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So the message from this very special episode featuring the return cameo of Rory Cochrane after 3+ years? Credit card debt is bad.... Credit card companies are bad.... people with brain injuries shouldn't fall behind on their meds?

I gotta admit my first thought at the end of the episode was that it was Wolfe instead of Cooper defrauding Speedle's account.... but um why would the card even be active in any way three years after his death?

Oh and bravo! ... the return of the cleavage of justice!

Wow, someone at a credit card company reeeeeeeeeeeally pissed off the writers.

Ah, I guess that's that for Cooper. Yeah, it's tacky, but I don't see the big deal, other than it's really tacky to spend a dead guy's money. But maybe that's because I didn't like Speedle.

Speaking of Speedle, what a waste of the actor.

The best part of the episode was Speedle. Why oh why did they have to kill him off in the first place?

It was ridiculous that his accounts wouldn't have been closed soon after his death. I've always hated Cooper though, so I can kind of overlook this because it gave me Speedle and got rid of Cooper.

Calleigh's TOJ's were quite impressive, even though Orangina tried to outdo her by wearing a sheer shirt with no bra.

I couldn't tell if Alexxxx hates Wolfe or misses him. Either way, I like how desperate Wolfe is becoming. By why did they have to drag the whole credit card debt storyline into every aspect of the episode? We get it--credit cards are evil, teenagers are evil, etc.

I loved how all Delko needs is some medication and voila! he'll be healed. But Ho knew this all along. Poor Delko, he wasted all that money on a doctor's visit when he could have just asked Dr. HoCaine what was wrong with him.

I found it hard to believe that the college kid somehow managed to not be incapacitated by the carbon monoxide, but also escaped a fully engulfed vehicle which he sat in for what seemed like an impossibly long time.

I actually liked this episode. For once, I didn't have everything figured out ahead of time. Plus, they had Speedle back... and made me cry over losing him all over again.

So did anyone else think that the actor that played Speedle came back because he was having a problem with credit card debt?



Did anyone notice that the story lines included the credit card murder/suicide, the mystery of Speedle's card, and Wolfe saying to Alexx that he can no longer live off his credit cards? Nice tying everything together CSI: Extra Crispy

That said this was the most painful episode to watch. It was terrible and just embarrassingly bad. And that's saying a lot coming from me because I like bad tv. At first I thought that either Speedle was Delko's new spirit guide or Delko in his brain damage delirium had developed a split personality that was Speedle and started using his credit card.


At first I thought that someone stole Speedle's social security number and got a new card. That the old card become active was kind of silly. What Cooper did though is fraud since he stole $200 from Speedle's heirs and an additional $2100 from the bank. Do you really think that he would have paid on a dead guy's account?

Lastly, those two crazy mixed up kids that were the focus of the investigation should have both died and been eliminated from the gene pool. How could some lowly middle manager at a bank lower your debt by sleeping with him? She is better off trying to be an upscale hooker. And the boy was even worse by blaming the bank for already killing him. Have these people ever heard of bankruptcy or personal responsibility? And how does shooting the middle manager help anything other than avenging his girlfriend's "honor"?

And I could have done without the pretty people soft core porn at the beginning.

When Alexx told Horatio that Jessica's skin color was due to carbon monoxide poisoning my first thought was, someone's been trying to off Natalia for 2 years and she won't go down! At this point it's the only thing that would explain the orangeness. Also, thank God this episode wasn't in 3D or else one of her nipples would've poked my eye out.

Poor Delko. He's this show's rag doll. He loses his friend, he loses his sister, he loses his girl, he's Horatio's brother in law... can something go right in his life?

I'm enjoying watching Ho Jr. beg for a job, but at this point it seems so unbelievable. Did I hear him say he's desperate because he lives in a nice house? I was out of the room, so I didn't quite catch that. If that's the reason, then he's an idiot. Just move the hell out, find a nice apartment, and learn to manage your expenses. It's not rocket science.

Calleigh was quite insensitive in the Hummer to Delko when she brought up her relationship with Jake. Like, Delko's life doesn't revolve around you, Calleigh. And tell your boyfriend to drop the damn vests. But she redeemed herself later when she went off on Cooper for hurting Delko. This storyline is going at snail pace. They're gonna be like 87 when they finally hook up.

Is it weird that I never felt the Speedle/Delko HoYay before but I totally felt it tonight? And Rory looked so good. Must feel nice knowing you can be on CSI: Miami but then go home at the end of the day and not have to return ever.

I can't believe the Miami lab just keeps hiring idiots after idiots. Ho Jr, Natalia, Cooper, Valera... it's like each one is as incompetent as the last, and they're lead by a man who wouldn't bend over to pick up a piece of evidence if his life depended on it. Here's a premise: lose Horatio, lose Ryan and Natalia, and the whole show is about Speed's ghost helping Delko and Calleigh solve crimes. Hell yeah, I'd Tivo that shit.

“We were gonna, you know, have sex.” HA!

I had to rewind to make sure, but, yeah, I loved the part where Keith, the sleazy credit manager, walks up and tries to smooth talk Callie into applying for a credit card...while her GUN and BADGE are totally, clearly visible.

"Where's Ryan?" continues...this week, in the ME's office! Will Alexx magically find money in her budget to hire him next week? And will we have to start calling him Ryann?

I did like the "human element" we got from the Delko/Speedle storyline...Delko missing his friend was kind of sweet. I liked his reaction in the bar when he discovered Cooper. I miss Speed!

I know that this show regularly strains credibility (and sometimes the laws of physics), but, honestly, the debt-ridden kid was able to shoot the credit manager in the middle of his forehead, in a crowd, from a boat, with burns so bad he was supposed to have been hospitalized? Why was he in debt when he clearly could have been making a fortune as a sniper?!



ITA with that! They're really kind of...distracting.

How will she do that? Doesn't she have to report to the Head of the ME's department. "Finding" funds and hiring people is part of the Head od Department's job description. or is Alexx getting HoCaine like powers that sets her above everyone and everything???



Another marker that HoCaine might be (a gay) in the closet?

Once again, I watched this show while doing other things (otherwise it kills too many brain cells), but was that seriously supposed to be the girl's dorm room? Whatever happened to dorm rooms being the size of a shoebox and constructed out of cinderblocks? What is WITH this show and the obsession with glass?

I couldn't stop laughing at the burned kid's PSA about credit card companies. They charge interest! It adds up! And ruins your life! Don't misuse credit, viewers! Remember, the writers think you are idiots!

And why is it everyone on these shows wants to be a CSI? Isn't anyone happy being a lab tech?

The glamour of not having to wear a lab coat over their cleavage. Or after all these years of working with HoCaine they are hoping that being out in the field means they could go the way of Speedle.

Then again I always thought till I started watching this show that being a CSI and lab tech was nearly synonymous. Silly me.

WTF!?!?

OK, I do loves the Speed, so I put aside my usual trepidation and turn on HoCaine's Magical Piece-o-Crap. And what do I get?

CSI: Ghost Whisperer.

Really, is there no depth the writers for this drek will not plumb in their never ending struggle to put together something...anything for Caruso to mouth while he "emots?" What's next? Caine's evil twin? Wait a mintue, that explains a lot....

Super-sniper, Calleigh's search for a good coffemaker, Wolf's job search... God, will this crap never end?

Burn Boy's putting on his clothes without screaming in pain, then walking out of the hospital unnoticed, set my wife off. As she put it, "The nurses didn't notice this Elephant Man-looking dumbass gimping his way out of the hospital?" But at least we know that that the kid spent some of his $41K in credit card charges on a sniper rifle. (Incidentally, does anyone know anything about guns? Calleigh described it as a .30-.06 rifle; could you make such a long-distance shot with a caliber like that?)



I caught that too, and I think I now have a grand unified theory about why everyone on the show is a moron. They're unable to focus on anything because they're too worried about their property taxes, which are obviously sky-high to cover the cost of CSI Hummers, multi-million dollar evidence labs, and loft-style single occupancy dorm rooms at the local college that would go for $500K+ if sold as condos.

I, too, was hoping this show would become Touched by a Speedle, which would be so cool. The next logical step would be to add vampires. But, alas, it is not to be. Yet.

Edited for the correct spelling of Calleigh's name. Don't ask me to even try spelling her last one.

It is DUQUESNE.....

The Hocaine/Eric/Speedle scene at Speedles grave. I don't know HoCaine looked so much in the closet in this one (if you get my drift). I was waiting for HoCaine to hug Eric and pat him on his backside.

Someone had to take over for Speedle. Prior to his death, I always felt like Speedle was the show's designated angsty whipping boy.



Same here. Where Speedle is concerned, I've only ever gotten the HoYay vibes between him and Tyler the A/V guy and with Bernstein the detective. So it was pretty surprising that last night I was all about Speedle/Delko.

Erie42 asked:


Oh yes!!!

I read somewhere that the terms of his removal from CSI (at his request) was that he could NOT appear on any other tv show til 2008!!! so yeah, maybe it had something to do with his credit card debt. LOL

Let me go find the link to this article.

ETA: Here is the article about Rory (Speedle)

Rory Cochrane was required to appear in the episode.

http://www.csifiles.com/news/161007_01.shtml



He's still technically under contract.

I loved Speed and I was sad that they killed him off seasons ago. I didn't know about that deal but it makes sense if making a TV show was his reason for being written out. What I read (which I thought was plausible) was that he didn't like working with David Caruso.

But as I said I loved Speed so anything to see him on my TV is a good thing, even if it's CSI MIami.

So who cut the brake line????????

Now we can wait for the episode where the big bad defense lawyer gets Delko's evidence thrown out because he has hallucinations. Oh wait, they did that already... but that was before he started seeing dead people.


And if he can make that shot, why did the first two shots miss so badly?

Or fair credit collection laws? I'm pretty sure most of the things the credit company threatened were bluffs (or illegal). For instance, they can't go after your relatives if they're not co-signers. And I don't think they're allowed to threaten to do things they can't do, at least not when the cops can hear them.

They originally thought it was a murder, but how would you murder two conscious people in a car with carbon monoxide? You would have to get in the car, open a window enough to stick a hose in it, and then start the car, because they probably wouldn't have left it running.

I don’t know about the actor, but I think that Delko wasn’t hallucinating and Speedle came back from the dead because he was so upset that Cooper wrecked his credit rating.



This made me laugh. And if someone is trying to off Natalia, please, please keep trying.



Does Alexx’s morgue count? Because she hired that guy Glenn who was drinking on the job and then got killed while driving drunk.



I don’t think his eyes got that far down.



That’s “CSI Duquesne.” Followed by someone smirking.



What about The Company, which aired this year? Could Rory Cochrane appear in The Company because that wasn’t a weekly series?

So, Delko sees dead people now?

Of course, if I had a head injury and went around seeing dead Speedle, I don't think I'd complain much. RC looked good last night and I enjoyed all of his smirks way too much (in my mind, he was smirking over the fact that he isn't on this craptacular show anymore).

Bwah!

Ok so I haven't watched this show on a regular basis for some time but I did know that Speedle died a few years ago. I kept wondering why they were showing an old episode on prime time. Now I know why.
With all the credit card storylines going I felt like I was watching a 7th Heaven episode. Credit cards are bad! BAD!!!
Oh and what kind of CSI needs a lab to tell him that it was brake fluid pooled under the car, and if that's what started the fire, why was there a pool of it left to analyze? For that matter as someone who has owned cars that leaked copious amounts of various fluids, how legitimate is it that something like that would start a car on fire.........?

But the doctor gave him those pills that magically regrow brain matter. He'll be fine.



So does Alexx, for that matter. But KA is cool, so she can stay.

That was just not good. I thought we were going to get some elaborate story about faking Speedle's death like with Horatio's brother. But no. Just a hallucination induced by Delko's bullet fragments.
Plus, I have literally no sympathy for college students who rack up huge amounts of credit card debt. I mean, they increased my limit, so I figured it was okay to buy more stuff? And, seriously, payments are usually really low, so you should be able to at least make minimums, even if you would be paying until you're 60 by paying minimums. Who thinks it's okay to charge $40,000+ worth of stuff when they're a college student? Plus, I'm sure the company would have gotten in trouble long before this based on the calls they were making. (Didn't one of them call the girl a tramp? And then they called a potential employer and ratted her out, when her getting a job would increase their chances of getting paid??)
Plus, gotta love college girls who sleep with a manager to lower their debt. That seems like a really good solution.

It must be tough to block out your scenes after Caruso has chewed up all the scenery.

Or he finally had the epiphany--"Hey, wait a minute. This show is set in one of the hottest cities in the USA, and this douchebag wears nothing but black. I'm out."

Well, that answers my question from 2 weeks ago about what happened to Brendan Fehrs character. He's being "Speedled".

I'd actually get a Tivo to record it. Is anyone listening? Beuller? oh yeah, Ann Donahue has got the hots for Caruso. *sigh*

Me too. In a heartbeat. Alexxx could stay too; since she's the Corpse Whisperer I'm sure she'll be able to see Speedle's ghost.

When they did the 70s-tastic split screen over the shootout, I was thinking "This show is so bad." Then, when Calleigh and Eric were re-enacting the shooting with themselves in the background, I was thinking "Okay, the writers/producers REALIZE that their show is a steaming pile of crap, and are camping it up on purpose!" Then I got all excited, because hey, if we've given up all pretense of realism/good drama, what's to stop them from resurrecting Speed with no explanation whatsoever? Sadly, it was not to be.

But hey! Delko's dr. conveniently told him that the hallucinations could periodically recur as long as the bullet fragment is in there! Who wants to bet the hallucinations return just in time for sweeps?


...don't forget the 20 mph wind that altered the bullet's trajectory 5 minute-angles (whatever). He may have had a near-death experience, but he can still do trigonometry in his head!


Not only that, she called her a tramp on an answering message. As in, she knew she was being recorded when she said that. Idiots.

In a similar vein, can it POSSIBLY be legal to give out beer bongs as an introductory gift to underage kids? It's not even like the company can claim "We don't know what the kids are going to use it for!" when the rep pats the kid on the shoulder and says "Now that you have our credit card, go buy yourself some beer!"

I would totally watch that show.

And, yes, I think there would be some liability involved in giving away beer bongs to minors, aside from the bad PR.

How did Speedle's old credit card end up in Delko's car?

Would Cooper really be dumb enough to stash it there, of all places? Where it was likely to be found by someone who knew Speedle?

The lab's hiring standards must have really gone downhill since the first season.

I miss Speedle. *sniffle*

Oh yeah! See, it's sweeps and Eric will be sitting there, whimpering, as the defense hammers him about seeing dead people, with HoCaine sitting behind the DA, doing the Twitch of Justice (because he feels so much for Eric, his closest undead relative), when suddenly the court room door flies open and in floats Speed! [cue the angelic music] The courtroom gasps in disbelief.... (sorry, after that it all breaks down into an all singing, all dancing CSI:Extra Crispy with songs like "Who Ya Gonna Call? Ghost Speedle!")

God, I have to get off the coffee.

New poster in this thread. Why do I watch this crap? Anyway, maybe I nitpick too much, but why was Speedle's locker still labeled and full of his stuff three years after his death? Is it a shrine to him or something? Do they leave it there to tell the others "you too can escaped HoCaine"? And I loved the loving closeup on his gun kit as Delko opened it to go through his stuff. Nice one show.

Gosh, those Credit Card companies don't even stop when you're DEAD. They must be EEeeeevil
And allow Valera to be competent at her job again. Make her the pre-CSI Greg with the music in the lab and the snappy text messages that no one else understands...
That was my thought, too. I realized he fired the first couple of bullets so everyone would get down and he'd have a clear shot, but how did he know the CC manager guy wouldn't also take a dive at the same time?

What does it say about the actors on this show when RC has, maybe, three lines and a bunch of scenes looking off into the sunset and still manages to blow the others out of the water?

That he is a FAR BETTER ACTOR than the rest of the cast?

I had to pause only 5 minutes into the show to ask WTF?

The first scene after the opening scene/credits is Horatio standing near the now burnt up SUV. Dead girl is laying right next to it in the sand. Callie's detective dude is talking with Horatio. There is one firefighter in the forground, and unless he drove the firetruck and put out the fire single handedly, there are more standing about.

But only Horatio notices the drag marks and walks six feet six feet, people to peer over the edge to see the guy in the water. None of the firefighters or other rescue personnel got a glipmse of the dude?

And I'll join in on the implausability of same dude with burned skin and chard lungs playing sniper. Where did he get clothing to walk out of the hospital? His was burnt. Plus he would have had to remove the IV and heart monitor thingy. The nurses didn't notice?

Puleese. But I keep watching. Most bloopers and plot holes go right over my head. I can fanwink most anything (Prison Break anyone?) but this show makes spotting such things so EASY.

Who wears high heels in the sand to a crime scene? She's lucky she doesn't twist an ankle.

I was watching an episode of 48 Hours Mystery the other day and they were showing crime scene footage that had the actual CSI people in it. They were wearing - get this - hairnets, gloves, shoe covers and paper-style smoks over their street clothes. Wow. Compared to Callie and camp, these people were dressed for biohazard recovery.

What I didn't understand was why Speedle's wallet was still in his locker after three years. Wouldn't they have given it to his next of kin along with his other personal effects?

And I thought it was creepy how Horatio came looming out of the darkness during that scene. If I had been Delko, I'd have jumped nine feet in the air.

Not to mention that any ME never ever would allow anyone to enter the morgue without protective gear - left alone cut the bodies open the way Alexx does....

Carusobot never betrayed any emotion - not even at the graveyard scene. Just the old same flat non-descript facial expression he wears since six years.

With a steady platform and good conditions, it'd be a piece of cake. On a boat, with high wind, fired by a dude with mondo burns? I don't think so. And nobody noticed the burnt kid bringing a rifle onto the ferry and then going onto a closed, off limits, deck? Even for this show, that boggles the mind.

I was appalled at Cooper going from his poor-man's "Liam the lab tech" puppy-dog role to being so jealous as to steal from a dead colleague in one easy step. That made no sense to me, except to sack him so that Ryan (HoJu) Wolfe can take his place. That was pure character assassination.

And what was with that tech calling Calleigh CSI Duquesne all the time? I've never heard any of the characters called that within the lab. Or was it just to spur Cooper on to greater heights of jealousy?

Why, oh why do I keep watching? Was it worth it for 5 minutes of Speed? I'm still trying to decide!
Horatio makes me crazy with his constant sneaking around. And Calleigh with the heels in the sand. Now that's practical.

At least Speedle gave the show the much needed ratings boost.

I hope that Speedle will show up again. Delko seems pretty lonely, he could use a friend.



Yes it was. The snark value of Horatio alone is worth watching, but that of course is my opinion.

You're right NoDakGirl. But I still think I might be a little crazy sometimes!

There's always room on the train for one more! ;)