The title says it all, really.

Oh, stop clowning around.


I guess I'm voting for Hillary to bring the serious crazy later on this season.


I forgot to comment about Solisa's, "I wear the very special parts of me on the outside and I showed the very special parts of me to Brad and I guess those aren't the parts he's looking for......." speech. How awesome was that? It should go in The Bachelor Hall of Fame.

I think it's pretty shitty to kick someone out just because they can't tell the difference between you and your identical twin. Unless, of course, you already wanted to kick them out for other reasons, and this just gave you something more lame on which to base that decision. In any case, it got rid of Solisa-I'm-A-Christian-Who-Loves-Lap-Dancing-and-Body-Shots, so well done, Brad/Chad!

And yes, Hillary will so be bringing the Stalker!Crazy! right about.....now.

Thanks for throwing the divorcee a bone, Brad! So to speak.

Anyone else feel like Sheena was bringing her teaspoon full of crazy to complete the rich, moist confectionary of psychosis that is this show? "Just tell him I like him and - and I watch him. A lot." Just me? Okay.

I wish he would just pick Jenni, who he already chose on day one as the lucky non-engagement finalist, so we could all just go home and scrub the skank off. And yet, I still watch.

Lions and tigers and bears, oh my, y'all!

First of all...oh Hillary! I'm sort of glad she got a rose because while her one-on-one date was cringe-inducingly embarassing, I enjoyed the little clip at the end with her snarking on McCarten and DeAnna. But her one-on-one...oy, Hillary! She was emotionally slutty to the Nth degree on that date. Plus, I now realize why he provided her a dress for her date. She can clearly not be trusted to dress on her own. Her rose ceremony gown? Totally prom-a-licious.

As for the other B'ettes...I usually hate the "front-runner" who the editors seem to be indicating is Jenni, but I actually sort of like her. Her voice bugs and she's a bit peppy, but I don't loathe her like I expected to. Every time I expect her to bust out her full Molly Shannon "Mary Catherine Gallagher!" she dials it back enough that I don't want to hurt her.

And let me get this straight...Stefy works out her Daddy issues in a convo with Brad and...gets a rose? Hmph.

Sheena garnered my undying love by laughing about the fact that they are named Brad and Chad.

Solisa's special parts are on the outside. Really, Solisa? I hadn't noticed. That other bootee, Lindsay, could be a double for the tranny on Dirty Sexy Money.

A Circus.

One of the most cringe inducing group dates since karaoke night in Blob's season.

Brad obviously comes from the school of thought of the needier the better...good grief.

So I live in Austin and this past weekend, I was in one of the bars that Brad and Chad own. Both of them were there. I've never met them before ... I saw Chad first and knew instantly it wasn't Brad. Yes, they look very similar but any of those women who didn't have a glimmer that SOMETHING was wrong have not been paying any attention to Brad at all. They have either been too nervous or too self-involved to really get a sense of him. (or too drunk!)

Okay, Brad and Chad were soooo unidentical looking. Or sounding.

I wasn't a big fan of Steffie until, "Either Brad is wearing dentures, or I'm really drunk." Heee!!!

Solisa: Sweetie, the parts of yourself that you show outside that most people keep inside? I have no words.

I wasn't too keen on Jenni before, but I liked her this episode. I appreciated that she brought up her career to Brad as if it was a serious thing. AND it showed she was there for the "right reasons"--to promote her career AND ALSO to find love. And I was awestruck by her tumbling. And, not sharing the news of their kiss with the houseful of harpies? Classy. And a good move.

I still prefer Chrissy(?) and Bettina, though...I think Bettina, although she looks a little faded and worn, is one of the prettiest B'ettes in recent history. And Chrissy is cool.

It seemed like Chad had a much better love connection with Sheena (?) than Brad did.

What is Jade still doing there? She's cute, but she's had such a sister/sidekick/catty sidelines chick edit that I thought she'd be sure to reveal some dirt on someone, and then get the axe.

I really find McKracken unattractive. She's like a freeze-dried Kirstie Alley of yore.

Also, that chick from the one-on-one date? I would've run screaming from her krayzee-eyed, snot-faced side faster than you can say "Brad n Chad", but then I'm not as gallant as Brad, I guess. He seemed genuinely alarmed at her total breakdown. It made me like him a little bit, despite myself. He is really doing a good job of seeming romantic rather than sleazy, I have to admit.



ETA, Wow, Snarkles, I didn't pick up on this...but you're so awesomely right!

I so very much want this on a t-shirt.

How typical that none of these desparate girls called Brad out on that little scheme with his brother! I was so hoping that someone would call him a jackass to his face. (I know that's too much to hope for). But I thought that trick was just unnecessarily cruel. I didn't get what Brad was thinking -- that if a girl noticed right away, that means she likes him more??

OMG! Married...before. *gasp* *swoon* Oh, the horror!

There are no words to how stupid that was - Bettina was married for a year. That's shorter than most relationships. Honestly, Brad, you're from Austin, not Mule Creek. Gah. Buck up, buddy.

If there is one thing I hate hate hate it's that screaming those chicks do enmass every time he opens his mouth. Shut up, ladies. It's not a sorority house announcing that the history final is cancelled, for god's sakes. Must admit, SexiestBachelorEver lost major points with me for keeping Hillary because she freakin' cried. They are so not even remotely compatible.

ETA: I'm not sure McMoron knows who SHE is, let alone Brad. Heh. Not a lot of brain cells percolating up there.

I think that is what they were thinking, and I have to agree. Brad and Chad were so different looking that if someone didn't pick up on it then they haven't been paying very close attention. They didn't even sound alike.

Oh, and I don't think McCarten had a clue that wasn't Brad.

Mallory was brazen in the pool, asking Brad to take off his pants.
Next week: Good-bye, Mallory.
Solisa was brazen with the bikini-doffing AND the "lap-dance". Thus, Good-bye, Solisa (and all your exposed parts).

I think Chad is a tad better-looking lad than Brad.

As Brad would say: "Okay."

They could do an entire episode of The Soup from this train wreck. Bawling, twins, special parts of me on the outside....

Either I'm mindlessly drifting for the first hour, or the very best parts (not to be confused with "my special parts") seem to come at the very end of each show. Just when it could not get any more bizarre than Solisa's parting parts speech, the credits begin to roll and what do we see?
Dates provided by Ringling Brothers Barnum and Bailey Circus

Having already blotted the circus date from my memory, my only reaction was "Ah. That's where they find these women!"

I am livid! At this show and at myself for watching it! Sending in the twin to test the sincerity of the bachelorettes was a really sh***y trick to pull on those women (even if they are morons, every last one of them). The idea that these people were there for the "wrong" reasons if they couldn't spot a twin they didn't know existed is just misogynistic. The only thing the gimmick proved is that a few of the gals have failed to focus obsessively on the facial features, voice, and laugh of the all-important bachelor.

I thought I liked Brad, but he is an idiot for going along with what was clearly the (horrifying) idea of the producers. Brad didn't make sense explaining his reasons for doing it because he was just doing something TPTB snickeringly told him would make for great TV.

I wish someone had said she didn't appreciate being lied to and then stormed out of the rose ceremony.

I have sworn off this train wreck before and gone back on my word, but this time I mean it--I'm done!

I don't think Brad and Chad look or sound very alike. I don't see a problem with Brad knowing this and wanting to see who would actually recognize him- or, in this case, not. I know I wanted a mate who could recognize that they were standing in front of someone who resembled me, but just resembled. Many of the women were laughing, it was so apparent to them that these identical twins are not identical.

Oh, but this show is totally misogynistic. Its very premise is disgusting! And I love.

I don't think it was lying to the girls, or taking it too far, or ridiculous at all to expect the girls to be able to tell the difference between two identical twins who really don't look very identical at all. Yeah, sure they don't spend THAT much time with him, but if the difference in faces, hair, height, shape didn't do it... you'd think the completely different voices would.

Considering that Brad gave an 'early' rose to McCarten, who really gave little indication that she realized Brad = Chad, I don't think he made all of his decisions based solely on who called the twin switcheroo. Instead, it was a convenient excuse for getting rid of otherwise classy girls like Solisa!

It was kind of an interesting 'I'm self involved' detector, though.

Hmm, maybe I need to adjust my TV, because I thought Brad and Chad looked very much alike. I did notice the difference in their voices, though. I haven't met very many sets of twins, but most people can notice differences no matter how subtle. But whether Brad and Chad look alike is beside the point -- I just feel that was a dirty trick to pull. Of course, any woman who is cast on this show should be aware of the many humiliations to which she will be subjected.

Their voices and teeth were very different. I also thought that their facial shapes were slightly different - maybe Brad is a little more leaner looking in the face? But the teeth & voice were dead give-aways.

Two of my closest friends are twins and even though it is clear to me which one is which when we first became friends I was hesitant to call one by name until I was sure I was right. So while most of the women did know something was up they may have been hesitant to voice it right away (maybe that's why we didn't see all reactions?) However, if you are paying any attention at all to the guy you are supposedly crazy about it shouldn't take you more than 5 minutes tops to realize that something ain't right and at least look like you are aware of it. As Deanna said, if you are dating someone with a twin that person is going to want to know that you can tell the difference fairly easily! Yikes.

Speaking of Deanna, what is the deal with her edit? At first she was getting the great connection, classy girl edit but now I'm not sure what they are doing to her. Bitch or woman who is honest and doesn't like the catty, fakiness and speaks up? I see her as a refreshing change on this show. She can stand up for herself and be honest. I was surprised that she flat out admitted that she didn't want Hillary to come back from her date, not because she didn't like her but because it meant one less woman in the mix. Which I'm assuming most of the others were thinking. Then she get's called McSkanky at the end, which huh? Am I missing something here? Of course this came from Hillary who I think was mad at Deanna and McCarten for not kissing her butt after her 1 on 1. Then next week we see her in a dispute with Jade. Well anyone who had issues with that woman and her perpetual scowl is okay by me. To me this comes across as a normal woman who is very composed, realistic, isn't perfect and is not afraid to speak out when she doesn't like what is going on. Based on what I've seen of Brad he would be totally cool with that. But then I remember what show I'm watching and it often seems like the women are edited to be either a total bitch or Mother Teresa in a mini skirt. Maybe they will surprise me. She is one of about 3 or 4 that I still like so I hope she isn't about to get a hatchet job for having a spine.

Please tell me someone else laughed out loud during the boat date, when Solisa gave Brad his lap dance and it was immediately followed by a shot of an exploding cannon. I had to pause my DVR, I was laughing so hard at that. Oh, Solisa. I will miss you.

And WORD on DeAnna's edit. I loved her, but apparently she's a bitch? (Maybe this is why I like her?) I don't know. If it comes to her and Jade, I'm solidly Team DeAnna at this point, although I did love Jade's deliciously bitchy "Are you nervous? I mean, you could be going HOME" to Hillary before her one-on-one.

Speaking of, Hill looked like a total tranny in her Vegaspectacular dress and Dolly Parton hair. If I had to dress up like that, I'd probably be crying too.

If I hear the "name" McCarten one more time I will throw my shoe at the tv. Is she a person or am I buying cigarettes in Ireland?


I demand to see Hil's license. If she's a day under 45 I will eat a sock.


If I was dating a guy named Brad and found out he had a twin brother named Chad, I'd dump him then and there. I'd want out of that gene pool.

edit: to fix some bad paragraphing.

Well, I'm still liking Jenni as the "winner" so to speak. And lucky for me, while I don't find her as likeable as Tessa, I don't hate her either. So yeah......whatever.

De Anna sure showed her bitchy side tonight. I'm rethinking her fate right now. Maybe Bettina Newton-John will be replacing her in the final two.

So.....is Hilary the big "crier" we've heard about this season? That chick is a little psycho fo' sure.

Woo-hoo! for Solisa the pornstar leaving. Lindsay too....what a dumbass. If only they had taken Mc Moron with them.

Anyone else notice that the only time we saw Jade tonight was at the Rose ceremony?? I guess the only reason she's still there is to set up the big bitchfest previewed for next week's show with DeAnna. Can.not.wait. for that one. :)

And HELLO?? Chad & Brad are SO not identical. It didn't even look like they have same eyecolor to me. Brad's are a beautiful blue, but his brother's looked brown or hazel to me, at least on my TV they did.

This one had too many LMAO moments to name! But one of my absolute favorites was Solisa's 'I started shaking my butt because it's the only thing I'm good at'. BWA HA HA!

And I loved blondie crying at the end over her 'lost connection' with her dream man when she couldn't tell it wasn't him sitting in front of her! Oh yes, that was some deep connection you had, honey.

They looked and sounded VERY different to me, especially in profile. Their chins and face shape were completely different. The brother had a differently proportioned body too.

I honestly believe this bachelor is a very hunky lovable dork. He looked SO sad when the girls didn't know it wasn't him. I thought he was going to vomit and/or cry.

Now is it just me or did Jenni not have to meet the brother???

I loved the twin twist.

How nice to see these women who fall in "love" not even be able to recognize their soul mate.

This show is the cheesiest. It needs to do titles in a big blue box.

Totally mixed feelings on the twingate -- yes, it would be nice to know that it wasn't HIM,

BUT


What a crappy cheap trick to pull. Yeah, that's the way to build trust in relationships. I loved the farewell speeches tonight - the "I wear my very special parts on the outside" and the girl who claimed she wasn't going to cry, and then started to tear up.

I found it rather odd that some gals were actually sitting outside alone, waiting for Brad/Chad to approach them during the twin switcheroo part of the rose ceremony. It almost seemed like they'd been set-up by the producers so Brad could single out the women he was more undecided about and figure out exactly who he needed to ditch by the end of the night.

I didn't think it was dirty or deceitful in the least, especially considering how different these "identical" twins really look/sound/act! If these gals are indeed supposedly already falling for this guy, they should at least be smart enough to notice all the subtle differences between Brad and Chad. It was a conveniant little plot device courtesy of the producers that Brad seemed to actually take quite seriously, so I was cool with the idea---now I wonder if he's tried this twin switcheroo thing out before with prior girlfriends?

That Solisa and her Christian values/morals is quite the charmer with her spontaneous streaking and lapdancing! Not an ounce of class to be wasted on that one...and I loved the quick shot of Brad sucking in his stomach and slightly backing away just to get some distance between himself and Solisa's uninvited lapdancing. Right before the exploding cannon, of course.

Seeing Hillary weeping and babbling to Brad like a complete moron on her date made me shout my neverending question at the TV once again: Where DO they find these idiots???!!! Seriously, homegirl barely knows this guy...yet she gets whisked away in a private jet in a borrowed dress and jewels so she can have a private dinner in SanFran, and suddenly she's blissfully crying like the guy just proposed to her with a 10 carat diamond ring?

Maybe she doesn't get out much. Maybe the men in her area aren't much better to look at than Ed Asner. Maybe she's never had a date take her anywhere nicer to eat than Red Lobster and it got her especially emotional. Who knows? She's got a serious side, y'all!

Speaking of which, I'd REALLY hate to see the weepfest that would go down if she dared get a wedding proposal...yikes...

And her actually being SURPRISED that some gals there wouldn't want to see her return from her solo date with Brad was especially creepy. Because of course, if she were in their shoes, she wouldn't possibly feel the same way, right? Dumbass.

McMoron continues to mope and annoy around the house. So now we have to endure her crappy attitude/lame personality for yet another week and compete with Jade for head housebitch status. Seriously, she smelt like all kinds of bitch even when she had her one-on-one time on that stupid date with Brad at the circus. And the minute a gal in there dares utter the cliched reality famewhore phrase, "I'm not here to make friends", you can trust that she's completely dead to me. Shutup already, McMoron---are you aware that NOBODY in the history of reality competition shows EVER wins the moment he/she actually says that phrase? Idiot.

You shutup too, Jade. We know you're only there for the drama, judging from the previews from next week.

Team DeAnna all the way here! And Team Jenni too...she seems sweet AND savvy in all her giggly cheerleader glory. Even though her discussion with Brad about moving out of her city seemed a wee bit too premature, it was oddly endearing at the same time, especially considering how she kept the first kiss mentions all to herself. Very classy move indeed.

You know, I might be crying like Hillary if I actually got taken on a date TO THE CIRCUS.(?!!) But I can assure you all that those certainly wouldn't be tears of joy.

I hated this twin twist and I have to admit it's because I would have been screwed by it. Seriously.

I would have seen him. I would have thought that he seemed completely different. I would have noted that he looked totally different and sounded totally different and I would have giggled a bit too much with the uncertainty of it all, but...I would have thought it was the stress of the show getting to me because WHY ELSE WOULD ANYONE BE STANDING THERE SAYING "HEY, I'M BRAD". It's not that I wouldn't have noticed or cared that he didn't seem himself, but I wouldn't have had any reason, other than the belief that production itself was hard on both the Bachelor and myself, to think that things were going really weird.

It's not that ANYONE really believes these women, who haven't had any real alone with him or known him for more than a few highly stage-lit and booze fueled days, KNOW-know Brad, EVERYONE of them knows that he and they, at this point, are still party-acquaintances and should, thus, not go around yelling "Hey, You're NOT you!!"

But, hey...why not embarrass a bunch of women by pretending otherwise? Because they've totally run out of actually challenging ideas for this show. They're just gonna go for the classic, let's-be-assholes gags instead.

Why in the world would the circus announce Brad as the sexiest Bachelor ever -- in a tent full of children!? I was completely astounded. I was surprised he gave the rose to Stephy. I totally agree, she worked out her daddy issues on him and he seemed to fall for it! But the circus wasn't a bad group date, actually.

Re: Hillary. Oh gosh, words can't describe how incredibly cringe-worthy that date was! I can't believe Brad kept wiping tears from her face, and then proceeded to give HER a rose. She is going to turn out to be the stalker of the house. Also? I was rather surprised he gave her that expensive jewelry and fancy location fantasy date; I was expecting either a Jenni and Brad fantasy date or a DeAnna or Brad date, a la Andy and Tessa.

I'm actually liking Jenni more and more. She was very sweet when they were talking together. I did appreciate that she brought up her job in Phoenix. I loved that she hadn't told anyone about their kiss. But the more I look at her, the more I think Audrina from The Hills will look like her in a few years.

Hmm...twingate. I also thought that it was planned in some way so that Chad would approach each girl separately. I'm so glad some of the girls were able to tell the difference, because Brad and Chad looked significantly different to me. I thought it was absolutely hysterical. I wished we saw more of DeAnna and Stephy's interaction with Chad, and I wished we were shown Jenni's reaction as well.

This ep had me giggling from start to finish from all the crazy.

I really, really hope that Jade goes home next week in that DeAnna and Jade showdown! Yah! Team DeAnna all the way!

What about the shot of her giving Brad a booty lap dance followed immediately by the shout of “fire in the hole”?!

Was it just me or is Chad hotter than Brad? He had better scruff.



Evil One, Thank you! I could not figure out who she reminds me of but you nailed it.

Deanna is my favorite and I must admit, Jenni is growing on me. She showed class last night in many ways.

I wasn't offended by the Twin Twist (come on, this is The Bachelor!) Chad and Brad look and act so completely different that I can see how Brad would be offended if one of his "ladies" (at least he doesn't call them "females", gah) didn't know within a few minutes that they weren't talking to him.


Audrina could be so lucky.

Where does the line for "I already like Chad better than Brad" form? Perhaps it's just that Chad isn't under the stress of being on the Bachelor journey (drink!) but he seemed to have a much more laid back, chill vibe that I way prefer. Brad just seems very tightly wound at times. Also, Chad is better looking (better facial hair too), and he doesn't have that uberpronounced drawl that Brad has.

I do like Jenni a lot, which surprises me, because that giggly type normally awakens homocidal thoughts in me. And Brad saying that he still gets nervous around her is a huge tell, IMO. I'd be surprised if Jenni didn't win at this point, though she is getting the early frontrunner edit, which often means a spectacular flameout is ahead. I still like DeAnna, even with her newfound bitchy side. Bettina and Sheena are OK too--even Kristy's not too bad. Damn...five girls I like at least a little. What is the world coming too?

McCarten is a first class bitch and a whore. If Brad can't tell that, then he's more blind than she is for not being able to tell him from Chad. Maybe they deserve each other. I'm upset that we didn't get to see more bitchy, tranny Jade this week. Lord knows that's the only good reason for having her around. If they keep her around, I'm going to have to insist that we see plenty of bitchtastic crazy from her.

Unless Brad comes up with a nickname for McCarten, she's toast. No way will he want to keep saying that harsh-sounding name forevah!

Brad himself: He's a nice guy. Self-made. Humble. Yada, yada. He speaks painstakingly, in a very "not hot" way. IMHO!

Totally agree about McCarten's name, WD2. I can't believe any parent would saddle a child with that ugly name and then not provide a cute nickname. I'm surprised they don't call her Mickey or something.

I think the whole idea of having Chad show up was an IQ test, because there's no way anyone above the idiot level wouldn't recognize they weren't the same person.

As someone said before, Brad is kind of a dork, but he seems to be a sweet dork with a sense of humor and a smoking hot bod. And he doesn't take himself too seriously, unlike the previous one, who was downloading application papers for himself for the Nobel Prize, the Emmy Awards, and sainthood.

Hi, this is just a reminder. I've noticed a few people only have one line break between paragraphs. I'm not sure if you're copying your posts from a word processing program, or if you're just used to typing that way. When a person is reading through a bunch of pages at once (like I do), it really breaks up the flow of the board. Also, big chunks of unbroken (or semi-broken) text can be difficult to read, online. Please use two line breaks between paragraphs.

C'mon, didn't you hear Chris in Episode #1. Everyone's saying it!!!!

Hilary: Wow, it's amazing that some woman just cannot wear formal gowns. Both last night and in the premiere, she looked soooo uncomfortable. Bad posture, skulking around. Poor showing, generally.

Lindsay: I thought she looked absolutely beautiful during the Brad/Chad "challenge" and the rose ceremony; the best I've seen her look on the show yet. Too bad she's gone.

The Challenge: I'm sorry, but I just don't get the concept. If they really are identical twins (which is what the show is pushing), then why exactly is the ladies' failure to tell them apart that damning? They've known Brad for, what, a couple of days (in real time) and most of them haven't had extended one-on-one time with him.

Also, given the context, not knowing that Brad had a "twin" and not seeing the two of them side-by-side, and being on camera, I can understand someone not being brave enough to call "bullshit", on camera, especially when they're only given a few seconds with Chad. I don't think that's necessary a lack of observation skills/knowledge of Brad as it is a risk-averse personality.

Think about it, without expecting a twin-twist, if you're wrong, you'd look pretty batshit crazy: "Hey, you're not Brad! What have you done with my Brad?!? Brad? Brad? Where are you?"

I like McCarten. There is something seductive about her that has drawn me in. She can come off sounding like a jerk on screen, but I think it would play out as hilarious if I was actually talking to her. I'm still a Jenni fan too because her face genuinely brightens a room. It would be hard to be unhappy around her. Of course, Bettina is clearly the most attractive woman in the group. Her ex-husband really dropped the ball in that marriage.

Everyone else is either ugly, annoying, bland, or an emotional wreck. That said, I'm looking forward to DeAnna and Jade's do-or-die date.

Absolutely agree! Since someone wouldn't expect it, I know I'd feel like a moron if I found out I was wrong. Better to play along, though not in this case, I guess. Sarah definitely picked up on it, but didn't want to out and out say it. I think she had a whatever attitude about the boot.

I think it was a shitty move to pull, especially because I think some of the girls were told by TPTB. Maybe I'm not giving some of them enough credit, but some of them called it too quickly, especially in a sort of high pressure situation. I would have expected them to chat about it amongst themselves, but not to blurt it out.

The twin twist was a shitty move IRL, but I think it made for great TV. Not to give Fleiss ideas, but I can foresee a whole series of dating shows based on the premise.

Hillary is getting the goner (opposite of winner) edit. And DeAnna's bitch edit is through the eyes of Hillary and her confidante, Jade, IMO. Hence, I think DeAnna sticks around for a while and Jade is going home next week. Or at least, I hope so. DeAnna is pretty cool, other than the Greek-speaking introduction.

I also like Stephy--her Southern/Argentinian accent is really cute and she makes some great faces. Bettina has a major confidence and hair-twirling problem. Sheena is the oldest 23-year-old I've ever seen. And I'm warming up to Jenni, who is surprisingly normal despite the loud laugh and perky personality.

I think they looked very alike in profile, but not so much straight on. Also, Chad's (seriously, Chad and Brad??) speaking voice was so much more appealing to me than Brad's.


This just occurred to me...by this point, we had about 10 nicknames for lil' Andy, our last bachelor. I haven't noticed any for Brad so far. Does that mean we like him better? Or there is less to snark on? He is generally a lot less offensive then most of the tools that have graced this journey. Drink!

Yeah. The ladies were obviously instructed by TPTB to take a seat on that bench and wait for something to happen. What they were told makes all the difference. And I wouldn't be surprised if some were told "Brad has a test for you" or something to that effect while others were told either something more innocous or nothing at all.

I think he was just afraid of what would happen if he didn't give it to her, so he decided to wait until he's in the house and standing farther away to cut her. (Clearly he had some extra slots this week, anyway -- he kept Jade, didn't he?)

I think Brad kind of gives out the date roses on a pity basis anyway (see Circus Date, Stephy).

I was totally thinking about this throughout the whole episode. I can’t wait to see Joel McHale set this up on Reality Show Clip Time.

Still, I wish at least one of these women had the balls to tell Brad and Chad (gawd, I hate it when twins’ names rhyme) pulled a rotten trick. Now THERE’s a conversation that would show the real side of a person...

OMG! That is a perfect call! Cruel, perhaps, but perfect. Does she have a cleft chin? I hate to say it, but that always seems very masculine to me.

I don't think the twin thing was cruel. I don't think the twins are particularly hard to tell apart, either. But I would have been very nervous to call them out on it on TV, b/c I would be mortified to be wrong. I am sure the producers segregated them all for the 1-on-1 time with Chad so they would spill the beans to each other. The poster upthread who speculated that the producers must have said something like "sit here and wait for something to happen" has to be right-on -- otherwise I call foul on the one who got it after one sentance out of Chad's mouth!

That girl with insides on the outsides...so going to be a clip on The Soup this week.

What I'd really like to know, is how Brad would do if these girls had twins? I seriously doubt he'd spot the difference and be able to tell that there had been a switch.

...that was a jackass thing to do...but made for good TV.

That is exactly what I was thinking.

Whether you call her McMoron, EggCarton, McFarton, or McNasty, McCarton is one bitchy woman, along with her co-bitches Hillary and Jade.

I don't think DeDe is a bitch at all. She's telling it like it is-there are a lot of bitchy women in the house this time around. I've been referring to this season as "The Mean Girl" season. If Jade and Hillary don't like her, then I'd say consider the source.
Jenni, DeDe and Bettina are my faves so far.

Hillary, what an idiot. She made a complete ass of herself on that date, and poor Brad looked so very uncomfortable. I think he gave her the rose just to shut her up. And later at the pool she was being a complete ass and bragging about the date. If she had asked me whether or not I wanted her to not come back from that one-on-one date, I'd have raised both hands!


Ah, Solisa. You and your "special parts" will be missed, but I'm sure you'll find someone else who'll appreciate them.

Oh the twin switcheroo was hysterical. This is Fleiss, people. Can you imagine how he had to hold back from substituting Chad in the fantasy suite episode? I'm sure this was the tamest substitution idea his co-producers and Brad would let him get away with. And I don't think it was any worse than the traditional visit from the Bachelor's mother/brother/sister/ex-girlfriend/current-but-broken-up-for-the-show girlfriend visit where they'd quiz the bachelorettes about their virginity, the death of their pets, favorite vegetable etc. and whether they seemed to be a match for the Bachelor and then declare a winner.

I still like Brad. He's just decent. And probably a little dumb, but that's ok.

I'm not sure the twin twist was "fair" this early on, but it would definitely be something to test out in the final 4 or 3!

I thought the twins definitely weren't identical, but close. Mostly, Chad had a different, more laid-back way of talking and acting, which is why one girl said he was "giggly." I also thought he had a longer face, and he definitely lacked the mole on his left cheek, which you think fellow mole-person McCarten would notice! I agree that some of the women who didn't say anything might have thought it would be rude to accuse him of anything, especially when they weren't sure what was going on. Which is probably how I would be. Which is why I was impressed by the ones who spoke up right away.

The circus? Yuk! I hate clowns. I have clown-o-phobia (coulrophobia). Hate hate hate them.

Hillary is such a sad woman. Clearly not F2 material, so why'd he have to waste a fantasy date on her?

Forget Brad/Chad, am I the only one still having trouble really telling some of these chicks apart? I've watched every season, and I can't really feel any of these women much. They all seem like ciphers--they all seem almost the same. Maybe if some had short hair or ethnicities or funny voices or something unique, it'd be easier.