I saw that different threads have started speculating, so maybe it would be better all corraled into one place?

These would be my personal picks for an All-Stars 2, if they insist on doing it again.

Vanuatu: Chris, Ami, Julie

Palau: Ian, Coby, Tom

Guatemala: Cindy, Rafe, Hogeboom, Danni

Exile Island: Terry, Cirie, Shane

Cook Islands: Ozzy, Candace, Jonathan

Fiji: Michelle, Yau Man

I tried to pick mostly people who attempted strategy, even if it was lame or stupid. Also, I tried to include some crazies, some alleged eye candy, and some beloved Survivors of days of yore. It's kind of a gender-lopsided list, I realize.

I can see why it's gender-lopsided though, there haven't been a lot of stand-out women the past few seasons. Whether that was due to casting or simply editing, I don't know. There was Steph from Palau of course but she's already been in two seasons.

I think you made good choices. I would put Eliza in instead of Julie for Vanuatu. Julie was kind of a non-entity. I know she's Probst's girlfriend now, but she wasn't interesting.

I wouldn't be too upset if anybody pre-Vanuatu got on board. There's still a lot of interesting people that could've been picked the first time. In fact, I understand Ken (Thailand) and/or Sandra (Pearl Islands) turned down invites. What would Sandra have to lose this time? Maybe she could win the whole thing again, and actually get her face front-and-center on the DVD cover.

As I think up who's worthy of a potential all-star edition (Yul and Tom are mortal locks, IMHO), I did come up with a twist: previous winners get one "Get Out Of Tribal Council" pass. If their tribe loses, the winners can stay at camp if they'd like, or go to the council and get immunity. Either way, they would be safe for that council only. Not like anybody mourned Tina's ouster three years ago, but I wouldn't want prior winners to get dogpiled on early. As for tribe selection? I'm going with lady luck to start: pick a buff, go to the appropiate mat. Have the winners get a seperate drawing so there's an even spread to prevent a situation like Chapera, where there were no previous winners, and poor Cesternino got tossed. Stupid people...they took out the wrong evil genius.

One more thing...I know that anybody who got two chances doesn't deserve a third. But couldn't a case be made for Bobby Jon? For one thing, he didn't go out in the conventional way in either of his tours of duty (lost the firemaking tiebreaker to Steph, Gary whipped out the hidden idol to lower the Hogeboom on him). For another, Bobby Jon brings the crazy, but it's a fun kind of crazy. Remember him and Jamie jawing during a challenge? Tell me you weren't laughing your butt off watching that.

I'd replace Cand(a/i)ce with Parvati. All Cand(a/i)ce did during Cook Islands was grizzle on Exile Island and bitch about Jonathan. Parvati was, in my opinion, a far more interesting character. Better-looking, too.

I've been thinking about this too and I pretty much agree on your entire list. Although, instead of Julie & Chris from Vanuatu I'd pick Twila & Sarge (she totally got screwed the last time plus their stupid confrontation.) And instead of Cindy of Guatamala I'd pick Amy--she kicked so much ass but was in the minority alliance. Cindy was pretty good but she was such a head case I don't want to see her get any more depressed.

I really would rather they not cast any of the previous winners as they really have no chance to win unless, like Tom, they carry their team the entire time.

This isn't so much 'Speculation' as 'What I really really want'.

1) Jonathan Penner (Cook Islands)
2) Brian Corridan (Guatemala) [If Jonathan and Brian aren't on Survivor All Stars there is just no point in watching it. So make it happen, producers.]
3) Kenward "Boo" Bernis (Fiji)
4) James "Chad" Crittenden (Vanuatu)
5) Ian Rosenberger (Palau)
6) Bobby "BobDawg" Mason (Panama)
7) Terry Deitz (Panama)
8) Oscar "Ozzy" Lusth (Cook Islands)
9) Earl Cole (Fiji)
10) Rafe Judkins (Guatemala)

Women:

1) Michelle Yi (Fiji)
2) Candice Woodcock (Cook Islands)
3) Misty Giles (Panama) [She totally deserved to go farther than third]
4) Amy O'Hara (Guatemala)
5) Jolanda "Jo" Jones (Palau)
6) Ami Cusack (Vanuatu)
7) LeAnn Slaby (Vanuatu)
8) Sally Schumann (Panama)
9) Sundra Oakley (Cook Islands)
10) Lydia Morales (Guatemala)

why not make categories (villain/ness, comedian/enne, crazy, challenge monster, strategizer etc.) and then narrow down who who best play each "role"

The winners will always be the easy targets. Better to have a winner VS losers.

I love this idea, Lantern7. Although it isn't out of the realm of possibility for a previous winner on a show like this to do well... I mean, Evil Dr. Will came in fourth on BBAS... but at least it would give them more of a chance.

My list would go as such:

Vanuatu: Twila, Chad, Brady
Palau: Tom, Ian, Angie
Guatemala: Danni, Hogeboom, Amy
Exile Island: Sally, Cirie, BobDawg
Cook Islands: Yul (or Ozzy), Jonathan, Sundra
Fiji: Earl, Yau Man, Michelle

I also suggested an All Star Crazies edition in another thread, featuring:

Eliza, Janu, Bobby Jon, James, Judd, Jamie, Courtney, Shane, Cao Boi, JessiFlicka, Adumb, Lisi, and Rocky. You could also add Nate, Scout, and possibly Dreamz without stretching the definition of "crazy" too much.

I have just two votes for All Stars 2 (and they're both from the first 7 seasons): Michael from Australia (since he was so strong and getting injured early sort of meant he didn't really get to play his full game) and Jonny Fair Play, who claims to have turned down All Stars, but I think he really didn't, but he'd be so perfect for All Stars.

I'm waivering between whether I think that'd be an awesome show or would just feel like version of The Real World: Survivor. Then again, I haven't kicked TRW in all its fallen glory, so I'd watch that version of Survivor, anyway!

Similar to the "all star crazies edition" theory (which I could see them actually doing), an idea that occurred to me a while ago would be a "second chance" edition, where the cast is made up entirely of people who were the first person booted from their tribe (or alternately, the first two people voted off, period). I think there's a strong argument to be made that some of the most intriguing people leave the show in the first few episodes, often because their personality is so strong, they don't fit with the particular tribe they're in. In a different mix, some of our favorite characters could have gone first (Rupert, Yao Man, Boston Rob, Jonny Fair Play and Richard Hatch come to mind). Some of the same characteristics that allow someone to go a long way with one group of people can mark them for early eviction in other combinations.

Yes, some people who go home early go home for a reason, but often it's just because they're perceived as a threat, too strong, etc. I think that if you compiled a season from early evictees, you'd get some very interesting people from a wide spectrum of personality types. We tend to think of early evictees as being "weak", but actually many seasons saw "physically strong" people voted out early because they were seen as threats. Of course, some of the older people may now be just too old to go, but with 13 eligible seasons, there's plenty of people to draw on. Obviously there are some people who might NOT want to see come back, but this is a wide enough pool that even with them weeded out, you'd have a good mix. Of course, it would be fun to see some of the more "charismatic" people brought back just to see how the strange mix of personalities would work out.

Just to refresh your memory, here are the early evictees (first of each tribe) for each season !

Season 1 (Borneo): Sonja, B.B.
http://www.tv.com/sonja-christopher/person...60/summary.html
http://www.tv.com/b.b.-andersen/person/164229/summary.html

Season 2 (Australia): Debb, Kel, Michael
http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor2/survivors/debb_b.html
http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor2/survivors/kel_b.html
http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor2/sur.../michael_b.html (included because he is the only person to leave from an accident, not illness)

Season 3 (Africa): Diane, Carl
http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor3/sur...ios/diane.shtml
http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor3/sur...bios/carl.shtml

Season 4 (Marquesas): Peter, Gabriel
http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor4/sur...ios/peter.shtml
http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor4/sur...s/gabriel.shtml

Season 5 (Thailand): John, Jed
http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor5/sur...bios/john.shtml
http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor5/sur.../bios/jed.shtml

Season 6 (Amazon): Ryan, Janet
http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor6/sur...prof/ryan.shtml
http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor6/sur...rof/janet.shtml

Season 7 (Pearl Islands): Nicole, Burton (this year is a little tricky since some "losers" did get to come back)
http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor7/sur...io/nicole.shtml
http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor7/sur...io/burton.shtml

Season 8 (All Stars): doesn't count !

Season 9 (Vanuatu): Brook, Dolly
http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor9/sur...ios/brook.shtml
http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor9/sur...ios/dolly.shtml

Season 10 (Palau): Wanda, Jonathan
http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor10/su...bio/wanda.shtml
http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor10/su.../jonathan.shtml

Season 11 (Guatemala): Jim, Morgan
http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor11/su...s/bio_jim.shtml
http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor11/su...io_morgan.shtml

Season 12 (Panama): Tina, Misty
http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor12/su.../bio_tina.shtml
http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor12/su...bio_misty.shtml

Season 13 (Cook Islands): Sekou, Billy
http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor13/su...bio_sekou.shtml
http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor13/su...bio_billy.shtml

Season 14 (Fiji): Jessica, Lilliana
http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor14/su...s/jessica.shtml
http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor14/su...s/liliana.shtml

It could be really cool to see some of these people we didn't really get to know, get their chance to shine ! In a way, I think the audience would root more for people who didn't necessarily get a fair shake the first time (yay for second chances) more than "all stars", some of whom already won their million dollars !

Heh. And I still think that if Jeff doesn't want to do that, they should have Jonathan host that season. I would love watching him laugh, snark, and call out those crazy morons, whenever they do something stupid.

As for, another ASS, I agree that the majority should be from Vanuatu-present season, with only three exceptions:

Australia:
Michael
Rodger (Rudy's was my favorite cranky old guy on Survivor, and Rodger was my favorite loveable old guy on Survivor)
Amazon:
Matthew (Because he was awesomely crazy, and I would love watching him freak out a whole new group of people.)

But if they do just a Vanuatu-present group, my ASS 2 dream list would be this:

Vanuatu
Twila
Chad
Ami (she was an interesting villian, and it would interesting to see how she would fair, now that people know how she works)

Palau
Tom
Ian
Jenn (eye-candy reasons yes, but she also just finished cancer treatment, and I think it would be an interesting storyline)

Guatemala
Danni
Brian (I actually think he could pull a Rob M. Underestimated because of his early oust, only to be sitting in the F2, this time)
Cindy
Gary

Exile Island
Terry (to see him try to hold his own, against Tom)
Cirie

Cook Islands
Yul
Jonathan
Ozzy

Fiji
Yau-Man
Earl
Michelle

Rather than add a list, I thought to add an idea.

On the first ASS, the winners were easy pickings because they were spread out. In ASS2, they could still do the three tribe concept, just put all the winners on one tribe. That way they're not the easy boot until much later in the game.

I just want to put out a STRONG no vote against winners coming back for All Stars 2. In all the All Stars shows I've seen (Survivor, Big Brother, Amazing Race), the inclusion of winners always seems dumb. These people already won, how can you root for them ?

For example, your idea of a tribe of Survivor winners... well, Tina, Ethan, Jenna Morasca and Richard Hatch were already on the first run. So, your candidates for the "winner tribe" would be (in order): Vecepia, Porn Star Brian, Sandra, Chris from Vanuatu, Fireman Tom, Danni, Aras, Yul and this year's winner. Although I guess I could agree a strong tribe would be made from that batch, I just imagine that most of their conversations would be about how they use "Benjamins" for toilet paper and they're sending their kids to Harvard. Yuck.

I think this is an interesting idea, especially because we didn't get sick of these people the first time around. However, it's not like I watched Palau really wishing that Wanda had stayed around. No Wanda. And no B.B., Brook, and especially no Dolly. The rest of the people, such as Jessica, made very little impression on me, but I'm sure in time I would learn to love/hate them.

capilano cat, I think that in SAS they did that, so they might continue it as well. In each tribe there was:
1. strong tribal leader or challenge beast (rupert, richard, tom)
2. young strong guy or hot guy (ethan, colby, boston rob)
3. physically weaker strategist (rob c, lex, rudy?)
4. older strategic female who got far (sue, kathy, tina)
5. young bitchy female (alicia, jerri, shii ann)
6. "evil cute girl" (amber, jenna L, jenna m).

And I think proof that archetypes were cast in each tribe was that after elisabeth and colleen and other young females kept dropping out, they somehow ended up with amber or jenna lewis whichever one was the last one cast instead of trying to get someone different.

While the categories don't always fit perfectly there's a good balance between survivalist/physical players vs. strategists.

Now if they go with similar categories again, then I'd think they go with these types of people:
1. Tom (Palau), Terry (Exile Island), Jonathan (Cook Islands), Earl (Fiji) or someone from Vanuatu like Chad or Chris if they're deemed popular enough.
2. Bobby Jon (if eligible), Aras (Exile Island), Ozzy (Cook Islands), Yul (although I doubt he'd go again), Alex (Fiji). I'd argue for Boo, but he doesn't look popular enough or Rocky, but he's too annoying to include. And Bobby from Exile Island earned his spot through survivors strike back, but he rarely did enough on his show.
3. Brian or Rafe (Guatemala), Shane (Exile Island), Yau-Man (Fiji)
4. Scout or Twila (Vanuatu), Lydia (Guatemala), Cirie (Exile Island). This category lacks, I'd argue for letting Sandra come back if she wants.
5. Ami or Eliza (Vanuatu), Katie or Angie (Palau), Amy (Guatemala), Courtney (Exile Island).
6. Jenn (Palau), Danni (Guatemala), Candice or Parvati (Cook Islands), Michelle (Fiji).

I really don't like this list actually because I felt like some categories were forced and I felt like I'd rather not see half of the people I listed. I think a big problem is well is that Vanuatu is so female-dominated and so forgotten and I couldn't find too many people from Palau that I could bother to see again, especially on the female side.

I also hope that if SAS2 happens that they somehow manage to minimize the effect of pre-game alliances that ruled SAS1. The inherent problem is that the most popular people are the ones that do the motivational speaking circuit and show up at shows, events and the like and they get to know each other. So seeing someone like Ryan O, Boo, Sandra or Sundra would be good because they're less likely to have emotional ties to other players in the game and would play anew and have to create the relationships on the island instead of relying on pre-game ties.

Bookhouse Boy, I agree that winners really should be left out, I was just throwing out a scenario to make it more fair if they are (inevitably) brought back. And they could be brought back as just the majority of a tribe, instead of the whole tribe, if there aren't enough winners. But if they did the 4 tribes of 5 concept that'd make it easier to fill up a "winner's tribe." Heck, at that point you could split people up by relative previous position in the game. A tribe of winners, a tribe of F4, a tribe that didn't make the merge, etc.

This would be "my cast" on ASS2:

Girls:
Ami (Vanuatu)
Eliza (Vanuatu)
Steph (Palau & Guatemala)
Danni (Guatemala)
Angie (Palau)
Lydia (Guatemala)
Cirie (Panama)
Becky (Cook Island)
Candace (Cook Island)
Michelle (Fiji)

Guys:
Chris (Vanuatu)
Tom (Palau)
Ian (Palau)
Judd (Guatemala)
Terry (Panama)
Yul (Cook Islands)
Jonathon (Cook Islands)
Ozzy (Cook Islands)
Earl (Fiji)
Yau Man (Fiji)

Yeah, I suppose that could be one way to do it... perhaps something like:

#1 Tribe of Previous Winners
#2 Tribe of Car Winners (since the car curse prevents them from winning their season)
#3 Tribe of First Voted Out
#4 Tribe of Immunity Streakers (people who famously won a lot of individual immunities) (or some other distinction)

Admittedly, the All Stars concept does seem to try to cover a lot of different "types" of people... if the entire cast was of "first people voted out" like I suggested, it would be lacking some of the All Star people we want to see come back. So, maybe just one "tribe" of some of those people, matched up against other types of groups. Besides, it's possible that not enough of those early losers would have the physical fortitude to come back a second time anyway (age being a huge issue).

I love the idea of a tribe of Car Cursed survivors!

Lydia from Guatemala would be funny to bring back just because Probst would spend every episode belittling her again. Okay, I'd feel for her in those regards, but I'd laugh at how much of an ass it'd make Probst look.

And I agree, a "Cursed Car" team would be interesting.

I only want Terry back on my screen if he's voted off first. That would make me feel as good or better than how the Romber haters felt this season with TAR: AS

I would hate, hate, HATE for it to be only people from those seasons since All-Stars. However, I agree that most (at least three-quarters) should be. What about having one tribe for eight winners (all since the last AS, plus enough to fill it out (in order of preference: Brian, Sandra, Vecepia), and one for eight of the most entertaining losers?

Or, if they INSIST on having four tribes like the past few seasons, four winners/runners-up, four made-the-jury players, four made-the-merge-but-not-the-jury players (in particular Gretchen), and four of the first-outs? That way, only winners could vote off winners, and the losers would have to work hard to get them to TC. And we would avoid having winners being the first vote-offs unless they deserved it. And for this, NO switches. Of any kind.

Whatever happens, please limit it to only 16 people. 18-20 is several too many.

If they do ASS 2, they DEFINITELY need to include people from seasons 1-7. I felt like certain players were bumped because someone too "similar" was already included on the cast (Rudy/Rodger, Shii Ann/Kelly G, Kathy/Helen, Tina/Teresa, etc), while others were either unable at the time or had just gotten back from Pearl Islands (Vecepia, Sandra, Neleh, Fairplay).

The biggest reason I think they should include oldschool players is because IMO the newer players don't seem as "epic" to me. That may be a strange term to use, but I definitely feel like the pool from the past 7 seasons has been far weaker and less inspiring than the original people and didn't make for as good television.

Anyway, my dream cast for ASS 2 would be:

-Sandra (I understand why she declined the first time, but she was a great character and played a good game)
-Kelly G. (Because, if rumors are true, it crushes me that Shii Ann took her spot in the original ASS, and I want her back on my screen!)
-Danni (definitely, IMO, one of the best players from the past 7 seasons, and she'd fulfill an "eyecandy" spot, too!)
-Ami (she was a great villain, and IMO the past 7 seasons have lacked strong females... whether that be editing or otherwise)
-Michelle (even though she wasn't really a boatload of strategy, she had a great personality and IMO is an "unconventional sweetheart" type, which is awesome to see. I also think she deserves another chance after getting shafted)
-Cirie (how could we not include one of the best players and most endearing/popular characters in the whole run of Survivor?)
-Candice (as much as it pains me, and as much as I loathe her, Cook Islands would have SUCKED without her. Her mutiny, stupid as it was, set the gears in motion for a great end-season. She was physically strong, decent looking, and entertaining, and I'd love to see her not under the influence of Adumb)
-Twila (Again, I detested her, but she was good for drama and actually played a half-decent game)

I wouldn't mind seeing Steph's triumphant third return, but enough is enough. If Sandra and Kelly were barred, I'd probably substitute Becky (who IMO got the shaft on editing) and Eliza in their places. Or Amy... I loved her. The women in the past few seasons have definitely been lacking, but I could stomach the returns of Cassandra, Sundra, Jenn, Katie, Cindy, and Parvati.

For the men, I'd pick:

-Yau Man (definitely one of the most unique characters on the show, and he isn't just a gimmick... he's actually having success!)
-Aras (he's one of the few who fulfills each of the eyecandy, strategist and physical player roles)
-Tom (I hate having TOO many winners, but he definitely deserves a slot... i wasn't a huge fan, but he rocked at the social, physical and survival aspects of the game)
-Ozzy (how could he not be?)
-Brian C. (he didn't really get far enough to be considered, but I loved him and would love to see him make an appearance!)
-Jonathan (he brought the goods for making enjoyable television... he was the villain, the fan favorite, and the strategist all rolled into one!)
-Fairplay (he bugged the hell out of me, but was a great villain and should have been in the first one IMO)
-Yul (I resisted, because I don't think he'd want to do it again, and I also didn't want to have the Ozzy-Jon-Yul trifecta, but I couldn't stop myself... I love him too much and he deserves a spot! He was interesting, smart, enjoyable, nice, and a good player...)

I'd love to see Brian H. come back, but I listed too many winners, and while I do think some older players should be considered, I think the concentration should be in later seasons. Rafe, Ian, Coby and Earl are other strong considerations IMO. Sadly, Terry will be given a spot by the producers, even though he makes my blood boil and my stomach turn... but that doesn't mean I have to list him! He was a villain that I hated to hate. Bobby Jon rocks but, like Steph, he already got his second shot.

I don't agree that they should include anybody from before Vanuatu because, in my opinion, most of the most interesting and/or high-ranking players have already been chosen for the first All-Star season, and things would look lopsided and funny without them. For example, after watching Borneo, the Survivors I would have chosen to see again would have probably been some combination of Hatch/Rudy/Sue/Colleen. However, Hatch/Rudy/Sue were all already in All-Stars. I suppose you could make an argument for asking Colleen or Greg or Gervase for an ASS2, but I think it would look weird to include those people from the first season without including the big players like Hatch and Sue. Basically, it would be lame to include everybody who ended up being strategically weak and bulldozed by Tagi.

When you get closer to the actual All-Star season, this argument gets more tenuous because I think that a combination of Sandra/Rupert/Fairplay/Burton would have been defensible from the Pearl Islands season, but only one was chosen.

I would have no problem with only seasons 9 - 15 represented. I'd actually be annoyed otherwise.

My first inclusion would be Brady. There is no way that I would want to watch a second SAS without him. He got so screwed by the men/women tribal lines in Vanuata. Oddly enough, I would also include Rory from that season, because he's the batshit craziest.

The rest of the men would include Tom, Ian, Yul and Ozzy, no question. Which only leaves me four men to include from three seasons, hmm. (Four seasons if I leave a slot for the yet-to-be done 15th season, but I'm not going to).

So for Guatemala, I'll include Brian, he definitely deserves another shot. And even though he's already had two shots, I adore Bobby Jon, so I'll include him. Exile Island, I'd like to see Bobby back. And I love me some Boo, so I want him to be on.

The girls are going to be tougher. I have no desire to see anyone from Vanuatu again, but if I have to pick someone, it would be Dolly. So random, I know.

I definitely want to see Michelle again. Ohh, and Angie (from Palau) too. That would be awesome.

I would be interested to have Margaret and Amy back from Guatemala. Definitely not Cindy, like someone said, since she's so fragile.

Oh, I can't forget Cirie! Gotta have her. And yeah, Misty would be cool too. She's purrrrdy. And to round out my list, Sundra and Cecelia and Cristina from Cook Island.

So, Burnett, are you listening to us? And the regular SAS combined with Batshit Crazy SAS would be awesome.

I don't even think there ARE another 20 people for ASS2. In terms of entertainment value (and popularity), there's really only Cirie, Lydia, Yul, and Ozzy who are both memorable and long-lasting in the game.

(Unless there's the extra 16 people from Fiji, which Channel Nine down here hasn't bothered to start with yet.)



Yeah, but you could get Kelly Wiglesworth (I love that surname) from Borneo.

From the first seven seasons (assuming that, like last time, everybody had to have made the F10, and weren't picked for ASS1), I'd only even THINK about taking Kelly, Gretchen, Rodger, Paschal, Jan, Helen, Matthew, Butch, and Sandra.

I'd love to see another All-Star season. With the exception of Pearl Islands, the only people I'd pick from pre-Vanuatu seasons would be the winners who weren't included in the original AS. Also, no matter how much people like players like Brian from Guatemala, i don't think anyone who went out that early should be invited back. They had to at least get to the merge or very close. I'm not a big Stephenie fan (at least from Guatemala), but she's too strong to leave out.

Here are my thoughts:

Men:
Brian H. (as the previous winner)
Tom Westman
Ian
Chris D
Terry
Aras
Yul
Ozzy
Jonathan
Yau Man (or Earl)

Women:
Vecepia (didn't like her or that season, but she won)
Sandra
Stephenie
Eliza
Julie
Twila
Danni
Cirie
Becky
Candice

This isn't a perfect list, and does have 20 people. I'd prefer 16, but since the producers seem to want large casts, this will have to do. It would be a fun season.

I'm not sure if I even want to see another All-Stars edition. The first one degenerated into such bitter and personal nastiness (Hatch grinding against Sue and her subsequent quitting the game, Rob using his friendship with Lex to turn the game) that it made the whole viewing experience less than entertaining. Since the last ASS, however, it seems to be that the producers have gone out of their way to generally pick people who seem less famewhorish, or at least as much as you can for people who want to be on a reality show.

On the other hand...Burnett is smart enough to know what was wrong in the last All-Stars and fix it. Plus, I'd love to see how older players react to things like hidden immunity idols, Exile Island, etc.

There have been enough winners that you could do a tribe of winners against a tribe of second-chancers. Vecepia, Brian, Sandra, Chris, Tom, Danni, Aras, Yul, S14 winner versus Paschal (who was 'purple rocked' out of the game), Helen Glover, Johnny Fairplay, Ami Cusack, Ian, Rafe, Cirie, Ozzy or Jonathan, someone from S14 (I'd pick Michelle, another screwjob elimination). The only problem here is that it wouldn't be an even gender split, so it's probably not an option.

Here's the most likely candidates from each season. I'm supposing here and everyone would want to do it, which likely wouldn't be the case, but hey, I'm spitballin' here. I'm separating it between 'all-stars' and 'early knockouts who get a second chance,' since I really like that idea.

S14: Yau Man and Earl would be total locks. Michelle and Dreamz are good possbilities. Among the earlier knockouts, Rocky (shudder) might stand a chance, and maybe Gary due to his health-related exit.

S13: Yul, Ozzy and Jonathan are for-sures. Candice is another good option. Of the early knockouts, maybe Cao Boi? Actually, aside from him, the early eliminations in this group were a pretty generally sorry lot, so never mind.

S12: Boy, you can't go wrong with a lot of people from this season. Aras, Cirie, Shane, Courtney and Bruce are all very good options. Of the early knockouts, bring back Bob Dawg!

S11: For a season that is generally not ranked very highly, it was actually very well cast. Danni, Rafe, Cindy, Gary, Judd and Jamie could all make an All-Stars cast. Brian and Amy are probably the two best reasons to have an 'early eliminatees' Survivor edition.

S10: Tom and Ian are the only totally solid two choices. It's funny, I remember liking this season a lot, but there weren't really a lot of strong personalities, and Steph/Bobby Jon both got a second chance already. After Ulong was wiped out, it was a lot of comparative non-entities like Katie, Gregg, Invisible Jenn, etc. I guess maybe Coby, or if you went pre-merge, James the redneck and Goth Angie might be options.

S9: Chris and Ami would definitely get in. Eliza and Twila are strong options. I don't think they'd let Julie back simply because it would be too much of an obvious conflict of interest for Probst. For early knockouts, there's always Rory, Bubba and Dolly the sheep farmer.

From the earlier seasons, I dunno. It seems so long ago, really. You could just limit it to the winners who didn't play last time: Vecepia, Brian, Sandra and maybe Jenna, since she had to leave the last ASS early due to her mom's illness. Maybe Kelly Wiglesworth, or Michael (Australia) or Paschal (S4), neither of whom were actually voted out.

No way they should give Morasca a third opportunity to quit. She tried to quit her first season, she did quit the second season, she'd quit the third season.

Yeah, her mom was sick. Her mom was sick the first time, too. Her mom was actually in hospice, which means she was very sick, so going on ASS was the wrong thing to do, and doing it cost her tribe and affected the game.

Hearing her talk smack about "quitters" on Survivor Live is infuriating, given her track record.

Sorry, that's a button I should get fixed. :-D

All-Star Crazies, I would definitely embrace.

Or maybe two teams comprised of the contestants who bragged repeatedly that their master strategy was to fly under the radar, but who were actually just knuckleheads.

Since they seem to LOVE making the cast bigger, I propose this idea:

Three tribes of seven. Two tribes have one person from each season since All-Stars1, the other has one from each season before All-Stars1.

Assuming that people must have made the merge (same as last time, with the exception of ShiiAss), and have only played ONCE (so no Steph/BJ/Outcasts/last All-Stars), here's what I envision the cast to be:

TRIBE 1
Gretchen, Borneo (since everyone else interesting was taken the first time, plus I have no interest in seeing Wiglesworth again)
Nick, Outback (cause Elisabeth and Rodger wouldn't do it again, would they?)
Brandon, Africa (best of a bad bunch)
Tammy, Marquesas (most tolerable semi-challenge-monster)
Helen, Thailand (to see if she'd play differently without Brian - you know, try to WIN)
Matthew, Amazon (cause I needed some man meat)
Sandra, Pearl Islands (cause we need a winner)

TRIBE 2
Julie, Vanuatu (because you know they would)
Coby, Palau (cause we need someone as annoying as Jerri)
Gary, Guatemala (one of only four people I remember from that season - and two of THEM can't be picked under my rules)
Cirie, Exile Island (how could they not? She's like the popular version of Rupert.)
Parvati, Cook Islands (I have no interest in seeing Yul again, plus we need a non-entity)
Yau-Man, Fiji (Haven't seen this season (damn Nine), so I'm going on what's been said.)
Someone from China

TRIBE 3
Twila, Vanuatu (to even up the genders as much as possible)
Ian, Palau (cause of the way he left the game)
Lydia, Guatemala (hey, she WAS memorable, and if ShiiAss and Lambuh can get cast...)
Shane, Exile Island (cause I liked him more than most, apparently)
Jonathan, Cook Islands (not a great season in terms of entertaining players)
Michelle, Fiji (same reasoning as with Yau-Man)
Someone else from China

Fairly good cast, IMO. Plus, the genders are fairly even.

After watching the horror that was The Amazing Race finale, it might be best if Mark Burnett were to take the idea of another all-star season, bury it out back, and pour concrete over it. Last time, we had Amber winning, and that was probably the best result from any "all-star" season. At least she isn't as sleazy and scuzzy as Mike or Eric. If they do it again, we'd probably end up with Jon winning, or an increasingly tweaked-out Shane. Or Courtney.

Pleeeeeeeze no more all-star shows! TAR's ending was awful.

Survivor's wasn't much better.

I read today that the All-Star season was going to start production after China wraps up, and that there'd be no winners, and it would start from season 9 (Vanuatu) onward. Both of which I quite agree with, and I think that, unless they get too big of a cast, it will be easy enough to cast enough "deserving" All-Stars.

I read today that the All-Star season was going to start production after China wraps up, and that there'd be no winners, and it would start from season 9 (Vanuatu) onward. Both of which I quite agree with, and I think denotes improvement of thought. So here is my revised list, with no winners. This is both a likely list and a list I am fairly comfortable with.

Vanuatu: Ami, Julie, Chad (or Sarge, if the cast seems short of blowhards)

Palau: Ian, Katie, Coby

Guatemala: Rafe, Brian, Cindy

Exile Island: Terry, Cirie, Shane

Cook Islands: Ozzy, Candace, Jonathan (there are people I like better on that season--but these are the only people, especially Candace/Jonathan, who might have interesting revenge motives from their original season)

Fiji: Yau Man, Michelle (depending on eventual bootings)

I have not listed people who placed highly, but bored the living daylights out of me (Caryn, Scout, Aras) or people who don't seem to have anything to add to a new season (Becky, Sundra). I have especially added those who attempted wacky strategery, even if it was lame (Alex, Candace).

I agree with your list if we can delete Rafe (whiny) and Cindy (unless her moustache-less twin agrees to be cast) from Guatemala, and add Lydia, just for Probst.

Yul should be added to the list from Cook Islands.

Stacy would be an excellent addition to the Fiji cast as the complex villain, and "Dreamz" is deliciously random, although I don't really like him. Both would be good additions to the Fiji list.

Ohhh, where did you read this? How reliable a source is it?

I'm a bit ambivalent on a second All-Stars. As much as I would like to see certain players again (Brian, BobDawg, Cirie, Jonathan), I'd worry that it would turn out just like every other reality TV all-star edition, with the casting-error walking away with the cash. In the grand tradition of Elisabeth's Replacement, the Guy-Whose-Friend-Was-Awesome-And-Wouldn't-Do-The-Show-Without-Him, and the FrankenTeam, I'm sure Stephenie or Janu would wind up winning. There seems to be evidence of some kind of horrifying Murphy's Law of All-Stars, so I would be very wary of another attempt.

I vote for a Maxim All-Star Season featuring the 16 hottest women from all seasons. My picks:

S1: Colleen
S2: Alicia, Amber, Elisabeth
S3: Jessie
S5: Erin
S6: Christy, Jenna, Heidi
S7: Darrah
S9: Julie
S10: Stephenie
S11: Danni
S12: Misty
S13: Parvati
S14: Michelle

Final Four: Colleen, Michelle, Stephenie, Parvati

Final Two: Colleen, Michelle

Winner: Colleen!

I read it somewhere I forget, the source said that it is confirmed:

1. ASS 2 is the next season of Survivor after China.
2. Contestants are only from seasons after ASS.
3. No winner will be included.

Edit: Well, it turn out that hegellite has posted the exact information. Apologies.

No winners? But that means no Yul or Tom, no Danni or Aras. And what if Earl and Yau Man win tomorrow night? I'd like to see them go around another time. Six winners, two per tribe, immunity from the first tribal council. Where can I mail my suggestion?

Michelle would be the Shii Ann of the AS2, because she went out thanks to a twist where she would've had a great chance to go further in the game than she actually did. Also, I'd like to see if her trademark pluck can withstand some of the bigger blowhards Burnett will more than likely sign up.

Oh, please God no. Aside from anything else, the last few seasons since All Stars have all been crammed so tightly together that it doesn't even feel like it's been a particularly long time since we saw them, the way it did with the people from Borneo and Australia the first time around, and the whole nostalgia factor is one of the few good points about an All-Star season.

Also, the whole season will be spoiled as soon as the cast is revealed, because, if the past examples of All-Star seasons are anything to go by, we'll be able to pick the winner just by pointing the most boring and/or horrific cast member.

Maybe Julie can just marry Probst, get her million bucks, and let us have an actually satisfying All Star winner for once.

I can see why they wouldn't want any winners on the ASS cast, but I loved watching Tom & Yul, so I'd be a sad little couch potato.

I'm admittedly a hetero woman, but I would strongly suggest these changes. Heh.

S7: Tijuana
S9: Ami
S11: Cindy
S13: Sundra!

I tried coming up with my own list but was hard-pressed to make a decent list from just the post-ASS seasons, so screw the official rules. My list goes back to season 1, as the show should be doing anyway.

I went with 18 people and balanced it male/female but in no other way. I did ignore winners, simply because I don't think the ones that would come back would have a fair chance of winning anyway. I included a number of contestants who I don't like at all but who I think would make the season more interesting, though the list probably is weighted more toward contestants I liked. I didn't include anyone just because they seem cool after-the-fact in message boards or whatever. No one included who's already been on the show more than once, STEPHANNIE. I know not all of these people would actually do it, but I do think it's a pretty good imaginary lineup.

WOMEN:
Gretchen, season 1
Kelly W., season 1
Colleen, season 1
Kelly G., season 3
Neleh, season 4
Ami, season 9
Twila, season 9
Cirie, season 12
Michelle, season 14

MEN:
Greg, season 1
Hunter, season 4
Jon, season 7
Ian, season 10
Terry, season 12
Ozzy, season 13
Jonathan, season 13
Dreamz, season 14
Yau-Man, season 14

Alternates for the men, in rough highest-to-lowest would-want-them order: Rodger from 2, Brian from 11, Jeff from 2, Paschal from 4, Gary from 11, Shane from 12, Andrew from 7.

Dreamz for All Stars 2? I don't think I could take another season of Dreamz and I don't think the producers or Probst could either... but he does seem like an obvious "interesting" pick. Definitely want to see Yau again. Michelle doesn't seem as intuitively deserving to me, but given the standards of All-Stars 1 and the fact that she did basically get screwed by random chance this season, I certainly wouldn't mind seeing her again.

In All-Stars 1, all the famously good strategists were voted out early and we ended up with Boston Rob manipulating everyone. And I love Boston Rob, but an "All-Stars" edition with Big Tom and Jenna Lewis in the top 5 is not exactly showcasing the best Survivor has to offer. I know it would never happen, but to avoid targeting the strategists early, I'd love an All Stars edition with all the best strategic minds the show has ever had. Put Hatch, Cesternino, Yul, Yau Man, Jonathan, and others up against each other and watch the fireworks (that's who I can think of from the seasons I've watched). Or maybe have one tribe of Brains and another one of Brawn with all the immunity monsters, and alternate physical and mental challenges...

Sigh. I think we can take this one as a given, as much as TPTB love to have "conflict pairs" on an "All-Stars" season. He'd probably last all of five minutes, though, as I doubt that anyone who's watched this season would be crazy enough to be in an alliance with him. Yau-Man, on the other hand, could go very far indeed. I'd love to see him in a challenge with Ozzy!

See, to me, the thing about the strategists is that so much of it is luck. I mean, Cesternino played a good game in the Amazon, but didn't move early enough in All-Stars (not a stupid mistake, necessarily, considering his reputation), and got hosed early. But it wasn't particularly interesting or fireworky to see Boston Rob squash him. Just because someone played a good first game doesn't mean they're going to do anything interesting the second time around. And I would die if I had to see Hatch or Cesternino again, so I'm glad they're only picking from Vanuatu on.

I like the idea of Brains v. Brawn, but I think it's stronger theoretically than practically. With the exception of Terry, most of the immunity monsters have had decent-to-good strategic skills (Colby, Ozzy, Boston Rob, Tom). Although Yul didn't win immunities like Ozzy did, would he really be placed in Brains, as opposed to Brawn? I mean, look at the man. Moreover, Yau Man was a beast at the immunity challenges this season, so would he be placed in Brawn?

I hope it isn't true, because ASS was kind of ass, and I could only bring myself to watch TAR-All-Stars after Romber were off. But I have a theory about why ASS and ASBB were really weird, and wonder if it still applies. People from the early seasons of those shows really formed a clique, who spent a lot of time at the same parties and same events, so they all had a lot of offscreen history that contributed to the voting patterns. Rob Mariano must have been well-liked at those events, which kind of explains why no one put up much resistance to his strategy. Likewise with the S6 and Chill Town people, who probably would have faced much more of an uprising if they weren't the Cool Kids at these parties. And it kind of explains why Rob and Amber felt so hurt by the final TC. It would be easy to shrug it off if a handful of people you met a month ago were telling you "You have no integrity," but if a friend is telling you that in front of several of your other friends... well, it makes sense, but it's someone else's clique, not one I want to see on TV so much.

So are the show alumni still like that? Do people from the recent seasons hang out? Are there more cross-season dating pairs? From the last two seasons, it seems a little less likely, just because there are fewer of the actor-waiter-model types who make reality TV their lives.

I don't agree with this. I think most people were playing to win, not let Rob do so just because he's got a nice smile and nice pecs. People like Big Tom and Lex and Kathy just thought they could use Rob and his strategy to further themselves in the game, which didn't work, not because they had some soft spot for Rob, but because Rob was just that much quicker than they were.