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Firecat
"Horatio's son disappears after taking part in a deadly prison escape."

So, as far as I can tell, everyone in Miami is a complete moron - criminal announces he'll give 2 million dollars to whoever breaks him out and people believe him. And then he actually gives heroin in payment? What kind of pansy ass criminal actually follows through on that kind of wild promise instead of just laughing at or killing the random citizen who broke them out?

The ever increasing incompetance of Ryan is totally making this horror show of a season entertaining.
Miss Granger
I think they referenced it in the opening, but I was laughing too hard and missed it. What movie/show is the $2 million a rip-off from. It is making me insane.
Blazemom
This show is very educational. Here is what I have learned about Miami from watching CSI Miami:

1) When criminals are taken from court in Miami, crowds of people stand outside and cheer for them while they offer rewards for breaking them loose, and TV stations broadcast it all over the city.

2) The charter bus used to transport prisoners has no guards on board, only a driver; however, at Horatio’s request Frank will abandon his duties and hop on board.

3) People in Miami are willing to help criminals escape for $2 million dollars.

4) Payment for services in Miami is made in tiny plastic bags of heroin, which apparently is legal currency.

5) Experts hired by the defense team have complete access to the crime lab, all evidence, and the CSIs apparently have to do everything they ask.

6) Escaped criminals have an information network that allows them to find out about Horatio’s son before anyone else knows.

This show has become such a parody of itself that it fits perfectly with the rest of the comedy shows on Monday night!
Erie42
I really do like Frank, but he needs to quit being HoCaine's lapdog. Also, he clearly had a concussion and thought he shot a girl and he is still at work. What the hell? If there was ever a day to take off that was it.

Did anyone else notice that Calleigh's yellow shirt and eyeshadow matched at the beginning of the episode? Not a good look for anyone. Also, Agent Orange when talking to the prosecutor looked particularly busted in the face. Or maybe she didn't get botox in an effort to look like she was acting. And why did Delko not show up till the half hour mark and all he got to do was help HoCaine threaten the inmate? And that was very laughable that the allusion to what happened in Brazil made the guy crack. And now HoCaine has authority over the Florida department of corrections? I was surprised that he didn't convince the prosecutor to drop all charges against his son right there.

Ryan is an idiot. He is trying to get back on the police force and last week he got protection work from them. It is a good start. Now he goes and shoots himself in the foot by getting a job with the defense. Wouldn't that not help him very much? Isn't he just better off working a couple different jobs? And isn't this the second time Agent Orange screwed up? Didn't she tell some kid that they would convict his stepdad so the kid shot him or something? And Calleigh had to fix everything up for her. Sigh. They really need to get rid of her.
noahsotherwife
Wolfe and Orangina are an incompetent match made in heaven. He's a pompous ass who screws up every job he does and she's an idiot who flaunts her hideous implants, leaves work in the middle of the day to shoot guns (poorly), and leaves unbagged evidence in the front seat of the HoJ.

I hope HoCaine tipped the hairdresser well. After all, he did bring an escapee in, even if the haircut was not too impressive.

I was waiting for another rocket to come shooting through the glass courtroom. Why is everything in Miami constructed of glass? Why are prisoners transported in shiny Greyhound buses? The amount of money wasted here is ridiculous. Where are the pissed off taxpayers?

It was nice to see that Calleigh's makeup gun was set to tasteful this week, instead of the usual whore setting.

The best part of the episode was the preview for next week. SPEEDLE! YAY!
SparkleStick
"This might sound weird, but if I go to jail, I want you to walk me in."

In other words, "I feel such a strong, deep connection to you...I don't know why, but it's totally there!" Spectacular.

5) Experts hired by the defense team have complete access to the crime lab, all evidence, and the CSIs apparently have to do everything they ask.


That killed me! Ugh. Ryan needs to either be on the show or not be on it. It's ridiculous that he happens to be connected to every crime the CSI's are working. And the smugness!! "If he's guilty, he's guilty, OK?!" I think this brings the list to firing range instructor, bodyguard, and expert witness. What will be next?!

2) The charter bus used to transport prisoners has no guards on board, only a driver; however, at Horatio’s request Frank will abandon his duties and hop on board.


Exactly what I said. Also, I liked how Kyle was placed in with the most violent adult offenders. I know he is being tried as an adult (whatever), but still.

Speaking of Calleigh, she was covered up! But the yellow on yellow combo...no. Not quite as insane as Natalia's white crocheted sweater that she wore to collect evidence at a crime scene. As they do, of course...who wouldn't wear white to dig through blood and paint and dirt on their hands and knees?

Speaking of Alexx, her corpse fetish is really creeping me out. The way she was stroking the dead deaf girl's hair while chatting with Calleigh...ewwww.

Did anyone else think HoCaine was going to make Kyle get a haircut exactly like his? LOL! Loved him watching over Kyle at the prison yard with the burning sun setting behind him...dramatic!
Kaijin
I expect Ryan will be the victim of a crime soon. I mean, he has been every other aspect. Suspect, witness, not very good protection. However bad and annoying he is, I will take him over any scene with horatio any day.

OH HAHAHAAH Horatio got his kids hair cut so he would look more badass and wouldn't become someone's bitch (can I say that?). HAHAH because that kid that have a "Hi, I am not really a tough guy, just really stupid look."

Now not only does every law enforcement official listen to Horatio but apparantly so does every criminal in jail. Don't mess with the dumb wonder that is Horatio's son.
javalake
The Miami crime lab has just set the world speed record for DNA analysis when they were analyzing the skin from the gun. I timed it and there was less than 25 seconds from the time Agent Orange added the solvent to the sample to the time Calleigh announced the results. It was all done in the time it took for Wolfe to make his speech. (In fact, I never did see Orange actually put the sample in the machine or turn it on, so either their super-DNA analyzer doesn't require that you put the sample in it, or it really took more like 10 seconds, which is about how long it would take to print the output.)
In other words, "I feel such a strong, deep connection to you...I don't know why, but it's so there!"

Especially odd since last time we saw Kyle, he was telling HoCaine to FOAD.
And that was very laughable that the allusion to what happened in Brazil made the guy crack.

That part confused me. I though they chased Aerosol's killer to Brazil and killed him there. Now they're saying he never left Miami? Or have I remembered that idiot plot incorrectly? Does this mean the Mucho Nachos are coming back?
Earl Camembert
No, I think they meant the killer went to Brazil and was killed there. But the poor writing said he just "never left the country," so the big bald inmate they were threatening (and who bore a striking resemblance to a young Peter Boyle) could logically think, "He never left? So he wasn't extradited back to the U.S.? Cool."

6) Escaped criminals have an information network that allows them to find out about Horatio’s son before anyone else knows.

And Horatio Caine is that well-known among the criminal underclass that everyone - even the wives/girlfriends of criminals - knows who he is and keeps an eye on his every move? What is he, Batman?

Delko's white shirt with the red flocking on it made Mr. Blackwell cry.

Did anyone else think HoCaine was going to make Kyle get a haircut exactly like his?

I thought they were going to dye it red.

Here's hoping that the African-American prisoners taking young Hoju under their wing leads him to a jailhouse conversion, becoming a Black Muslim. God, that would just further amp up the lunacy: "Sorry, Lieutenant, 'Hoju' is my slave name. Now you may call me Malik Shabazz X."
Christie L
This show is very educational. Here is what I have learned about Miami from watching CSI Miami:


And don't forget-- FL toll booth workers dress like Hooter's waitresses.
noahsotherwife
And Horatio Caine is that well-known among the criminal underclass that everyone - even the wives/girlfriends of criminals - knows who he is and keeps an eye on his every move? What is he, Batman?


Isn't he a cyberlebrity now?
vipcruizer
Did anyone else think HoCaine was going to make Kyle get a haircut exactly like his?
I certainly did!

This show has to be aware that people aren't watching for the story, but rather the idiotic things they do week after week. How many jobs will Ryan have? What cheeseball line will HoCaine speak while putting on his glasses this week? It's a joke, and I enjoy the laugh.
DMaverics41
I wondered what Jon togo really feels about his character and how poorly written he is. I bet he just thinks what next can they throw and humilate his character with.
AcheronBlue
This show has to be aware that people aren't watching for the story, but rather the idiotic things they do week after week. How many jobs will Ryan have? What cheeseball line will HoCaine speak while putting on his glasses this week? It's a joke, and I enjoy the laugh.


Me, too. Me, too! I've only actually began watching this show this season. Oh, I've caught previous episode on late night repeats and such be never really watched from beginning to end. Wow. CSI: Vegas it is not. It's a comedy.

Some industrious person made a video over at that other place, that merges together many, many of HoCaine's opening liners. I couldn't watch the whole thing. It gets to be very repetitive. But than I had to think that someone actually took the time to edit all that video/tivo together. And I thought I had no life. LOL.
Valhalla2
What was killing me was Boa V's extremely poor reasoning skills. She thinks Wolfe set her up? How the hell could he possibly have done that? He set up the shooting appointment before the prisoner breakout even happened. He could not have known she'd be called to escape scene, nevermind the motorcycle scene right before her shooting range appt. Or that the cycle rider would inadequately toss the keys into the sewer grate to serve as the inadmissible evidence later. Or that she'd leave the evidence in the car AND be stupid enough to tell the shooting instructor. (btw, why didn't she give the evidence to Tripp?).

Well, ok, he may have been counting on her to do something stupid and then blab her stupidity to anyone nearby, but is it really setting someone up to count on someone performing the fundamentals of their job incompetently based on their vast previous history of incompetence? Sheesh.

There were countless other plotholes, but if she can't even reason through a simple timeline, how'd she get a job anywhere?
Firecat
Did they explain how the 3 strikes guy could afford a $300 an hour expert witness in the first place? Little baggies of heroin, maybe?
MelodyA
Did anyone else think HoCaine was going to make Kyle get a haircut exactly like his? LOL! Loved him watching over Kyle at the prison yard with the burning sun setting behind him...dramatic!


They are on the best way into SOAP -OPERA HELL. I know, most points have already been adressed, but this is my take on last nights desastrous episode:

1) Natalia seeing evidence and picking it up, throwing it on the dash of her car. What about bag it and tag it???? What about the "chain of evidence"?

2) Wolf picking the gun off the ground -and walking off with it. Again - what about bag it, tag it???

3) Renteria offering a whole lot of money to anyone who would free him from prison and then they send the bus off without any sort of police escort or security measures? How stupid is that?

4) Renteria's girl-friend telling him the blonde boy was HoCaine's off-spring in the midst of a prison break? Please! Couldn't the writers have come up with a better or at least a more original explanation?

5) HoCaine finally telling his illegitimate off-spring that he is his father and the boy's reaction is next to none? No questions from the kid about the how, when and why? The boy just follows HoCaine without uttering a word. If I get such a life-altering information I would at least show some emotions. Kyle's reaction was awkward at best. But then, I have never been a fan of the HoCaine/Kyle storyline which gets worse with every passing episode.
AimingforYoko
I think they referenced it in the opening, but I was laughing too hard and missed it. What movie/show is the $2 million a rip-off from. It is making me insane.

S.W.A.T.(The Movie)
seifenoper
When HoCaine closed the shades, my immediate thought was: "Oh, he'll bore the guy to death." I really don't know why I'm still watching this show. My only defence is that it's even more awful when dubbed in German - although nobody here will believe me that that woud be possible.
KathyV
What is the view here on the kid they have chosen to play Horatio's son? I am not responding to this kid. I am not blaming the actor exactly maybe its the way they are writing the character but I am barely detecting a personality on this boy. Its like he's 16 going on 10 or something
meredithand
What is the view here on the kid they have chosen to play Horatio's son? I am not responding to this kid.


It's about the same as he was on 24. I don't expect any improvement.
MelodyA
What is the view here on the kid they have chosen to play Horatio's son? I am not responding to this kid.


I don't like the character at all. They had 3 months to develop an interesting character and all they've come up with was Kyle. Not very convincing.
Firecat
Frankly, a block of wood with a slightly red wig would do about as good a job emoting. When HoCaine did the big 'I am your father' reveal you would have thought from Kyle's expression that they were talking about the pleasantness of the weather. And how did he not have any questions, like where the hell have you BEEN, dad?

I kind of hope they leave Ryan as an expert witness for a while. He can grow a mustache and swan about the lab, being kind of uselessly evil, perhaps in a black cape, and in every episode he'll be foiled again by the brilliance of the Miami CSIs. Or Boa Vista will just flash her boobs at him and render him speechless.

God, I hate these people. I think once the Speedle stuff is through, I might be out. I'm just not sure how much more of this show I can take, even for the humour value.
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iliketowatchtv
The big thing I am struggling with is Frank's appearance. I am sorry, but the bald head IS NOT a good look for him. I just cannot warm up to it.

So Horatio's son goes on the run, but before Ho turns him back in, he makes sure the kid gets a haircut???? That was laughable too. I fully expected, though, that the kid would get an identical Ho HairDo.

If it weren't for the laugh a minute I get from CSI-M, I wouldn't watch it. I still wonder why it's considered a drama, though. Seems more like a comedy to me!
add_duck
I can't decide if this is the best (ie most unintentionally hilarious) or worst episode ever. But it's definitely one or the other.

I HATED the scene where Alexxxx gives Calleigh the bullet from the Deaf girl, and that's sad, because usually when Khandi Alexander and Emily Proctor are on screen together it's the best acting this show ever sees. But, in a show that is little more than a bunch of ridiculous lines strung together by pretty scenery, we get this gem: "This is as innocent as a victim gets"
1) Someone has a disability, so they are automatically "innocent"? How patronizing!
2) In addition to her corpse-talking ways, Alexxx actually ranks her victims on an innocence scale? She needs to get out of the morgue more!
3) She wound up actually not being innocent! It's all ironic and stuff! Oh, shut up, Show.

But what really made that scene a classic was the fact that Alexxx and Calleigh are wailing and ringing their hands over the death of this most Innocent of Innocents ... until they find out Tripp didn't kill her. Then it's all:

Calleigh: A .45? Tripp only shoots a 9mm! Yes! [fist pump]
Alexxx: Ooh, can I call and give him the good news? Please please please? [big grin]
Calleigh: Sure, as long as I get to keep the bullet for a souvenir! [skips away merrily]

I get that it's a relief that your colleague didn't gun down a civilian, but could you at least wait until you're out of the autopsy suite before bustin' out the champagne? You were sad that she was dead a minute ago!

Also, CSI: Original Flava managed to wring two whole episodes worth of drama out of a possible "bad shoot." Here? We get about 15 seconds. I guess we had to wrap that plotline up but quick, lest it turn into compelling drama and take away screen time from HoCaine and his devil spawn. Speaking of which...

Did anyone else think HoCaine was going to make Kyle get a haircut exactly like his?

Hahaha, yes, I totally thought they were going to have a Parent Trap moment there.

Also, I liked how Kyle was placed in with the most violent adult offenders. I know he is being tried as an adult (whatever), but still.

You know, at the end, when HoCaine was all "We have to get you away from the general population," I was like, that makes a good deal of sense. Now that it's known that he's a cop's son (and not just any cop, but SUPER-Caine, who is personally responsible for the conviction of every single offender in Miami) he is almost certainly marked for retribution. Plus, he is still a juvenile, and also, I just assumed that HoCaine's word would be law with the corrections department. I mean, he does command the Coast Guard, the NTSB, etc.

...but then, in the last scene, HoJu is playing basketball, not just with the most violent offenders in the general population, but with the guy who assaulted him and tied him up??? WTF? Even for CSI: Miami, that defied logic!

On the other hand, I pretty much laughed 'til I cried at Ryan the "expert witness." Who would pay somebody $300 an hour when they have been FIRED from the crime lab? Doesn't that make his credibility just a hair below zero? And when Lawery Lady was asking Agent Orange "Just give me ONE negative on Wolfe!" I was screaming at the TV "Come on over to TWOP, lady! We'll give you pages and pages!" Heeheehee. I'm chuckling just thinking about it.

Oh, and then he finds the gun! And doesn't photograph it or in any way mark the location of it before picking it up! (Well, I guess he IS working for the defense!) And the gun was right under the crime scene tape, so that meant one of Miami's finest had to literally step over it to set up the tape, yet no one but Ryan found it! This is comedy gold, folks!

Oh crud, I'm going to have to tune in next week just to see how they manage to insert him into the case. As a season-long running joke, this is brilliant. It's pretty much the only reason I'm going to tune in!
rimfire
Ugh. Ryan needs to either be on the show or not be on it. It's ridiculous that he happens to be connected to every crime the CSI's are working. And the smugness!! "If he's guilty, he's guilty, OK?!" I think this brings the list to firing range instructor, bodyguard, and expert witness. What will be next?!
That, however, has been one of the more entertaining moments of CSI:M this season. A sort of "Where's Waldo" only with Ryan's job. I wonder if they planned it that way.

Did anyone else think HoCaine was going to make Kyle get a haircut exactly like his?
Well, the pathetic Prince Valiant-y bowl haircut he had kind of reminded me of a little kid, so when HoCaine took him to the hairdresser it was like: Daddy takes son to get his first haircut.

The big thing I am struggling with is Frank's appearance. I am sorry, but the bald head IS NOT a good look for him. I just cannot warm up to it.
Yes, I agree. And the uniform color isn't good for him, either. Poor Frank. I wish they'd have just let his character BE. Now the writers have even made it look like he reports to HoCaine. At least in previous seasons he came off looking like HoCaine's peer.

I think once the Speedle stuff is through, I might be out. I'm just not sure how much more of this show I can take, even for the humour value.
Unfortunately, I've been saying that for years. It's sort of like a car wreck...you just can't look away no matter how hard you try. I just wish one of the other channels would put something on opposite it so I'd have a ghost of a chance of breaking this addiction.
linderhill
EarlCam. said:
"Sorry, Lieutenant, 'Hoju' is my slave name. Now you may call me Malik Shabazz X."


I so want to see this scene! Can we have it please, please, please, PLEEZE!!! Let's call him HoJu/Shabazz from now on.
MelodyA
Frankly, a block of wood with a slightly red wig would do about as good a job emoting. When HoCaine did the big 'I am your father' reveal you would have thought from Kyle's expression that they were talking about the pleasantness of the weather. And how did he not have any questions, like where the hell have you BEEN, dad?



Would it surprise you that a handful of hardcore fans called this scene "the most intense and emotional scene" delivered by Caruso in a long time?
Frightening, isn't it?

When HoCaine closed the shades, my immediate thought was: "Oh, he'll bore the guy to death." I really don't know why I'm still watching this show. My only defence is that it's even more awful when dubbed in German - although nobody here will believe me that that woud be possible.


I believe it - I have heard it.
javalake
Calleigh: A .45? Tripp only shoots a 9mm! Yes! [fist pump]

I almost forgot about this. Didn't the prisoner take Tripp's gun, so Tripp had to take the bus driver's gun? Which would make any knowledge of Tripp's usual choice of gun irrelavent.

Do they intentionally put these plot holes in so we'd have something to talk about? I guess this gets them viewers, but it's nothing to be proud of.
MelodyA
Do they intentionally put these plot holes in so we'd have something to talk about? I guess this gets them viewers, but it's nothing to be proud of.


Nah, since those plotholes seem to be part of every episode - I think it is the writers. They just can't can up with better storylines.
Yountfan
I have one minor positive thing to post about in regards to this ridiculous episode.

It was nice seeing Aries Spears, not that his role/acting was special at all, get some acting work again. I haven't seen him since he bailed on Mad TV two or three years ago.

btw I think the breakout bribe was totally ripped off from the movie version of SWAT with Samuel L.
Erie42
And when Lawery Lady was asking Agent Orange "Just give me ONE negative on Wolfe!" I was screaming at the TV "Come on over to TWOP, lady! We'll give you pages and pages!" Heeheehee. I'm chuckling just thinking about it.


I was also yelling at the TV since the lawyer didn't need Agent Orange's help to find negatives on Wolfe. He was suspended without pay from the department. Wouldn't his personal file have all the information that they need?
Nova
Would it surprise you that a handful of hardcore fans called this scene "the most intense and emotional scene" delivered by Caruso in a long time?

Not as much as the fact that there is a 'handful of hardcore fans.'

MrNova was asking me if there are people who really like this show. I guess the ratings argue that they're out there -- just not where I hang out. *g*
mertensia
You know, I watch this show and all I can think is: why, exactly, did they go down this whole silly road with Ryan Wolfe? It's cringe-worthy and adds absolutely nothing. Neither does Caineling, for that matter.

And why why why didn't they order Tripp to the hospital?
MelodyA
You know, I watch this show and all I can think is: why, exactly, did they go down this whole silly road with Ryan Wolfe? It's cringe-worthy and adds absolutely nothing. Neither does Caineling, for that matter.


Great! You are the first one to voice the USELESSNESS of Caine illegitimate off-spring. The whole storyline is so underdeveloped and like the old folks where I come from used to say "It is neither fish nor flesh."
hilaryvm
You know, as far as I can tell, motorcycle stealer hadn't even been charged with a crime yet when Ryan was brought in. Generally, the defense brings in their expert to examine all the evidence after someone has been charged. I don't believe they let people examine evidence before it's even finished being processed by the CSIs, let alone allow the defense to walk off with the evidence without signing for it.
Plus, how could Boa Vista never learned to have properly shot a gun? It's not that hard. I hit a target (not the center, mind you, but I hit it) the first time I ever even shot a gun.
mertensia
Plus, how could Boa Vista never learned to have properly shot a gun? It's not that hard. I hit a target (not the center, mind you, but I hit it) the first time I ever even shot a gun.


Frankly given that she married Nick the biker, I'm surprised she didn't learn to use a gun then. Err....not to shoot him, but because I imagine in the CSI:Miami world of bikers, she was around them a lot.
ShantaD
how could Boa Vista never learned to have properly shot a gun? It's not that hard. I hit a target (not the center, mind you, but I hit it) the first time I ever even shot a gun.

Sadly, the writers probably just think it's "cute" that the pretty young cop can't shoot.
Mommy22alyns
It's kind of surreal to have this kid playing the Caineling so soon after appearing on 24. He's Jack Bauer's nephew and Horatio Caine's son... so that would make Jack and HoCaine brothers... which means that *blanking on the name Paul McCrane* is their brother too. But he was only Jack's half brother. Are Jack and HoCaine full brothers, or half brothers, or maybe brothers in law?? The head spins with all the possibilities.

*Insert appropriate character voices here*

Unca Jack!
Josh?
Horatio?
Son.
Jack Bauer!
Dad?
MelodyA
*Insert appropriate character voices here*

Unca Jack!
Josh?
Horatio?
Son.
Jack Bauer!
Dad?


HILARIOUS. LOL.
According to TPTB casting this actor was a huge success. I ask myself; couldn't they have found an actor who is a newbie? An indication for me that the long-lost-son-storyarch is not meant too be around too long - HOPEFULLY.
Lincolnave
In the long list of obvious plotholes the biggest one I can come up with is why the Hell would the kid be in an adult jail in the first place. Even if hes being tried as an adult he would still be held in a juvinelle facility until after hes convicted and sentenced. It was nice for Ho to get the reject from the SNL rip off show to bodyguard him and all but it was entirely unnessesary.

Not to mention the kid was in for kidnapping which is a federal crime in which the Miami Dade court system would have no jurisdiction over in the first place.


Theres some stupid ass people writing this show.
jolanda
Oh sweet baby Jesus, what a train wreck. You know it's bad when my husband pauses every 5 minutes to point out all the plot holes and other stupid things. I mean, we're talking about a guy who liked Battlefield Earth.

HoCaine Jr, where to start. I honestly have no idea where they are going with the spawn of Ho. I'm surprised Ho hasn't given him training glasses of justice yet. The actor is every bit as annoying as he was on 24.

I absolutely hate Frank's bald head, it just doesn't work for him. Neither does the uniform. It makes me sad because Frank is my favorite by far. He should get a spin-off with Brass. Now that I would watch.

It's still the best comedy on tv though.
NoDakGrl
I absolutely hate Frank's bald head, it just doesn't work for him. Neither does the uniform. It makes me sad because Frank is my favorite by far. He should get a spin-off with Brass. Now that I would watch.


Hey don't hate the head! I hate that he is in uniform again. He could totally rock the Telly look in a suit.

Count me in for the Frank/Brass show. I would totally watch!
Constantinople
For unknown reasons:

  • this episode is currently the only one from Season 6 available to watch on-line at CBS, &
  • I decided to watch it


Yet another prisoner escapes while being transported. Has any prisoner ever not escaped and/or been shot by another criminal while being transported?
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