Nooooooooooo, not Alfred??!!!!! Bye bye sweet Alfred. My local station has the synopse for tonight as a new episode, not a recap. Starts by saying.."With no time to grieve,Jack&Julia make a daring escape"...... <sniffs>poor Alfred.... TV Guide mag says recap so who knows. If the series is supposed to end on Tues the 6th then they would have to show a new eppi tonight..3 epis left.

i think alfred is pretty dead cuz i read the review at mynetworktv for tonight's episode..

I agree that Alfred is gone because he jumped in front of Foolia and the My network website says J & J have no time to mourn. I wonder if Christine will be the one to burn down the house since Alfred is gone and what he said to her finally registered?

Damn fine acting once again by Supercuts!!

What does everyone think will happen to Natasha?

Yeah, I was all ready to call her Julia again, and now she's back to DamnFoolia. You mean to tell me you're gonna talk shit, taunt and bait poor, conflicted Boris while he was tied up, and then punk out on him when he gets loose? Very disappointing!



I don't get why they call it a compound either. Something else that's been bugging me also is that Caroline is pretty isolated there. She's always either in her room or only comes out when necessary. Other than the horny date, I don't recall seeing any other young people at the compound for Caroline to interact with. She either has to go to their houses under heavy guard or to some prearranged outing like the movies--once again under heavy guard. What a crappy way for a kid to live! No wonder she latched on to Jack so quickly. Could you see Caroline cracking jokes or playing chess just for fun with Boris or Natasha?

I also was surprised about the lack of security at the hotel especially with all that action in the lobby.

I liked how they started off with a bit of the future dream--- somewhat surprising, but nothing that hadn't been predicted by the board. So, wonder what will happen to Dr. Baden, will she be the nanny? lol. Boris and Natasha might get blown up in the lab, I'm not sure about that one, though. They'll come up with something more creative to send them off.

Boris will renounce violence and join Ryan at whatever it is that Ryan does. Natasha will open up an S&M club and be head dominatrix, of course.

LOLs on Natasha's new career! I think she will end up in jail because she was one of the masterminds behind the evil plan of killing people.

Hopefully we will see Supercuts die a bloody death!! Can't wait for that.

I do recall a scene in the "1 week left" commercial where Michael is all blood running out his nose, eyes rolling around, I think he will die a violent death plus from the virus.

Doing some fan-girl-ish imdb-ing and just learned something:

Dear God in heaven. Todd Cahoon has an identical twin.

The boy so nice God made him twice.

For a brilliant scientist, Christine is awfully stupid. Poor Alfred showed more guts than she did.

Being infected with Medusa sure made Michael cold. Having poor Alfred cremated seconds after gunning him down? Ouch.

by any chance anybody recorded this show and wanna sale??..i miss the first month when it was air..argg...

In all honesty, while I went out of my way to drop Wicked Wicked Games to DVR (so I could later dump it to .mpg to get the good stuff), Watch Over Me just hasn't been as universally memorable. That's me, though...but not that it's been bad (or at least not in a non-awesomely bad schlock way). 65 episodes or thereabouts is a hell of a commitment on a daily basis...I could do one or the other.

Having said that: that reminds me that, once the dust settles, I'll have to 'Tube up the death of Sasha...

I didn't see the Friday epi due to basketball so what happened?? Alfred was cremated? What the heck??

Hey Sexy Adonis I had mentioned how Jack just stares and doesn't blink a lot too. No one else commented on it. So you noticed it too. I love Todd Cahoon and to find out there are two of them out there just made my day, week, month... well you get it, but he needs to learn to blink a bit. Maybe he's wearing contacts that bother him, but it bothers me sometimes in a scene like I want to say blink! But he's the lead in his show, hands down. He's done a great job and I hope he gets work soon. I heard he was up for Mr. and Mrs. Smith, but some model looking guy got it instead. That show won't last anyway. He fits a James Bond Jr perfectly to quote whoever named him that in here.

I'm so bummed they killed off Alfred. I'm in mourning. :(

Okay so was anyone else thinking that since Michael was curled up in a ball half the episode why didn't someone inject him with something to put him out so they could tie him up or if Borg could have just gone postal on him and knocked him out. To know they are about to release the chemical into the city with a man who can barely stand up didn't fly with me. Even after Alfred was shot to death, Jack is really good at getting guns out of people's hands, somehow he could have done something. I'll give Jack the credit, he had to protect Julia, but Borg, what up?

To me, any speaking up of a character being gay in the way you brought it up is like saying I have black friends. Why bring it up at all unless it's to say great job love them as a couple. I love, love Jullia's brother. Sure hope to see him around in something else. Such a sweet actor. The brother and sister moment of crying and sharing memories was beautifully acted. Bitter cold of Michael to have ashes 5 seconds after Alfred died. That's cold man.

Did I hear right? Monday is the end? I thought Tues was. Aw man hate to see it end. Hope it comes out on DVD or they repeat it so I can tape it all this time.

MWAH, Alfred's dead, in an urn, the finality of it all. I also thought Dayanara got to show her acting chops with the crying scene, though she wasn't as good in the beginning of the show. Hmm, I am gay, but I can understand how people that don't understand it or agree with it, can think, from that perspective too. People fear what they do not know. In some ways it is a big deal, but the whole Grey's Anatomy thing is kinda blown out of proportion. I just got sick of hearing it. There are tons of homophobic people in the world, that never get shit for what they say, but that doesn't make it ok. I just never could see Kramer the same way on Seinfeld after MR said that comment too. I'm black and gay, mixed race, so I could really understand each sides' point of view. All people are connected, and that will lead to a greater understanding, just awareness of who we are as a whole, beyond the barriers of religions, race, or even gender, sexual preference, etc.

As far as Supercuts, I also thought it was a big joke that Andre and Natasha would sit there and take orders from him. Even they have to have a conscience that stops at some point. Instead of being mindless drones. Maybe they don't care if they themselves get the bug too. Mindless loyalty.

I also thought WickedWickedGames was better in that the stories are juicer, more soap like than WatchOverMe, which I discovered first. Somewhat I could say it is like my preference of MelrosePlace over 90210. The former more over-the-top and fun, the latter all preachy and such. Meaning WatchOverMe more realistic in some ways, and less out of reality. Some people on the other boards say that its a rip of MissionImpossible2.

For a penultimate episode, last night didn't have me on the edge of my seat. Since Jack already has Medusa (or whatever the good one is called) in his system, wouldn't it just neutralize the effects of drinking the other one (sorry, brain fart is depriving me of my memory)?

Loved Boris's brief crisis of conscience about killing Jack and Julia. Also loved that Jack cold-cocked him. Boris really isn't all that threatening when push comes to shove.

Caroline finally remembers what happens in the crash. Zzzzz. Natasha is pretty squeamish about killing too. I guess good henchmen are hard to find. Makes Isaac's death all the more poignant, doesn't it?

Yep, it looks like Andre's growing a conscience after all. He's loyal to Michael to a fault, but I guess even his loyalty has limits. My prediction (spoilerish); Andre will kill Michael/sacrifice himself to save Ryan/the world. But I could be wrong.

I too was surprised by Andre getting a conscience. I was disappointed that while Supercuts was barely walking, Andre just didn't do him in once and for all but then we wouldn't have another night to be on the edge of our seats.

I have to wonder if Christine calls the Centers for Disease Control on Supercuts and she blows the compound up. It looks like Julia and Caroline run from the compound to safety?

What does everyone think will happen with Natasha? Even she had a conscience when Michael got her to off his wife.
I will miss my beloved Todd now and I hope they bring him back soon in another story!

It looks like Christine is going to bite the bullet tonight, too according to http://www.mynetworktv.com. That was my assumption last night too.

One thing I didn't understand is they showed a close up of a boy's face, he looks kinda like that Nicky but has a goatee I think in the close up in the commercial. Is that a scene from past episodes or does he interact/get punched in the face by Andre??? That was my assumption that it is him. That confused me a bit. They throw so many scenes past and present together in one commercial.

Yeah, someone else has to die, and it might as well be Christine, she of the uncertain courage. Can't say I'm going to shed any tears over that.

This was a randm dude who tried to carjack Andre....bad idea jeans, man. For his trouble he got a one-way ticket to Lab #2, first stop Medusaville!! This was the first time we really saw Christine in action--reacting badly to the human trials, etc. Can't remember, but this guy's demise was witnessed either by Pete or Jack.


Yeah, Prettyeyes, I had that same thought too.

What happened w/ Caitlin? I had thought last week that she'd acquiessed (sp?) and gone w/ her parents and then yesterday Jack was talking about her meeting up w/ Ryan and Melanie...and then they didn't do it!?

Maybe the whole gang will be together on the last night.

I hope its Natasha that dies not Christine. She goes and gets the lab notes it looks like at least she can create the good virus to save Jack if needed because he drank so much of Medusa.

Aw, Boobella got a final cameo.

"I'd back up if I were you." Boris still has feelings for Andre! Maybe Andre will visit him in prison.

Supercuts's death was rather anticlimactic.

Bummer, Natasha never gets to open that S&M club. But it looks like Boris found a "friend." (Isn't he the same guy from Desire? Was he gay?)

Another lame-o ending to a once-promising story.

I am scared of that bold hussy Caroline marching up to Natasha like she was Supergirl, putting herself in front of the gun like those bullets were going to bounce off her little breasts. Girl's got moxie, for sure.

Huh? Can someone please tell me how Jack got out and Julia asking what took him so long? So now what? Jack has to hide from the FBI? What a lame ending to what was the best out of all these shows. Why didn't Supercut just die and Jack bounce back from the cure and get out? He only had 32 seconds before it blew up, how'd he live? What happened to the promo of Jack running and saying GET OUT OF THE HOUSE, GET OUT OF THE HOUSE? So much editing must have gone on at the last minute. I'm so bummed. This show had me glued until the last episode. I wanted Caroline with Jack and Julia. A wedding too. What happened to their quick wedding they were planning? And they put what's his name Alex from Desire in the jail with Borg? Fashion House had the worst ending, this is a close second. I thought Wicked Wicked Ways would go out stupid, instead it went out cavity sweet and this one ended a huge WTH? What a let down.

BTW, the guy from Desire wasn't gay on that show, someone asked that. Also we never saw Julia running in that yellow top. The blowing up of the car and Jack walking away, that was just SuperCut's dream? It never played out. That would have been a good ending. Ugh sorry I'm just so disappointed. This is it for me I'm sure not going to watch a 2 hour soap twice a week on a network that can't give us one really good arc all the way through.

I told y'all that girl had more heart and guts than most of the grown women around her! Those self-defense lessons really came in handy. Admittedly, I did gasp at Natasha's "confession." Like, DAYUM! You mean you would take out a child even though you can't have the daddy anyway? I always knew Natasha didn't like Caroline because of a pissy remark she made to her a few weeks ago. It just never occurred to me she saw her as an obstacle to her one-sided lurvv for Supercuts.

I was disappointed in the ending too. Here are my observations for all they are worth.

Natasha hates people, especially woman who love Supercuts. EWWWW she should have jumped on him after his wife died. I was confused by the fact that Natasha didn't want to kill the wife but then said to Caroline that she was in her way and that she killed the mother because she was in the way??

As for Caroline I was surprised by the fact that she ended up living with Nutty at the end.

Boris seemed comfortable in prison. He can finally be himself and not take orders anymore. Poor Natasha will never experience love.

As for Jack showing up at Julia's door, I think that scene takes place in the future because she finally gets her PhD and he was hiding from the Feds. That was sweet that they could finally be together!

I didn't see the reason why Christine needed to be killed off??

All in all the ending was very lame but at least they didn't leave you hanging forever wondering what happened to the characters ala The Sopranos.

Me too. What was the point of the picture of Jack, Julia, and Caroline in Julia's hallucination then? It was such an anvil at the time.

i kno what you mean dubbel..the ending is kind of rush since we haven't kno how jack got out of the house within 36 seconds..i really want to see the small weddin that they planned earlier and you're right i can't believe caroline end up with natalie and eric but i guess the director kinda put it together when natalie told eric that she started to like and worry about caroline..

escapetochg thanks so much I didn't really put it together that Julia had her PHD and time had passed. At least it makes me feel a little better about the ending, but I feel bad that Jack had to run from the FBI when he did everything he could to save the world and family. I thought they had enough evidence of proof and Jack had both chemicals in his system so he could have gone right to the FBI, but whatever I just hope we see Todd again somewhere. The ending really was rushed. Some things we never did see like Julia running with the yellow shirt. Jack yelling get out of the house, so some things were edited out. I saw Catherine and Casper interviewed and Catherine said we get to see Andre in a purple robe which is what Ryan was wearing one morning so that was cut out as well. Anyone bothering with the new ones coming up? I think I'm done.

Tiny, I think we are are confused because they kept showing us the preview ending and that is what we expected. I don't know why they changed a lot of the story line since filming the preview, but you can't expect perfection from "low budget" productions. Hell they didn't even have a good makeup artist! I was also very annoyed by the endless commercials that took time away from WOM's finale.

Does anyone remember what charges where brought against Natasha and Boris? All I remember was fraud.

Yes bring on more Todd! Jesus he is so gorgeous!! I doubt I will have much interest in a once a week 2 hour soap too. Too hard to remember from one week to another.

Compared to the cheesy greatness of the Wicked Wicked Games finale, this was not only a letdown, it sucked like a hooker on payday. Ludicrous doesn't even begin to describe some parts of it. There are Lost plotlines that are less far-fetched. For one thing, how did Jack survive? How did he escape? Why is he letting his family believe he's dead? Why did Gabrielle leave Michael? How did Michael initially get infected? What about Ryan and Malanie? Did they vanish off the face of the earth?

As for Leandra, her belief that killing Caroline-Michael's daughter-would make Michael love her was BSC of Blythe Hunter proportions. Speaking of crazy, when it comes to Michael, calling him that would be an understatement. His killing innocent people was bad enough, to say the least, but expecting Caroline to stay on lockdown for the rest of her life, no questions asked? Please!

But the biggest disappointment of all was Andre. I can't believe I ever felt sorry for him. I didn't expect Andre to be a saint, but I didn't expect him to be a self-loathing cliche, either. Apparently the only man Andre ever lurved was Michael, not Ryan, proving that he and Leandra had even more in common than they thought.




Boris is Andre. His now ex-lover's name is Ryan, who hopefully moved on to saner pastures.

Oops. I knew Boris=Andre, but my fingers didn't. At any rate, Boris showed he wasn't totally OMG TEH EVUL.



She didn't, really, since Michael killed her. She wanted to leave because she'd finally had enough of his nefarious plans to take over the world. Gabs was a little slow on the uptake at times.

Attacking Jack, threatening Christine, abducting Julia and killing Isaac proved otherwise, IMO.





Michael had her killed; it was Leandra who did the actual dirty work.

Andre was great with the threats, not so great with the follow-through; and Jack was nearly always able to distract him with talk. Plus, he was a little hesitant at the very end there. That makes Andre not evil to the core in my book. YMMV, obviously. I do hate him for killing Isaac, my favorite henchman.

As for Gabs, Michael may have delegated, but she wouldn't be dead if he hadn't wanted it. Poor Leandra. Never got to get her freak on with Michael. I suspect he may have even enjoyed it.

ETA: The show ended yesterday and already I can't keep any character names/nicknames straight. D'oh!

Natasha and Michael never to be lovers. So very sad. I need some retail therapy to get over it.

I loved the set they used for the house/compound of Michael Krieger. I'm on a search to find out who the architect was. Does anyone know who it was? or where I can find this information?!

I must find it!

Thanks!

I am sorry I don't know anything about the actual house but the one they blew up was deff a set. It looked so incredibly cheap.

Big glowy explosion, though. I dug that.

However, I'm still pissed to no end that both Alfred and Christine Baden got whacked. What the hell was that shit? You just had to finish taking a whiz on our happy ending, MNTV?

Flip side: Boris and Natasha both went to jail...Natasha after she got knocked the FUCK out by Caroline (Caitlin McCarthy just might be the most improved actress of the entire cast) and in some sort of frakked-up epilogue Boris gets to make Eddie from Desire his bitch. Okaaaay.

Oh, and wow--Supercuts's zombie impression was absolutely impeccable.

Bill I just want to say that I was happy that they brought back Boobella one last time! I agree Bill there was no reason to kill off Alfred and Christine. I was surprised that Natasha and Boris made it as long as they did. Now they deserved to be died not Alfred and Christine.

I have a question, I can't get the player to play the recaps on the MyNetwork TV website. It starts then it stops and you get no action. What should I be doing to make it watchable. I use FireFox.

I am at a loss tonight because I always looked forward to seeing yummy yummy Todd.

Ok, I have just a big old WTF to add. Just finished watching this.

Seriously!!!! Why in the world would Jack have to fake his own death??? Surely whatever logic-deprived-MNTV "proof" they had would exonerate him? I kept expecting the real explanation--like, when Caitlin and the folks were crying I thought, ok, they're spoofing us, they're crying with relief and catharsis, but they know he's ok. Was SURE the kid (nice pistol whip, btw, Caroline!!!) would end up w/ J&J. THought we'd have a wedding. Also, I know the "PhD" sign would make you think a lot of time had passed, but.....this is MNTV, she could have been on the fasttrack. Then wondered if "what took you so long" was literal or just silly flirty stuff....like, he ran out for a carton of milk to lose the FBI. GGGRRR..

Seriously, Jack was like the quintessential good guy, why have him on the run! That SUCKS.

And as much as I enjoyed the final boobella/gabs hallucination, I wish Caroline had been less humane with her father. He deserved one of her right hooks before he gargled on his own blood. Or at least a SPECIFIC reference to him murdering her mother, not just "I know everything."


Dude, I am supremely annoyed by that one tiny detail at the end. THought the finale was fast paced and pretty cool, but why couldn't the epilogue have had your basic jack-got-out-now they're married, blahblah-reveal (they could have borrowed WWG's cheese.)

And I KNEW he'd survived, bc finding only 2 bodies meant=Michael and CHristine. That right there was the tipoff (should watch that part again to see Julia's face.)

Someone give me some plausible explanation as to why he'd be on the run??

Only other thought I had was that he went back into special ops, which makes no sense.


GGGGAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!




ETA: Happy little Boris-in-prison smile, enjoying the view, was pretty great. I guess the "get back...trust me" was his only mini redemption.

.....AND, this is the second cameo he's had here!! (Wasn't it alex, though?) Anyway, he played that tv chef that Natalie and Issac were watching.

If the show gets put on DVD I sure hope that they fix the ending to make it more like the preview and add some additional material that might have been edited out due to time constraints.

Anyone bothering with the new ones coming up? I think I'm done.

Oh yeah, definitely done with this b.s. I was REALLY ticked off with the lame-ass ending. At least WWG had a nice touch at the end. WOM's ending sucked big time. And like someone else said, I will not invest 2 hours a night over a 6-8 month stretch for this mess. Plus, the ads didn't excite me AT ALL.

Heh! I fully expected him to give her an "Oh, what the hell!" tumble when he thought he was going to live forever. When he picked her up and hugged her, she looked positively orgasmic as if that was the most thrilling thing that's ever happened in her dull existence.

I guess it's only fitting that she's in jail and doomed to her own existence now.

De-lurking to ask......

I'll freely admit I didn't watch all of this series, but: Is it me or did they set-up the end of WOM just the right way so that if it had done well in the ratings they would have come back and done another series with these characters?

I mean Jack is hiding from the Feds (why? I don't know, as other people said isn't there evidence to exonerate him?), and it would be so simple to have him work for the Feds so he can openly be with Julia and let his family know he is alive. Those two (along with his family) seem to have been left somewhat in limbo (in spite of that last scene with them. I mean, whoo-hoo, he's on the run - she's being watched by the feds.....)

Two of the bad guys aren't dead, but in jail. One of whom - Andre - was/could have been/going to be/no clue???? in some sort of redemption/relationship/story with Ryan (pick your favorite.) So there's some plot material there. One - or both - could easily be brought back in by the Feds to "help out" so they could get out of prison.

There's probably other stuff that I've missed, but I just thought I'd put it out there....

I'd love to see a sequel to WOM this time with a better more organized story line.

Ok, two things.

1) I had the thought that--perhaps--there was a better-explained ending left on the cutting room floor due to some contractual stuff for Capser/Catherine. I mean, think about it: they're the biggest names on the show, they get the big "and starring..." at the end of the credits, and then, even though they're supporting characters, they get the FINAL PARTING SHOTS on the show? I mean, yeah, the little Andre smirk was quite brilliant, but it was a hell of an off-topic way for the series to end. It was supposed to be Julia and Jack's love story first, THEN a thriller....and we get this crappy 10 second weak ass Cahoon-sighting for our J&J ending? Uh-uh. I wonder if C&C's agent(s) had some serious pull there and got the ending re-edited. It seemed WAY too disjointed to make sense, and I really wonder if, once the show started airing, someone in their camps was NOT pleased and wanted the finale to end up at least somewhat more centered on them?

Just a theory. Because the storyline always was practically over-explained, and then, when it really mattered they'd leave us w/ questions??

2) This may be a bit (a lot?) of fan-wanking. BUT, after checking out the "photo recaps" of the finale on the MNTV past shows web-page, it ocurred to me that I/we could have interpreted it wrong. From the way they (typos and lack of punctuation not withstanding) captioned the last photos, I got the impression that Jack was not DELIBERATELY faking his own death/hiding from the feds. Instead, I got the sense that perhaps it took him this long to get back to them. I know we have no real reason to believe that, but except for the feds visiting Julia, we have no reason to think she was actively lying for Jack either. So my thought here (makes the crapass ending SLIGHTLY more palatable) is thus: Jack escapes/survives the explosion, but the impact perhaps does something to his short-term memory? Maybe? Also, he still has Perseus in his system. So he somehow gets w/ the CDC to get it extracted in a non-killing-him way. Maybe he stays out of sight until Boris and Natasha are put away to protect both himself and his fam/Julia? Whatever. MNTV sucks for this ending. The point is, on the website, why would they make a point of mentioning the perseus still in his system unless that had something to do with the delay. And I believe that even if Julia didn't know for SURE that he'd survived (i.e. hiding him from the feds), she was the only other one (besides boris/natasha) that knew Christine had been killed in there. So the fact that only 2 bodies were found--I think she'd be smart enough to know that Jack had somehow made it out of there. (Hence "what took you so long" not necessarily meaning that she was in on some hiding-from the feds-hoax, btu just KNEW b/c of their DEEP Luuuurve that he was alive.)

Thoughts? I'm a total loser.

I am into serious WOM withdrawal right now! I still find myself humming that theme song promptly at 9:00 p.m.

Now, I also thought at one point that maybe Jack was being monitored by the CDC because of the Perseus in his system.

The ending made absolutely no sense to me. One of the promos, "You've seen love save the day," didn't exactly pan out that way. I was looking forward to that quiet wedding between Jack and Foolia, and I still don't understand how Caroline ended up living with Nutalie. I also thought a considerable amount of time was wasted with Ryan and his blubbering over Alfred's ashes. I was also bummed out that Alfred and Christine didn't get to have their happily ever after. But Alfred went out like a soldier.

The whole ending was a disaster so don't call yourself a loser!

I tried watching that American Heiress but it sucked big time and I give myself little hope of ever seeing it again.

I do hope that WOM will have another ending and a sequel. It seemed to be a success.

It may be true that they gave the ending to Casper and Catherine, but I didn't really care about the villains on this on, as much as WWG. You root for the good guys in this one. Yeah, it does feel cheated, like just cause its a cheaper production they gave us a disapointing ending. The guy that looks like Quagmire on American Heiress really can't reach the level of Tatum O'Neal's villainy, nor seem as coldhearted as Michael on WOM. Then there is that guy from "The Nanny" a Brit trying to play a hispanic/latino on "saints and sinners". Hmmm lame. I really can't find myself getting attached to either new show. Nor want to devote my time to that. Although MCA is probably fun to watch, real acting, there. I also do think that Watch Over Me could have sequel potential. Alas I have a hole in my need for entertainment, that can't be filled yet. Oh well....

I guess I'll just have to wait for DVDS or to get some tapes from others who may have taped them from here. both wwg and wom.