marty118
Sep 11, 2007 @ 6:49 pm
An
interesting argument from filmjerk.com in their review of Fierce People:
Since the latter part of 2006, I've been thinking about writing a column called "The Best Films of 2005 You May Never See," which would have included Peter Chan's "Perhaps Love" (best described as an Asian "Moulin Rouge") and this absurdist comedy from Griffin Dunne, which no doubt would have finally earned Donald Sutherland his elusive first Academy Award nomination had it come out when it was first scheduled to....
A lot of this might sound like a storyline just a step up from Days of our Lives, or, with a lower budget and a few edits for content, a Lifetime Original Movie starring Gail O’Grady, Peter Bergman and Alex D. Linz, yet it is the strong cast, the refreshingly unruly direction of Dunne and the proudly melancholy screenplay by one-time “Saturday Night Live” writer Dirk Wittenborn that keeps “Fierce People” from being a humdrum affair. Lane has never been more radiant, Yelchin finally shows some of that promise merely hinted at for years, Stewart continues to show she is the most likely to become the Jodie Foster of her generation, and even Evans shows a depth of emotion unseen in his hackneyed performances in those insipid superhero movies. Combined, though, they don’t hold a match to the performance of Sutherland, who reminds us once again how great he can be when given a choice role, and how much Hollywood still doesn’t understand how to use him properly, even after forty years of service.
TudorQueen
Sep 14, 2007 @ 9:20 pm
I've loved Donald Sutherland for many, many years and feel he's often overlooked when he's wonderful [e.g. only main actor in "Ordinary People" not to receive an Oscar nomination, but he was extraordinary] and not always well used [e.g. I watched "Commander In Chief" because of him, to a large extent, but felt the character was written as a cartoon].
Given the fact that Greg Berlanti [one of the principal showrunners] is good at matching actor and character, and also good at delving into complex characters, I have a good feeling here. Reading on another thread that the best parts of the pilot may be the scenes Sutherland shares with Peter Krause [another reason I'm watching DSM] and my hopes are even higher.
marty118
Sep 14, 2007 @ 11:35 pm
I agree that he has not often been given enough to do in his roles--he has a great deal of talent, but frequently everything there is to know about his character is revealed in the first entrance. I have high hopes that Craig and Berlanti have given him something of more interest to work with here.
AriAU
Sep 26, 2007 @ 10:02 am
I watched "Commander In Chief" because of him, to a large extent, but felt the character was written as a cartoon].
Cartoonish maybe, but it was fun watching him gobble up the scenery in that show.
cpuffin
Sep 27, 2007 @ 5:05 am
Once upon a time (I am old) I saw "Klute" and fell in love with Donald Sutherland. I have since seen him in many projects where I thought he did a good job (not Commander in Chief, my least favorite), but my love dwindled.
I got it back tonight.
Wow, is he cool as Tripp!
TudorQueen
Sep 27, 2007 @ 2:48 pm
I was his 'bitch' as soon as he got out of the limo at the funeral. It was just one of those indefinable moments where an actor, without words or much to do, conveys an effortless sense of who his character is and is just completely in the moment. His later scenes only increased that sense for me. Love the actor, love the character, love the warmth and humor he is able to project.
I just think it's too bad Tripp's wife doesn't really love him. I think he's lovable...
crazywildwoman
Sep 27, 2007 @ 8:25 pm
It is his voice! I have loved him since I saw him in the movie MASH (which tells you how old I am!). He has the sexiest voice of anyone I have ever heard! I could have phone sex with him for days!
cpuffin
Sep 27, 2007 @ 8:56 pm
LOL on the phone sex! I'd do him for real!
Donald Sutherland as Tripp is the naughty boy for girls who went to Woodstock!
Mardia
Sep 27, 2007 @ 11:10 pm
Totally agree that DS and PK's scenes are one of the biggest highlights of the show. He infuses so many layers into it that it's a joy to watch--he's both warm and ever-so-slightly menacing, occasionally at the exact same time. It's great.
One moment in the pilot that really stood out for me was the shark's grin Tripp let out as Nick upped the price to ten million. Such a moment of "fisherman knowing the fish has been hooked..." Just awesome.
Winston Smith
Sep 28, 2007 @ 11:17 am
He infuses so many layers into it that it's a joy to watch--he's both warm and ever-so-slightly menacing, occasionally at the exact same time.
I think he's lovable...
I love how in the pilot he was the wise teddy bear of a family patriarch, but you can feel that there's more there. At some point we're going to get to see the evil, ruthless side of this guy and I can't wait for it.
goldentail
Sep 28, 2007 @ 11:26 pm
I love DS, he's the main reason why I was interested in watching the pilot. It totally paid off because he was great as always.
Tripp has warmth in him and coldness in him that always keeps you on your toes because you're always thinking about which trait is really dominant. Love this character.
marty118
Sep 29, 2007 @ 4:40 pm
Sept. 29
very candid interview with the Canadian press.
"I heard Craig speak at the L.A. screenings last spring, and he told the crowd, yes, it's dirty, sexy money. And it's full of dirt. It's got a lot of sex, and an impossible-to-imagine amount of money," says Sutherland. "But Craig feels that in the same way Six Feet Under opened the audience's eyes to a fresh look at death and changed forever the tone of television ... Dirty Sexy Money is a vehicle to open the audience's eyes to a fresh look at money - at the economics of wealth.
"Why so few have so much. And so many have so little. And what are we going to do about it? And if we don't do anything about it, what then? All with a hope to inching forward on eradicating the injustices of the world we live in. To move a little closer to justice."
cpuffin
Oct 4, 2007 @ 2:39 pm
Donald Sutherland, in last night's episode, upon the opening of the briefcase, delivered a scene so rich, so heartbreaking with no TV sniveling involved, I had to post here (we are all raving about it in the episode thread) just to honor him.
Brilliant.
socialchild
Oct 4, 2007 @ 2:50 pm
cpuffin said:
Donald Sutherland, in last night's episode, upon the opening of the briefcase, delivered a scene so rich, so heartbreaking with no TV sniveling involved, I had to post here (we are all raving about it in the episode thread) just to honor him.
If that one scene doesn't get DS an emmy nomination this year there is no justice in the world.
Donald Sutherland is totally the boss of me. That's why I watched Commander in Chief (well, that and Gina Davis' legs). I'd tune in to watch him read a phone book. Hell, I'd even watch Cavemen if he were in it.
BlkLab99
Oct 4, 2007 @ 3:04 pm
Donald Sutherland (heh...I originally typed "Keifer") can convey without saying a word, what most actors need a ton of dialog to master. Does that make sense? Just his flinch when the briefcase opened was perfect.
Yep, he's the boss of me, too. And that flowing white hair?! Yowsa.
Detsl
Oct 4, 2007 @ 10:28 pm
Yeah count me in on the love train. I never realized how amazing he was. I have heard about him a lot, being a fellow Canuk, but have never properly seen him in anything(Only in a small role in one of my favorite movies- JFK). I am now a bit ashamed I haven't seen more from him because he just has this quality...that I cannot describe. I won't even try because I will just end up rambling for 5 paragraphs and say, basically, nothing. I am so ineloquent.
And Tripp? What a wonderful character. He's a charismatic man.
And count me in as someone who would watch Caveman if he were in it too, and that's saying something.
Luca Brazzi
Oct 4, 2007 @ 11:23 pm
He is fabulous. I managed to watch this the other night. (I am not organized and usually miss out on new shows of worth until they are well into their second season) however I will watch this one and not just because of the guy from Six Feet Under....
jdolanie
Oct 5, 2007 @ 12:41 am
I adore DS. I can't wait to see how his character progresses. He is such a fantastic actor!
Thena
Oct 8, 2007 @ 1:49 pm
My friend and I have said how he has one of the best voices in Canada. I wish I could talk and enunciate the way he does (well as a girl). Damn!
I also forgot he was in Ordinary People because I saw it so many years ago, but remember loving all the performances in it. I'm glad I can connect it. I need to really watch Don't Look Now.
elvira7
Oct 8, 2007 @ 6:01 pm
I need to really watch Don't Look Now.
Don't Look Now is a terrific horror movie (they sure don’t make them like that anymore), but it's probably best known for the graphic sex scene between Donald Sutherland and Julie Christie. The scene was so realistic that many viewers were persuaded it was the real deal.
DS drew me to
DSM in the first place, and he's doing a wonderful job keeping me there.
jdolanie
Oct 10, 2007 @ 9:58 pm
I'm in the love train. I adore him. The last 5 min with Trip, that was great!
BlkLab99
Oct 11, 2007 @ 9:43 am
I just want to reach in to my TV and run my hands through all that snow white hair. It fascinates me. I'm actually his son's age, but there is just something about DS!
Not that I would ever turn Keifer down, either!
alleythecat
Oct 11, 2007 @ 4:37 pm
I just want to reach in to my TV and run my hands through all that snow white hair. It fascinates me. I'm actually his son's age, but there is just something about DS!
I'm 28, and I know exactly what you mean. It's almost disturbing to me, I just think he's
that hot.
ImNotLeesa
Oct 11, 2007 @ 9:13 pm
I'm totally loving DS in this role. He's so good at conveying so much with so little, seemingly revealing a lot about Tripp, but possibly keeping us in the dark about Tripp's true feelings, motivations, etc. Oh, and I lo-o-ve his voice (always have).
I keep thinking back to the scene in the pilot when Jeremy was talking to Nick in the limo. Jeremy was concerned that his father was going to be angry with him "He's going to kill me!" Nick says that of course Tripp won't kill him. Jeremy pauses, puts up the screen between them and the driver, and says "Then he'll have me killed." It's interesting to me that this even entered his mind, and that it was enough of a focused thought that he didn't want the driver to overhear him, IMO, TPTB are telling us something about Tripp through his youngest son.
ETA: Hey, what do you know, I'm a Loyal Viewer now.
cpuffin
Oct 11, 2007 @ 9:31 pm
I find myself going online to abc and watching Donald Sutherland's scenes over and over. He is so good in this.
BlkLab99
Oct 15, 2007 @ 3:57 pm
Good enough that I want to see a father-son face off in the Best Actor category at this year's Emmy's!
Or do you suppose DS's scenes would be submitted for Supporting Actor? I think he and PK are "lead actors," where the three Darling son's are more supporting roles.
ProfCrash
Oct 16, 2007 @ 2:36 pm
I have very bad thoughts about Kiefer and Donald. I am not sure that it is healthy. Maybe Tripp will get himself arrested some time this season. I am reasonably certain that it is not healthy.
I started watching this show for Donald but have been completly drawn in.
cpuffin
Oct 17, 2007 @ 1:38 am
I mentioned in a previous post that I fell in love with DS sometime in the 70s when I saw Klute.
I enjoyed him after that, but not as much, until DSM. Meanwhile Kiefer came on the scene, and I did not like him much. I wonder if Kiefer contributed to my downgrading of DS.
In any case, DS is back at the top of my crush list.
jdolanie
Oct 17, 2007 @ 9:52 pm
Oh Damn! Trip's scenes with Trish! Wow he's fantastic, the emotions, and depth. What an amazing actor. I love him.
PezKat
Oct 18, 2007 @ 12:39 pm
Heh - we are few but strong, we Donald Sutherland fans! I've always loved him too, though haven't seen tons of his movies. He's why I watched the pilot and though I'd probably enjoy the show even if he weren't in it, I *love* his portrayal of his character. I had the Emmy nomination thought during last night's ep for sure. I hope the show sticks around for a while. It's nice to have a Sutherland to watch during the fall too.
arlykeeno
Oct 18, 2007 @ 2:57 pm
I am so wanting Elliott Gould to show up as a guest star. I just thought those two were sublime playing off each other in M*A*S*H. I even watched S*P*Y*S just to see them again.
I started to turn on Donald Sutherland after seeing his ass in "Animal House," but I was willing to forgive by the time of "Ordinary People." Maybe it was because of the Animal House ass that they didn't nominate him for OP. But... "M*A*S*H"? Klute? No nom? "Don't Look Now"? "Steelyard Blues"?
MisbehavinAngel
Oct 18, 2007 @ 3:22 pm
he's both warm and ever-so-slightly menacing, occasionally at the exact same time. It's great.
That about sums DS up very good. And that is sexappeal at is highest, so for all you young chickies out there lusting after Donald don't feel bad, we can't help it.
I really want him to get an Emmy for this show, because wow he lights up the screen without words.
When I was young he scared the crap out of me in a few horrormovies, but now well this is more like it, and a testament to his acting. The voice, I love to listen to all the commercials he did.
He is the reason I wanted to watch this show in the beginning, and I am not sorry I did.
Nightrain
Oct 18, 2007 @ 3:53 pm
DS never nominated for anything? How is this possible? That puts the O in Overlooked. I thought he was like Dustin Hoffman: did his best work in his youth, got himself a couple of statues, then aged to play shitty roles in shitty movies that pay. Well, scratch the couple of statues.
Did he win an Emmy? I know he's been nominated for some TV movies over the years, but I don't remember him winning.
The opening of the briefcase scene should get him nominated for an Oscar, screw the Emmys. Mind you, I'm sure we'll get a few more of these scenes where I'll be yelping "give him the Emmy already". In fact, there's at least one per episode.
And now I'm upset again that Donald didn't get to play Daddy of Kiefer in 24. What is it going to take to have these two play a scene together? (They were together in "A Time to Kill" but never in the same scene.) The excuse was they look like each other too much to play unrelated characters. But Kiefer was having a daddy in 24! And it wasn't Donald! Grrr...
marty118
Oct 18, 2007 @ 4:04 pm
Did he win an Emmy? I know he's been nominated for some TV movies over the years, but I don't remember him winning.
Yes. 1995 Supporting Actor in a Miniseries or a Special for
Citizen X. He was also nominated in 2006 for Outstanding Lead Actor in a Miniseries or a Movie for
Human Trafficking, but didn't win that time (that was the year that Kiefer won Outstanding Lead Actor for a drama series). He lost to Braugher for
Thief.
He also won Golden Globes twice, once for
Citizen X and once in 2003 for
Path to War.
elvira7
Oct 25, 2007 @ 11:10 pm
When I was young he scared the crap out of me in a few horror movies
I loved DS’s performance in the sci-fi chiller
Invasion of the Body Snatchers (1978), which IMO has nicely stood the test of time. I will never forget that film's final image.
cpuffin
Nov 28, 2007 @ 9:13 pm
The hottest (ok, so my tastes do run to the subtle) sex scene I have ever seen was Donald in Klute, with Jane Fonda. The second hottest was Donald with Julie Cristie in Don't look now.
On that note, my reawakened lascivious crush on Donald Sutherland is paying surprising dividends. I am old and dumpy. But age-appropriate fellows keep asking me out. I credit Donald.
Owlet
Nov 30, 2007 @ 3:46 pm
Well, I'm glad to have read through this thread, because my latent thing for DS (I just adore him all through M*A*S*H) has now become a full-blown crush thanks to DSM. He's just so marvelous in it. Nothing really I can say that hasn't been said except my Netflix queue is about to get a serious reworking. (And I too am his son's age, but then I had crushes on Tommy Lee Jones and Christopher Walken when I was in high school...however I married a guy only six years my senior.) :-)
gymtastic
Dec 8, 2007 @ 9:28 pm
Did anyone else catch the Heisman presentation tonight? I'm pretty sure DS was the narrator for one of the pieces they had. The whole time, I pictured DS as Tripp being asked to record the piece: "Who are these unnamed youths? What is this Heis-man of which you speak?"
Okay, so it cracked me up in my head....
Mell
Dec 8, 2007 @ 10:32 pm
...And then he'd say something in Swedish. Hee. I love Tripp and DS.
RianD
Dec 8, 2007 @ 11:29 pm
Donald's work in Buffy the Vampire Slayer has been on multiple times tonight. I love him in it. I don't care what my on-screen guie says, that movie deserves more than one-star! (Dammit, it features the "How funky is your chicken?" cheer!)
I think Donald may be our best bet for a Golden Globe nomination this week.
lnmop
Dec 9, 2007 @ 1:20 am
I'd like to volunteer to be the conductor on the DS love-train. As Tripp Darling (or as I like to call him, Tripp, Darling) we see the perfect match of incredible writing for a character paired with exquisite interpretation and portrayal by the actor. The dialogue written for him, which differs greatly from that written for the other characters, combined with DS's elocution is amazing. He is truly a memorable TV character. If there is a God, DS will win an Emmy this year.
Detsl
Dec 13, 2007 @ 9:42 am
Donald got nominated for Best Supporting Actor, Series, Miniseries or Movie for DSM!
Good thing too or there would have been many upset people.
cpuffin
Dec 13, 2007 @ 1:33 pm
YAY for the Golden Globe nomination! It would be great if he wins.
RianD
Dec 13, 2007 @ 3:35 pm
Yeah! He and his amazing hair will look so nice at the show.
(I assume Kiefer will still be serving time in the ol' jailhouse at that time?)
ProfCrash
Dec 13, 2007 @ 4:40 pm
The Golden Globes are January 13th. Kiefer is released January 21rst. Kiefer won't be there but he might be able to watch on TV. It will be interesting to see what Donald says if he wins.
TudorQueen
Dec 13, 2007 @ 9:49 pm
A friend read me the Golden Globe nominations over the phone. When DSM didn't get nominated for Drama Series, and then nothing for Best Actor, I was sure they were entirely overlooked. Then as she read the nominees for Supporting Actor she said 'hold on,' with a little laugh and gave the last two - Shatner and Sutherland! My first reaction was 'supporting?' but then I realized that A)Peter Krause is really the lead and B) supporting is possibly a better category for him to have a chance of winning and C)who cares as long as he's nominated?
ShepherdSquared
Dec 15, 2007 @ 3:49 am
I love that DS/DSM is at the very end of the GG nominations. This year they saved the very best for last, obviously ;)
Tripp, Darling for the Dirty Sexy Win!
RianD
Dec 15, 2007 @ 7:55 pm
Is it too much to ask that he wears a tux with some red stitching on the lapel, just as a Tripp/DSM shout-out?
japhy rider
Dec 16, 2007 @ 11:25 pm
I found the supporting nod a bit confusing at first, too. But I guess if Shatner is also considered supporting on Boston Legal, it makes sense. And yes, who cares, as long as he's nominated. Dirty Sexy DS FTW!
arc
Oct 26, 2008 @ 1:42 am
From the s2 ep03 thread:
I get that he may have been in shock first season because of the reveal of Leticia/Dutch, and his marriage...
In retrospect, did that revelation cause any tension between him and Paddy, his namesake who himself was unfaithful to his own spouse? ... cause I can't remember any.
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