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greybear
"Flipping Out," premiering Tuesday, July 31st at 10PM ET/PT on Bravo, follows the antics of one of Los Angeles' most colorful real estate speculators, Jeff Lewis.


Antics. Colorful.

Bravo goes on to describe the star and the series with terms like: obsessive compulsive; disgruntled employees; psychics and spiritual healers; intriguing cast of characters; and the occasional confrontation. Evidently Jeff is gay--an ex-boyfriend shows up for the wacky hijinx. Jeff has a cat [named Monkey] who has acupuncture. Some of the supporting characters are ... ACTORS! What a surprise! What fun!

Bravo used to show wonderful independent films and series like Exposé, Arts & Minds, Bravo Profiles, Footnotes. Now it's a few decent "reality" shows and a lot of crappy ones. I think Flipping Out will definitely fall into the latter category.

More info at the Bravo site
xsandlapper
Ha! Everybody wants to be as popular as Richard Davis!
Shali
greybear, I absolutely would not give a shiz about watching this show if not for your description.

Bravo should hire you!!!!
greybear
OMG, did that backfire. I was hoping this show would quickly go away.

Well, who knows. Although all signs point to "crash and burn" it might turn out to be a pretty good show.




In some alternate universe.
OPP
Seriously, the train has already left the station with regards to flipping homes. There's already a surplus of flipping shows- Flip This House, Flip That House, The Real Deal, Property Ladder, etc.. Do we really need another one? At this point, with the current market conditions, I just can't see a company succesfully trying to flip homes.
Gharlane
Didn't Bravo already do a real estate agent candid reality show (or two or three)?
brightman73
I think the show looks HYSTERICAL!
And besides, I love "flip" shows.
nikitakitty
I doesn't sound like a reality show it sounds like a very badly scripted and acted sitcom which will have absymal production values. That's what these reality shows are evolving into now that they are so manipulated and populated with actor plants to 'fill out' their 'casts'. The producers of these things are barely even trying to hide the fact that they are manufacturing the drama and wacky hijinks these 'real' people are filmed engaging in.

There's no fun in watching fake people live fake lives invented for the cameras. I'd rather watch a tenth rerun of King of Queens and it'd have more relation to reality than these 'reality' shows do now.
michaeldh8
I doesn't sound like a reality show it sounds like a very badly scripted and acted sitcom which will have absymal production values.

I started to begin a thread in the How to Reality section, but I didn't think it belonged there, I thought about starting it here but I don't think it belongs here either, maybe we need an unscripted (highly staged) drama/comedy section.
greybear
There's already a surplus of flipping shows . . . Do we really need another one?

I'm pretty sure this won't be a flipping show. I'd be very surprised if viewers see any actual renovating. It's just gonna be more badly scripted, badly acted wacky hijinx from folks trying to get their 15 minutes.

Didn't Bravo already do a real estate agent candid reality show (or two or three)?

I think it was Bravo that had that other trainwreck called something like Million Dollar Listing?
henrysmom
I knew I probably wouldn't watch when I saw the receptionist dully reading the standardized phone greeting off a piece of paper taped to her cubicle wall. Having worked with that sort of "this is how we do it here"/hands around employee's throat type of management, I didn't think I could bear it.

But I'll probably watch anyway. I pretty much watch all the trash Bravo is shovelling up lately, when I'm not watching HGTV's line-up of drivel and complaining about it.
smileystar78
Thanks for the description, greybear. I caught the promo for this while watching and shaking my head in amazement at Paula Abdul and her show. I wondered what is was and now I know, and I won't be watching. One more drama queen on TV? BFD.
greybear
Yeh, I'm sure that Flipper Nation will be more entertaining.
michaeldh8
Yeh, I'm sure that Flipper Nation will be more entertaining.

It would be great if some network put on an honestly fake reality show like Flipper Nation.
Milburn Stone
I doesn't sound like a reality show it sounds like a very badly scripted and acted sitcom which will have absymal production values. That's what these reality shows are evolving into now that they are so manipulated and populated with actor plants to 'fill out' their 'casts'.

Good observation. I wonder what this evolving form should be called. Realicoms? (Pronounced ree-al-ee-coms.)
Gharlane
I saw ads for this show during Kathy Griffin's show last night. Good gawd, why are they promoting this show as being about a Blowhard clone that does houses instead of hair?
TTyT321
Didn't Bravo already do a real estate agent candid reality show (or two or three)?


Why they think the world of real estate is interesting is beyond me but like the other shows this one will probably bomb. The owner/designer looks like he's missing a few puzzle pieces from the board.
greybear
For me, real estate is interesting, but I doubt that this show will have much to do with that subject.
DMike
I don't know about whether or not this is real or scripted, but at least one of the guys is an actor. I knew I saw Chris the trash guy before, then I remembered that he was the obnoxious frat guy in How High. Granted, I guess one can be a struggling actor in Hollywood and still do sucky jobs, but a tv opportunity is a tv opportunity.
BondGirl74
The lead "character" seems seriously, mentally, disturbed. And abusive.
iamnot
And he looks just like Chris Sarandon.
angst o rama
Did this guy actually say that people wish they were him? I wasn't sure; I was doing chores and only had it on because I was waiting for Kathy's "date."

This show was stultifying. "I have money. Oh, wait--I have no money. I have OCD. Everything must be perfect. My 'people' are incompetent. My 'people' are my family. I love my 'people.' I fired my 'people.'"

Sweet Jesus in short pants.

NEXT!
DizzyEllie
Wait. Is this show real? From the promos, I thought it was satire. I did laugh at the promos, but only because it seemed so obvious it wasn't real. I missed the sneak-peak last night, anyone watch it and get a feel for if it is real (as in real people performing scripted scenes) or fake (as in actors performing scripted scenes)?

If it really is a reality show, the reality genre seems to have given up on trying to look nonscripted.
LogCabinPat
Didn't Bravo already do a real estate agent candid reality show (or two or three)?

I think it was Bravo that had that other trainwreck called something like Million Dollar Listing?

Which I understand is coming back for a second season. Can't wait.
gojuu
Saw the "sneek peek." Gawd What a snippy queen. BRAVO is starting to get a tad desperate methinks.
nique
The guy's face looked too plastic.
Gharlane
(BondGirl74)
The lead "character" seems seriously, mentally, disturbed. And abusive.
In other words, Jonathon Anton's straight non-haircutting twin.
Kakariki
In other words, Jonathon Anton's straight non-haircutting twin.


Except he doesn't even pretend to be straight. His business partner Ryan is his ex-boyfriend.
hubbahubba
What was Bravo thinking?!?! They're trying to make this guy quirky yet "entertaining." Surely the producers realize what a crapfest this is. I immediately went into my Tivo subscription list and unsubscribed. There are enough of these people in my life already to have to waste an hour watching them on TV. Why encourage them? Sheesh.

When Bravo gets it right (Project Runway, Top Chef despite Padma, etc.) they get it deliciously right. Please, Bravo, don't fall into the TLC gutter. The flip show ghetto is reminiscent of of TLC overplaying their Trading Spaces hand.
soymilk
They need to rename this show Risk Factors for a Nervous Breakdown: A Case Study.
NoFNclue
Is this on BRAVO or LOGO? Bravo TV seems to be putting anything gay related on their line-up. WHY, WHY are we being told what is funny, sexy, successful, worthwhile, valuable, and entertaining by gays (mostly MALE gays)??? I have no problem with homosexuality in and of itself, but why is it ALWAYS like the most important thing in their lives. I think I'm getting done with BRAVO anyways, I believe they are just pandering, trying to cash in on the gay community. Sorry if this sounds homophobic, I'm REALLY not trying to be, just sick of the crap. And this show looks like Grade A crap. Still lookin' 4 Klughs... (Ô¿Ô)

ETA: I may have chosen my words poorly. What I meant to say is more why do we always see stereotypical archetypes, I know there are people out there that don't broadcast their sexuality as the ones on TV do. We could all tell INSTANTLY that he was gay, could we not? The other point was about being "told" what is good or funny by the extreme liberal fringe elements. All these shows are working towards a plan of desensitization and immersion as part of campaign to gain universal acceptance of the homosexual lifestyle. Which is fine, I just don't wanna hear about it on TV. OOOH, and who is that girl? Does she think she's Julia Louis Dreyfus??
zelmia
Now, exactly who is this guy and just why should we give any kind of a shit?
Kakariki
I have no problem with homosexuality in and of itself, but why is it ALWAYS like the most important thing in their lives. I think I'm getting done with BRAVO anyways, I believe they are just pandering, trying to cash in on the gay community. Sorry if this sounds homophobic, I'm REALLY not trying to be, just sick of the crap.


If you are trying to not sound homophobic then maybe you should avoid saying things like, "why is [homosexuality] ALWAYS like the most important thing in their lives." Because that is an offensive claim and frankly not even in any way descriptive of what we have seen so far of this show. Thus far the most important things in his life seem to be perfectionism and control.
Gharlane
(NoFNclue)
Still lookin' 4 Klughs
IIRC, The Others shot her (in the gut) in season three.
NoFNclue
OT: Gunshots don't seem to kill.
chelseabelle
He and Jackie from Work Out have eerily similar facial features.
hazelpethig
That dude was rocking the lip injections just shy of Amanda Lepore. And his female assistant Really Really wants to be Karen Walker.
realdiva21
The guy who plays the "Garbage Man" I think his name was Chris, was on Punk'd I knew it the second I saw him!
Gharlane
(BondGirl74)
The lead "character" seems seriously, mentally, disturbed. And abusive.
OK, I'm watching the repeat of the "special". My gawd, what a deluded asshat.
heebiejeebie
He and Jackie from Work Out have eerily similar facial features.


It's downright creepy how they have the same plastic, puffy yet tightly smooth dead-eyed features. What makes it even more sick is the guy has the same shape of head as Jonathan Asstin. It's like BRAVO went out deliberately and found the one person who would llok exactly like the hell-spawn offspring of the two. Assuming the most closeted straight man in West Hollywood and the Uber Lesbian of All Time (so uber, to paraphrase the wonderful Alison Bechdel I believe -- she could singlehandedly hold back the North Sea from all of Holland) could actually spawn or that the world wouldn't end as soon as they did.

Not sure I can handle a third round of smug self-centered asshery that then probably gets all weepy because all the tool wants is to be perfect and no one is willing to sacrfice everything to make sure he can do so.

I do wonder, seeing how incestuous BRAVO is, if it turns out the guy just happens to be renovating a Yackie or Asstin house/property to flip or sell them? Any bets on whether he shows up at the gym or salon in an episode to establish BRAVO Total Tool Fauxality Show cred? It's not like we'll actually see the true tie -- he and Yackie both have Dr. 90210's BabyDoll # 15 face lift with weekly botox treatments. I can see Yackie tuning into BRAVO after one of her nightly alcohol splurges and blearily wondering when she became a brunette and why is she fixated on how the trash dumpsters are set.

As BRAVO aired The Restaurant repeats and has allowed him to sully the upcoming episode of Top Chef, I only think it is fair to make him divulge who cut him a new face. It's not bad ad far as too-young preventive aging face-lifts go. Granted, he needs to step back from the botox as his head in those previews scarily looked like he was going to break a new homerun record any day. But the actual knife work, even though he probably didn't need it unless he was in a horrific accident or fire I did not hear about, isn't bad and both Yackie and this FLipper could have been spared the spawn of David Guest look they both sport -- especialy in the horrors of natural light. Dude should not have allowed the crew to film him outside at all.
greybear
The best thing I can say about this show is that I'm glad Damages is on at the same time. Even fifth-run episodes of SVU would be better than this crap.
Circus Poodle
The preview really does not make the show seem enticing.

It seems much less 'watch as homes are beautifully transformed' and much more 'you thought Paula Abdul was the only asshat with a personality disorder who could pay people to be around her'.
MeyerLemons
How many more times is Bravo going to run the Sneak Preview? Good lord this show sucks. I didn't think it was possible for there to be anyone shown on reality TV that was more self-absorbed than Jonathan Antin, guess I was wrong! This guy makes JA seem self-depricating, modest, and giving. Oh, and he makes JA watchable. *shivers*
greybear
He's just another of these people who begin every sentence with "I" and end it with "me." For some reason, producers think this is interesting to the viewing public.
Maybe it is--to the same people who want to keep up with Paris Hilton and her ilk, but I'd like to think that there's an audience who'd like to look into the lives of people like Neil Tyson [my American idol].
medk
This show shouldn't be listed under either "candid" or "reality". I'm convinced it's a hoax, that there is no LA real estate flipper "Peter Lewis" who does exorcisms on his houses and just happens to select unknown actors for his hired help. I think it's like that stunt show on Spike (was it Joe Schmoe?) where one guy was made to think he was part of a reality show when in fact it was all scripted. Except that with Flipping Out the viewers are the schmoes. What's amazing is that if it's scripted, that means it's this annoying and unpleasant on purpose!
CleaPet
I watched the preview, meh. I think this show was pitched to the Bravo by the assistants, who probably promised Flipper to be a fascinating to watch, drama-inducing character, all in an effort to get on tv because they are all actors. I swear I've seen all of the three main assistants on tv before. And Bravo said yes simply because it fits their brand.

Those assistants are savvy. Bravo, not so much.
redundant1
Boy, was I let down. I'm addicted to all those house flipping/house selling shows--Property Ladder is my favorite--and this definitely wasn't what I expected.

This definitely has to be scripted. Even "The Real Estate Pros" shows the actual work behind the houses. He doesn't even seem like a true real estate investor. He could be in any line of work and this show would still be the same.

This show just seems like bad satire. Like a very unfunny version of "Best in Show" or something.

Boring!
AddictedToTV
The only thing that I absolutely loved was the preview for "This Season on Flipping Out" where they showed one of the assistants bringing in takeout and apparently Jeff's had onions even though he didn't want them and he just starting losing his shit. "I SAID NO FUCKING ONION! I MEAN FUCK!" "...but I said to them 'no onions', Jeff..." "YOU HAVE TO CHECK THE FUCKING BAG!"
greybear
I swear I've seen all of the three main assistants on tv before.
It's no accident that so many of these 'reality' shows are from the L.A. area. They want people who are comfortable in front of the camera and can sell that they're just having a normal [for them] type of day.
heebiejeebie
This definitely has to be scripted. Even "The Real Estate Pros" shows the actual work behind the houses. He doesn't even seem like a true real estate investor. He could be in any line of work and this show would still be the same.


I was wondering about just how long and how much he actually does. In one preview he comments that he is meticulously "restoring" properties. But that is not what flipping means at all. Restoring is taking a certain aspect of the home and bringing that back. Flipping is dusting off the turd at a cost that allows you to turn it around and sell at a good profit (otherwise short term capital gains combined with property tax issues can fuck you like a first night in prison).

I figured at first it was just the same script that they wrote for Asstin to compare hairstyling to surgery and law and astronauts and Yackie trying to convince us that she is saving lives in her little boutique gym. But then I started to wonder if the guy actually really knows what it is he is supposed to be doing. I know many real estate big wigs that sort of fell into the flipping aspect, make the big bucks out the deal and yet do little more than write the checks and scream in the phone.

I swear I've seen all of the three main assistants on tv before.


I have definitely seen "Everyone-tells-me-I-look-like-Julia-Louis-Dreyfuss" before on something. Something like a bit part on Joe Schmo. About that long ago. Though she also looks like someone whose headache was alleviated on an ad that ran nationally. And the water bottle turner also looks familiar. Muliple-fire guy I don't think I have,

ETA: My bad. Either my memory sucks (most likely) or they changed it because he says meticulous renovations. Not restoriations. So maybe he doe smean what eh says but it still strikes me as odd. Well he strikes me as odd.
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