Hey, I've just noticed a lot of talk in several character/couple threads about Mark and Callie both as friends or maybe more, so I thought they could use a thread of their own.

I personally see a lot of potential for them romantically, but it's something that would have to be eased into; Callie would more than likely be tending to the fresh wounds of her failed marriage and Mark is well, Mark. But I can honestly see her breaking him down and having him want to become this better guy for her. She's a family kind of woman, and family is something he doesn't have, but craves.

Anyway, that's my 2 cents at 7:30 am after not sleeping, but hopefully you guys have some opinions and predictions to add!

Hey,

First of all, sorry for my bad English. I'm from Austria, well,.....
I would love to see Callie and Mark together. In the Austrian TV Callie and Georg are still married, but I always thought that their relationship wouldn't last very long.
Georg is to conservative for her. Mark would fit much better, because they are both sexy and really hot (especially Mark)!

I could see Mark and Callie towards the end of the season romantically, but I could see them as friends now. Mainly, I wouldn't want to see them hook up too quickly since I just don't want to see Mark hurt as the rebound guy. Right now, I can honestly say between Mark and George, Mark is completely the better man.

First of all, love the name of this thread. "Dirt, Sexy Hotness" So true ... so so true ;)

Okay, I could definitely 'ship Callie and Mark as long as they take it slow - build somewhat of a friendship first and let Callie get over this situation with George. Last thing this show needs is ANOTHER quickie, rebound relationship. Callie is the girl that won't take Mark's crap - friendly or otherwise - and I just think, all around, it would be a fun relationship to see.

And besides, they both pretty much have no one right now. And I really like what Mark said to Callie. And if anyone understands what adultery can do to a person, it's him.

I was thinking we should have a Mark and Callie thread...cause let's face it one way or another we'll get some form of a relationship with them. Which I welcome all the way.

I agree it would need to be a slow build up if it goes anything in terms of romantic, would LOVE for Mark just to be a friend right now to her through all of this George stuff. He seemed concerned for her last week, and I could see them hanging out at Joe's. So something with them towards the end of the season, or maybe Shonda and Co leaving it as a cliffhanger with where they stand would be good. Callie needs time after this George and Izzie stuff, plus if they happen to go the route of a baby involved...that changes a lot of things.

I have to say Mark and Callie's scene last week was my favorite scene the whole night.

Agreed. And not to read into everything too much because who knows, ad libs happen, but as she was frantically searching for the baby, the way he called her Callie and not Torres stuck out for me, like just to see her upset he wasn't thinking professional, that's when he could tell that SHE wasn't ok.

I think that it was also interesting how she was so determined to act be looking for this baby, to suppress the reality of why she was upset, she's turned around facing away from him, and then as soon as he says "You're not okay" she just freezes, turns, and is able to open up. I'm not saying it's any sort of "love-y" thing, but that I don't know that that would have happened with just anyone.

That all said, I was rewatching some Season 3 last night, including "Oh, The Guilt" and not gonna lie, despite her hair being a little off, they look pretty darn good in bed together. Just putting it out there. LOL

Yep that stuck out at me as well, that he called her Callie vs. Dr. Torres seeing as others were around. That, and that he knew something was wrong and said something about it. I loved their whole talk in S3 about family, seemed real, like he took what she said to heart. She's really the only one he has that hasn't treated him like an ass at SGH up to this season. Meredith always gave him shit on his manwhore ways, and Derek flat out avoided him and Addison did what she did to him. No one really talked to him other than Callie. So it's good, and I can't wait to see how this all plays out.

With the scene between Mark and Callie, I just wonder what's going through Mark's head there out of sheer curiosity. In my mind, Addison may have thought that Derek was having an affair way back when before she realized he was all work and maybe he saw a little bit of that in Callie.

Just a thought.

Mark respects Callie as a surgeon, and as a person, and I do agree that he probably does not want to see her go through what Addison went through, hence the advice to talk to George. Mark is an honest guy, and he is not going to respect that George and Izzie have been carrying on behind Callie's back. It may make him look like a hypocrite (since he is likely King of the Dirty Mistresses at SGH), but I think he has learned a little from the mistakes he made with Addison, and he is not going to let Gizzie off the hook without them experiencing a little karmic payback for how they have affected Callie with their actions.

I loved that he called her Callie, too.

I think if we've seen nothing else with Sloan it's that he's pretty observant. And so is Callie. I could definitely get on board with a pairing between these two. I think, if the writers would give Callie her spine back, she could be the one that could make Mark settle down. Because he will witness her fall apart over George and see how much it hurts someone to be cheated on. I think, through Callie, Mark could really understand what he did to Derek and why it's so hard for Derek to be friends with him again.

And Mark seems like the type who would be drawn to someone who was hurting and since he has to see that Callie is absolutely a friendless wonder (just like he is), I could see him taking it upon himself to look out for her.

I'd much prefer a friendship at the start and then something gradual, but I'd love to see it either way because I think they both deserve it and it would definitely be dirty, sexy hot. :)

I can see Mark and Callie together (Go Mallie). I would like for them to be friends first, I think they both need a friend more than a lover right now.

MUCH better than O'Malley... I've gotta say that the scene between the two of them was probably my favorite in the episode. I thought that it showed how much Mark has grown - while he may always be a Manwhore, there's more to him. I do agree that they need to cultivate a friendship first, and that scene really laid out the groundwork for that. (Oh, if only Shonda listened!)

It is better than O'Malley someone on the TV.com board came up with it. Even though, Mallie should be come friends first, I think that they are going to sleep with each other (making Callie feel better about herself). Than they will be on the road to becoming friends and hopefully more.

Mallie is much lovelier than Cark, which I've seen on a few boards. Cark makes me think of carp for some reason. LOL :)

I wonder if Mark will be one of the ones to 'humiliate' George. T.R. Knight and now Chyler Leigh have commented on George's humiliation ... I'd love to see that happen. ;)

IAWTC.

Mallie ... it's too cute!

I have a feeling that they are going to be friends ... first, at least. I know there have been spoilers out that say they're casting a mid-30's girl next door type for one of the hot docs - my guess is Mark, only because if Crush is making an appearance than that leaves Alex out. George has his hands full (though, apparently he's the stud so anything is possible), and Der is wrapped up in Mer.

So that could rule out a Mallie romance. For the time being, anyway. But who says they can't have a dirty-hot one nighter like before? Callie's gonna need a pick-me-up!

Anything for Mark to take his shirt off .... hahaha.

LOL Cark! It just sounds gross.

I think I'd prefer Mark and Callie to stay only friends, but I have always loved their scenes together.

As much I'm all for shirtless Mark Sloan, I would really hate to see Callie in that position. She's probably going to be really vulnerable and so IMO Mallie friendship trumps shirtless McSteamy, at least in that scenario.

See this is where for once I hope Shonda doesn't go that route. I think Mark just being there as a friend is much better in this situation. I think Mark is sleeping with the nurses because I don't think he's looking to settle down quite yet, I think there could be a lingering for Addison (maybe as well it keeps him open of crossover to help ratings) so he's not moving to quick. Guess they wont have him settle in with anyone till that other show is okay ;) So just as he said to Derek he's having adventures. LOL Plus the cast for the 30yr female, and based on sides for Lauren, it's most likely for Mark. So whether is becomes anything or just a flirting moment for now, not sure how Callie would mix in here if they have sex.

I really don't want to see a one night with these two. If it were a one-nighter with Alex I would be okay with but Mark....right now the door is open for some really good, stand-by me scenes and sex...well it's not time yet IMO. Although this is Shonda and Grey's and we saw what S3 was so she'll probably let them throw down after a stop at Joe's again. Sigh...I just want a normal friendship on this show, everybody doesn't have to have sex all the time!

The thing with the way that the season is shaping up so far, Alex and Callie are pretty much out of the question - because i dunno, he's not feelin' her, and seems way more interested in Mini Mer.

As for Mark and Callie, I think it's still too soon to tell, although it's definately working out in the world of fanfiction and SaRa herself said in an interview that she thinks that Mark and Callie would be a good match.

Someone was telling me today that Rebecca Gayheart (Eric Dane's wife) is also a fan of Mark and Callie. I haven't found confirmation online, but she supposedly said that she thinks Callie could "tame the manwhore".

One thing is certain ... they'd be hot doing whatever. :)

really? that's so cute. I too think they'd be good together. he seems to genuingly care about her, and she doesn't cut him any slack when he's being an ass. She'd call him on his crap.

I am so glad I am not the only person shipping Mark and Callie!!

I would like to see them start as friends-both missing Addison, both being totally dissed by the ones that they love-and have it develop into something more. I totally think these two would make the best pair at SGH. He's all hot and dirty and a good surgeon, she's a dirty, sexy hot girl who is also a good surgeon...they would be king and queen of Seattle Grace.

Plus, I would like to see Mark giving Gizzie a hard time. I mean, seriously. I think he should extend IzzMe a personal invite to the Dirty Mistresses Club. As for George, I think a little humiliation will go a long way.

I just think that the slow brewing of Mark and Callie would be really sweet compared to all the bitterness thus far for both characters. And they really have chemistry together. It's not forced or anything and I like that. But it's also not so 'in your face', which makes for an interesting developmental storyline, I think. I wouldn't mind waiting a while for these two to get together if it's going to take its time to be this amazing thing, because it has the potential to be.

I am all for Mark and Callie being friends. Since Addison had left she really needs someone to confide in and I think Mark fits the bill. Since last season they have already been there and done that, Here is hoping that they become great friends before they visit that wonderful place again. I would hate for it to be a rebound hook up again.

I love Mark and Callie together as friends, I really do. But nothing more. I think I fell in love with them back in the ep when they discussed him being a dad. She knows him, not just from her own experiences with him, but I bet Ads told her a thing or two and I think she cuts him some slack regardless. She has a knack of being able to see him as being just as vulnerable as she is despite the ballsy exterior. They have a lot in common in many ways, despite being very dissimilar in many others. I couldn't stand Callie when she first showed up, mainly because I can't stand that sad sack of a douchebag that she fell so madly in love with *barf*. But the more I see of her in settings that don't involve her pathetic prick of a husband, the more I like her.

Based on todays episode, I can really see them doing something with these two. I mean, it looks like they're building towards something. I guess only time will tell.

I would love for Callie to be the one to tame the manwhore.

I totally bought a ticket on the love train for Mallie. I think these two have great chemistry and I really want to see them get closer. I agree with those who think that they should take it slow though, as both of them have been burned by people they loved. They do need the friendship for now, and besides, a friendship would be the best foundation for a long term relationship for them. That and I think it would be nice to see a "curvy" woman actually get the hottie in TVland for once.


Well, I'm not sure if this is spoilerish anymore as I think we know who this is now - Dr. Hahn. And quite frankly....They cannot hook her up with Mark. Seriously. I think her and Richard could tango, but she's gotta leave mark alone. I think Shondaco may be laying the foundation for Mallie getting together, but I hope it isn't in some revenge sex scenario. Though I could see them trying to regurgitate the MerDer dynamic with them being "sexy friends" that turns into something more...

It isn't Dr. Hahn.

I think Hahn and the casting of the other person are two separate things as well. But Mark's surprising crush is making me wonder if Hahn's involved. I sort of can't see how in two episodes he's starting to crush on her...but maybe. Right now they haven't even met. Find it hard for Mark to fall in only one episode, I don't see where they work together in Episode (promo for next week looked like Callie and him). So my money is still on Callie, their scene last night was GREAT! Loved how he told her he was there for her.....then how he was "really" there for her at night. It was good. I'm still going with Callie as his surprise crush, and that even though he has a crush doesn't mean anything happens. I guess Meredith could be too (would be difficult though) and not sure he would go that route with Derek and him now.

I'm still pulling for Mark and Callie--if after all this, it doesnt happen, i'm going to be PISSED. If they have him crush on Hahn....I'm going to be LIVID




you seem so sure......use your spoiler tags if you have to, i want to know WHY lol

And do we really need more extras at this point?

I really try to remain unspoiled, but I read a few things and I am kicking myself for it. The 30ish woman who was cast has been named and she is a love interest for Derek. She is the anti-Meredith. So, it's absolutely not Dr. Hahn.

I blame you guys for making me jump on the Mark/Callie lovetrain. My God they would be hot together, and I love that already they have a good friendly foundation. Obviously I'd love to see the writers take it slow, with hopefully Hahn not being receptive to Mark and Pacey leaving quickly, leaving a Mark/Callie build towards the end of the season.

Plus I wanna see Callie parading around with her hunk of a man in front of wimpy George. Eat it, bitch.

I never warmed to Mark until this week. So he can act out of loyalty to a female friend? That's what I call giving depth to a character. Loyalty was not something I associated with Mark before but I can buy it here.
Now, he "tortured" George? He's my hero of the week.

That said, I hated that Callie called her ONS with Mark "sordid" (IIRC) and really, it's difficult for me to accept a romantic relationship once such words have been said. Of course, it was only a set-up for Callie to be humiliated by the Golden Child and Bambi...but I prefer Mark and Callie as friends.


This is an excellent reason to root for Callie/Mark.
Another one would be that his relationship with Addison never made Mark sympathetic to me. It seems his relationship with Callie does. And that's actually the main thing that makes me root for any kind of pairing (platonic or not). I just ask to like the characters better when they're together.

Works for me. Mark is very, very far from being perfect himself, but any and everything that wakes Douche Bag O'Malley up to what an incredibley unlikeable prick he has now become totally, totally works for me.

I also think that it is incredibly sweet of Mark to be 'there' for Callie in her hour of need, considering the high handed manner that she treated him with in S3. She was very, very insulting and dismissive of him and their brief S3 hookup. She was also clearly just using him for sex as she was rebounding from her supposed break up George. He as using her too, as a rebound from Ads, but it takes two to tango. She really wasn't entilted to wave the moral high ground card in his face imho, but she did anyway. He knows all this and yet he holds no grudges and is just there for her. As a friend. I love this. It makes me think much, much better of him than any of his Meredith or Derek interactions do.

I never thought she was taking the moral high ground. I don't think she was discounting her own guilt in the matter at all. She just let him know that it wasn't nice, it was dirty (it takes two for dirty, too!) and it wouldn't be happening again. Stupid girl.

Agreed. The only time I saw either mention their sex-capades to the other was when Mark came up behind her and did the whole "Yep, 3 very cheerful times" or whatever it is he said, and Callie was feeling guilty about the whole thing in the context of now George was saying all these things to her and I can see her being dismissive of the whole thing to try and move forward with George and not be sidetracked with another round of no strings attached sex (hot as I'm sure it was....)

I mean at that point, she's not friends with Addie, to her Mark is just this guy from work, known for sleeping around, who in a moment when she was lonely and hurt she turned to him and took advantage of his reputation.

I never got the impression that afterwards she had anything in particular against Mark, I just think that she was completely in love with George O'Malley and regretted the idea that she would have strayed from that because now George seemed to have chosen to pursue her again and having sex with Mark (or anyone else) jeopardized that.

That all said, here's hoping though that the next time will be cheerful and connected to an actual romantic relationship (whenever that would come into play, lord knows Callie needs to get over her divorce first) cause I've become pretty much obsessed with this pairing, they're just starting to make more and more sense, so I'm going to be sad if this doesn't happen.

AND - end of long post.

I really like their chemistry, too. ED's gotten a lot better, but there seems to be an extra spark in his scenes with SR. And Mark humiliating George for Callie was oddly sweet.

I am not sure about a full-fledged romance because that seems to take all the fun out of a couple (Example, MerDer) but I do hope we continue seeing them share lots of screentime. Though, since Mark and Callie both seem to want to kids, it might make sense (down the line) for them to look at each other that way eventually. If GA is going for 7 seasons, maybe something in Season 6?

I'm definitely supporting for Team Mallie!

As to timing of the of the hook-up...I would like it to be well paced but not teased out forever.


The Mark gets a crush, which I believe is Hahn will drag out the timing a little, but not so long as to impede such an obvious and awesome pairing, the shelf-life on that particular storyline is limited for me.

However if they did have Mark and Callie as friends for a whole year who decide to become something more, I'd totally buy it because these 2 have crazy CHEMISTRY.

I like how Mark does stuff for Callie without ulterior motivation.

I would to, it would be good to have it as a cliffhanger in the SF them moving forward to a romantic relationship. I would much rather see it build all year long, then it just be thrown together to quick. It would be nice to have a semi-normal couple on this show. I would not mind them being the ones to have that. I was always a Mark/Addison fan, never thought of him and Callie, but now I find myself really wanting them to get together.

I totally buy a relationship between Mark & Callie. They do have a connection, chemistry, whatever. I have seen nothing with regards to Hahn that would make me believe Mark would look at her as more than a fellow surgeon. Of course, it is early. But no, I can't see it. I'm all for Mallie. They can be snarky fun together.

I agree. While I'd rather Mark have a crush on Callie, I don't think this revelation will be a huge deal in the large scheme of things. I think it'll just be a road bump. I think they will definitely do something will Mark and Callie this season (if they get a whole one, that is). They must. So many signs are pointing toward that...and then there's the obvious chemistry. So, Mark's crushing on Hahn blah blah blah, and it doesn't go anywhere when he eventually realizes how he really feels about Callie, or something equally as cliche.

I'm rooting for Mark and Callie as opposite to Mark and Hahn for many reasons. One, Mark seems to care about Callie (I thought it was sweet when he promptly told her that if George was cheating on her, he was stupid), and that, IMO, would be a much better foundation for the "tamed manwhore" scenario. Two, they have already had sex, so McSteamy could very well be moving on for his next one night stand by now instead of keep flirting with Callie. Three, maybe I'm seeing what I want to see here, but during "Haunt You Every Day" he implied that he was ready to cheer her up with sex, but then on "Kung Fu Fighting" he was willing to cheer her up by torturing George just to bring a smile to her face. And last but not the least, wouldn't it be sweet if the blond, stacked super model got Bambi while the curvy girl got McSteamy? (no offense to the blondes in this forum: as far as that scene is concerned, my problem is with George, not Izzie)

That is exactly it. I can just see these two huddling around the hospital, making inside jokes and having fun watching the other playmates bite each other in the sand box. They seem to have their own groove that works very well for them. I really hope the writers take it that direction - but I agree with all that think that it will have to go slowly for it to be both palitable and believable.

I do believe that would be divine comeuppance for the twin bambis, especially Georgie Porgie Puddin' and Pie. He's got a real inferiority complex about men like McSteamy and Alex, so Callie hooking up with one of them would be a huge blow to his ego - a reverse of what he did to Callie with "blond stacked" barbie - er bambi

I'm so glad that Hahn didn't respond to Mark's advances. Hopefully that'll be the end of that.

I like the soft, friendly and loyal side of Mark that comes out when Callie is around. Honestly, it's not like he's a bad guy. It's not like he needs someone like Hahn to tame him down like a dog. I can see her standing over him with a newspaper, hitting him on the nose and saying, "no! NO!" Whereas Callie doesn't have to do anything to bring out his good side. He's just naturally a great guy around her. That scene where he tells her "you're not okay" gets me every time.

And I like what Mark does for Callie. Whereas George stripped her of her confidence, Mark seems to triple it. He makes her feel beautiful and sexy whereas George made her feel like she wasn't quite good enough. I'd like to see Callie hanging out with Mark some more, for them to become really good friends and eventually see something more. I love the people they become when they're around each other.

I agree, LillyWhite. I think they bring out the best in each other without even trying. George never did that for Callie. Never made her feel like she was worth it. And I think that around Mark, it's just easy for her to feel like the beautiful badass that she is. I can't wait for more scenes between them.

I'm totally onboard with Mark and Callie. My reasons are similar to what everyone has said: the hotness would be off the charts, they would be great for each other otherwise, the characters and the actors have great chemistry, it would be nice for the curvy girl to the guy on tv (this does happen in real life also tv writers). Also, I've never been into Meredith and Derek. Don't love or hate them - their just Meh! Mark and Callie would be the only relationship I feel strongly about!

Thank God I'm not the only one who feels this way! MerDer does nothing for me. Mark and Callie would keep me watching. They have the chemistry, the connection, the passion, the friendship, and any good writer could also fling some realistic issues in there if they felt that was needed. I never felt the Mark/Addison relationship, either. I don't know. Like I said above, he doesn't need to make himself change with Callie. She just naturally brings out his good side.

I'd also love to see George's reaction, because I get the feeling he'll come back to Callie to beg her to take him back. And by then I hope Callie's happy with Mark and tells George to fuck off.