Jacob
Mar 18, 2007 @ 7:21 pm
It just keeps getting better! I wish people were watching this show.
And next week! NEXT WEEK! How can we save this show? We gotta brainstorm!
StickyKeys
Mar 18, 2007 @ 10:00 pm
WAIT A MINUTE! I HAVE SOMETHING INTERESTING TO TELL YOU!
Best!Epidisode!Ever!
God told me so, you heathens, you.
Of course after the ep the lead story on the news was a prayer rally to end gang violence. This recap is going to kill me. I can't wait.
JellyBellys
Mar 18, 2007 @ 10:03 pm
..........Wow. I think that was the biggest bullshit firing of this season. I really dislike Kristine now, and I don't like where that badgering of Heidi is heading. Even the executives told Trump to fire Kristine! GROSS.
What happened in the previews for next week? Every single week my local station cuts it off, it drives me insane. I saw as far as James starting to say "I'll have to send Nikki" and then it cut off.
YoureSoUrban
Mar 18, 2007 @ 10:04 pm
So glad Muna's gone. I think she really needed to tone down her holy act. I certainly believe it is possible for one to live a Christian life and work in corporate America simultaneously, but we're talking about working for Donald Trump here.
I cannot understand how Angela made the cut to be on the show. Lame and invisible. And lame.
And while I am no fan of The Arnold, I did find Tea with the Governor very charming.
meowing
Mar 18, 2007 @ 10:04 pm
GREAT EPISODE....except.....
the wrong person got fired.
Kristine should have been fired. Yes, it was hard to understand Muna. That's why as PM, Kristine should have been on the set rather than running around buying lipstick props. Too bad they couldn't bum lipstick off of someone.
Besides, why would Soft Scrub want to be associated with adultery?
Somehow, in the late innings here, this show has gotten better. I wanted to give this show up at least 3 or 4 times this season. Now I'm in it for the long haul.
Ivanka is wonderful.
Trump and NBC: Bring on Season 7!!!!! Lose the tents, though.
ToukieSmith
Mar 18, 2007 @ 10:04 pm
I like Kinetic's concept, but the execution was horrible. Kristine should have been fired. Of course, Muna decided to throw herself on the grenade. Why won't these candidates ever learn not to say anything when someone else is getting worked over by Trump.
That was a great reward for winning a task. It would have been great to hear more from the Governor about his successes.
lessa2010
Mar 18, 2007 @ 10:05 pm
So we have five white women, two white guys and an asian guy left. Guess James is going home next week.
Its going to be Angela versus Stefani in the final, well unless Stefani gets thrown under the bus by her team.
So Muna got fired when it comes down to it because she didn't want to take God's name in vain and she acted badly. I didn't realize how much acting a business wo/man needed to do, but I guess if you work for Trump its a necessity.
I really just don't see how she was difficult. Disagreed yes, but that is not the same as difficult. Ah well, just when I thought the season couldn't suck anymore.
JellyBellys
Mar 18, 2007 @ 10:06 pm
Ivanka is wonderful.
I totally agree. She seemed like she was gunning for Kristine, hard, and from James' one(!) comment, he seemed to think Kristine was to blame as well. Neither of them jumped to agree with Trump afterwards either. Ivanka was just like, uh huh.
This is completely shallow, but Kristine's cheekbones scare me. Like, intensely.
VAHokies
Mar 18, 2007 @ 10:05 pm
Who is Stefani? She defines the under-the-radar strategy.
thuganomics85
Mar 18, 2007 @ 10:09 pm
And while I am no fan of The Arnold, I did find Tea with the Governor very charming.
I actually think Arnold sounded smarter and more coherent then Trump has been lately. Hell, I thought he gave better advice then Trump's usual advice. And Arnold's advice invovled his performance in
Conan the Barbarian. That's just sad, Trump. The Terminator is outsmarting your sorry ass.
While Muna was getting on my nerves and I defintely won't miss her, the firing kind of showed that Trump really doesn't listen to the executives' advice, because they pretty much said, it would be Kristine for them. Although, I actually thought Trump would fire Heidi, for a second. Crazy boardroom.
Glad that James won as PM, but I do have to give a lot of credit to Tim/Nicole. But I'm glad that James at least put his ego aside, realised they knew more then he did, and led them do their thing. And at least he stayed around and "managed", while Kristine went off to get... lipstick?
Overall, the best episode of this season, IMO. Not a huge complement, but at least I stayed awake.
Moncheechee
Mar 18, 2007 @ 10:10 pm
Earlier this season I would have never thought Frank would still be here and Muna wouldn't. The world's gone made, I tell you.
Arkay
Mar 18, 2007 @ 10:11 pm
It was difficult to understand Muna's dialogue, because it sounded like the patois cadence kicked in, but that's why Kristine should have been fired, not Muna. Trump knew Muna had an accent when he hired her, and The Arnold made his whole speech today about how having an accent was thought to be a negative in Hollywood until he overcame that thinking, blah blah blah. But honestly Kristine as the PM either should have refused to have Muna act, or else reviewed the tape and reshot. Two people had to go out to buy lipstick? Ridiculous.
Edited to add....I realize now who Frankie Suits reminds me of...that wacko judge in the Anna Nicole case. Even though I'm a New Yorker, they both have a very particular accent..."you know how you rub sawlt into something? And then it burns mawh and mawh?"
DCRob
Mar 18, 2007 @ 10:11 pm
Damn, getting those women to answer a simple question is like pulling teeth. I would have been tempted to fire the lot of them.
The shot of the Muna reading the Bible while Kristine reads Trump's ridiculous book was great, even knowing that it was surely posed.
Trump told them when he gave them the assignment, "Somebody will be fired--like a dog." What? Are dogs fired in Trumpworld?
Kristine noted that she had yet to see God on the right hand of Trump. Glad she's got the dramatis personae in their proper order.
And Brian, general manager of the Soft Scrub division, where's your self-respect? Here you are, paying a fortune to be on the show, and you let Trump call you by your first name while you call him "Mr. Trump." Come on, man, grow a pair.
paulyb84
Mar 18, 2007 @ 10:12 pm
James was a good leader and he knew how to get the best out of his people on this task. He seemed a little unsure of himself at times, but I think he did a good job. Stefani presented well, and Tim and Nicole were great onair. On Kinetic, I thought Kristine should have been fired, but I can understand Trump wanting to fire Muna based on what happened in the boardroom, since it was unusual behavior on her part.
YoureSoUrban
Mar 18, 2007 @ 10:13 pm
I think Trump's Heidi badgering was just to throw us off. He loves her toes but wanted to let her know it's not a lock because she could fall prey to the crazy at any minute. I can't believe he'd fire her over Angela.
mumbles
Mar 18, 2007 @ 10:14 pm
I cannot understand how Angela made the cut to be on the show. Lame and invisible. And lame.
She got picked for the show from a promotion NBC did during last winter's Olympics - you could vote for an Olympian to go on the show. I for one voted for the red-headed stoner snowboarder (the "Flying Tomato").
Why is everyone on this damn show so LOUD!!!!!! Frank! Muna! James! Nicole LOVES PASSIONS and HAS SOMETHING INTERESTING TO TELL [US]!
You could see the existential crisis in Tim's eyes as Nicole went on and on about Passions.....which apparently had nothing to do with the challenge other than it being an NBC soap opera. Filmed in Hollywood.
SameStation
Mar 18, 2007 @ 10:13 pm
What, none of those women had a lipstick with them? No way I believe that. Maybe they just didn't want to ruin it by using it on the glass. I can't imagine walking around in heels and being all made up and not having a lipstick with me....
moseylou
Mar 18, 2007 @ 10:16 pm
How stunning is it that Ivanka is...actually....SMART! She really makes a big difference when she's on the show. The show has definitely improved over the season - I was ready to give up after the first couple of episodes (particularly the first one---Frank screaming! Frank screaming!--ecch!). But now I'm definitely in it to see what happens. I don't like the "PM for Life" bit, though. I want to see Angela, Stefani and Nicole step up and run a task to see what they can really do.
CheekyCricket
Mar 18, 2007 @ 10:19 pm
My favorite part of the episode: the preview for next week, when James announced that he's sending Nicole to Kinetic. Right decision, though Nicole will probably put a curse on him. Tim, on the other hand, may quietly thank the heavens and decide to name his firstborn son "James."
Next: Heidi's boardroom hemming-and-hawing when forced to choose between two of her favorites. Or maybe it was Tim's trapped look when he realized Nicole had maneuvered him into pretending to propose to her.
I was a little disappointed that Frank didn't collapse into a blubbering stammering fanboy mess when he met the Governator.
Heidi's stock has gone way, way down . . .
Moncheechee
Mar 18, 2007 @ 10:21 pm
Trump told them when he gave them the assignment, "Somebody will be fired--like a dog." What? Are dogs fired in Trumpworld?
LOL, good point. Can't you just see Trump disciplining his yellow lab? "FIDO, YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO BRING ME THE NEWSPAPER BUT INSTEAD YOU DRANK OUT OF THE TOILET. FIDO," Woof! Woof! "FIDO, DON'T INTERRUPT. FIDO, YOU'RE FIRED. GO."
paulyb84
Mar 18, 2007 @ 10:22 pm
Agreed that the Heidi-badgering was to throw us off. Trump did the same to Lee in the boardroom last year about Tarek and Charmaine, and this boardroom reminded me of that one. There were valid reasons for firing both Muna and Kristine, and right before the boardroom, I thought both might be going.
ToukieSmith
Mar 18, 2007 @ 10:25 pm
Two people had to go out to buy lipstick? Ridiculous.
Kristine should have been fired for this alone. If she was so concerned about Muna, should could have sent Muna for the lipstick.
Heidi did not fool me. She chose Kristine because she realized she needed to win more tasks before throwing Kristine under the bus. She would have thrown Kristine under the bus otherwise because she perceives Muna as someone she can beat.
Muna is smart, but I don't sense that she is good with managing/conceptualizing tasks. Plus, she doesn't know how to read a room. She really didn't suspect that her teammates would lie, cheat, and steal to get her kicked off the show? Muna, there can be only one Apprentice.
ChaiTea
Mar 18, 2007 @ 10:27 pm
I'm speechless. Worst firing decision in the history of TA.
Muna should NOT have been fired. Kristine should have been fired. The PM was totally responsible for this loss. Never before has it been more clear.
Muna's acting needed work. Not enough branding. Hard to follow. Hard to understand. The whole message wasn't clear.
Who's fault was that?????
KRISTINE!!!! Not Muna. That's why they lost. Kristine/Heidi wants us to believe they lost because Muna was annoying and had an accent??? What the hell does that have to do with branding and marketing messages?
Sorry, girls. Xenaphobia is pronounced the same way, no matter what accent you use.
I lost all respect for Kristine and Heidi. They made Roxanne and Alli look mature. All this episode needed was some of Alli's "eye rolling."
I hope they go down in flames.
umrguy42
Mar 18, 2007 @ 10:28 pm
So, what was with Nicole's *screaming* while in the shower in the morning? I mean, good God, you'd swear she never took a shower in the, I dunno, preceeding two or three weeks (real time) they'd been in the tents...
(I'd have more to say on certain things, but DCRob pretty well nailed most of my other points so far...)
Out of curiosity, where in hell did Kristine and Angela have to go to buy lipstick? I mean, I'll grant you there isn't one in this town here where I live (lying commercials!), but wasn't there like a Walgreens or something two blocks away? Sheesh!
I dunno if it was the right firing for this task or not, but I do see that Muna was being difficult in some ways... even if unintentionally. She definitely jumped in the path of the cobra here...
thuganomics85
Mar 18, 2007 @ 10:29 pm
James was a good leader and he knew how to get the best out of his people on this task. He seemed a little unsure of himself at times, but I think he did a good job.
I actually thought it was smart of James to take Arrow on that brunch. It may be a little thing, but after spending days in the tents, having a regular meal probably felt good. And while part of it might have been just to get in their favor in case they lose, I actually felt it was nice of him to do it, after the task was finished. It's something I can see a boss doing, after a team did a kick-ass job. James actually showed his team respect, which was something Surya never seemed to do.
Speaking of Arrow though, they left Tent City a mess again? Man, they are some lazy, messy people.
lovefool1978
Mar 18, 2007 @ 10:30 pm
So, what was with Nicole's *screaming* while in the shower in the morning?
But THE SHOWER CURTAIN TOUCHED HER! Oh, the humanity.
umrguy42
Mar 18, 2007 @ 10:32 pm
Speaking of Arrow though, they left Tent City a mess again? Man, they are some lazy, messy people.
Was anybody else thinking it would have been rather nastily funny for Arrow to leave bottles of the Soft Scrub stuff around for Kinetic?
Lu278
Mar 18, 2007 @ 10:36 pm
How do announcers say the best of the best are left then zoom in on the Harvard grad and Olympian, but we've hardly seen neither Tim or Angela shine this season? Are they even watching this season?
I think Kristine should have been gone. I'm thinking Kristine wanted to point fingers at Muna's inadequacies since they could easily viewed on the tape, so she neglectfully didn't review the tapes until the last minute. I smell sabotage here.
Nicole's screaming pierced my eardrums.
Ivanka did great this episode. Is she viceroying next episode?
moseylou
Mar 18, 2007 @ 10:37 pm
another thing....Trump has GOT to stop with the "angela playing the Russians" analogy. The Russians aren't a threat in women's hockey. It's the US, Canada, Sweden and Finland. It's at least the second time he has said that. He's an idiot.
Thanks, I feel better.
jparnell313
Mar 18, 2007 @ 10:39 pm
I was ROTFL when Trump was saying on the set of Passions that it was the 'top rated' soap opera. Didn't it get cancelled for being dead last for the millionth week in a row. Anyways, I thought both Kristine and Muna should've been fired. Kristine for being the absent PM and Muna for being all-around annoying.
Who is Stefani? She defines the under-the-radar strategy.
I don't think she's UTR. My guess is that she works hard at all the tasks but 99% of it gets edited out because it's not as exciting as the other subplots going on like Frankie Suits, Ticole, Michelle quiting, Surya sucking, etc.
annabelle
Mar 18, 2007 @ 10:44 pm
Why is everyone on this damn show so LOUD!!!!!!
James is the worst of all which is why I busted out laughing when he insisted the dialogue or whatever Tim was micromanaging wasn't too loud. Of course you wouldn't think so, you shouter!
Muna was bringing down the team, "disrupting the flow" as someone put it tonight. I don't think it was an unfair firing at all. /small voice
It was fun to see Heidi and Kristine's faces of doom when viewing the footage and realizing the task was lost before they even did their presentation.
Passions
was and is dead last in the ratings. Though to be fair to Trump, maybe it was "top-rated" in some obscure demographic like people between 14-18 who like mushrooms on their pizza.
quaismart
Mar 18, 2007 @ 10:48 pm
Two things, y'all: First, is there anything uglier than juxtaposing Muna reading the Bible with another contestant reading a book with TRUMP emblazoned on the dust jacket?
Second: The whole thing with Trump asking "Who would you fire?" is the biggest, bullshittiest cop-out anywhere in reality tv. I wish someone, somewhere (The Apprentice, Top Chef, etc.) would just answer "You're the boss/judge/etc. It's your job to answer that question, isn't it?"
Sorry--I'm a little issedpay. I liked Muna.
jparnell313
Mar 18, 2007 @ 10:56 pm
Second: The whole thing with Trump asking "Who would you fire?" is the biggest, bullshittiest cop-out anywhere in reality tv. I wish someone, somewhere (The Apprentice, Top Chef, etc.) would just answer "You're the boss/judge/etc. It's your job to answer that question, isn't it?"
You may be right as it being a copout. However, if this is intentional by Trump it's a ingenious way of interviewing all the losing candidates at once instead of the one that's about to be fired. Last week, Stefani took about 3 seconds to say Surya while Heidi took about 3 hours to answer and her stock fell way down because of it.
RhondaGC
Mar 18, 2007 @ 10:57 pm
Two people had to go out to buy lipstick? Ridiculous.
Yes, and it made me wonder if they still have the same rule they used to have that said people had to travel in at least groups of 2. I think it was mostly a logistical thing, since they don't have enough cameras or crew to follow each person individually, but it certainly was silly in this case. And it's not like we need shots of someone going to buy lipstick when it ends up having no bearing on the outcome whatsoever.
I thought he should have fired Heidi just for pulling that "I love them both" crap. And for a second there I thought he just might. He really hates it when people do that, and so do I. An executive in a major company like his can't be that way. They must be quick, clean, unemotional, and to the point. They should all take pointers from Ivanka. She's excellent at it. Until tonight I thought Heidi might win, but I think she blew it with that nonsense.
I have no problem with Muna saying "I can't take the Lord's name in vain." I figure it's a tenant of her religion and certainly no one would expect a devout Jew to speak his/her deity's name. I was really afraid that was going to become a point of contention, but it doesn't look like it was. I'm glad they were willing to change, and, really, replacing "Oh my God!" or "Oh my gosh (or goodness)!" really wasn't going to make a difference here one way or the other.
But I'm still reeling from Kristine thinking that putting Muna in front of the camera was a good idea. I mean, they have to subtitle her frequently on this show so the public can understand her accent. Of course, Kristine didn't know that, but still. She should have figured out that Muna might not be easy for the average American to understand. That said, Nicole's accent bugged me much more than Muna's. And the fact that she shouted all her lines. Terrible.
Honestly, this season has sort of become interesting because it's clearly just a crapshoot now for who wins the position. No one really deserves it and Trump's decisions are as random and inscrutible as always. And Arrow is becoming amusing to watch because they seem to just be kicking back and trying to enjoy the good times while they roll. It's almost like they recognize the stupidity of the show and how random the firings are, so they are just having fun for as long as it lasts not getting too stressed over things. Which is as good an attitude as any other I've seen this season, so good for them. This is why next week should be interesting. Nicole and her laid back attitude are going to clash quickly with team Taking Themselves Waaay Too Seriously.
annabelle
Mar 18, 2007 @ 11:01 pm
That said, Nicole's accent bugged me much more than Muna's.
No kidding! Painful.
Where is she from? Her pronunciation of Beah-throom was like the old SNL spoofs of the Chicago Bears fans.
thuganomics85
Mar 18, 2007 @ 11:02 pm
Yes, and it made me wonder if they still have the same rule they used to have that said people had to travel in at least groups of 2. I think it was mostly a logistical thing, since they don't have enough cameras or crew to follow each person individually, but it certainly was silly in this case.
That could be the case. Last season, when Tammy lef her notebook and had to leave the boat to get it, I think it was brought up that the reason Allie left with her, was because Tammy wasn't allowed to go by herself. So, that could explain why Kristine and Angela both had to go. But still... couldn't they have done that, when they weren't shooting the film? What the hell else were they buying? If Heidi/Muna did finish two scenes before they came back, they must have been gone for a while.
While I agree that in the end, Trump probably wasn't going to fire Heidi, I also agree that her stock has defintely dropped. He biggest strenght to me was her BR skills, and she ruined all that good work tonight. She clearly was flustered and trying to play both sides, and it annoyed both Trump and Ivanka. When will these contestants realise they just need to answer the damn questions? Heidi should thank her stars, that Trump wasn't in a crazy mood.
protanto
Mar 18, 2007 @ 11:15 pm
I was ROTFL when Trump was saying on the set of Passions that it was the 'top rated' soap opera. Didn't it get cancelled for being dead last for the millionth week in a row.
I've never heard of Passions until today.
But Nicole loves it. That is very telling... I think. Her screaming in the shower? Hideous. Honestly, I'd like her more had she simply said: "I need attention... please!"
Random thoughts:
- James did very good tonight as a PM. IMO, he is a normal guy with some good basic values.
- I'd choose Kristine over Muna to be on my team. But I'd fire Kristine tonight. She should've lead the team.
- Tim. Is he already tired of Nicole?
- Trump. Fire your barber, man. Please. Also, had the Soft Scrub VPs, Ivanka and James told him it was the blonde's fault, he would've fired Kristine. I think the names might've got mixed in his head.
- Frankie. I had a good time looking at Frankie's face while he was listening to Arnold. I betcha Frankie couldn't decide at the moment whether the Governor was speaking English or German.
- Kristine reading "Trump..." and Muna reading "Bible". Kristine criticizing Muna for that. Kristine winning. Was that all intended to be "Priceless?"
- Overall, excellent episode.
PRgal
Mar 18, 2007 @ 11:23 pm
Glad Muna's gone. Can't stand her religion thumping.
Canaduck
Mar 18, 2007 @ 11:25 pm
Answering the boardroom question was the hardest thing that Heidi ever had to do in her whole life? Ooookay. She was the only one whose acting didn't suck hard so I give her props for that.
Ultimately, Kristine was responsible for the loss but I am so glad Muna and her proselytizing are off my TV. So fucking annoying, right to the end in the cab.
It was nice to see Ivanka again. Considering that she wasn't around for the task, how did she manage to zero in so quickly on Kristine's questionable decision to cast Muna?
Donald, your decision-making might not be so hard if at least one of the people on your side of the table actually witnessed the tasks. Relying on the poor schmucks from Soft Scrub isn't quite the same. So much for the "eyes and ears".
James's stock fell with me after that bus tour task but he finally redeemed himself a little tonight. It's refreshing to see contestants who aren't ego-driven. (Also, see: Stefani.)
Lu278
Mar 18, 2007 @ 11:29 pm
I think James seems the most "normal" of the candidates in the value he holds and other things about him. I'd like to him win.
CheekyCricket
Mar 18, 2007 @ 11:32 pm
I thought that was Stefani in the shower scene?
I would have fired Kristine over Muna. Very inconsistent leadership. She pretty much handed over creative direction to Heidi and Muna, but in a spirit of abdicating her responsibilities--unlike James, who recognized that Nicole knew much more about soap opera conventions than he did, and thus made a conscious decision to take her advice. All I can figure is that Kristine was so consumed with the thought that Muna was challenging her leadership that she stopped being a leader.
Well, Muna's firing won't help Kristine much, because Kristine's not going anywhere except home (or Sequesterville), within the next few episodes.
Bobbalouie78
Mar 18, 2007 @ 11:33 pm
I only watched it once, but it seemed to me that the difficulty understanding Muna was more of a sound issue, not her actual speaking. I had a hard time understanding Heidi in those parts too. Kristen should have been fired for the lipstick thing, but I don't care either way.
WBBell
Mar 18, 2007 @ 11:53 pm
Although, I actually thought Trump would fire Heidi, for a second. Crazy boardroom.
I really thought the same thing. There near the very end, Trump started going into one of his wordplay discussions, "But First you said that you liked Muna, then you said you liked Kristine", and Ivanka was right there along with him. Then we start to think that Ivanka is going to call Heidi out for fibbing so as to get rid of the stronger player (of which Muna is clearly the stronger vs. Kristine). But then we have like this jump in the space time continuum, and that discussion evaporated (or else was cut).
Muna wouldn't have made it anyway. She's wound waaaay too tight. As Jacob said in the last recap: Unclench!
Re:
Passions ... it is due to be canceled because NBC is extending
Today to basically the whole damn morning. Too bad, because how could you not love a show with this plotline (courtesy Wikipedia):
For much of the first three to four years of the series, supernatural elements such as witches, warlocks, and closet doors leading to Hell were major plot points. One central character was Charity (Molly Stanton), a saccharine young woman who would regularly become possessed by the "forces of evil" and turn into "Evil Charity", "Zombie Charity", etc. NBC even made a deal with the owners of Bewitched to allow "Dr. Bombay" to appear in scenes with witch Tabitha Lenox (not to be confused with Bewitched's Tabitha Stevens). "Dr. Bombay" appeared on three occasions, but Bewitched nixed any future visits;
Lambchop
Mar 18, 2007 @ 11:54 pm
I thought that was Stefani in the shower scene?
No, it was none other than Nicole The Shrieker. You would have thought Norman Bates was in the shower with her. If I were Tim, I'd be afraid......very afraid.
I can't decide which is scarier, Nicole's shower screaming or Frankie's teeth.
James did a good job as PM. To be honest, I had a hard time deciding which one should be fired on Kinetic, Kristine or Muna. I think I prolly would've canned Kristine.
Jacob
Mar 19, 2007 @ 12:19 am
Passions is the only true love I have ever known in daytime. I wish that the shoot/air dates weren't so far apart, because the cross-promotion with all five of the viewers this poor old show has left could really have made a dent, I think.
Hippy Hollow
Mar 19, 2007 @ 12:58 am
Wow. That was asstastic!!!
So many things... first, I'm getting a strong vibe that the next Apprentice is going to be Stefani, with the annoying granny glasses on her nose and all. She is getting the "wise, above the fray" edit, similar to Kendra a few seasons back. But even Kendra got a little gritty. Stefani is beyond reproach, it seems.
Good riddance, Muna! I was initially very excited to see a fellow Jamaican on the show. But man, is she annoying! The passive aggressive stuff throughout the series. The way she has a comment about every single thing that her PMs do. Sometimes you gotta let stuff go, give it your best effort, and SHUT IT. And enough with the Bible-thumping.
God sure took a beating today. First, He gets dissed for never showing up to boardrooms (thanks, Kristine). Then, the person who puts all her faith in Him gets her ass steeltoed. Apparently, when the final days come, you're better off reading Trumpy's book than Revelations. Ha! (Seriously, are Burnett and Trump God-haters?)
Having said that, the firing was kind of B.S. Kristine should have had Muna running the errand, instead of taking the easy way out and letting her whine her way into an acting role. At the same time, Muna, you are acting. You have a strong accent, especially for middle American ears that have a hard time understanding anyone outside of the midwestern accent range. So you gotta slow it down and speak really clearly. Homegirl was talking a mile a minute. She absolutely had to know that it was going to be hard to understand. And Heidi could have interjected as well. As far as I'm concerned, they were all to blame for the weakness of the end product (because, amazingly, both teams had decent concepts for once).
James did a nice job of PM. Brunch was a nice touch and he established himself as the anti-Surya. However, Nicole needs to get booted off the show next. Her voice is like nails on a chalkboard. And Excited! Nicole is the worst. The more I see of her with her mouth shut, the happier I am. And Burnett, stop cramming the "romance" down our throats. Guess what? Neither Nicole nor Tim are that attractive or interesting. Nobody cares that they're hooking up. It's cheesy as hell... please!
Heidi, you're a moron. Any pixie dust you had was unceremoniously knocked off after today's boardroom. How hard is it to say, "I pick [insert least threatening member of your team]?" You were waffling like a politician and that essentially is the first shovel of dirt on your Apprentice grave. You're going down, chick!
Funny how the two "stars," the Harvard guy and the Olympian, are both embarrassing flameouts. Especially Angela. She's useless, and I actually want to like her. She isn't stupid or annoying, but she does absolutely nothing. Tim's just a goof with a bunch of bad ideas. Lucky for him Trump has a hard-on for his credentials or else he would have been booted a long time ago. Of course having Surya as a PM takes a lot of the pressure off.
Frankie... somehow survives and is mildly impressive. He's the German cockroach of Apprenti. He was way too excited about meeting the Governator. You'd think he was expecting to get felt up.
gryphon
Mar 19, 2007 @ 1:35 am
...the passive aggressive stuff throughout the series. The way she has a comment about every single thing that her PMs do. Sometimes you gotta let stuff go, give it your best effort, and SHUT IT.
This is why I did not truly like Muna. I am not totally sure she was the right fire for this episode, though. Maybe Kristine was afraid that Muna would be so upset that she wasn't in front of the camera that Muna would have totally sabotaged the skit behind the scenes?
erazor
Mar 19, 2007 @ 1:37 am
New Testament vs. Testament of Trump? Whee! Points off for obvious foreshadowing, though.
A small moment of pleasure at the top: There was a rattlesnake cymbal played over a close-up of Muna. Snake in the grass! More foreshadowing of imminent shit.
An aside: Why do corporate executives always appear so unpleasantly dour? The Softscrub woman needs to use the product on her expression. Or is there a script for these walk-on parts? Appear stern, inflexible, and above all pained and diarrhetic.
Someone upthread commented about the sleazy premise of the cheating ad, and I agree. Aside from her staccato speech, Muna also appeared as if she was angry, a level of hardcore emotion not needed in a soap commercial. The only thing good about this ad was Heidi's expression in the final shot. But if you were trying to scrub some philanderer's lipstick-scrawled message from a mirror while the wife bore down on the door, is "DAVE" the last word you'd eradicate?
What is a global question? Is this like the global questions that appear on the logic portion of the LSAT, as opposed to the local questions? Can one not just say "overall"?
Neither of these ads was any good, and for crying out loud the acting was beyond pathetic, but that big branding moment in the cabinet was very well conceived and did deserve the win. The ending wasn't strong, and actually the cheating ending was neater and more linear. Cheating/scrubbing evidence vs. scrubbing/marriage proposal/move--first and third components of the latter do not tie together in a neat little knot.
Way back when, I liked Muna. The last couple of weeks I changed my mind, but I have to say that her firing wasn't justified here. I do like Kristine, but the decision to step away from the acting role and allow Muna to proceed without direction was just plain stupid. For all her God-fearing mien, Muna's frequent interjections and second-guessing always came across as negative and unpleasant, as if she were put on this earth to out the stupid and right it. Instead, it came across as pedantic and uncooperative, nitpicky and divisive.
Suddenly, I am aggrieved by Heidi. How can it not be clear to Heidi--or to any of them, for that matter--that a short response is a requirement? Whom (always "who" on this show) would you fire? A or B? One word. If any of these would master this simple task, his or her stock would rise dramatically. Instead, this dreadful waffling that Trump will think is some feminine indecision, a sign of a lack of cojones and cut-throat attitude. She pissed me off with her qualifications, by attempting to be somehow poetic and just. She has now become an Annoying Person in the way Muna was an Annoying Person, and not the way Frank, who was an Annoying Person, has successfully turned it into mere jocularity.
nikitakitty
Mar 19, 2007 @ 1:37 am
Okay. Hard truths here.
Some people have accents and speak so quickly in them that the average native born American has great difficulty understanding what the hell they are saying. And some of those people refuse to believe that this is true. I work with people like this, from similar countries as Muna, and they always volunteer to teach inservice classes and also refuse to make any allowance for the fact that their students have no idea what they are saying. They just don't care. I asked one such teacher if he could slow down a little so we could understand him, and he simply said he speaks in seven different languages so if we can't understand him it's our problem and he had no intention of slowing down and enunciating anything. He was fine, it was our fault if we couldn't understand him. Apparently we had racist ears, or something. I don't know.
People talk to other people. One on one, to a group, on film, over airwaves. What some of those speakers think is that if the words leave their mouths it is on the listener to hear it. But it's not about the words leaving your mouth. It's about COMMUNICATING what you are saying. It isn't enough to talk, you have to be understood. And this is what Muna fails to understand, and what Kristine should have taken in hand immediately. Muna wanted to be on the screen, communicating the product message. Kristine needed to make the hard decision that Muna would not be the best person to actually communicate the product message. Regardless of whether Muna WANTED to speak, she was UNABLE to actually communicate the message.
And thus they failed. Heidi did a fantastic acting job btw. Really natural talent. And their story was more compelling over all (if the sponsor didn't care that it was about adultery, which I thought was a poor decision on Kinetic's part). But Muna can't communicate on screen and they were doomed as soon as Kristine made that decision. Kristine should have been fired for failiing to make the difficult decision that Muna was not the best communicator/actor for that commercial.
But I'm glad I don't have to see Muna anymore, because I was just sick of her anyway. But she was not the rightful firee tonight IMHO.
Trump said he'd fire someone like a dog. What the hell is his childhood trauma, that he has to talk like some B-movie villain all the time? Trump is such a joke, more than he was in the past. He's just become a caricature of himself these last few years. I can't respect him at all any more. Well, I never really did, but it's worse now.
Trump did his 'ooo lookie it's a girl fight' thing again tonight. He loves to watch women fight with each other, he practically drools over it. And his hard on for Angela knows no bounds. She is so far in the background that I can't think of anything she's really done on any task in retrospect. She's a cipher. But Trump keeps asking her her opinion on who to fire in the BR. Like she's the opinion he really trusts. She's plays hockey, she's not the second coming of Christ for crying out loud. Geez Louise.
The best part of this show is Jacob's recaps. I just read last weeks recap and I think this show broke Jacob. But I'll never be able to get the image out of him in his green pajamas, sitting on stage with the Chipmunks in summer camp ever again. Thank you for that Jacob. Comedy gold.
Moondoggie
Mar 19, 2007 @ 2:26 am
As for tonight's epi it can be said to be God's will that Muna now resides in Sequestorville. I love the visuals, the stories are entertaining and this season Ivanka is impressive but I'm getting the vibe that the show is winding down. I'll miss the show when it's gone. Here's a thought, spin off Ivanka into her own television vehicle when it's time to fold the tent, pun intended. I don't post on TWOP often (keeps me out of trouble with TPTB) and didn't have anything pressing to say...then I read this comment on the thread...
I actually think Arnold sounded smarter and more coherent then Trump has been lately.
I thank the quoted poster for the opening to quote Donald Trump from his March is 16th interview with Wolf Blitzer while remaining on the thread topic.
"Bush is the worst President of the United States"
"The war is a total disaster. It's a catastrophe, nothing less."
Those are coherent comments, IMO. Here's the transcript for expanded comments
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/070...sitroom.02.htmlhttp://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/situation.room/ Search on this page for a more of the interview on video, the transcript is not complete and Blitzer's show cut up and rearranged the sequence of the Trump interview as a teaser from the beginning to the end of the broadcast. I don't know how much longer the video version of the interview will be available, though.
Okay. Hard truths here.
"Everything in Washington has been a lie. Weapons of Mass Destruction, total lie."