! Did anyone think Clark took a little extra care with Lex on the ground after hitting knox into that generator thingy?

There were rescue pats! And Lex got scooped up and carried which makes me happy!

Lana, IMO, is completely still into Lex in that last scene.

Yeah, I thought that too.....which means when the next Clana break-up inevitably happens, guess who she'll ping-pong back to.....

Ah, the Clex. Such tension and yet Clark still chooses Lex to save.

And he also seemed to believe Lex about the theft of the money....very uncertain look on his face when Lana hugged him.
Adela1985
I thought the Chlimmy break up was well done. I think this one might stick.


From what I've read it seems very Clana 2.0. Chloe, like Clark in S5, refusing to tell something they love the truth about them, and said person saying they have enough of the relationship being like that.
Liv06
Liv I didn't mind it either. I thought that it showed how isolated Chloe is feeling from everyone. She's not letting Clark help and she knows how concerned he is about her (once she lets him know that she has her own worries). I thought that his concern was well expressed as was his trying to gather up clues from every source he could (Lana, Lex, Jimmy) to track her down.


That part was great, wasn't it? They totally emphasized how Chloe was isolated in this, and like Clark once did, she thought she was isolated from her best friend (Clark) as well. I loved Clark in rescue mode, storming into the DP. Better still - he worked with Lex in this. Anything that gives us those two onscreen without arguing over Lana is a wonderful episode, IMO.
Chlarkolate
Yes good investigative Clark in this epi.

I thought this episodes writing and editing was a big improvement over last week's and the premiere.
smiling sarah
There were rescue pats! And Lex got scooped up and carried which makes me happy!
Did Clark superspeed him to the hospital?

Also, thank you for the Chlark overview Liv06, Chlarkolate, Durq and Polar B.
atem
If Lana already did her own 'research' about Dr. Knox, wouldn't she already know about what he was doing to the patients?

I didn't see it. Was there some concern by Lana about Chloe? What did Lana and Clark talk about Chloe/Dr. Knox wise?

I forgot to add that I think Lana gave Chloe those 'classified' files Chloe was looking at in Bizarro and told her about Dr. Knox in the first place...
Liv06
If Lana already did her own 'research' about Dr. Knox, wouldn't she already know about what he was doing to the patients?


Well, if she actually did do research and didn't just get the info from Lex from the info she stole from him (which I think Lex mentioned to Clark) she didn't do it very well. Adds to the idea she's lying to Clark, IMO. And she doesn't know what Lex is telling him.

Was there some concern by Lana about Chloe?


No - she doesn't know Chloe has powers and that she wanted Knox to cure her. All her concern seemed to be for Chloe working 24/7 to impress Grant.

What did Lana and Clark talk about Chloe/Dr. Knox wise?


Just that she was researching Knox in order to try and help meteor freaks - bit heavy handed on how much she wants suddenly help meteor freaks, IMO.
PolarB
If Lana already did her own 'research' about Dr. Knox, wouldn't she already know about what he was doing to the patients?

I'm not really sure. She's supposedly all pro-meteor infected people and trying to help the ones that Lex has kept in 33.1 or something to that effect. At least, that's what she's told Clark. Whether that's true or not, who knows at this point, so it's possible that like she said, she'd just heard Knox's name from that research. However, Lex specifically told Clark that Lana had learned about Knox from the information she's taken from Lex, so it's also possible she knew more.

I didn't see it. Was there some concern by Lana about Chloe? What did Lana and Clark talk about Chloe/Dr. Knox wise?

Lana thinks Chloe's just doing a story, so she was more or less happy that Chloe might get a big break because of it. That's pretty much the extent of it.
Durq
Was there some concern by Lana about Chloe?

Yes, which was a nice surprise! Lana worries that Chloe will be hurt pursuing her story.

Did Clark superspeed him to the hospital?

Yes! Then when Lex woke up, there was some bitching, then later a bit of Clexy detection: hurray!
Liv06
Did Clark superspeed him to the hospital?


Guess so, next scene was of Lex and Clark in the hospital, I think.
Chlarkolate
From what I've read it seems very Clana 2.0. Chloe, like Clark in S5, refusing to tell something they love the truth about them, and said person saying they have enough of the relationship being like that.


It was very Clana 2.0 but I'm still hoping it will stick. Even if Chloe decides to try and get Jimmy back and tells him her secret, she'll never be able to tell him about Clark and Kara and that might stick in his craw a bit. I think her closeness with Clark still bothers Jimmy a wee bit. They didn't fight about that exactly but he throws it in her face when he thinks that she's upset about Kara and him bonding.

Also, I liked that Kara calls him James.
aqgalaxy
A quick question... is her power used at all in this episode or do we know anymore about it other then it's in her heart.
Storm45
Is there an explanation of why Lex wanted to cure the meteor freaks? Also does he knows that Chloe went to Dr.Knox?
Liv06
A quick question... is her power used at all in this episode or do we know anymore about it other then it's in her heart.


Nope and we don't get a damn thing more. Would have been the perfect place to say something, you'd think.

Is there an explanation of why Lex wanted to cure the meteor freaks? Also does he knows that Chloe went to Dr.Knox?


Lex wanted the freaks robbed of their memories, and their powers - to safeguard himself, I guess. He seems to be trying to get rid, or change 33.1, maybe? I dunno. Or get rid of his current gallery of freaks at any rate. I don't think he knows that Chloe is a freak, does he? Clark was lying all over the place that it was her story for the DP.
PolarB
A quick question... is her power used at all in this episode or do we know anymore about it other then it's in her heart.

It's not used and Chloe seems to know she can heal people - she offers to heal Knox's wife to start off with, but she's not sick, he's just trying to make her immortal so he won't have to lose her. That's about all that's said about it.

I don't think he knows that Chloe is a freak, does he? Clark was lying all over the place that it was her story for the DP.

Well, he already knows Chloe's meteor infected, but I don't think he knows her power has activated. And yes, I think Clark maintains she's researching a story.
Chlarkolate
No she doesn't use her power again but I think she offers to try and help Dr. Knox's lady love. You know, as bargaining her way out of getting killed.

Knox tells her the power is in her heart, but this is before he attacks her. Presumably he is telling the truth because he tries to cut her heart out.

By the way, Dean Cain does a PSA for the Christopher and Dana Reeve Foundation after the epi.
atem
Lex wanted to pretty much stop Level 33.1 and clear his consious? Lex didn't know about Chloe that I know of...

Lex knows she has 'powers', but he doesn't know what her 'powers' are. I don't think.

I think Lana gave Chloe those 'classified' files. Lana lied to Clark about not knowing.
SueB
Durq! You rock. I may have to sing O' Canada for all the goodies in this thread tonight. You've all been very generous with the details that matter!

I'm really intrigued by the Lana spying on Lex in the shower?? WTF? Exactly what is her rationale for that? How is watching Lex in the shower protecting Clark? Even he can't buy that one. I'm also truly relieved that we didn't lose the scheming Lana plot. The Action spoilers still fit flow and wont be out of left field.
Chlarkolate
Clark and Lex work together to stop Knox and save Chloe, but Clark doesn't tell Lex that Chloe is meteor infected. And of course Lex doesn't ask because he already knows as we've seen in Progeny and Freak, right?
Liv06
I'm really intrigued by the Lana spying on Lex in the shower??


What? When did that happen? He was at his desk, I thought.

nd of course Lex doesn't ask because he already knows as we've seen in Progeny and Freak, right?


Wonder if he's going to use that at just the right time with Dark!Lana?
PolarB
I'm really intrigued by the Lana spying on Lex in the shower?? WTF? Exactly what is her rationale for that? How is watching Lex in the shower protecting Clark? Even he can't buy that one.

He was in his office, but Lana apparently has cameras all over the mansion and she's rented an apartment in Metropolis where she can sit and watch it all a la the movie Sliver. To what end, we don't know yet.
atem
There isn't a 'shower scene'. He's at his desk. I think someone said it should have been one!
Chlarkolate
Lana has spent Lex's money on setting up an office in Metropolis where she has an A/V control room there are a dozen monitors all showing rotating views of rooms at the mansion, and I think maybe Luthercorp too. The shower comment was a joke. One of the views she can see what Lex sees on his computer.

Which reminds me, depending on what info she stole from Lex, she may know what Lex knows about Chloe's meteor freak status.
Liv06
He was in his office, but Lana apparently has cameras all over the mansion and she's rented an apartment in Metropolis where she can sit and watch it all a la Sliver.


didn't she walk past a garish pink something? i thought she was renting the back of an abandoned store or something?
Storm45
I don't think he knows that Chloe is a freak, does he? Clark was lying all over the place that it was her story for the DP.


I thought that he knew since ''Freak''. Each freaks were kidnapped and being experimented on and Lex saw that Chloe was one of them in the end of the episode. He was viewing the vid, called her a ''test subject'' and told his men to keep on eye on her. And he knows her mother is also a freak.
myankskent
He was in his office, but Lana apparently has cameras all over the mansion and she's rented an apartment in Metropolis where she can sit and watch it all a la the movie Sliver. To what end, we don't know yet.


So I'm assuming that this is what the 10 million is being put toward? They better be HD cameras.
Chlarkolate
It was a pink sign that said ISIS something. Maybe ISIS Fashions but not sure. Could this be a front? Or maybe just a sign that was taken down? Me thinks it's going to be a front.
Liv06
It was a pink sign that said ISIS something. Maybe ISIS Fashions but not sure. Could this be a front? Or maybe just a sign that was taken down? Me thinks it's going to be a front.


That's right! It totally was. I just thought it run down and very dark. Nice way to foreshadow she's not all perfect anymore.
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