ennui
Jun 27, 2007 @ 12:07 pm
In "Homecoming", Buffy lists Cordelia's faults on a whiteboard in the library. I must have watched this episode 3 or 4 times before I noticed that Buffy wrote "Xander" at the bottom of the list. Can't blame the guy for not helping her campaign after that!
It honestly took me at least a month of watching season 5 DVDs before I realized that when you play the episode, a graphic of blood dripping and opening the dimensional porthole wipes the menu screen. I just thought it was some kind of lightning effect.
The "Sheep" sticker on the ice cream truck wall in Xander's dream in "Restless" can also be seen on his bedroom wall in "Bewitched, Bothered, and Bewildered".
Speaking of "BB&B", it took me a few viewings to notice the two or three guys who check out Xander when he struts down the hall - hee!
So, what did you notice on second, third, or twenty-fourth glance?
Sissy BP
Jun 27, 2007 @ 12:18 pm
I recently rewatched "The Dark Ages" for the 3rd or 4th time (I just started watching BtVS about a year ago). I just realized that Giles is a Bay City Rollers fan - I replayed the line just to make sure I was hearing it right "Bay City Rollers. Now that's music" and I even checked the recaps to make sure that I had heard it right. Somehow I had never pictured Giles as a fan of the Bay City Rollers.
valny
Jun 27, 2007 @ 1:27 pm
In "Homecoming", Buffy lists Cordelia's faults on a whiteboard in the library. I must have watched this episode 3 or 4 times before I noticed that Buffy wrote "Xander" at the bottom of the list.
Ha, I never saw that either. There’s tons of stuff I always catch after multiple viewings. Since I’m here at work, I can’t really think what they are right now…but I know there’s tons! I’m sure I’ll be going back to look at the eps when everyone starts listing their findings.
Badwitch
Jun 27, 2007 @ 1:38 pm
Watching "School Hard" for maybe the 3rd time, I noticed (there's a technical term no doubt) that when Dru scatches Spike, that JL had a tube running up her finger for the blood that is JM's cheek.
And in "Him" you can see JM's reflection on the glass of the store when Xander and Spike are about to steal the jacket from what's-the-character's name. Though I can't remember if I noticed it the first time I saw it...I'm pretty sure not, though the first viewing was 4 years ago.
Loandbehold
Jun 27, 2007 @ 1:54 pm
Watching "School Hard" for maybe the 3rd time, I noticed (there's a technical term no doubt) that when Dru scatches Spike, that JL had a tube running up her finger for the blood that is JM's cheek.
I never noticed that before and I've seen School Hard, well, quite a few times. I'll definitely have to check for this next time 'round.
JerseyGirl291
Jun 27, 2007 @ 2:08 pm
I love the little "Xander" mention as one of Cordy's weaknesses. It's perfect.
ennui
Jun 27, 2007 @ 2:57 pm
Watching "School Hard" for maybe the 3rd time, I noticed (there's a technical term no doubt) that when Dru scatches Spike, that JL had a tube running up her finger for the blood that is JM's cheek.
Oo! I'll have to watch for that!
And in "Him" you can see JM's reflection on the glass of the store when Xander and Spike are about to steal the jacket from what's-the-character's name. Though I can't remember if I noticed it the first time I saw it...I'm pretty sure not, though the first viewing was 4 years ago.
They've had this happen a few times on the show. Both JM and DB got caught in a mirror/glass more than once. Actually, this reminds me of another one - there was one episode where Angel 'snuck up' on someone and startled them while they were looking into a glass or mirror, and I didn't get the first few times that it was because they didn't see his reflection. I thought it was because he was stealthy and quiet. I can't remember the episode, though.
Loandbehold
Jun 27, 2007 @ 3:21 pm
They've had this happen a few times on the show. Both JM and DB got caught in a mirror/glass more than once. Actually, this reminds me of another one - there was one episode where Angel 'snuck up' on someone and startled them while they were looking into a glass or mirror, and I didn't get the first few times that it was because they didn't see his reflection. I thought it was because he was stealthy and quiet. I can't remember the episode, though.
That's happened several times, including to Buffy in, I want to say Earshot. She is outside, looks at the mirror in her compact, turns around and there is tall, dark and brooding. She says something like, "I didn't see you so I should have known you were there."
ennui
Jun 27, 2007 @ 3:41 pm
I think Earshot was the one I was thinking of. Thank you!
roasty goodness
Jun 27, 2007 @ 4:44 pm
Not something I noticed on later viewing, so much as something I realised:
The scenes with Xander, Willow, and Anya eating, being loud and useless during a patrol in Fool For Love always bugged the crap out of me. Those guys had patrolled before and should know what they're doing, plus Buffy just got hurt on a routine patrol.
It wasn't until I watched it again a lot later I realised that there was a theme throughout the episode of getting over-confident. They were. Buffy was, so she got stabbed. Riley was, so he went after the vampire that stabbed Buffy all by himself.
I still think it was a poor piece of characterisation, but at least I can understand why it was done.
Jayelle
Jun 27, 2007 @ 4:51 pm
Restless is the major one of these for me. I get something new out of it everytime I watch it. I don't know how many viewings it took for me to notice that Olivia was pushing an empty baby carriage, or that Xander keeps ending up in the basement - no matter how hard he tries not to.
EpicAmends
Jun 27, 2007 @ 5:27 pm
Yeah, pretty much all of Restless was in the notice-upon-the-multiple-viewings category for me. I don't think it made any sense to me when I first saw it.
I'm marathoning my way through Buffy right now and just started S4, so I'll come back with some more specific Restless examples when I get to it.
JerseyGirl291
Jun 27, 2007 @ 5:32 pm
Someone makes a comment in Xander's dream in the sandbox scene (I think it was Buffy and Xander actually) - "Like a shark." "But on land." In "Tabula Rasa," of course, that annoying demon has a shark head, so that's two "Tabula Rasa" foreshadowings in the same scene, the second, of course, being the Giles/Spike father/son relationship.
Badwitch
Jun 27, 2007 @ 8:02 pm
It took me until I watched both "When she was bad" and "Tabula Rasa" in a short time period (opposed to, say, the 4+ years between the 2) that Cordy called Buffy "Joan" in WSWB, and Buffy picked the name "Joan" in TR.
TimeMonkey
Jun 27, 2007 @ 8:03 pm
The scenes with Xander, Willow, and Anya eating, being loud and useless during a patrol in Fool For Love always bugged the crap out of me. Those guys had patrolled before and should know what they're doing, plus Buffy just got hurt on a routine patrol.
I just see that as thier usual method. The Scoobies draw the vampires with thier noise making and defensless seeming and then Buffy slays them. If a vamp doesn't know there's food around it's going to go somewhere else.
Mr Nice
Jun 28, 2007 @ 3:11 am
I must have watched this episode 3 or 4 times before I noticed that Buffy wrote "Xander" at the bottom of the list. Can't blame the guy for not helping her campaign after that!
To be fair I'm fairly sure that list was headed "weaknesses". Now, who someone is in love with can be a weakness to be exploited, without casting aspersions on the lovee.
Still, I'm pretty sure I freeze framed that white board the first time i saw it on DVD (which would have been the 2nd or 3rd time in total), just to read those two lists.
ennui
Jun 28, 2007 @ 10:33 am
To be fair I'm fairly sure that list was headed "weaknesses". Now, who someone is in love with can be a weakness to be exploited, without casting aspersions on the lovee.
Perhaps, but if someone I was friends with said that my girlfriends/boyfriends love for me was their weakness, I'd be offended. It's implying that you're bad for them, or not good enough for them.
ZenLizzy
Jun 28, 2007 @ 10:45 am
To be fair I'm fairly sure that list was headed "weaknesses". Now, who someone is in love with can be a weakness to be exploited, without casting aspersions on the lovee.
I always took that as the fact that Cordy lost popularity by dating Xander it was a weakness to her Homecoming Queen bid. I think it implied before she started dating him it would have been an easy win for her. I think that's how Buffy was looking at it.
Set
Jun 28, 2007 @ 5:03 pm
While I would like to say that the Buffy who told Xander that he deserved someone 'more better' than Cordelia had listed him as a 'weakness' because she disapproved of Cordelia, it seems far more in line with an ep where she calls Cordelia a 'vapid whore' that she was actually dissing on Xander.
Hard to say. Buffy's treatment of her friends was terribly inconsistent, with her being best.friend.ever one day, and grousing about how tiresome Willow's post-Oz depression is the next... In one ep, Buffy seems to think that Xander's like a genderless sibling, in another he's the guy she leans on when everything falls apart, and then she seems to hold in him in contempt and talks smack about him with Willow. Her attitude is entirely a function of plot, which can be frustrating when the 'loyal Buffy' is replaced by the 'nasty Buffy,' often for little more than a cheap gag.
Jayelle
Jun 28, 2007 @ 5:24 pm
I would assume Xander's a weakness because Buffy can exploit him - use his friendship with her.
On topic:
I didn't notice until multiple viewings that in "Harsh Light of Day" Parker and Buffy go from dancing to kissing to sex all in the space of one song. It makes it seem just that much more fast. It's a great choice by the director.
valny
Jul 1, 2007 @ 10:02 pm
Nothing great, but I just noticed in Primeval that reanimated DeadForrest has a little red blinking in his left ear. I'm not a Primeval fan and I haven't even seen that ep many times.But I was watching The Yoko Factor the other day and just decided to keep going.
ennui
Jul 2, 2007 @ 12:41 am
A weird one - all this time, I thought that the episode was called "Bad Beer". Only tonight, while flipping through my episodes looking for something to watch did I notice that it's actually called, "Beer Bad". Which makes more sence, really.
JaydaLee
Jul 3, 2007 @ 1:46 pm
I noticed in Earshot when Buffy goes to see Angel, he jumps away from the light when she opens the curtain. Yet, look in the background and you notice beams of sunlight coming in everywhere. What's the deal with that?
Badwitch
Jul 3, 2007 @ 1:57 pm
I didn't notice until multiple viewings that in "Harsh Light of Day" Parker and Buffy go from dancing to kissing to sex all in the space of one song. It makes it seem just that much more fast. It's a great choice by the director.
It wasn't until recently I was re-watching season 6 that any ep. where you actually see people having sex, their is a song or music; you don't here sex sounds. Though, for ex., Dead Things (I think) you hear people having sex but then you don't see them.
ennui
Jul 3, 2007 @ 2:19 pm
I just found out today that Tom Lenk played one of Harmony's minions in "Real Me" before he was ever Andrew. I didn't recognize him because he spends the entire episode in vampface.
Erratic
Jul 3, 2007 @ 2:45 pm
It wasn't until recently I was re-watching season 6 that any ep. where you actually see people having sex, their is a song or music; you don't here sex sounds.
Much worse than that is the *slurping* sounds at the start of 'Seeing Red' before the camera pulls up to Willow and Tara 'readjusting' from a sexual act.
Pixxiesticks
Jul 3, 2007 @ 2:52 pm
You can see Spike's reflection in the back window of the subway in Fool for Love. They're really kinda bad about that actually.
cristarain
Jul 3, 2007 @ 4:26 pm
Just watched Graduation Day Part II, and revisited the awkwardness in Wesley and Cordelia's only kiss. I remembered it being weird, like it was two siblings making out, and that they end it with a "Ok well, good luck with ya" kinda feeling. But after watching it again I noticed that Wesley never actually touches Cordy with his hands --- never puts his arms around her or anything. I wondered if they wanted it to appear like he'd never kissed a girl ever before. Its one of the most uncomfortable moments in Buffy history for me.
ZenLizzy
Jul 3, 2007 @ 11:51 pm
I'm watching Blood Ties, the part where they split up to go look for Dawn after she runs away... Giles and Xander are together and Giles keeps looking in dumpsters and trash cans. He was either being incredibly thorough or incredibly pessimistic about what condition they were going to find her.
Badwitch
Jul 4, 2007 @ 9:33 am
In "Him" there's the part right after RJ (or AJ, whatever his name is) comes to the Summer's home and runs into Willow and Anya. So Willow and Anya are arguing at the door after he leaves and Buffy and Dawn show up. The three non-teens talk about how they are going to get RJ to like them, so Willow goes up the stairs and Buffy and Dawn are going to the living room but Buffy stops to tell Dawn that Dawn will never get RJ. But the thing is that Willow was going up the stairs, the point of view changes, and then we see the stairs again and we see Willow facing the door (actually you see her hands and below her neck) but it's not like she is talking to anyone, Anya left and Buffy's back is to her and Buffy is talking to Dawn. Then the point of view changes. So it seems Willow is talking to someone but no one is there, unless it was an editing gaff.
Eegah
Jul 4, 2007 @ 10:29 am
I didn't notice until reading the recap for Doppelgangland that the blondewoman VampWillow gets all weird with in the bar and then kills is later one of the vampires that Riley kills when he's going through his weird period. Though as the recap points out, she was never sired, so if it is meant to be the same person that's a pretty big goof.
Loandbehold
Jul 4, 2007 @ 10:42 am
Yeah, the vamp was Sandy, who returned to eventually be staked by Riley. No, we didn't see her get sired. We also didn't see Harmony get sired and given the battle going on, I have my doubts about the vamp who killed her having the time to stop and sire her.
cagewench
Jul 4, 2007 @ 4:49 pm
never mind... lost my train of thought
koweja
Jul 6, 2007 @ 1:55 pm
The biggest "holy crap" realization for me was when I realized that the one Watchers' Council member that gets turned into a vampire in Helpless is played by Dominic Keating, who played Malcom Reed on Star Trek: Enterprise.
Other things I just realized (yesterday) was that the one vampire that participates in Slayer Fest '98 is Hector Gorch, who was the same one from Bad Eggs.
Another little bit of continuity is that in the Wishverse, Buffy comes to Sunnydale from Cleaveland, which according to Gilies in Chosen is where another hellmouth is located.
smonsoon
Jul 6, 2007 @ 8:56 pm
I never before noticed Tara's "jazz hands" during Willow's line in "I've Got a Theory" from OMWF...
Badwitch
Jul 6, 2007 @ 9:05 pm
I still don't notice the point where Tara bumps into a column when she and Anya provide backup for Buffy in OM,WF.
valny
Jul 6, 2007 @ 9:26 pm
Well,you never really actually see her hit the pole since it's a bit off screen, she kind of bounces off it. Just keep your eyes on her all the way and you'll get a sense of her bumping into it.
smonsoon
Jul 7, 2007 @ 4:02 pm
I noticed that in Buffy's scenes with Spike in "Life Serial", she is wearing the same top she was wearing at the Magic Box, but she has changed from a skirt into jeans. I thought it was a nice, realistic costuming decision - it's the sort of thing I would do after work (the clothing change, I mean, not the hard drinking and kitten poker with demons...)
nitrodan
Jul 9, 2007 @ 6:08 pm
I just found out today that Tom Lenk played one of Harmony's minions in "Real Me" before he was ever Andrew.
Speaking of Real Me, I didn't notice until recently that Peaches (one of Harmony's minions) was a girl. I always found it hilarious that they called a guy Peaches only she wasn't a guy at all.
ennui
Jul 10, 2007 @ 9:47 am
Speaking of Real Me, I didn't notice until recently that Peaches (one of Harmony's minions) was a girl. I always found it hilarious that they called a guy Peaches only she wasn't a guy at all.
Allegedly, Spike one time called Angel Peaches. I have no idea what episode it came from (and have very little desire to look through all of them!), but fanfic writers have seized on it. When Harmony said "You're Peaches friend," I assumed she meant he was a friend of Angel's (though...that doesn't really make much sense, as Angel didn't have too many vamp friends at that point.)
Jayelle
Jul 10, 2007 @ 10:33 am
It wasn't until really recently that I found out that Zachary Kralig (the psycho-vamp in Helpless) is also Rack. It seems so obvious when you know.
ennui
Jul 10, 2007 @ 10:40 am
Wow! I didn't know that! Funny, because Kralig is one of my favorite one shot villians, where as Rack...well, let's not go there.
Dennys
Jul 10, 2007 @ 10:53 am
Speaking of Real Me, I didn't notice until recently that Peaches (one of Harmony's minions) was a girl. I always found it hilarious that they called a guy Peaches only she wasn't a guy at all.
Peaches isn't a guy? Heh, I always assumed it was, since he gang wasn't looking all that feminine.
TimeMonkey
Jul 10, 2007 @ 11:22 am
It took me a couple viewings to figure out that The Judge was also Luke.
AnnieF
Jul 10, 2007 @ 11:28 am
Allegedly, Spike one time called Angel Peaches.
It's in "Lover's Walk," in the kitchen right after Buffy invites Angel in:
Spike: Doesn't work like that, peaches. And when did you become all soul-having again? I thought you outgrew that.
Freckles101
Jul 10, 2007 @ 3:38 pm
Until rewatching Welcome To the Hellmouth last week, I didn't notice that Willow's outfit on the first day of school (which Cordy mocks) is the same one that she wears in her dream in Restless.
Badwitch
Jul 11, 2007 @ 8:27 pm
In Chosen, there's the scene where Buffy walks down to the basement and we see Spike hitting the punching bag. Now in my copy *coughChinesecrap*cough*ripoff* I see on the left hand side of the screen, while Buffy is walking down the stairs and walking toward Spike, that there might be a camera crew. But the most noticeable thing is that there is this black block that seems to be edited in. If it was just something wrong with my copy, the black block would move in and out of frame as Buffy moved around, but it's constantly on the left hand side of the screen until we get the angle where we see "Beavis" on the punching bag.
EpicAmends
Jul 11, 2007 @ 11:12 pm
I just found out today that Tom Lenk played one of Harmony's minions in "Real Me" before he was ever Andrew. I didn't recognize him because he spends the entire episode in vampface.
I started rewatching S5 yesterday, and I recognized him only because of his voice.
Speaking of double characters, I noticed while watching Fool For Love that the actress who played Halfrek played the girl who rejected Spike right before he became a vampire.
Superflyse
Jul 12, 2007 @ 5:56 am
I was watching Teacher's Pet today and for the first time noticed that when Xander is at the She-Mantis' place just before Xander goes "What was that?" or "Did you hear that" I actually heard some kind of yelling which I had never noticed before.
I just always thought Xander was paranoid or crazy or something.
Though, in the case of things I still haven't noticed is that apparently in the Wish when Cordy first mets VampXander there is a newspaper in the background that says "Xander Harris- Vampire!" or something and no matter how many times I go through that scene even in slow motion I can't see it.
ennui
Jul 12, 2007 @ 9:19 am
Oh, that would be cool though! Xander Harris - Vampire! I have one of those as well - someone (on this board, I think) said that in Bewitched, Bothered, and Bewildered, when Oz is looking for the Buffyrat, he starts humming "Ben". I've watched that episode half a dozen times over looking for that scene, but I've never heard him hum anything.
This is a "lo-fi" version of our main content. To view the full version with more information, formatting and images, please
click here.