Since there's a JD/Elliot thread I decided there has to be one for Turk and Carla. I love them so, so much. Best TV couple ever.

I agree. So adorable. I also like that their relationship is realisitc and healthy (at least, relative to other television shows). They waited a good long time to get to know each other before they had sex, they went through rough patches, they've consistently moved forward with their relationship. There was never any "will they won't they?" it was always, "they will."

For me, their highlight of cuteness was the I'm Dominican Tango. I know it wasn't strictly Scrubs canon Turk & Carla but they moved together so well, which says so much about their chemistry.

They're so cute. And throw in Mocha Cub for extra cuteness. I love the Turks.

I love when Mocha Cub was born and re. JD Carla was all "that's the guy you're going to have to compete with for your father's attention."

I love that despite being together for almost the entirety of the show, I don't ever want to see them with other people. Their relationship is so realistic, something rarely seen on TV.

Oh, and I love Mocha Cub too; that baby has the most squeezable cheeks ever.

It's so rare that you see a couple get together at the beginning of the series and *stay together* throughout the show's run, and still remain interesting and likable. They've had problems, sure, but I never thought there was a chance they'd really break up.

Oh, I just love them so much. They are honestly my favorite tv couple ever. One of my favorite scenes with the two of them is in My Bed Banter & Beyond. Carla gets a strike and she and Turk celebrate so adorably. It makes me happy every time I see it.

I was watching the Season 3 season finale on dvd the other day and Carla came off like a total bitch. All she did the whole episode was scream and yell that no one could see her on her wedding day because it was bad luck, and no one did see her and the wedding was a disaster. But did Carla apologize? Fuck no, it was everyone else who had to apologize to her.

Bitch.

How did Carla not wanting people to see her on the wedding day have any effect on the wedding going wrong? Last time I checked, he was the one in surgery (and he didn't *have* to work that shift), he was the one who went to the wrong church, and it's not her fault that the band got sick, or that Cox and Jordan decided not to show up for the ceremony...I'm really confused as to what she's supposed to apologize for when everyone else screwed up.

Oh come on.

Instead of bringing good luck, Carla's endless bleatings about no one being allowed to see her before the wedding made the thing an unmitigated disaster. If she hadn't been such a pissy bitch about it, then things would have gone differently. Think about it. If he's not allowed to even look at her before the tow of them are actually standing at the alter together, then why should Turk hang around the church? Instead he makes a little extra money and gets some more time for their honeymoon, (which Carla didn't appreciate.) If Turk had been allowed to see Carla before the event he wouldn't have been late, etc.

Because expecting a) her fiance to be on time for his own wedding and b) expecting he'll show up at the right church are the bare minimum requirements for the groom on the wedding day? Those are not ridiculous, over-the-top, diva requests. That's the *least* you should expect from the man you want to marry. As for her so-called "bitchy" behavior - she's the bride, it's an important day, and she's stressed out. Of course she's not going to be a perfect little wifey beforehand, especially when her fiance acts like it's no big deal if he's late for the wedding. I don't blame Turk for the surgery going late - he couldn't control that. I don't blame him for going to the wrong church - that's an honest mistake. But it's natural that Carla would be disappointed. Usually, at a wedding, people actually get married.

"The wedding is ruined because Carla's a nasty bitch!' is in no way the point of the episode or the intention of the writers. I'm completely flummoxed as to how anyone could come up with that interpretation.

Word, queenofdenile. Carla is a sweetheart compared to what you see on Bridezillas.

While I don't think she had many shining moments in the lead-up, Carla handled the actual wedding disasters pretty well all things considered. She and Turk had a reasonable conversation about everything at the reception, rather than her storming off or, say, force-feeding him some of the bad shrimp that took the band out.

I'll try and cut to the chase:

1) Carla has this demented notion that if a single person sees her on her wedding day before she and Turk are actually up there together before the priest at the alter that bad luck/disaster will happen.
2) Because Carla is acting like an uber-bitch Turk and everyone else go along and no one sees her on her wedding day with the exception of Elliot and perhaps her sisters. Also because Turk isn't allowed to spend anytime with Carla before the actual wedding begins, rather then being bored out of his fucking mind, he decides to make a little extra money and get a couple extra days for their honeymoon. This of course, ends in disaster, with him being late and going to the wrong church.
3) Why did #2 happen? Because of Carla's demented notion of bad luck in #1. If she had been even halfway sane and reasonable instead of being an uber-bitch Turk wouldn't have been late and wouldn't have gone to the wrong church because he would have been with Carla a good bit of the day.
4) Therefore, Carla was an uber-bitch and entirely in the wrong with her blaming everyone else and everyone else apologizing to her. It should have been the other way around. QED.

At least in my own experience, no bride has time on her wedding day to baby sit the groom. Turk has already expressed that he wants Carla to have her dream wedding (can’t remember the name of the episode but they call off the wedding in the hospital chapel). IMO, she should then be given the time to prepare for that. Perhaps, because it is a nerve-wracking day, the best man or other friends should have kept Turk company, but, as seen in other episodes, he doesn’t usually have a problem being left by himself.

Exactly, Roslyn. Turk wanting to work an extra shift had nothing to do with Carla's "bitchiness" causing a Bad Karma Cloud that destroys everyone's happiness and ruins all the wedding plans. He just wanted a few extra days on their honeymoon. And Turk has never been portrayed as someone who has nothing to do because his girlfriend/fiancee/wife is doing something else or hanging out with other people. Rather, Carla is the one who is often without Turk because he's too busy playing with JD.

The idea that Carla's so-called nastiness was the reason the wedding was "ruined" was not the point of the episode, especially since at the end, the wedding really wasn't ruined after all. Ted's band provided the music, there was happy dancing, and they got married at the end - it ended on a high note with a kiss in a hospital room as they run off to their honeymoon while a Beatles cover played in the background. It's not something Turk and Carla are going to feel bitter about for the rest of their lives. Before the reception was even over, both were laughing about it.

I don't see any support for that in the episode at all. Turk works the extra shift purely to get extra time for the honeymoon, totally independent of Carla not wanting him to see her before the wedding.

If anyone screws up the wedding, it's Turk for a) working on the day of the wedding despite all the potential for that to screw things up and b) getting the churches mixed up. I'm more inclined to a) blame cancer and b) call that an honest mistake, but I don't see how Carla can be blamed at all.

Great point, queenofdenile. Like J.D. says in the episode where Carla finds out that everyone already knows she is pregnant, it's one of those moments when you know they will be together forever. Carla realizes that the reality of being married to Turk is much better than the dream of the wedding. The wedding and pregnancy episodes are both great proof of what a great couple this is.

I was thinking about this myself. If I was going to make a case for Carla being unreasonable, I would point to episodes from season 4 ("If you can't remember to put the cap on the toothpaste how are we going to raise our children? You know what? I'm going to stay with my sister") but even so, those moments all seemed like typical Scrubs absurdity for the sake of a joke. I agree that the wedding episode is a testament to both Turk and Carla's ability to relax under (relative) pressure and that is what makes them so strong. They are pretty good at seeing the big picture. I mean, if we all flipped our lids at the slightest thing, how would anyone stand to be around us, hence, how would we ever get laid? Maybe I'm putting the cart before the horse.

One thing I've noticed about Carla and Turk is how major events in their life have revolved around other people's asses. #1: The Ass Pen, when Turk first expressed his feelings for Carla and they first made with the freaky-freak. #2: The engagement ring, which had been through Ralphie's system (Turk: Why is it disgusting? Ralphie: Because it was in my butt!) and #3: the possible names for Baby Turk (before she was Isabella); Angie, the hamster who Doug found in some dead guy's colon, who contributed to one of my favorite cold openings.

I've noted this before, but I'm bringing it up again to serve as an example of a theme running throughout their relationship. Anyone else notice any subtle themes for Carla and Turk?

Speaking of Angie the butt-hamster.... I'm guessing this had something to do with Carla and Turk not naming the baby Angela, as they'd earlier decided. But how did they come to choose Isabella? I know that NBC had some sort of "name the baby" poll, but was the name change ever addressed on the show?

I'd rather go through life knowing I shared a name with a butt-hamster than be called "Izzy" for the rest of my life. But then again, I think I'd rather simply be named "Mocha Cub". Not only is it way cool, but I'd never have to share my name with another kid at school. :-)

I like Turk and Carla's relationship. They truly love each other, warts and all. Yeah, Carla can be a bit of a control freak and Turk can horribly immature, but after all is said and done, they wouldn't want to be with anyone else. Another refreshing thing is that they're relationship is balanced. They're not sickly sweet like Mike and Carol Brady, or hateful and argumentative (think Ray and Debra on Everybody Loves Raymond). They just have their ups and downs like all couples.

I totally approve of the name Isabella (it's actually one of my favorite names), though hopefully the parents will be the only ones who call her Izzy.

Turk and Carla are one of my favorite tv couples ever. I'm glad that a show finally realizes that normal, stable couples can be interesting.