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Well Bob sure seemed happy to see her. BarbieKim-not so much. LOL

Damn that was exciting when the red and blue teams came in and the black team was standing there. Loved the look on Jillians face lol.

Go Black Team!! :))

It is wrong that I went "Awww!" when Bob and Jillian were reunited?

Not a big surprise for Lezley, but I missed how much weight she's lost since she got booted.

Wow. I thought the Blue Team would win when they kept playing up the "first team to win the first two weigh-ins" angle. I'm pleasantly surprised that it wasn't true. Bill and Jim were definitely the heroes of the day.

I guess loser edits really don't exist -- I'd thought Amy was going home, but Lezlye did, instead. Good maneuvering she did after her meltdown.

GO, BLACK TEAM!


She's lost fifty-five pounds so far -- twelve on the campus, forty-three at home.

Yay! Both of my wishes came true tonight - the Black team had a great weigh in and Lezlye's gone! The blurb at the end said she's lost 55 pounds or so total and she's raising a complete mama's boy.

Hey, do you think the Black Team might have not gotten picked sometime or something? I think I heard them mention something about how the other teams didn't want them. But they were so subtle about their inference, I'm not sure.

I was in the other room when this happened, so I'm not sure who exactly said it, but one of the women on this show just shot up to #1 Hate Spot for me. It was whoever said she wanted to live to see her sons' college graduations and her daughters' weddings. What, her daughters can't go to college?

But it's okay, because I needed someone new to hate, and I'll enjoy finding out who it is. Someone needed to fill the hating void left by Lezlye. I mean, I knew she wasn't going to last long, but I felt sure her whiny victimhood would survive to torture me for at least a few more episodes, because television is cruel like that. So that was a pleasant surprise. Good riddance! Actually, is there anybody worth liking on the Red Team? Maybe they'll pull an Ulong and all go away.

Who I DO like: Isabeau, Kae (they seem to have the best attitudes and personalities out of all of the women), Old!Jerry, and Jez (whom I think is going to be kind of hot when he loses 100 pounds and that bandanna).

Meh: Twins, that one lady, that other lady, a bunch of other folks. There are too many people on this show, despite the third team twist (and Jillian's return) being very good so far.

Good thing the Black team won or that twist would have been a bust. Why do they have to go topless and barefoot to the fake scale? I don't need the visual on the men nor the thought of them all getting raging cases of athletes foot.

That was Patty on the Blue Team. I'm sure she thought her daughters would graduate, too. I think she just said the first thing that came to her head.

You know, the whiny crying babies really piss me off!

[/rant] These people KNOW that it's not going to be a walk in the park. You know going in that you are leaving your family, friends, kids. Walking out of a last chance workout should mean you automatically go home. I would have ripped Amy a new one and voted for her to leave. There are thousands that would love to be on this show and have a chance to get their life back. Don't come on my tv and whine your ass off. I'm not a fan of Kim, but good for for basically telling the girls to STFU! [/end rant]

I know what they are going through. I've lost 150lbs(story in personal weight thread)busting my ass. Did it suck at times, yep. So worth it in the end and it does get better. Yeah, I didn't have to leave anyone, but again, you know it going in. I would be all over anyone who walked out on my team!

I love me some Bob, but Jillian rocks the boat! I loved her reunion with Bob and I can't wait to see their interaction through the rest of the episodes. I don't like Kim, I don't think her workouts are as powerful as Bob and Jillian and weight loss totals show it.

Great episode tonight!

PS..Was happy to hear Lezlye say Katrina was in the past, that's where it is. Glad to see she stopped dwelling on it and was able to move on. Good for her on the 55lbs. Hope she keeps it up.

Amy should have been the one to go home:

• she lost the least weight
• she left the workout

Lezlye and her son seem icky to me for some reason.

So did anyone else catch Lezley and Amy snickering when one of the women on the Black Team only lost two pounds? It's always satisfying when someone flashes their bitch pants on national television and then gets called on it karmically.

Jerry lost 41 pounds in two weeks? Sorry but I'm not buying it for a second. I think this show is rigged. No way in hell does someone lose that much weight in just two weeks unless they're very ill.

I have to disagree...from the challenge segment when Sami told the red team that one of their players had to sit out the challenge ...and Lezlye replied that they decided she was the one to sit out because "I don't want to do it" sealed the deal for me. She was the one to rightfully go home IMO

Once again though, its women who are voted off. I bet the same thing happens when the black and the blue team go to elimination. In the end we might be lucky to have one women left. They tried the men vs woman and that did not work previously. Maybe they need 4 teams, with 2 women teams and 2 men teams and then one man and one woman get voted off until they are down X players.

That was the moment I started to hope their team would lose and she'd be kicked to the curb. I also wanted her gone for the stupid name spelling alone.

I know it's not a rule but when the team that is doing the voting off of a team member comes down to the dining room they usually try to wear clothes with the color of their team. Last week it seemed that the red team managed to wear 'reddish' colored clothes. This week not so much. I think only B wore any red to the voting off ceremony.

I wished it had been a 2-2-1 tie between Phil-Lez-Amy. Who would be the tie breaker? In previous seasons the other team got together and picked someone, but this year they had two other teams, just wondering what the rules would have been in that case. We may never know.

I also agree that it should've been Amy to go.

First, I was totally pissed at Amy the entire episode. WTF? You're so upset about being away from your kids and home that you leave your team hanging at the last chance workout?! And THEN when it comes time to vote someone off you scramble around trying to form alliances and sway other people's voting? Either you want to leave or you don't and if you don't, prove it on the scale not in some secret alliance! Agh!

Based on that I totally thought that Amy was going to be voted out, but in some sense it made sense that the guys would keep her. They needed to get rid of one girl to break up the alliance, and at that point you can afford to keep the least motivated one around. She probably won't make it long term.

Second, I actually felt sorry for Kim this week getting such whiny women to work with. You're there for a reason! Think about all the other finalists that didn't make it and would love to be in your place. Suck it up!

Last, love love love Jerry and Kae. They both put so much out there--I'm worried about Kae making it to the end though. She's already lost so much weight!

I was so happy for the Black team. They have been working hard without the benefits of the gym and it showed. I was actually proud of Julie. She has only lost 5 pounds but you can see her working at it and not giving up. She was not whining or crying. She worked hard and gave it her best. Same for Hollie. "I can stop or I can do three more. Do three more". The weight lose might not have been great this week but they are both going to have good weeks in the near future.

I was so happy to see Lezlye go home. She annoyed the hell out of me.

Loved the Bob/Jillian reunion. That was wonderful. They were happy to see each other and Bob knew he was in for some serious trouble.

Sooner or later they are going to have to hold double eliminations. I wonder if that starts next week.

And I like the silly little info quizzes they have. Slightly dorky but still a nice touch.

I think Amy and Lezlye noticed it, too. They must've seen the Blue Team men last season vote off all their women back to back and wanted to try and avoid it by trying to get David on their side. Sadly (for them), that didn't happen.

Is it wrong that I almost felt sorry for Kim this week? The "I-me-mine" count seemed pretty high, so I was ready for hatin', but she looked so pathetic during the weigh-in. Aw. I'm sad that she's a hag.

Then again she could've stopped her own complaining about who was going to get blamed if the Red Team lost and 'sucked it up' like she wanted her team to do. Guess what, Kim? I do blame you. Maybe if you'd tried to encourage your team like Bob and Jillian did instead of haranguing them until they had to leave the room they might have worked a little harder.

Speaking of Jillian, there she is! That's the inspirational gal I was hoping to see! And what a sweetie Bob was to stop and talk to someone from the other team when she was down.

By the way...Kae rocks.

May I just add that I have a major girl crush on Jillian? That bitch (said with total love) can whip my ass into shape any day.
I don't have far to go, but I've been slacking. Time to bust her DVD's on Friday, when I actually have an hour to work out.

I assume Bob love is, well, assumed. :-) He's so damn Zen.

Two episodes in and I think this show is totally rocking this season. I love the Black Team twist.

Don't you just love Bob? (I'm sure there's SOMEone out there who doesn't -- law of averages, but...) He was so sweet when he went over to Amy and, competition be damned, offered her the encouragement and support she needed.

That said, Amy should have been the one to leave tonight, as others have pointed out. The only thing I was happy about is that she didn't get Lezlye to vote for Phil with the girlz vs. boys argument and then turn around and vote for Lezlye herself. (That actually surprised me.)

I so agree with you, Melvis. Encouragement will take people so much further (Farther? Just had a Finding Forrester moment) than daring them to "quit, OK, quit if you want to." Bob seems so incredibly invested in his team members' success. I love the way he tears up when someone does really well. Kim? Not so much. I'm not sure what her motivation is -- other than money and fame, of course -- but she sure doesn't seem to be taking her team's journey to heart.

I didn't tune in last season (or maybe even the one before), so I'm going to have to hunt around this newly expanded thread to try and figure out a) why Jillian is considered to be such a badass and a rebel and b) why she left the show in the first place. Also wondering why we have a new host this season (who, BTW, I think is doing a great job so far). If anyone would care to point me in the right direction, I'd be grateful.

I was very afraid that my big hunk of sexy Phil would get voted off. Good for David not buying into the alliance business. Lezlye (WTF?) said Phil had the lowest body fat percentage. That doesn't seem possible with him being nearly 400 lbs, yet he's not rockin' the moobs like a lot of the other guys. I'm glad to see Lezlye go, her comment about not wanting to do the challenge sealed the deal for me. Amy is a whiner, but she is from my hometown so I'm rooting for her until she's voted off.

What's up with Ryan having "abnormal lab values", so he's unable to participate in the challenge? What's wrong with him?? I wonder if he was having symptoms, or if they get blood work done on a regular basis. I'm guessing his electrolytes were all out of whack.

Jillian's batshit crazy, but she could beat me into shape any day. The black team being revealed was hokey and contrived, but I loved every minute of it! Jillian can work the satisified smerk with the best of them.

When Lezlye said, "I didn't want to do it" regarding the challenge, I thought she was saying she didn't want to sit out. I didn't record it though, so I can't go back and check. But because I though that's what she meant, it didn't annoy me.

Nope, I said Awww, yeah! as well. I love me some Jillian...and I also love Bob. They both seem to really care about how their teams do--I don't understand Kim's appeal as a trainer. Maybe she's not my style of coach, but I don't think she's as motivating as the other two.

So I hate Kim, but I'll admit that I had a twinge of sympathy for her during the weigh-in. Her tiny little golf-claps for the other teams were pretty hilarious though. Everyone else seems genuinely happy when someone loses weight (even if they are competing against them), but Kim just comes across like she's disgusted. She also looked like she got punched in the stomach when she saw Jillian standing there.

I can't stand Phil. I knew why while watching the episode, but I've since forgotten. I think it may have been him acting like a complete ass during the weigh-in, and interviewing that they've "created a family" there at the ranch. The fact that he was trying to stare Jez down also annoyed me. So yea, hope he goes home eventually.

And I've found that there's no one on the Red Team that I care about. Should they all go home, I'll be perfectly fine with that. Is there a way to just completely eliminate Red now and allow Blue and Black to duke it out? It'd be like we were getting back to basics with Bob and Jillian. Yea, that's the ticket!

Yeah I'm not sure I'm buying it either, unless he was retaining a hell of a lot of water or something.

I also love Bob. :)

Yeah, I caught that too. I think it was when Hollie from the black team weighed in and only lost 3 lbs (or something like that). When Alison asked her how she felt, Hollie said that she was surprised because it felt like she had lost more weight. And for some weird reason, Amy and Lezlye found that hilarious. Fucking bitches. I'm so glad they got their comeuppance and stupid Lezlye (L-e-z-l-y-e? Really? C'mon...) got sent home. I would have rather seen Amy go home (walked out of a last chance workout and campaigned against Lezlye even after forming an alliance with her AND admitting that she wanted to go home) but I'm satisfied knowing that Amy will most likely go home next on her team. Although I do feel bad for the guys on the red team because their morale must be shot to hell after losing two weeks in a row and they still have dead-weight-bad-attitude Amy to contend with.

And...I agree with a lot of the posts here:

1. The Bob and Jillian reunion was awesome. I loved it even more than seeing everyone else meet the black team. Is it bad that I just want to ship them? I don't care if one or both of them are married. They should get together and have crazy good looking babies.

2. Kae is so cute. Of all the women, she's definitely the one I'd root for to win.

Just checked out this episode, and I loved the introduction of the black team. Nice to see that they upped the ante after the "homies" were allowed to return last season, but have the bricks stacked against them to stay. Jillian rocks -- I missed the seasons that she was on. Kim doesn't have a motivational clue -- Bob would have been all over her and talking her back into the workout. I think she's going to get her butt kicked.

I think the "weeks" on this show are actually longer than 7 days, which explains the high numbers. I'm ok with it.

I wish we knew how long the time periods actually were between weigh-ins. I agree with everyone that 41 lbs in 2 weeks is just nuts. He has to be losing major muscle as well if this is actually a 14 day period.

I wish they would focus more on the nutritional aspect during the show since that plays a major part in any health program.
More so than just a plug for Jenni-O turkey at least.

I like Bryan, and that's it.

Isn't he the one who told the departing Leyzylyey that if she ever needs anything to look him up and he'll be there (if he's available). I thought that was an odd thing to say. If he's available? If it's convenient for him, he'll be there girl - no worries.

Nope, there's nobody on that red team I like.

I was very disappointed that Amy wasn't sent home. You just don't walk out of a workout, especially when you have been harped at all week for not giving it your all. And ESPECIALLY when it is obvious that you are slacking, since Kim can track via Bodybugg. Which I find interesting and creepy, but probably effective.

I hate that "play the game" crap. I wish this show could somehow be all about the exercise, weight loss, and lifestyle change without having to get into alliances. That makes me want to turn the show off prior to the vote off. But, oh, well. It is reality TV.

Jillian -- I was SO EXCITED when the black team won. I wonder about their lower numbers during the time before they showed up. Perhaps it is because the contestants can't afford to get dehydrated in Mojave, and the ways to switch it up are probably more limited. That makes me suspicious about waterloading and how much of that startling weight loss at the campus is fake.

Meanwhile, can I say, ass to grass squats and lunges on the beach SUCK ASS. But I'd love to work out at the beach.

I wanted to like Kim, because I chat with people on a weightlifting board that know her and say she's nice in person. But clearly she's not entirely practiced in figuring out what motivates people, because yelling at Amy didn't help. It made her resolve to quit worse. Bob's listening put her back on track. I still thought she was waaay to "me me me" oriented.

I've been suspicious of the "weeks" also, but I'm going to take them at their word when then had that countdown clock to the black team's return to the campus as a 14-day countdown clock. So it has been 14 days since the original weigh-in.

This season's week 2 weigh-in showed the (IMO) smallest week 2 loss to date. The only thing that saved the week was the numbers the black team put up. Blue and ESPECIALLY red team's numbers were pathetic.

In the next week's TV Guide I got in the mail they had next Tuesday's episode as a 90-minute ep. But last night's preview said next week is another TWO HOUR episode. I wonder why the change?

I believe it's 2 or 3 weeks before the very 1st weigh-in. I know for sure that it's not only one week. I'm thinking maybe that they don't say how long so that people at home trying to lose weight don't give up when they don't lose 21lbs in 2 or 3 weeks. I know that during my weight loss, I had a couple times where I lost 10lbs in a week and I wasn't ill or starving. One of those weeks was when we were moving into our house. I didn't think running up and down stairs packing, and carrying boxes would do much, but I guess it did.


I'm with ya. My dream would be to work out with Jillian and Bob. I was totally rootin' for the black team. I think it's great they came in with no "gym" equipment and kicked ass. I loved it when one of the girls(can't remember who)on the black team talked about how carrying sandbags up the mountains was worth it. Kinda showed the other teams what the black team was up to in the desert.

I want it to come down to Bob and Jillian in the end, but don't know who I would want to win more.


WordMcWordyWord!

I really hope we get Jillian on Biggest Loser 4, if there is one. I don't want her to leave my tv...

How much do I love Bob? How much does Jillian, and her Team rock? Trainer Kim, and her whole Team can kiss my ass! Except Bryan, I think he's kinda cool. The Red girls or should I say girl, heh, are complete whiners. Yeah, it's tough. Yeah, you're away from your family. So is everybody else and they're sucking it up!

So glad Lezlye is history. Everything she said was total bitchface. Now, if only Trainer Kim could be eliminated, that would rock!

I was torn between wanting Lezlye and Amy gone. But Lezlye tipped the balance when 1) she said she sat out the challenge because she didn't want to do it and 2) as soon as she knew the Red Team was going to have to eliminate a player, she started bringing up Katrina again. That said, Amy was right, with Lezlye gone, she's the next to go, so we won't have to listen to her bad attitude for much longer.

I was shocked by the small numbers the guys on the red team put up - I agree that the second week loss would naturally be smaller than week one, but those numbers were pitiful - I do better at Weight Watchers without working out 6-8 hours a day.

Love my Bob, though. When he stopped to encourage Amy and used exactly the right words to motivate her - I yelled at the TV screen - "Marry Me, Bob!"

I don't have a problem with Amy or Lezlye being the targets this week. Kim stated that the men were working a great deal harder then the women. The women were shown being chewed out for not working hard enough. Amy walked out on a work out and Lezlye was not running when told to. When Kim went to show her why moving her arms was important all Lezlye could do was make faces. And she sat out the challenge because she was lazy. So I did not read the voting of a women as anything other then trying to remove people who were not working hard and in doing so were hurting the teams chances of winning a weigh in.

If Black had lost you know Julie would have been targeted, she has only lost 5 pounds, or Mollie, she only lost 2 pounds that week. I don't think that for either one of them it was due to lack of effort but I do think that their lack of weight loss would have made them the target.

I do think some of the smaller numbers for the black team was due to the fact that they were working out outdoors and were probably drinking more liquids then the other teams. My money is on having a team win back to back weigh ins next week and it will be the black team with huge numbers. Red will lose a third time and that Amy will have gone on a food binge because of beign home sick.

I admit that last season, it wasn't until her meltdown on the cruise ship that Heather even appeared on my radar as the truly heinous individual that she is. I don't recall the exact moment that Kai and to a degree, Pam hit the radar, but by then it was too late. Failure to remove these tumors in the early stages unleashed untold pain and suffering on an entire nation. This season, the cuts are surgically swift and precise; Lezlye this week, Old Blue Eyes next week. It has to be this way. Yes, they’re whiny, but there’s also an undercurrent of potential evil that must be taken seriously.

Did anyone else catch Kim biting the hand that she force-fed us last year? I clearly heard her speak about Jell-O (Of last year's $250,000 Jell-O Grand Prize fame.) in less than an adoring fashion. The mere suggestion that Jell-O could ever be an inappropriate food choice would've been grounds for immediate dismissal. Additionally, there's no way that the comment would've made it to prime time television. But wait... Before I knew what hit me, there she was force-feeding Jennie-O Turkey down Phil's throat. I'm stunned that she didn't throw in some Nabisco 100 Calorie Packs (Of this year's $250,000 Nabisco 100 Calorie Packs Grand Prize fame.) for desert. "It's okay, you can eat 15 to 18 bags of these a day, but if you reach for a 19th bag, your Bodybugg will pick up the nearest phone and tell me all about it".

Jell-O = Bad
Jennie-O, Bodybugg and Nabisco = Good
Penta Water = ?
Jillian = All is well again. Countdown to Kim’s inevitable demise can officially begin.

I don't have a problem with Amy staying - it seemed she was more motivated after her talk with....Bob. If anything, that proves what a crappy trainer Kim is. Kim telling them to get over themselves and quit was nothing more than KIM throwing a temper tantrum because she can't figure out how to properly motivate anyone wearing a sports bra.

Look at the difference between how Kim treated Amy and how Jillian treated Hollie when she said she wanted to quit. World of difference. It's the reason people want to be on Jillian's team despite the beatings. They know she cares about them and wanting their well-being. (Same for Bob), Kim just wants to look good on national TV.

I thought this episode got REALLY tedious. I don't know how many more "You're an outcast" clips of the black team we really needed to see. Yeah Yeah we get it - Kim is in over her head, Amy's commitment is flagging, Lezlye (don't you just hate the fancy name spellings?) has an attitude, the black team are rejects and they're mad as hell.

I think an hour would have been plenty of time to hammer home the themes of the week. Luckily, I recorded it and could fast forward through the more tedious parts.

Using an entire hour for a weigh in was completely ridiculous. I loved the desert weigh in, no shifting numbers or stupid music, just the weight. What a concept!!

I was wondering about this too. And what about her sons' weddings? Is she thinking that they're going to get married at all, or will they just be momma's boys forever? Just wondering...

I really wanted Lezley to go home after she made the comments about not wanting to do the stairs and not thinking her team would be able to make it to the top. Good for the red team for winning in spite of her awful attitude and for letting her go at the end! While Amy's walking out on the workout was kind of a whiny thing to do, I think Amy deserved to stay over Lezley.

I really wanted to like Kim better this week, especially since she was stuck with some whiny women, but I didn't. She just has no motivational skills. Period.

I fell in love with trainer Bob a little more, especially when I saw how sweet he was to Amy. Awwwwww. And I am beyond thrilled with the victory of Jillian's black team!!

I hated how the black team was giving the other team such fake intimidating looks. I don't remember the captains not choosing someone based on personal reasons, and they were allowed to only choose a certain number of contestants. I like the idea of the black team, but I'd prefer if it wasn't such an "us vs. them" attitude between them.

I know it's competitive reality, but I wish the focus was more on weight loss and less on "revenge". That's why I love Bob so much. Sure, he wants Blue to win and not be eliminated, but he's not a jerk to everyone else.

The black team won, not because they did such a good job (they didn't). Its because the other teams did such a horrible job. Most of the women only lost 2 pounds. Hell, they could have done that at home. I'm loving the editing thats going down on this show. They are portraying the Black team as a band of misfits when, in fact, the two team leaders could only pick 5 people each. Remember that these people are all strangers to each other and they are all fat so there isn't any reason to label these people who didn't get picked as misfits.

I think Jillian is using the rejects thing as an additional motivator for her team. I think of it as bulletin board material and only that. I think that the Black Team was hurt by not being selected for the other teams but that they know it was not personal. That will not stop them from using it to motivate them. They are feeling like crap due to long work outs and a massive diet change. They are homeick. They are looking for any motiviation, beyond the obvious, to keep pushing themselves. They have a convient motivation placed in front of them. They were not selected. Prove to the others that they were wrong in not choosing them.

I saw a few folks on the Red and Blue team try and say that the Black Team didn't belong there but it struck me as pretty weak. I was glad to see that the other teams are not that put off by the Black Team.

What I heard was that it was a poor choice for a meal item along with whatever else Phil had chosen to make himself for lunch (I can't remember what that actually was).

So annoyed..... I only saw the weigh in! I was taping it at home, but for some reason it didn't work! I got to the gym as they were all weighing in and I watched that part (but it was after the reveal).

One thing I noticed is that Kim never seems happy when the other team loses weight. I get that it's a competition, but Bob always seems to cheer in appreciation of competitors who lose a lot, even if it hurts his teams' chances of winning. I noticed this about some competitors as well. Some are much more supportive of the other team than others. But it annoys me more when it comes from a trainer.

I think he was eating string cheese, jello, and it looked like a snack pack of some sort. Essentially he was snacking.

Oh, I know! I couldn't watch this show without Tivo. It's much more bearable to fast forward through portions of it.