First of all: Justin Bobby's car!! Oh, my god, that was just too perfect.

Also, a couple of timeline issues. Did Jen have that new nose in the first episode? Because I'm not remembering it, and Heidi didn't seem to, either. And Audrina said it's been 4 months since her and Justin Bobby have been dating this time? Has that much time really gone by since the first episode? I thought they shot all this this summer but maybe they started earlier.

Whoa!

Did you see that big gulp Heidi took when Jen asked her how Heidi knew it was Brody who spread those rumors? you can totally tell she was just trying to cover something up

I don't know if I should feel sorry for Heidi and Spencer or if I should laugh at them. It's pathetic that they're cooped up in their scary, wannabe Newlyweds-like world, and then there's Lauren, and all her friends hanging out. Whenever they cut to scenes of Heidi and Spencer after a scene of Lauren and Co., it makes it that much more obvious that Heidi and Spencer are pathetic.

Also pathetic? JustinBobby driving an El Camino. I go back and forth on the guy (the looking like Keanu thing), but then there's the combat boots at the beach infraction, the manpris infraction, the burping at the table infraction, and now the El Camino infraction.

Well, to get some perspective, I saw an iPhone in a couple of shots with Spencer, which didn't come out until...late June? Early July?

Heidi is one unhappy girl. Was there a single scene where she wasn't swallowing some huge disappointment? Spencer shuts her down twice while she's folding the towels, amkes fun of her plans to see Jen, Jen points out that Heidi really does miss being friends with Lauren, Jen also points out that Heidi really doesn't have any friends... and the list goes on and on.

I love the timeline on this show. Brody no longer has a cast and he broke his thumb last week. Yet TMZ said he had a cast at his bday party a week or so ago.

Also, why did LC question whether Spencer would be at Brody's apt? It almost sounds like either a) Spencer is living with him still (so this happened before they moved in together?) or b) Spencer spends a lot of time trying to get away from his own place with Heidi and hangs out alone at his friend's apt.


I seem to remember that they started shooting The Hills again only a month after last season's finale. However, since things didn't "heat up" with these people until later this summer, they probably left a lot of the early footage on the cutting room floor.

Loved the El Camino!

Oh no, it's obvious that Lauren wants Brody, while all he wants is the camera. It was bad enough that he starting hanging out with her again once the cameras started rolling for season 3, but it's far worse if he's getting some booty as well. Lauren's face was giving her away. Girl has it bad for him, I cringed when she invited herself to the condo. Yep, that's dating like a guy...unfortunately, I think she'll be hurt when they stop filming and Brody's no where to be found. Oh, and I have very little trouble believing that he bad-mouthed her while they weren't speaking. Heidi seemed genuinely shocked by Bolthouse's comments about seeing them together. I don't know that he was source of all the rumors, but I can definitely see him making comments about the size/shape of her hooha.

The Spencer & Brody break-up. Ugh, so overplayed. Since when do they film Brody driving around in his car?

Jenn & Heidi seemed so awkward, I don't believe they hang out at all.

Boring episode.

Lauren is such an undercover ho - awesome. Of course the sleepover was friendly ha ha ha. Audrina, while pretty, still freaks me out with her dead stare.

Spencer and Heidi are obviously unhappy. But enough about them, really.

I wonder why Whitney isn't really featured anymore. Probably because of her new job - got to be professional now. Oh, and I thought Teen Vogue folded? Or was that Elle Girl? I stopped reading teen magazines when I actually was a teen.

WTF was up with Heidi and all those towels? There's two people and between them they use 10 or so towels but have no other laundry to fold? A bit of an exaggeration by the propmaster.

Was the lunch scene between Jenn, Heidi and their new noses really needed??? Enough with Speidi and Jenn Bunney.

Don't they live with Spencer's parents though? Maybe she washed their towels as well or maybe she just bought a whole new set of towels and decided to wash them before putting them away (which is what I do).

Does anyone know how the hell Lauren was able to knot that scarf/bandana thing in her hair? Everytime I do it, it results in a full on tangle-war in my hair which by the way is not nice.

I just loved the fact that Speidi weren't on as much and that we got to see Lauren out having fun with her friends. I wish Whitney was on more. Their Teen Vogue scenes are always cute. Does anyone else think Jenn Bunney got a nose job? Her lips look fuller too.

Why would Brent care if Lauren and Brody are dating again and why would he ask Heidi? To me that was very staged.
He must read the "entertainment" news to know about the "feud" that is going on. Even if he didn't read anything, you can't tell me that Heidi has been silent while she's at work about the whole Lauren/Spencer fiasco.

The editing and timeline is so screwy.
Lauren and Jason met at Ketchup in early July (this is also when Speidi "coincidentally" show up)
Heidi went home to CO in early June. Brody's BBQ (when he broke his finger) was late July. The Brody/Spencer break-up was reported around the time of the BBQ.

I really wish they would go in time order.

As for Brody and Spencer's "break-up", Brody gave an interview not too long ago (I can't remember where I read it)
that has him quoted saying that he and Spencer are not friends anymore, but he will always consider Spencer "family"

Also, I'm wondering if Jenn is trying to get back into Lauren's good graces by trying to get Heidi to admit to starting or helping to start certain rumors and then go running back to Lauren with the info.

Jen made some good points in her discussion with Heidi. And Jen looked really good. :)

There presence of Justin Bobby is taking valuable airtime away from Jen, Lo, Whitney and others and I don't like that. :(

I think it's public knowledge that she did get a nose job. And if it wasn't, it is now. She did a Jennifer Grey, she looks completely different!

Heidi should have gotten Jenn's plastic surgeon's number. Heidi's nose looked better before, but the nose job worked wonders on Jenn.

Lauren could teach Audrina a thing or two about hooking up. Lauren hooks up with Brody but doesn't want to date Brody otherwise and even makes fun of him. Audrina is trying to boyfriendise a guy that she really should be just fucking and forgetting.

"He doesn't believe in labels"!!! What a crock of shit.

RE Brody's cast: Lauren called in to the Aftershow, and said Brody doesn't always wear the cast (?!) so that would explain the seemingly odd continuity issues. Well, some of them anyway.

I was actually pleasantly surprised to see Jen Bunney and her new nose call Heidi out on some of the bullshit comments. And according to Lauren, we will actually see her confront Brody about his alleged role in the sex tape rumour on an upcoming episode.


I've had just about enough of Justin Bobby. It seems like he's just in it for the physical aspect...there doesn't appear to be any other reason he's sticking around and all that crap about not like labels...I can't believe Audrina bought that. Well, actually I can.

The editing of this season is all wrong. We need to see:

Less: Audrina (and her dead, dead eyes), JB, Brody, Speidi
More: Whitney, Lo, Teen Vogue people



Well, of course- Heidi was a cute girl before she met Spencer (OMG how dare I say Heidi had ANYTHING before she met Spencer! They're probably starting a sex tape rumor about me right now). Jen, on the other hand- total fug.

Jen got her nose done, I was wondering what was different about her. She looks great.

I'm feeling more and more sorry for Heidi. Poor sad girl.

Best line of the night, Brody calling Spencer a bitch. Loved it.

I am never going to believe that Heidi and Jen Bunney are even vaguely friends, that was totally staged and the most awkward breakfast EVER.

I kind of wish Lauren and Brody WOULD start going out again. Oy, what is wrong with me. And Audrina needs to get rid of Justin Bobby who is so horrible and nasty looking, and clearly never going to give her what she wants (which is an actual real, acknowledged relationship).

Severely boring episode. NOTHING happened.

I loved Jenn Bunney basically being like, the only reason I'm sitting here with you is because Lauren is still mad at me. But as soon as she isn't, I'm going to be BFF with her again because she is NOT a "SUCKY PERSON!"

How bad of a liar is Heidi? At least formulate a lie in your head instead of repeatedly saying Brody Jenner in an ominous tone. That was the worst cover up in the world. If you knew or had heard him say things, why not use that as your defense instead of being like, I did nothing!

My timeline theory. (which by the way, I think should be a thread.)

Brody and Spencer split before Brody's B-day BBQ. Brody and Spencer in the tire shop talking about the Colorado/Party conflict refered to a differnent party. The call from Spencer at the party is a bit of a fly in the ointment but I am working on it.
This whole Spencer broke up with me thing is not sitting well with me. Spencer is too tan this episode and too fuzzy for me to accept the linear progression.

BTW, WTF happened this episode? nothing. again.

I did notice how he was fuzzy on the balcony & not fuzzy while on the couch with Heidi and her eighty towels. Heidi also had longer hair with layers and the other episode it was a bit shorter? I know it all happened around the same time, but please! All this media attention & trying to figure it out on the show is giving me a headache. I'm just giving up reading the gossip mags until the season is over - just so I can enjoy it!

The thing with that is that the gossip mags are progressing the stories more than the show. I get the feeling that MTV is just not producing The Hills anymore, they are letting respective publicists of the kids involved, run their story.
I get more understanding of what is happening in the characters' lives from the media than from The Hills. LC is launching a line, we dont even see her discussing a desire to have a line. We don't see LC or Whitney working anymore, we don't see LC at school anymore, we don't see their lives. What is going on? I think if you only watched the show you would be confused and bored at the same time.

Speidi are so pathetic. And it's obvious the editors hate them. Every scene showcasing their domestic "bliss" is followed by a fun scene of Lauren and all of her friends. The juxtaposition is glaring. One person has a full life filled with people and fun, the other is a brain less twit saddled with a creepy Chucky doll come to life.

I can see why Lauren likes hanging out with Brody. He's fun and flirtatious. He's a great person to have a party with. I wouldn't count on him for anything serious. I'm sure he's not a great friend and probably an even worse boyfriend, but perfect for hanging out at the pool or in a club. Whether Lauren really likes Brody or not, I don't know. She's been seen out with other guys, so she obviously isn't pining for him. At least she realizes what he's good for. Poor Audrina must be mentally slow to not take the glaring red flags that JB is sending out. He doesn't want labels? Translation: he wants to fuck you and that's about it. If she keeps on waiting for him to labelize them, she'll be waiting a VERY long time. And then we'll have to sit through more Justin is an asshole scenes as Audrina looks on vaguely unhappy and alot confused. Ugh. Audrina, get a clue! (and since he was at Brody's bday party in LV last week, rocking a 1992 flannel no less, I guess she's still into the tool).

Lo was great. If you've been going out for 4 months, he should be your boyfriend. Sing it sister.

Jen looks great with the new nose. Nose jobs are great for people who need it. Not so great for people who don't (Heidi).

Next week looks good. It will be nice to see Jason again (sober this time)

I enjoyed this episode far more than last week. Less Spencer and Heidi, more Lauren having fun.

I thought there were a bunch of cute and funny scenes. Lauren talking about the girls making out in the bathroom, Lo saying "Yeah, he should be your boyfriend by now," Lauren and Whitney calling each other "Crystal" in ridiculous voices, and everybody hanging out at the pool. This was more what I'm looking for in an episode.

Also hilarious was the "You look so different!" scene between Jen and Heidi. Why, both of you do!

Lo remains the rockstar of the show, though.

Definitely. I mean, there was an entire conversation about a sex tape, and neither "sex" nor "tape" snuck out even once.

Word. Brent looked visibly pained during that entire conversation. And that was such an out of place time to even talk about something like that - right before a meeting.

Justin Bobby is killing me. His hipster shpiel about labels and not conforming to society's expectations, give me a break! Why don't you just be honest and say what you mean, that you want to be able to do Audrina and other girls without having to deal with her getting pissed. And Audrina describing their relationship as a roller coster with highs and lows... I have yet to see a high point from this guy.

My opinion of Brody swings from like to cannot stand during every episode. Loved it when he called Spencer out on acting like a high schooler and called him a bitch, priceless. He gets all cheesy around Lauren, though, which bugs.

Was it just me, or were Heidi's facial expressions whacked out? Her eyes seemed to be rolling around uncontrollably in her head, and no expression seemed fitting for the conversation she was having. I thought Spencer was going to flip out for a second when he asked Heidi if Jen was hanging out with Lauren at all. Can you imagine if Heidi had said yes? "YOU CANNOT ROLL WITH HER HEIDI!"

Really. Try explaining this show to a new viewer who doesn't read the tabloids. About 95% of the show comes from gossip sites or papers. It's almost like The Hills is occurring on two different levels. The spliced together, mostly fake, scenes, and then the real juice, which sadly, all happens off camera.

Eh... I thought this episode was just ok. Too much of the same... I mean, how many more scenes are we going to have of Heidi looking dejected and Justin-Bobby being an ass ("F*ck them all... literally..." really, Justin-Bobby? Literally?)?

Jen actually came off as ok in this episode. At least she was smart enough to see through Heidi's lies.

I agree that Lo was awesome once again. With one line she practically stole the show. Granted, there wasn't that much going on. I'm slightly losing respect for Lauren with the Brody thing (I wouldn't mind if they were still friends even though he's such an obvious famewhore, but hooking up still? sigh). And the editing for her this season is kind of weird... it's like all she does now is go to clubs. Didn't she used to have goals? A life in the daytime? Time apart from Audrina?? If it weren't for all the stuff in the media, no one would know it.

I actually liked Bunney in this episode. She didn't believe Heidi's bullshit for a second. I didn't think she was smart enough to realize Heidi was obviously lying, but turns out she is. Good for her. And she looks much better with her new nose. She? Needed one. Heidi? Didn't.

Lo is the bestest and always will be. I was so happy to see Whitney and she did not disappoint. I love her and Lauren together. Much better than Lauren and Audrina. Lauren should just hang out with Lo and Whitney.

I liked the episode. Heidi is the worst liar ever. I'm glad Bunney sort of called her out on it. I'm not sure I like her new nose, I kind of think Heidi's looks better.

Pratt is certainly living up to his name, especially after tonight's episode. Immature. Honestly, Brody is better off without him. He seems to have some integrity, not to cut his ties with Lauren just because Spencer hates her. I hope Brody isn't just using Lauren to be on tv though. I like to think he genuinely likes her.

I loved the scene between Whitney and Lauren. I like seeing Whitney's fun side.

I thought Lo looked gorgeous in that blue satin top and her hair all wavy in that scene where Audrina is getting ready for her date with JB. I'm sick of Audrina crawling back to him after he treats her like shit.

ok episode I guess. I liked the scene at the pool where Audrina says she doesn't want to come off as oversensitive in regards to JustinBobby and his non label liking self. Lauren turns and says that JustinBobby was being OverAssHole. Hee hee.

This Brody/Spencer split. I don't know if I really buy it. Those two have been friends since childhood and then there's that interview I read where they talk about how Brody dating Nicole Richie was all planned yada yada yada. I get the feeling this 'split' is them just trying to get more famewhorish.

Does anyone else find Audrina's coworker, Ciara, kind of annoying? She just seems so random. Her interest in Audrina and Lauren's lives seems so fake to me.

Did anyone notice at the beginning of the episode when Lauren and Audrina were talking about what happened the day before at Brody's barbecue Audrina was like "I'm surprised Heidi and Spencer didn't pop in yesterday"...weren't Heidi and Spencer supposed to be in Colorado? (silly MTV)

Lo = Awesome. She's so blunt and straight up and it's the greatest thing ever. Love her.

Also, blunt and awesome? Jen Bunny! She was so dead on during that breakfast with Heidi and called her out on her crap (as an aside - where the hell was that restaurant? On the freeway? There was so much rushing traffic! To the point where Jen was "I can't hear" becasue it was so loud...such an weird location)

"What a bitch" - sing it, brother. Spencer sucks.

The thing that gets me is that if Heidi really believed that Brody was behind the "rumors" she would/should have said something to Lauren when all of the drama was going down initially. The fact that she's just coming up with this revelation now shows how full of shit she is. Even Bunney can figure that out.

I really would like the people on this show to have actual conversations about stuff, not just recap things we've either already seen or missed entirely to bring the viewers up to speed.

Are we supposed to assume that Spencer does nothing around the house and has Heidi as his housekeeper? (Oh, and by the way, does Spencer have a job other than being Heidi's manager?)



It's Doughboys on Highland, which has an insane amount of traffic and no producer should have let them lunch outside, knowing how crazy the traffic is. Might as well have had them eat outside on La Brea.

When he said that nonsense, I was sitting there thinking, "Damn, that boy gets around". Couldn't stop laughing at his rant about labels and society. How does Justin-Bobby rebel against labels and society? By wearing combat boots to the beach, burping loudly in public, having your friends call you by a name that has absolutely nothing to do with your birth name and leaving helmets on couches instead of actually notifying the person you're with. Ass.



Loved that. I'm just waiting for Lauren to do a Spencer impersonation all, "I want Brody to myself!" Because Spence was all kinds of hypocritical this episode.



So did I. Heidi's reaction to her question, "But, how do you know, though?" in regards to Brody (Jen-ner!) starting the rumor was hilarious. It's like she never fathomed the possibility of Jen Bunney questioning her silly accusation.

I'm actually totally fine with Lauren still hooking up with Brody. She obviously finds him cute and fun to hang out with but doesn't take him seriously. He's some no-strings-attached ass and I like it when girls can make that distinction. He's using her for the cameras, she's using him for meaningless sex with the side benefit of making Spencer and Heidi unhappy. Point for Lauren. Not that she's living her life that way....she's just a carefree, pretty young girl having a fun life. Good for her.

Jenn Bunney needs to hand out her plastic surgeon's card. He did wonders on her face. On the other hand, if someone hadn't told me Heidi had her nose done, I would never have guessed it. She looks exactly the same to me, what a waste of money. Her and Spencer's relationship is so sad, he looks like he can barely stand her. She is going to feel like the world's biggest fool when she finally wakes up from this nightmare.

I don't buy Lauren's happy-go-lucky nonsense. She wants Brody bad and always has.

I like Jen(n) and I never stopped, really. I don't care one iota that she kissed Brody and wasn't appropriately ashamed when groveling to her highness.

I seriously could not care less about Audrina or her dating habits. She is as interesting as my corkboard coaster. This show is so boring now.

I definitely agree with you that Brody probably talked smack about Lauren after they broke up, and I can totally see him making the disgusting B.C. comment to Spencer and the boys. But I think the reason why Heidi got that "Oh, shit!" face when Bolthouse was singing for his MTV supper with his staged comment about Lauren and Brody hanging out again is that 1) Brody knows that Spencer (and, by omission) Heidi were behind the sex tape rumors and 2) Heidi knows Brody and Spencer are kinda on the rocks, and if he is hanging out with Lauren, there is a very good chance that he will spill the beans that Spencer/Heidi spread the sex tape rumors.

Heidi was seriously upset when she came home and told Spencer the "news" that Lauren and Brody were hanging out, and Spencer was equally shaken. I don't think that reaction was anger that Brody was "rolling" with his "enemy." I think they both knew that there was a very strong likelihood that Brody would confirm to Lauren that S&H were responsible for the sex tape rumors, they were worried he was going to do it on tape, and that they were going to be called out for what they did. I don't think they (at least Heidi) would otherwise be so freaked out by hearing that Lauren and Brody are hanging out again.

This is my theory -- there is some sort of tape, how graphic it is is uncertain, but there is clearly something out there -- that is why Lauren was so upset by the rumors, and why she was so certain that Heidi and Spencer were behind them. (As someone said above, Lauren clearly confided about the tape to Heidi, who told Spencer, who told the tabloids, and gilded the lily with his lovely BC editorializing, which were courtesy of Brody.) They are all low-lifes, and unfortunately for Lauren, this is what happens when you surround yourself with such people. (And I have no sympathy for her, considering she went from moping to her mom about how she's been so betrayed by "Hollywood-type" people to sleeping with famewhore extrordaire Brody Jenner again quite quickly.)

I have hated Jenn Bunney since she first appeared on my TV screen on LB1 talking about how popular Lauren and Stephen's kids would be, and how her maid got fired for breaking her straightening iron, but she was actually pretty cool tonight! Her new nose clearly gave her some self-confidence and self-awareness. She totally knew how full of crap Heidi was, was pushing her on it, and Heidi had no idea how to respond. Usually Jenn is the biggest kiss ass, and for the first time ever she was pushing back. Good on ya, Bunney. Although I have to say I think that Heidi probably got on Jenn's bad side from the start with her "you look so different!" comment when they first met up. Heh.

Other than that? I thought the Tiffany/Kristal comments were pretty funny, Lauren's shameless hitting on Brody was pathetic, and Audrina's putting up with JB's crap was really sad. And what exactly was Spencer "working" on that he couldn't help Heidi fold towels for their entire apartment complex? It looked like he was playing Nintendo. And his jackass response about Don Antonio's . . . well, Heidi has gotten exactly what she deserves.

I liked hearing the Cure this episode! MTV's music editors for this show are actually pretty good, I've gotta say.

I didn't really get the implication that Lauren wanted to hook up with Brody at his condo. I thought she just wanted to get everyone to hang out there. Maybe he has a Wii or something (and not like that).

I also noticed that both Spencer and Brody had iPhones in the 'breakup' scene. That means that at least happened in July since the phones were released at the very end of June. Who knows when the hell Audrina and Justin started talking again (which supposedly happened during the first episode), but at least we know four months have elapsed.

This show gives me major timeline headaches. I'm way too much of a continuity freak for an MTV reality show.

I can't believe they made Brent mention Brody and Lauren to Heidi. The guy is her BOSS and they're reducing him to rehashing petty shit we already know. That's what Jenn is for. On a more positive note, yay for Heidi still having a job!



We could chalk this up to Audrina not knowing that Spencer and Heidi were in Colorado. Though I'm sure the editing is still wonky because of Spencer and his lame 'stache.

I thought that the entire group was going to Brody's condo because I heard Frankie implying that he'd be there too. I think the editors made it seem like it was only them two there b/c it makes a more interesting story.

I cringed when Brent asked about Lauren and Brody. You know he was dreading it and he immediately went to the next subject.

TTTorrance, I think if there was a sex tape, it would have been released by now. However, I can see Spencer using Brody as a "source" and that's probably why they (Speidi) were shitting in their pants when they found out Lauren and Brody were hanging out again.

Tiffany Conrad?! Crystal-or-possibly-alternately-spelled-Kriystel-Conrad?! Too funny.

Spencer is so condescending to Hedi. Oh, i'll be helping you mentally darlin'. Ugh. It's your laundry too, you little bitch, so shut up and help fold.

I was laughing at the "Tiffany" and "Crystal" discussion between Whitney and Lauren! Whitney made a weird face and it was too funny.

My love for Brody (I never thought I'd type those words) knew no bounds when he called Spencer a bitch. Although Spencer had already hung up, it was still awesome.

I think that Justin-Bobby and Spencer should be new BFFs, they are both such jerks. If Heidi heard Brody talking about the sex tape, who was he talking to I wonder....Spencer would be my guess. I don't think there is a tape, I think Spencer and Heidi started the rumor. I agree that Jen Bunny looked great, and I liked that she asked Heidi some direct questions about Brody starting the rumor. I liked that there wasn't much Speidi in this episode. More Whitney and Lo!!!!

I have unconditional love for Brody now that he called Spencer what he is, a little bitch. Thank you Brody!

I still think Justin is hot, but he needs Stacy and Clinton, or Tim Gunn to give him an intervention. On what planet is wearing that outfit appropriate to a dinner? Come on JB.

Heidi looked really pretty in this episode. It looks like she finally filled in her eyebrows.

I'm for less Whitney. She really adds nothing to the show. She very ditsy and everything that comes out of her mouth seems really fake.. I'm not feeling all the love for her.

Yeah I also thought it was weird Brent asked about L/B. I mean how old is he? Why would he care? and just because L/B are hanging out doesn't mean they are dating.

Agreed that it is so odd for Brent to be asking about Lauren and Brody.

Does anyone else feel like this season of the Hills the episodes are only like 10 minutes long? There are so many commercials.