Sars
Sep 12, 2007 @ 4:08 pm
Nielseny!
Featherhat
Sep 13, 2007 @ 7:00 am
No doubt this is The CW's chance for a big it (relatively speaking). I think it has a decent chance of pulling good numbers. The books are very popular, there has been quite a lot of media coverage, it on after ANTM, the best show they could pair it with at this point, with lots of overlap in demos.
Bionic Woman probably won't be too much of a problem for it, skewing older and more male, but "Private Practice" might skim off the older teens/early 20's who might otherwise have watched this. What do the other networks have against this?
shalia17
Sep 13, 2007 @ 11:46 am
I hope the show does well the first ten minutes really pulled me in.
Ran
Sep 13, 2007 @ 12:11 pm
Bionic Woman will be up against it on NBC. They're promoting it like crazy, as is ABC with Private Practice, but both of those shows could skew older, and BW seems to be aimed more at young men, so...
I hope Gossip Girl will find a niche with fans of the books, fans of The O.C., and people like me who just loooove shows about high school!
amphora
Sep 15, 2007 @ 11:58 pm
Series Premiere: Wed, Sept. 19 (9/8c).
Thought I post here in case anyone else missed the memo. All the commercials I've seen say something along the lines of "check your local listings" (which do people even do that anymore? Like in the newspaper or something? Do people still buy tv guide?) so I had to actually go check the CW site. And, wow, after seeing their fall line-up they better pray this show catches on because their schedule appears to be a ratings black hole in the making.
hellosunshine24
Sep 16, 2007 @ 4:48 pm
I'm not really that concerned about Gossip Girl being on at the same time as Private Practice. Because one, I feel like this show has gotten a lot more buzz than Private Practice has, and two, I feel like it has a stronger lead in. ANTM almost always wins in their key demographic, and it shares the same demo as Gossip Girl does, so I think that Gossip Girl has a pretty strong chance of doing well in the ratings. Plus, a lot of Grey's fans were turned off from the show last year because of the direction Shonda went in with the show last year, so people might be less apt to turn into Private Practice because they were unhappy with GA last year.
Ali Kat
Sep 18, 2007 @ 9:08 am
For Canadians, CTV will be playing the show Tuesdays at 8:00. So the premiere is tonight. This is kind of like how they used to play the OC a day early. I love Canada :)
4GED
Sep 18, 2007 @ 9:29 am
I loved the GA/PP episode and want to see more of it, and while The OC never did anything for me (could not even watch an entire episode) This show intrigues me a lot. I guess that is when you can say "thank god for DVRs". I think what draws me in more about this show than The OC is the setting, I have never really been a fan of shows set in CA (with the exception of Popular), whereas shows set in NY or anywhere else that has for seasons are more appealing to me. And I loved Cruel Intention so I get the same vibe from this.
Hey Shal.
shalia17
Sep 18, 2007 @ 3:19 pm
Hey Geddy, Hmm maybe I'll put the Meet Market to use for the first time ever lol.
Hallelujah
Sep 19, 2007 @ 9:55 pm
Plus, a lot of Grey's fans were turned off from the show last year because of the direction Shonda went in with the show last year, so people might be less apt to turn into Private Practice because they were unhappy with GA last year.
I'm not a GA fan, but isn't Kate Walsh/Addison a really well-liked character? Like, compared to Izzie and Meredith? Plus, there's always intrigue with shows like that. Just like I'm sure a lot of OC fans checked out GG because of the Schwartz factor, I'm sure a lot of GA fans will check out PP for the Grey's factor. Does anyone know what ABC is putting before PP? I agree that ANTM is a great lead-in for GG. For a smaller network like The CW, they scheduled ANTM and GG really well.
hellosunshine24
Sep 19, 2007 @ 10:01 pm
Addison is well-liked by the critics and here on TWoP, but if you ask most people around you, they would probably list Izzie or Meredith or George as their favorite character. Not Addison.. or at least that's what I have discovered. Addison is definitely my favorite character, along with a lot of people here at TWoP, but I always have to try to remember that TWoP does not represent every viewer of every TV show. Another example of this is TWoP's hate for Marissa Cooper/Mischa Barton.. for a lot of other people who watched The OC, Marissa/Mischa was the reason they even watched the show.
And I think before Private Practice is Pushing Daisies, which has had a lot of buzz, but not as much as this show has.
Suburban Knight
Sep 20, 2007 @ 10:27 am
Pilot ratings:
More disappointing for the CW was the premiere of lead-out Gossip Girl (a Mr. TV pick) at a last-place 2.9/ 5 from 9-10 p.m. Comparably, that put retention for Gossip Girl out of Top Model at just 71 percent. As I always say, never judge any series by its first telecast. Was Beverly Hills, 90210 on Fox a hit from the get-go? No!
hellosunshine24
Sep 20, 2007 @ 11:13 am
Okay, so maybe I was wrong and PP really will kill this show in the ratings. Now I'm kinda nervous.
So what is 2.9/5, like 3 or 4 million?
minneapple
Sep 20, 2007 @ 11:14 am
More from Berman -- 2.9/5 is 3.65 million. Not horrible, but the retention rate is key and that was only 71 percent out of Top Model. The demo is also pretty disappointing. I wonder how it did in the 12-34 demo (which Berman doesn't report on).
But disappointing for the CW was the premiere of lead-out Gossip Girl (a Mr. TV pick) at a last-place 3.65 million viewers and a 1.7/ 4 among adults 18-49 from 9-10 p.m.
hellosunshine24
Sep 20, 2007 @ 11:18 am
That's average for a CW show though, I suppose (except for ANTM). I did think it would do better though, with the ANTM lead-in and all the promotion and media coverage the show was getting. Oh well, perhaps it will do better as the show goes on..
tinker bell
Sep 20, 2007 @ 11:19 am
Has anyone heard if they'll be streaming the episodes online at the CW's site? That could defintely help build up its fan base.
minneapple
Sep 20, 2007 @ 11:38 am
I'm also interested to see the DVR numbers for this show. CW shows usually do very well in the DVR data. The final Nielsen numbers should look better.
ScrappyTheOwl
Sep 20, 2007 @ 12:34 pm
DVR viewing by 3am is included, finals don't include any more of it (finals mostly reflect errors - such as preemptions where viewers for a game were included in a show's numbers). Numbers reflecting DVR viewings within 3 and 7 days (LIVE + 3, LIVE +7) is available to the networks, but you'll rarely see it in the media or released by Nielsen.
UniqBlue69
Sep 20, 2007 @ 1:06 pm
Very disappointing. Comparably, One Tree Hill's fourth season opened with a similar 3.64 million viewers and a 1.7/5 in the demo one year earlier. This show had the biggest promotional push and a pre-existing fanbase from the book series. I think it's my residual love for the WB that makes me care and want to see The CW do well, but I think it's a lost cause.
I think they either need to abandon their strategy of programming for teens (do we need another teen network when there's already a few courting that demo) or just scrap the network all together. Maybe I'm being too alarmist but a show that had this much hype (I couldn't escape the ads, especially on Myspace) should've been able to top at least 4.5 million easily. Young people (or any for that matter) just don't care for this network.
Featherhat
Sep 20, 2007 @ 2:43 pm
I think they either need to abandon their strategy of programming for teens (do we need another teen network when there's already a few courting that demo) or just scrap the network all together. Maybe I'm being too alarmist but a show that had this much hype (I couldn't escape the ads, especially on Myspace) should've been able to top at least 4.5 million easily. Young people (or any for that matter) just don't care for this network.
I read a couple pieces last year that said many of the age range that used to watch the WB shows in their heydays now watch more "grown up" dramedies like Greys, Desperate Housewives, LOST (not a dramedy but still) in huge numbers rather than shows purely orientated at teens, and high school shows are watched by a lower age boundary than previously. It would make sense because of the pityful numbers this network is pulling for many shows on a strict teen/highscool show demographic. I was expected at least over 4 million given the advertising and massive popularity of the books. Oh well I'm sure this will be one of the last in the season to be cancelled if it has to come to that since they are so desperate.
EMOjunky
Sep 20, 2007 @ 2:47 pm
I don't know, maybe I'm just used to seeing low numbers in connection with CW shows - but this is really all I think they can expect right now. If you compare it to most of the other shows on the network - except Top Model - that's sadly a pretty good number for the network. Even Smallville at the end of the season last year wasn't even making 4 million any more last year. I don't know what the CW needs to do to get higher numbers - bc right now - for the CW - anything over 3.5 million - is a high number!
SassandtheCity
Sep 20, 2007 @ 2:48 pm
I sense that this show may be a show that grows over a season. If I remember correctly, The OC was considered a bit underwhelming after the pilot aired but caught on eventually its first season.
hellosunshine24
Sep 20, 2007 @ 3:01 pm
The OC's ratings were pretty good though, for a show considered a "teen" show. Weren't they getting 10 million and up in their first season?
SassandtheCity
Sep 20, 2007 @ 3:03 pm
I just remember the day after the ratings came in, a lot of the media were like, "An underwhelming beginning for the much talked about show." I doubt Gossip Girl will ever reach even the bad OC numbers but that's because they are stuck on CW.
lilarose6
Sep 20, 2007 @ 3:25 pm
I don't know. I've talked to a few people who were pretty underwhelmed by the pilot and the characters. I turned it off myself. Something that's been advertised as heavily as Gossip Girl with a compatible lead in like Top Model, and is bright, shiny, and new, should have performed better. TPTB can't be pleased at those numbers.
jazzbee
Sep 20, 2007 @ 5:54 pm
Final Nationals are in and they are even lower. Ouch!
Gossip Girl (series premiere)
- 3.504 million viewers
- 2.3/4 HH
- 1.6/4 A18-49
- 2.1/6 A18-34
Retention out of ANTM is 67% (viewers), 72% (HH), 64% (A18-49) and 72% (A18-34) respectively. Those are not very good either.
mustbekarma
Sep 20, 2007 @ 7:28 pm
The pilot was also up against the premiere of Gordon Ramsey's Kitchen Nightmares on Fox. I watched that, but I have multiple CW networks, so I tuned in an hour later for Gossip Girl. Like lilarose6, I turned it off. I lasted about 25 minutes; I found the voiceovers referring to the characters as initials just too damn annoying, and the story just didn't grab my interest.
Now I have to investigate the competition's ratings.
Mia Nina
Sep 20, 2007 @ 10:04 pm
I do wonder how effective is for them to only focus on teenagers. I'm 23 now, but when I was a teen I would live for watching tv. So did all my friends. But now, the teens I know don't watch tv. They just don't.
TheSpeculum02
Sep 21, 2007 @ 5:43 am
The CW were hinging so much faith on this show, I'm sure TBTP are quietly freaking out.
Veronica Mars premiered it's debut episode on the CW last year when the network was barely known to a respectable 3.4 million viewers. I remember Rob Thomas at the time reporting that Dawn and co. had let him know those numbers were "passable".
3.5 million viewers for a new, premiere show that has been advertised in a plethora of ways for months isn't the best sign. The demo's also do not look so hot.
The thing about this year is that it is supposed to be the one that the CW "break through." As it stands '3.5 million viewers', for a network which combined both the WB and UPN that appears to have an average worse viewership then either former net... is not a good sign.
Let's just hope that the ratings improve rather then dwindle. Because I like this show.
goldentail
Sep 21, 2007 @ 6:33 am
Let's just hope that the ratings improve rather then dwindle.
I thought this show would attract more viewers even if just for the pilot episode because of the hype. I wasn't planning to watch it but am really curious about how it will do.
Considering two more very hyped shows will be premiering next week (Bionic Woman & Private Practice), it might be a tougher draw for this show.
TWoP Bayliss
Sep 21, 2007 @ 1:14 pm
From a CW press release this AM:
- THE CW'S NEW DRAMA "GOSSIP GIRL" WINS ITS TARGET DEMOS OF WOMEN 18-34, TEENS AND FEMALE TEENS
- GOSSIP GIRL Improves the Time Period Over Year Ago In Key Demos
- GOSSIP GIRL Retains More Viewers in Target Demos Than Any Show to Premiere Following AMERICA'S NEXT TOP MODEL
- TOP MODEL and GOSSIP GIRL Premieres Combine to Give The CW Wednesday Win in Adults 18-34, Women 18-34 and Teens
- TOP MODEL Tops Tough Competition in Adults 18-34, Women 18-34 and Teen Demos
- The CW Affiliates Win Wednesday in Target Demos in Top Markets, including New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Philadelphia, San Francisco, Washington, D.C. and Detroit
September 20, 2007 (Burbank, CA) - The CW's new sensation, GOSSIP GIRL, premiered last night, winning the 9-10:00p.m. hour in the show's target demos of women 18-34, teens (2.9/10) and female teens, according to preliminary live plus same day Nielsen ratings for Wednesday, Sept. 19, 2007.
GOSSIP GIRL outperformed last season's premiere of "One Tree Hill" in adults 18-34 (2.2/7, +5%), women 18-34 (3.3/9, +14%), women 18-49 (2.3/6, +5%) and female teens (5.3/17, +56%).
GOSSIP GIRL also retained more of the adults 18-34 (79%) and women 18-34 (79%) audience than any show to premiere following AMERICA'S NEXT TOP MODEL ever. GOSSIP GIRL also retained 93% of TOP MODEL's female teen audience.
Overall, the premieres of TOP MODEL and GOSSIP GIRL led The CW to a Wednesday night win among adults 18-34 (2.5/8-tie), women 18-34 (3.7/11), teens (3.1/12), female teens (5.5/19).
By comparison, GOSSIP GIRL's debut scored stronger female teen ratings (5.3/17) than the series debuts of "The OC," "One Tree Hill," "Gilmore Girls," and "Buffy the Vampire Slayer And in women 18-34, the GOSSIP GIRL debut (3.3/9) topped the series openers of "One Tree Hill," "Gilmore Girls," and "Buffy the Vampire Slayer," and came in just 0.1 behind the launch of "The OC."
AMERICA'S NEXT TOP MODEL returned in winning fashion, ranking first from 8-9:00p.m. in adults 18-34 (2.8/10), women 18-34 (4.2/12), teens (3.3/13) and female teens (5.7/20), against series premieres and tough original competition.
Last night's one-hour premiere of TOP MODEL improved over the first hour of last Fall's debut by 6% in viewers (5.2mil), 4% in adults 18-49 (2.5/8) and 36% in female teens (5.7/20)
The CW scored big in the major markets around the country with the premieres of "America's Next Top Model" and "Gossip Girl." Among adults 18-34, The CW was the number one network on Wednesday in New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Philadelphia, San Francisco, Washington, D.C. and Detroit. Among women 18-34 in the major markets, The CW was first in New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Philadelphia, San Francisco, Boston, Washington, D.C., Atlanta and Detroit.
In adults 18-49, The CW affiliates won Wednesday night in New York, Los Angeles and Chicago. And with women 18-49, The CW was first in New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, San Francisco and Detroit.
hellosunshine24
Sep 21, 2007 @ 2:39 pm
YAY! Thanks for posting. I'm really happy to know things with the ratings are a lot better than they seemed.
likeelectric
Sep 21, 2007 @ 2:48 pm
I think that you cannot rely just on Neilsen ratings... I know so many people who either don't get the CW, or just watch it on a different channel (eg. Gossip Girl is on Tuesday's on CTV), or even on the internet.
A question: how do they collect Nielsen ratings?
Bitterswete
Sep 21, 2007 @ 2:52 pm
GG did well for a CW show. But the network wanted it to do much better than that. So, as far as the CW's expectations go, GG underperformed. It didn't tank, which I'm sure they're happy about. And there are quite a few positives in the ratings breakdowns, which I'm sure they are also happy about. But, considering how much the CW spent promoting the show, they didn't get anywhere near the return they wanted on their investment.
Still, I don't think GG is in any danger of being cancelled as things stand right now. But we'll have to wait and see how it does in the next few weeks.
monef
Sep 21, 2007 @ 3:13 pm
Looks like it did asolutely fine for a pilot. The question is whether those numbers can be maintained and improved on or not. I'm pretty sure CW realise that some investments take a little longer to bear fruit.
Featherhat
Sep 21, 2007 @ 3:37 pm
GG did well for a CW show.
Which is the key thing, it was supposedly going to be the show that did better than the average CW show. And the way they promoted it, the execs probably thought it would too. It's no disaster and there's time to build up
Looks like it did asolutely fine for a pilot. The question is whether those numbers can be maintained and improved on or not. I'm pretty sure CW realise that some investments take a little longer to bear fruit.
I expect there's going to be a 2nd show drop off as there usually is after any pilot and it's going to have way stronger competition in the coming weeks as well. It's not going to be cancelled any time soon unless it really tanks but whether it will be come the break out hit they desperately need........time will tell.
I think that you cannot rely just on Neilsen ratings... I know so many people who either don't get the CW, or just watch it on a different channel (eg. Gossip Girl is on Tuesday's on CTV), or even on the internet.
But the network cares most about Neilson ratings because those are the ones that show who watched it on the network and therefore saw the ads their advertisers paid for, not so much if they downloaded it online or saw it on a different network.
hellosunshine24
Sep 21, 2007 @ 3:51 pm
A question: how do they collect Nielsen ratings?
There's about 1000 families that are randomly chosen, and each family represents a certain amount of people in America with televisions. They have a special box hooked up to their television, and there's some form they fill out, too. That's about all I know.
Still, I don't think GG is in any danger of being cancelled as things stand right now. But we'll have to wait and see how it does in the next few weeks.
I'm almost positive that we'll get at least 2 seasons out of this show, mainly because these are pretty good ratings for the CW, and because they don't have much left. One Tree Hill's last season is coming up, and who knows what they're going to do with these other shows? America's Next Top Model will go on for awhile longer, but they can't rely on only reality shows.
Featherhat
Sep 21, 2007 @ 4:37 pm
Oh yes, as long as they don't drastically drop I assume they'll be at least 2 seasons, even if purely because The CW just doesn't have the shows to plug the gaps if any more end as you say. Just that it might not become the zeitergiest (by CW standards) that people were hoping, though it is a bit early to say that for sure one way or the other right now, obviously.
Bitterswete
Sep 21, 2007 @ 4:52 pm
A question: how do they collect Nielsen ratings?
Last time I looked into it, there were 5,000 Nielsen boxes out there, which is still a very small sampling of the population. The Nielsen system assumes that, if 10% (or 500) of those with a Nielsen box watched a certain program, then 10% of all the people in the US with a television set must've watched that program.
likeelectric
Sep 21, 2007 @ 7:47 pm
Thanks, guys. That seems stupid, and not at all accurate!
On another note, hopefully CW will give Gossip Girl a chance like they did to Veronica Mars. If I lose VM as well as GG, my Official Veronica Replacement show, I will be so bummed.
berrieh
Sep 21, 2007 @ 8:23 pm
I read a couple pieces last year that said many of the age range that used to watch the WB shows in their heydays now watch more "grown up" dramedies like Greys, Desperate Housewives, LOST (not a dramedy but still) in huge numbers rather than shows purely orientated at teens, and high school shows are watched by a lower age boundary than previously. It would make sense because of the pityful numbers this network is pulling for many shows on a strict teen/highscool show demographic. I was expected at least over 4 million given the advertising and massive popularity of the books. Oh well I'm sure this will be one of the last in the season to be cancelled if it has to come to that since they are so desperate.
Personally, I think the problem the CW is having is it's hyper-focusing on that youthful demo and almost making itself too young. I grew up at the beginning of the WB heyday. I remember when
Dawson's Creek and
Buffy were new, and everyone in school watched them. Back then, teens watched the WB, and that made it a teen network. They didn't tell us over and over it was a teen network. Sure, the kids were our age (well, the characters - not the actors, who are always like pushing 40 and playing 15), but it wasn't a "TEEN NETWORK" even though it really was.
Basically, I think the TEEN NETWORK branding is biting the CW in the butt. Teens want to be older and older people (who might still like a high school soap -- hey, I'm midtwenties, and I've been a CW viewer on numerous occasions, watching VM, Gilmore Girls, occasionally Supernatural, sometimes ANTM, and now GG) hate to admit they watch the CW or stay away from it on principle. I've had numerous people tell me this.
Anyway, I think those are especially lackluster numbers for GG seeing as how it had basically no competition, sans the new Ramsey show. Private Practice and Bionic Woman will both cut into its market share, as will the newness quotient. I predict it loses as much as 25% next week. However, if they can build some momentum and make the episodes readily available online, I think it could breakout mid-season, assuming they burn through the exposition and make a strong show.
likeelectric
Sep 21, 2007 @ 8:35 pm
Yeah, I agree, berrieh. Being a "teen" myself, I think it's stupid to try and appeal to one demographic, especially one as finicky as teenagers. Considering that my own televisual interets run from Dexter to America's Next Top Model to Buffy to Mad Men... I think the Cw needs to focus on good, watchable TV.
Featherhat
Sep 22, 2007 @ 6:34 am
Wasn't Runaway an attempt to be less "teen"? I never saw it so I can't say but it doesn't look too high schoolish. Though I totally agree berrieh and likeelectric they shot themselves by catering exclusively to teens and promoting themselves as such. Disney and Nick get away with it because they're that much younger orientated but it doesn't work as well for older teens/early 20's that they need.
berrieh
Sep 22, 2007 @ 7:59 am
It's hard to tell what Runaway was because it got pulled so quickly, but it wasn't any less teen than the other shows. The show involved the parents, too, but it revolved around the teenage kids adapting to it. I saw one episode. Some people compared it to a mix of 90210 and the Fugitive.
The issue isn't even with how "TEEN" the shows are on the CW (I know 40 year olds who watch ANTM or watched VM), even though they are predominantly teen, in terms of demo (and should be - that's not a bad strategy in and of itself), but rather how "We want to cater to teens" the network is. Neither the WB, nor UPN announced that.
What are the demos for the Gossip Girl books? Anyone know? (I'm more inclined to watch young TV than read younger books, so I'm guessing it skews fairly teen.)
Featherhat
Sep 22, 2007 @ 9:48 am
What are the demos for the Gossip Girl books? Anyone know? (I'm more inclined to watch young TV than read younger books, so I'm guessing it skews fairly teen.)
The books have mentions/actions of drugs and sex in them and I two I read centred partly around getting in to college so I guess they're supposed to be for the "older teen" crowd but I bet they draw many 10-14 year olds as well. But yes almost all teen or at least they were when the books started to come out, early 20's might have kept reading them.
rainar
Sep 23, 2007 @ 12:19 am
Yeah, I'm in my thirties, and I'm a bit of an anomoly (and TV addict) in that during pilot launch in the fall I pretty much watch at least every new one-hour scripted show at least once before settling on my picks for the season. But to be honest, I almost thought about giving everything on the CW a miss this season, simply because of how extremely young it's all promoted to be. I'm a die hard viewer and fan of Supernatural, but my other picks from last year's CW, Gilmore Girls and Veronica Mars (both of which I started watching right when they premiered on their previous networks and were better shows — but that's another issue) are both gone. I do think the CW needs to start promoting itself to a wider audience, if it has any hope of getting the teen/ young adult one it wants. Nobody wants to say they watch the kiddie network.
As for Gossip Girl, decent ratings, but I'm sure not as high as they wanted. They absolutely wanted this to be a signature show for them. I do, however, think it's the kind of show that could pick up more viewers as it goes.
Bitterswete
Sep 23, 2007 @ 4:35 pm
I don't find the CW as a whole to be very teen-agery. The WB had this whole "young generation" feel to it, from its shows, to its "edgy and hip" ad campaigns. They didn't call themselves "the teen network," but I think a lot of the WB's teen/early 20s audience liked that it was a network that catered to them, their tastes and styles.
As a whole, the CW doesn't feel like much of anything, not even a network for teens/early-20ans. The WB had a feel, an identity, that set it apart from the rest. Right now, the CW's identity is pretty generic and...well, blah.
Suburban Knight
Sep 27, 2007 @ 8:44 am
Ratings for episode 2:
Third in the hour in the overnights was the season premiere of CBS’ Criminal Minds (9.0/14), followed by the week two episodes of Fox’s Kitchen Nightmares (4.1/ 6), and the CW’s Gossip Girl (2.1/ 3). Compared to their week-ago debuts, Kitchen Nightmares dropped by 18 percent (5.0/ 8 to 4.1/ 6), while Gossip Girl slid my a more significant 28 percent (2.9/ 5 to 2.1/ 3). Also of note for Gossip Girl, and this is not positive, was retention out of the second half of America’s Next Top Model (3.9/ 6) of just 54 percent.
SassandtheCity
Sep 27, 2007 @ 10:42 am
Hopefully people being disappointed by Bionic Woman and Private Practice will eventually help the ratings.
kismet kiss
Sep 27, 2007 @ 11:07 am
From
TV GUIDEPrivate Practice (14.4 mil) came away with a slight lead over Bionic Woman (13.6 mil) in total viewers, though Jaime Sommers drew a slightly sexier demo. (Note: the Grey's eppy that laid the foundation for the spin-off drew 21 mil. Apples, oranges, I know.) Criminal Minds was No. 3 with 12.7 mil (a 23 percent plunge from a year ago). Gossip Girl (2.55 mil) was down 30 percent from its debut.
CW's hopeful Golden Child....well I just don't know how they'll spin that.