caia1970
May 17, 2007 @ 1:40 pm
NEW AMSTERDAM (Wednesdays, 9:00-10:00 PM ET/PT): Directed and executive-produced by visionary Lasse Hallstrm ("My Life As a Dog," "The Cider House Rules," "Chocolat," "The Hoax") and written by Allan Loeb ("Things We Lost in the Fire," "21") and Christian Taylor ("Showboy," "Six Feet Under"), NEW AMSTERDAM is the story of a New York homicide detective unlike any other. He is brilliant, mysterious, reckless, magnetic, unknowable. And he has a profound secret he is immortal. In 1642, JOHN AMSTERDAM (Nikolaj Coster Waldau, "Kingdom of Heaven"), then a Dutch solider in the colony of New Amsterdam later to become New York City stepped in front of a sword to save the life of a Native Indian girl during a massacre of her indigenous tribe. The girl in turn rescued Amsterdam, weaving an ancient spell that conferred immortality upon him. Amsterdam will not age, she told him, until he finds his one true love. Only then will he become whole and ready for mortality. But Amsterdam has found this to be a mixed blessing. Over the course of three centuries, he's experienced endless adventure and honed his many talents. But everyone Amsterdam meets must leave him in time; lovers and children die while he remains young. His sole confidant and current lifelong friend is the sage jazz club owner OMAR (Stephen Henderson, "Law & Order: SVU"), the keeper of Amsterdam's secret, as well as a few of his own. As the exhilaration of eternal life has given way to emotional isolation and bitter loneliness, Amsterdam discovers the blessing has become a curse. Bringing to bear the unorthodox techniques and unique knowledge gained from his vast life experience, Amsterdam today is one of the NYPD's best homicide detectives, sparring with his vibrant, strong-willed partner EVA MARQUEZ (Zuleikha Robinson, "Rome," "The Lone Gunmen") as they solve difficult murder cases. But when Amsterdam suffers and then recovers from what appears to be a massive heart attack while chasing a suspect, and DR. SARA DILLANE (Alexie Gilmore, "Find Love") pronounces him dead in the ER, he realizes that the Indian girl's prophesy may have come true he felt the pain in his heart that she had foretold so long ago. His soul mate must have been nearby. As he works to find a killer on the streets of New York, Amsterdam understands that his own life and possibly his death have changed forever.
PRODUCTION COMPANIES: Regency Television, Scarlet Fire Films
EXECUTIVE PRODUCERS: Allan Loeb, David Manson, Lasse Hallstrm, Leslie Holleran, Steven Pearl
WRITERS: Allan Loeb & Christian Taylor
DIRECTOR: Lasse Hallstrm
CAST: Nikolaj Coster Waldau as John Amsterdam, Zuleikha Robinson as Eva Marquez, Alexie Gilmore as Dr. Sara Dillane, Stephen Henderson as Omar
If they include flashbacks to 'Olden Times' this could be really cool. If they don't then probably not.
jeet
May 17, 2007 @ 1:48 pm
Cast Peter Wingfield as an even older immortal and I'm in.
Ancient Nick
May 17, 2007 @ 4:28 pm
Looking forward to watching this. If it is done well it has the potential to be a very cool show. I agree that flashbacks to olden times would be awesome.
kieyra
May 18, 2007 @ 2:02 am
Wow, they are hitting the genre stuff hard on the major networks this fall. Pushing Daises on ABC (guy brings the dead back to life), Moonlight on CBS (vampire detective, yes, another one. No, another other one), Reaper on CW...it's like the 'alien invasion' overload a couple of years back (fathom/threshold/invasion), but with death, immortality, and detectives. I wonder if any of them will fail to suck.
Julirose
May 20, 2007 @ 7:26 am
This show has promise. It isn't exactly like everything else out there. I like the little twist to the immortal detective story. He's not a vampire and he doesn't have to go around lopping off heads. He just has to fall in love with the right woman.
And Fox is likely going to break my heart with this show the way they did with Drive... miserable SOB's.
SanLynn
May 20, 2007 @ 1:04 pm
Cast Peter Wingfield as an even older immortal and I'm in.
Heh, I'm right with you on that one.
jeet
May 20, 2007 @ 2:50 pm
Wait, Lasse Hallstrom directed this?
After more than 20 years and a goodly amount of pablum he's directed since then, "My Life as a Dog" still earns Lasse Hallstrom a great deal of good will from me.
Mr. Excitement
May 20, 2007 @ 11:41 pm
I'm not sure about this one, based on the described premise: frankly, it just sounds like Angel, but with the addition of 17th-century Native Americans who had magic that could make people immortal. Uh huh. Talk about throwing away the candy bar and eating the wrapper; call me attitudinally unsuited to working in television, but it strikes me as kind of stupid to go far enough off the sanity map to set up that premise and then discard it for a modern-day cop show when you could change direction slightly and have a potentially kickass series about magic-wielding Delaware fighting off the Dutch and the English (though, admittedly, the cop-show idea does have the virtue of being slightly cheaper).
Anyway, I don't think much of its chances; they're planning to launch it in the fall by putting it on Tuesdays at 8, the better to catch people who might turn over to Fox before House, but as soon as Idol comes back, the plan is to put it on-drum roll, please-Friday, and I'm sure we all know how much value Fox places on giving genre shows the chance to get entrenched on Friday.
whatthenelly
May 23, 2007 @ 9:50 pm
I saw the commercial on TV for the first time tonight and it sold it to me. I'll definitely check it out. This is one of those that could go either way on the quality spectrum that's for sure.
Mia Nina
May 25, 2007 @ 12:46 am
I never knew of this until a few hours ago. I saw a commercial and while yes, "here we go again" crossed my mind, I couldn't help but be interested. It's pretty useless of me to try to resist a genre show.
lidja
May 29, 2007 @ 9:16 pm
They showed a short preview(clips) over the ending credits of the season finale of House, since apparently they are going to be paired together in the fall. Of course that didn't help what was it? Standoff?
Unlike Angel it doesn't sound like this main character is a cop to atone for any misdeeds, though that might change.
ETA: I was trying to figure out who the lead actor reminded me of, and its Denis Leary.
Julirose
May 29, 2007 @ 10:31 pm
lidja, Yes it was Standoff.
Another fine example of why I try not to get attached to anything on Fox. Good show, good actors... Pfffft! gone!
This will probably be nice while it lasts... if it lasts...
ETA: Might as well label the timeslot for American Ick... err, Idol as the Kill Slot on Fox.
magicdog
May 30, 2007 @ 3:35 am
it strikes me as kind of stupid to go far enough off the sanity map to set up that premise and then discard it for a modern-day cop show when you could change direction slightly and have a potentially kickass series about magic-wielding Delaware fighting off the Dutch and the English (though, admittedly, the cop-show idea does have the virtue of being slightly cheaper).
Agreed - although then you'd have to deal with the fact the Indians eventually lost.
I've seen the clips (I work at a FOX affiliate) and I'm not impressed. Amsterdam's accent is a bit distracting (even Angel lost his Irish accent after a century or so) and I'm not sensing any chemistry between the leads).
Dinya
May 30, 2007 @ 5:44 pm
I'm going to check this out as it does sound intriguing. It meets one of my standards, and that is it must have eye candy. Nikolaj Coster Waldau, who I've seen in "Wimbledon" and "Firewall" certainly fits the bill.
TheExaultedOne
May 30, 2007 @ 8:07 pm
It's amazing what a good trailer can do. After watching it I'm now actually interested in this show and will definately check it out. I just barely remember Nikolaj Coster Waldau from "Wimbledon", but he really impressed me in the trailer and I'm looking forward to seeing more.
OpheliasCat
May 31, 2007 @ 3:06 am
Definitely a new pilot that I'm looking forward to watching. I'm such a sucker for sci-fi.
Still doesn't replace the Veronica Mars void in my heart, but....ah well. New! Shiny!
Edited to add.....
Geez....top of page for THAT lousy post? Um..I'm looking forward to a bunch of jazz music scenes being infused throughout the show. Hooray for the jazz nightclub owner friend! Oh, and I agree with an above post; I do hope we get lots of flashbacks. Old style New York would be pretty fun to see.
Sunidesus
Jul 18, 2007 @ 1:26 pm
I swear a co-worker was reading a book a couple years ago with this exact premise. I haven't found anything saying the show is based on a book though. Anyone have any idea what I'm remembering?
lidja
Jul 18, 2007 @ 2:22 pm
Fox has announced the show will premiere on Sept. 25th. I guess Fox decided this year not to premiere their shows early.
Bruinsfan
Jul 18, 2007 @ 4:19 pm
Probably because they want to be still airing original programming other than American Idol and House in November. "Jenkins, we'll run out of shows to cancel before Halloween at this rate!"
Hegel88
Aug 3, 2007 @ 3:24 pm
Syfy Portal is reporting that
New Amsterdam has been put on hold until mid-season.
It looks like Fox is not convinced that "New Amsterdam" is going to be the network's next big hit.
The network has pulled the "Highlander" sound-a-like off its fall schedule, moving it to mid-season when people actually tune in to watch Fox. In fact, according to Variety, that's exactly what network officials are hoping to accomplish: More viewers in the fall when "American Idol" isn't dominating the schedule.
Jacobite
Aug 3, 2007 @ 4:20 pm
The book you are thinking of is Pete Hamill's novel Forever: (description from Amazon)
"The year is 1741 and this is the story of Cormac O'Connor-"Irish, and a Jew"-who grows up in Ireland under English Protestant rule and is secretly schooled in Gaelic religion, myth and language. Seeking to avenge the murder of his father by the Earl of Warren, he follows the trail of the earl to New York City. On board ship, Cormac befriends African slave Kongo, and once in New York, the two join a rebellion against the British. After the rising is quelled, mobs take to the streets and Kongo is seized. Cormac saves Kongo from death, but is shot in the process. His recovery takes a miraculous turn when Kongo's dead priestess, Tomora, appears and grants Cormac eternal life and youth-so long as he never leaves the island of Manhattan, thus the "Forever" of the title. What follows is a portrait of the "city of memory of which Cormac was the only citizen." Cormac fights in the American Revolution, sups with Boss Tweed (in a very sympathetic portrait) and lives into the New York of 2001. In that year he warily falls in love with Delfina, a streetwise Dominican ("That was the curse attached to the gift: You buried everyone you loved"), and comes into contact with a descendant of the Earl of Warren, the newspaper publisher Willie Warren. His love, his drive for revenge and his very desire to exist are fatefully challenged on the eve and the day of September 11. This rousing, ambitious work is beautifully woven around historical events and characters, but it is Hamill's passionate pursuit of justice and compassion-Celtic in foundation-that distinguishes this tale of New York City and its myriad peoples."
I hope Hamill got some kind of payoff, because the plots are awfully close....
Mia Nina
Aug 3, 2007 @ 10:26 pm
I was looking forward to this. My bad luck with shows continue. Ohhh, FOX, you're just tempting me to drop the whole network. Not that it would matter but I'd feel better. Ugh.
This better be on the mid season schedule.
Hegel88
Aug 4, 2007 @ 10:34 am
I hope Hamill got some kind of payoff, because the plots are awfully close....
The producers claim they knew nothing about the book nor the two Canadian series
Highlander or
Forever Knight which are similar.
Ethan815
Aug 4, 2007 @ 1:23 pm
Word is that FOX’s new head guy Reilly doesn’t like the series and thinks FOX made a mistake by picking it up. I’m guessing New Amsterdam will also get bumped from its January timeslot, and will either air as a summer show, or not at all.
Fate3
Aug 4, 2007 @ 8:53 pm
Dang, I'm really disappointed by the latest news of the show being pushed back! It was like the only one of the new pilots that I thought looked really interesting. Dang it.
And I watched both "Highlander" and "Forever Knight" and not sure how this one is a rip off of those. "Highlander" was about one Immortal of many who were fighting to be "the only one," and "Forever Knight" was about a vampire.
SilentRunning
Aug 5, 2007 @ 4:49 pm
And I watched both "Highlander" and "Forever Knight" and not sure how this one is a rip off of those. "Highlander" was about one Immortal of many who were fighting to be "the only one," and "Forever Knight" was about a vampire
I agree.. I never watched Highlander since I tried and it bored me so never got into it but did watch Forever Knight and loved it but agree no comparison so do not understand all the uproar ..
Zanne
Aug 5, 2007 @ 4:57 pm
And I watched both "Highlander" and "Forever Knight" and not sure how this one is a rip off of those.
It's probably just immortal creature losing loved ones with the use of flashbacks to tie historial experience to modern-day events. I liked that about both
Forever Knight and
Highlander, so I'm not complaining. Just shows history repeats itself on a pesonal and world-wide scale.
Zoti Bemba
Aug 30, 2007 @ 1:21 pm
More on Pete Hamil,
Forever and
New Amsterdam from CNN:
Author suspicious of similar character on TVThe article mentions a September 6 premiere for
New Amsterdam "at a Manhattan theater" -- have no idea what that's about or if it's accurate in any way.
Bruinsfan
Aug 30, 2007 @ 2:03 pm
I wish this meant that Nikolaj Coster-Waldau would be freed up and Showtime would have another go at Filthy Gorgeous.
ProfCrash
Aug 30, 2007 @ 2:12 pm
Cast Peter Wingfield as an even older immortal and I'm in.
Glad to know I was not the only one thinking this.
I guess Sci Fi/Fantasy is a lot like iother genres, the same themes are going to get kicked around. There are not too many original ideas in new Sit Coms or Dramas so why would we expect more from Sci Fi. But I heard about this and went "Oh Highlander is back" then I heard about the book Forever and rolled my eyes.
I can buy that they had not read the book but to not know Highlander? Please. even my friends who ahve not watched the movies or seen the TV Series know the base premise.
That said, I will be watching. I am a sucker for Immortal hunky men. It would be better if he had a sword, that would guarentee that I watch it no matter what.
Daliden
Aug 31, 2007 @ 5:37 am
Also consider the book from which this show allegedly is ripped off . . . an immortal living in New York named O'Connor who is searching for the One. Those feet look somewhat clayish, don't you think? =D
Trini Girl
Sep 8, 2007 @ 9:14 pm
I have to say, the premise of this show really intriques me, and I'll be watching the pilot; but with FOX's record of cancelling shows, I'm afraid of getting attached.
New Amsterdam Premiere
mondlerlove
Sep 10, 2007 @ 4:12 pm
I like the sound of this show alot. It aired last week at the New York Television Festival, unfortunately I wasn't able to go to it. :(
LingPetunia
Sep 12, 2007 @ 8:39 pm
I have to say, the premise of this show really intriques me, and I'll be watching the pilot; but with FOX's record of cancelling shows, I'm afraid of getting attached.
I'm terrified that this show will be just as amazing as I think it will be, and Fox will cancel it. What are any of your thoughts? Do you think it stands a chance?
Why is every new show that looks good on the same night? Wednesdays will be very busy for my DVR this season.
Satanic Counsel
Sep 13, 2007 @ 9:36 am
I'm so down for this show it hurts. And while there are a lot of similarities and yeah, someone is probably ripping him off, I have to point out that when I was a kid and watching Buck Rogers I imagined a way I could be on the show as some boy genius who was in suspended animation. Low and behold, Gary Coleman appeared on the show as a boy genius who was in suspended animation. And when I was in love with Valerie Bertinelli (still am and there's more of her to love) on One Day At A Time I thought I could be on the show as a boy genius (are we sensing a theme) who was her tutor. Lo and behold she gets boy genius as a tutor. So it's not totally impossible for this to happen.
And then there's that Highlander thing that he's ignoring himself, but I'm sure someone like Pete Hamill never watched anything as dumb as a Highlander movie.
Wasn't that actor in Wimbeldon?
JonBidinger
Oct 16, 2007 @ 8:29 pm
Fox Stops New Amsterdam ProductionNot good news, sources say that this series will be pretty good but it looks like Fox is hobbling it from the start.
Satanic Counsel
Oct 19, 2007 @ 4:26 pm
Not good news, sources say that this series will be pretty good but it looks like Fox is hobbling it from the start.
It's not just them. Other mid-season replacements have been cut to 7. It's probably because of fears of the writer's strike.
Teen Titan
Dec 2, 2007 @ 7:57 pm
The pilot has been leaked on the internet.
I don't quite understand how the writer's strike is motivating them to cut the show order? If the scripts are already written, wouldn't the network benefit from them filming those episodes? So they have more scripted content to show?
JonBidinger
Dec 3, 2007 @ 5:35 pm
So I have seen it, and it wasnt bad, definitely has potential. I liked the little things, like at the AA meeting, or the pictures of Times Square, or the 609 previous girlfriends. I'm glad he doesnt feel the need to pretend. But the plot was to dependant on coincidences, it just so happened that he knew that specific paint, then the mural, the speakeasy, the hidden passageway, etc...
Bottom Line, I will be tuning in when it actually arrives, but I do expect it to improve.
solvej
Dec 4, 2007 @ 9:17 am
I just saw it too and I liked it. It wasn't the greatest show I've ever seen, but it wasn't bad. After all the issues surrounding it (like being taken off the fall schedule, talk about Fox being unsatisfied, and then having its production halted) I was expecting to see a terrible show, but it wasn't. I agree with JonBidinger that it has potential, and hopefully the subsequent episodes will live up to or surpass the pilot.
I hope we get to see glimpses of his past life. He's lived through so much and I think it will be intersesting to see how he's changed over the years.
Also? Nikolaj Coster Waldau is a fine looking man.
There is one thing I'm unclear about. In the description on the first post of this thread it says "The girl in turn rescued Amsterdam, weaving an ancient spell that conferred immortality upon him. Amsterdam will not age, she told him, until he finds his one true love. Only then will he become whole and ready for mortality... Amsterdam suffers and then recovers from what appears to be a massive heart attack" So, are we to assume that after the "heart attack" Amsterdam is now no longer an immortal? Or will that only happen when he and the doctor actually meet and/or begin a relationship?
Suburban Knight
Dec 4, 2007 @ 7:00 pm
I don't quite understand how the writer's strike is motivating them to cut the show order? If the scripts are already written, wouldn't the network benefit from them filming those episodes? So they have more scripted content to show?
I heard it's not the strike, but the new big gun at FOX doesn't like New Amsterdam and he had it booted off the fall schedule and trimmed the episode order.
sheal
Dec 19, 2007 @ 5:58 am
I saw the pilot... and LOVED it. I hope it doesn't suffer the same fate as my beloved Journeyman, but I feel that FOX is sending this to the slaughter in a timeslot opposite Moonlight.
LolaRuns
Dec 19, 2007 @ 1:25 pm
I saw the pilot and the origin story confused the heck out of me. Okay, so some Native American woman gives him the gift of eternal life. Errr, if the Native Americans had the power to be immortal shouldn't they have, you know, used it on themselves rather than gifting it to some random white dude? Somehow that irked me a lot; I mean I'm sure that once the show starts they might go deeper into the mythology there might be an explanation, but that just felt really odd to me.
mondlerlove
Dec 19, 2007 @ 1:55 pm
I saw the pilot... and LOVED it. I hope it doesn't suffer the same fate as my beloved Journeyman, but I feel that FOX is sending this to the slaughter in a timeslot opposite Moonlight.
ITA, I love Journeyman and am still praying that NBC will spare it. And this was the only other new show this season that at all interests me, I will be so upset if I don't even get to see the pilot.
PreviouslyOnTV
Jan 4, 2008 @ 3:46 am
Great pilot but I couldn't get over how much the lead actor (Nikolaj Coster Waldau) looks like Ewan McGregor. It's uncanny. Even crazier when you see they worked together on Black Hawk Down.
My Immortal
Jan 4, 2008 @ 5:33 am
I saw the pilot... and LOVED it. I hope it doesn't suffer the same fate as my beloved Journeyman, but I feel that FOX is sending this to the slaughter in a timeslot opposite Moonlight.
Fox has moved New Amsterdam to
Mondays at 9 PM after American Idol. So it has a huge lead-in. (But then Journeyman had Heroes as a lead-in and that didn't help it.)
sheal
Jan 5, 2008 @ 9:45 pm
Taking the discussion over from the Journeyman thread...
I sincerely hope that Fox doesn't repeat NBC's asinine behavior and underpromote the show or cancel it when it doesn't get the numbers they were hoping it'd get from being AI's lead-in. Viewing the track record and seeing that they postponed this from being aired a gazillion times, it's not looking so good...
BrainyBlonde
Jan 6, 2008 @ 9:58 am
I was looking forward to this show, too, but I'd say that it's pretty much screwed since it will be airing opposite the Dancing With the Stars juggernaut on Monday nights.
silentwilight
Jan 7, 2008 @ 12:51 pm
I haven't watched the pilot yet or anything, but does anyone know if for sure the doctor is his soulmate? B/c from promos and stuff I find her really stiff and boring and would much prefer it to be his partner (Zuleikha Robinson).
mondlerlove
Jan 8, 2008 @ 9:44 pm
Oh so does that mean it's airing opposite Heroes? Yay if so cause I hate Heroes.
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