Because I have no life I got to wondering what sort of results you'd get if you put the Harry Potter sorting hat on various VM characters. Here's my take on some of the cast.


Ravenclaw

Veronica
Mac
Hamilton Cho (Hamilton Cho. Cho Chang. Hmmm...)
Cervondo Luna


Slytherin

Logan
Duncan
Dick
Cassidy
Madison Sinclair
Shelly Pomroy
Sean Friedrich


Hufflepuff

Meg
Gia
Butters
Weevil (loyalty is big with the Huffelpuffs, remember)
Corny
Hanna Griffith


Gryffindor

Wallace
Carmen


Thoughts?

I would actually say Mac's a Slytherin, based mostly off of her characterization in "Like a Virgin". And Logan doesn't really fit my idea of Slytherin, but I can't think of another house he'd fit better, so... Same case with Dick - Dick is very not ambitious or cunning. I could almost see Dick in Hufflepuff, which would be totally amusing. And Wallace, I'd almost definitely put in Hufflepuff, not Gryffindor.

I think I'd but Veronica in Gryffindor, yes she is smart. But the girl has balls, big ones.

I don't know about Duncan in Slytherin either, before the finale I would say no way. Maybe in Ravenclaw, I don't know. He is supposed to be quite smart.

Gryffindor
Veronica
Keith
Wallace(started out in hufflepuff, I think he is becoming more Gryffindor)

Ravenclaw
Mac
Duncan

Slytherin
Weevil
Logan
Dick
Beaver
Aaron
Kenscilla
Jackie

Hufflebuff
lots of random people

A lot of people in Slytherin yes, but hey, this is a noir show.

"Like a Virgin" was just one episode though. And that was Mac using her computer skills and psychology to pull off her plan. Just like Veronica often does.

Dick is more the Carrbe/Goyle kind of Slytherin. Sort of an evil version of Fred and George.


As for Logan, he's the hardest to pin down as he shows the traits desired by each house. He can be a nasty SOB with no love for anyone who's not an 09ers. He's smart enough to "pull essays out of his ass", he'll stick with his friends through almost anything, and he'll stand up to just about anyone if he thinks it's the right thing to do.

If Logan's so hard to sort, then shouldn't he probably be in Gryffindor? That's what happened with Harry, anyway. :)

The thing with her is always "Veronica Mars is smarter than me." Veronica has guts by the truckload, but it's her brain that really makes her dangerous.

kimilu - I agree with you. Logan would be a Gryffindor but the sorting hat would have to think about it. I also think Wallace would be a Hufflepuff as would Gia and Cora. Madison is definitely a Slytherin too.

While he would seem a good canidate for Hufflepuff, Wallace is a Gryffindor IMO for the reason that he really is very brave. In episode one he stands up to the PHCs three times (by calling the cops, by not hiding at home, and by telling Weevil he'll be keeping the tape). Heck, just the other week he tackled a guy with a gun he had every reason to think had really bullets in it. He's also stood up to his mom's nut job tenant and Veronica when she took advantage of their friendship.

Dumbledor himself even pointed out that it takes real courage to stand up to your friends.

Gryffindor ->

Casey - he's hard to categorize but he doesn't necessarily seem to be concerned with being smart, he's not just about sweet and loyal and he's doesn't have ulterior motives so I think he fits best in Gryffindor

Veronica - You could make a case for Ravenclaw, but even though she's intelligent I think she makes a lot of decisions that are not necessarily intelligent, which makes her a lot like Hermione since she's the smartest one in her class, but sometimes her heart rules.

Logan (He reminds me of a younger James and Sirius...they were asses to Snape when they were younger, but they had good hearts and courage)

Wallace because in HGL, even though he hasn't always been portrayed as the bravest, he came through when Jackie needed him...sort of like Neville...

Keith - He'd be the head of Gryffindor of course :)

Ravenclaw ->

Duncan
Mac
Meg

Hufflepuff->

Gia
Mandy

Slytherin ->

Madison
Weevil
Dick
Sean
Beaver
Carrie
Shelly
Jackie - her heart's not evil, but she was leading a lie she perpetuated
Haaron - I would put Haaron as Headmaster over Lamb because I hate Haaron more
Lamb
Kendall

Weevil couldn't be in Slytherin; so he's a bully and gangsta but he has a heart of gold...sort of.

I think Weevil's ethical lines are a little TOO grey to be anywhere else other than Slytherin, especially with the chop shop as most likely his major source of income...he is extremely loyal but I don't think he has the sweetness or naivety I tend to associate with other Hufflepuffs :) I definitely don't see him in Ravenclaw and as for Gryffindor, surrounding yourself with a gang to do your dirty work seems more Slytherin instead to me...yes, he came through for the PCHs against the Fitzpatricks, but I would put that as loyalty again which would make him an extremely grey...Hufflepuff??? :)

It's not fair to paint everyone who's evil on the show as a Slytherin. As has been pointed out, evil people have come from the other houses. Peter as a prime example.

Okay, first post. Or third repeated post, in which case I'm sorry, I'm a moron - but one with good intentions.


Gryffindor

Veronica - Clever, yes, but willing to dive into some scary situations, often without backup (or Backup). This makes for more interesting adventures, but suggests that she's willing to overestimate her abilities or underestimate the challenge instead of taking the safe, dull route.
Hannah - I hate putting Dearest Doppleganger anywhere near Veronica - especially not between LoVe - but it seems to fit. The girl jumps to conclusions, follows her heart, and sticks to her guns at the risk of boarding school. And she inspires me to a ridiculous number of cliches. By these powers combined, she is Gryffindor.
Logan - I wanted to put him in Slytherin, but he just seemed a better fit for Gryffindor. Logan is capable of nasty plots and cruel jokes, but his emotional state tends to override anything else going on. (And there's that utter disregard for physical damage, no doubt fueled by a fun childhood with psychotic!abusive!megastar!dad.) I agree that he's a good equivalent in the Veronicaverse for Sirius - he even tends to pick up wrongful accusations! - but, like Sirius, it's difficult to make anything stick but the bad rep.
Keith - Relentlessly awesome. The kind of Gryffindor that makes me want to like Gryffindor.


Hufflepuff

Duncan - Spirit points? Kidnapping daughter to keep word to ex? Shutting out Veronica for the Kanes and 09ers in the post-Lilly drama? Duncan likes to try and do what's "best" for the community. Strongest example? Leaving Neptune. Thank you, Duncan, for doing what's best for the VM audience.
Weevil - He saved the gang after being humiliated by the same bunch. Weevil seems to be pretty clannish; while he expects attacks from outside his group, he is always surprised when one of his circle betrays him. Oh, Weevil, you should've learned after the Paris Hilton episode. He's hopelessly Hufflepuff.
Wallace - I love Wallace like anything, and he is very loyal, but I don't think of him as especially brave. I think he'd risk his life for someone he cared about - like standing up to the scary tenant in Season 1, or tackling Lucky more recently - but he would rather avoid causing trouble otherwise. Like with the basketball player in Season 2. He also spends more time than anyone else urging Veronica to relax and forgive people.


Slytherin

Dick - Slytherin is the default classification for not-terribly-bright but incredibly nasty. He doesn't seem especially ambitious now, but if he takes after his father, we can expect it to develop. In any case, he seems willing to follow family traditions...and if the elder Casablancas had gone to Hogwarts, he certainly would've been a Slytherin.
Cassidy - Whimper, once I would've said Ravenclaw. But even if Cassidy were playing innocent, he would've followed family tradition into Slytherin.
Madison Sinclair - Pansy?
Butters - Willing to use his proximity to power to, er, make friends and influence people.
Troy - Even if he is reformed, he's still slimy. I say this as someone who likes Troy. And Slytherins.


Ravenclaw

Hamilton Cho - Aww. Hamilton's so great. I don't have anything to say here; I'm just agreeing with the earlier classification. And being a stupid fangirl.
Mac The purity test was pretty sneaky, but she just seems too vulnerable/caring to be a good Slythfit.
Meg - This was a tough classification for me, but she doesn't seem to fit anywhere else. Like A Virgin showed that she's not the bravest gal out there, and he continuing respect for Veronica despite the condemnations of the 09ers argues against Hufflepuff. Despite her resentment during the pregnancy, Meg just isn't duplicitous enough to make a good Slytherin. She seems to be active in a lot of extracurriculars, though, and that's gotta take brains. (No, seriously. If you're the head anchorperson and head actress and cheerleader and make good grades...it adds up. I guess.)
Clarence Wedeman - This might be a stretch, but I like it. CW gets the job done without any noticeable moral qualms, which seems awfully Slytherin. But many of his supersneaky abilities seem part of the job. Furthermore, I'm sure CW could wield even more power if he were willing to take a risk on potential betrayal. I like to think CW chooses to stay in a job that's low-profile, highly profitable, and allows him to deal in knowledge.

Anyone else see Lianna as being a Huffelpuff?

She had an ongoing affair with Jake, she blew her daughter's college money and then stole $50k from her daughter and husband.

Lianne's a Slytherin.

Duncan would be a Ravenclaw I think, isn't he kind of smart?

In theory, Donut is very smart, so I'd also see him in Ravenclaw as well :)

But when did he ever do anything really smart in the series?

See, that is the problem...anything regarding Duncan has to be implied. the writers jacked him up so they could write about other characters.

Lianne is characterized as weak and someone who lets things happen to her, like her addiction, the affair. She is the opposite of brave, so not a Griffindor, not very smart but not intentionally malicious to be a Slytherine. She is a Hafflepuf.

Keith is a clear cut Griffindor, he just doesn't belong to any other house.

Veronica is a little harder to place. In her dream, we saw a version of her as a naive miss sunshine without much drive or ambition(SDSU). That Veronica would be in Hafflepuf.
The Veronica we all know and love could arguably be in any house but H. She is ruthless and vengefull which makes a case for her being a Slytherine. Her incredible intelligence and wit and drive to succeed places her clother to Ravenclaw, while her loyalty to friends and family and her disregard for danger puts her in Griffindor.
Last year, especialy in the beginning, she was closer to Slytherine but after meeting Walace and befriending other people, I would put her in Ravenclaw. People mentioned her "Veronica Mars is smarter then you" moto. I believe that is what's behind her motivations. Beyond anything, she wants to succeed. Even if by nature she is more a Griffindor, if she had a choice she would chose Ravenclaw.

Logan is someone who has a capacity for good and evil and as someone with a larger then life personality should be either in Slytherine or Griffindor. By his actions, standing by Veronica, friendship with Duncan, aliance with Weevil inability to get ahead by hurting an inocent - Hannah, he should be in Griffindor. This is something I would never dream saying after watching the first episode.

Duncan - a Hufflepuf, strongly reminds me of Cedric.

Wallace, Griffindor loyal to the people he loves.

Weevil, would be insulted if anyone placed him in Hufflepuf, not smart enough for Ravenclaw and should be in Slytherine with an option of not going evil.

Principle Clemmence, at the core a not so bad guy, is clever enough for Ravenclaw.

Deputy Lamb wishes he was in Slytherine but would only make a Hufflepuf.

Mac, Ravenclaw.

Trina, Hufflepuf.

Dick, certainly not a Ravenclaw or a Griffindor. Too much of a dick to be anything but Slytherine.

I actually think you could make a case for Veronica to be placed in Slytherin. She uses people, constantly asks 'favours' and plays people against one another. S1 Veronica was definitely a 'good' Slyth. This year, not so sure where I'd put her - she's stepped back from the mystery scene and stuck to the more ethical channels.

Wallace, Gryf all the way.

How the hell would Lamb be a Hufflepuff? He's not loyal, he's not hard-working... The problem with "sorting" any characters from a show into the Hogwarts houses is that people always wind up putting the characters they don't like into the houses they don't like, whether or not the character even vaguely fits the description.

I especially love how the justification for a lot of characters being put in Gryffindor is that they're loyal to their friends. Which is, you know, a Hufflepuff quality.

I'm having a slight problem with the "Slytherin = evil" thing here. I know that's the impression we get in the books, but the books are largely from Harry's POV, and he's a bit biased. Slytherins are supposed to be cunning and ambitious (I know, that doesn't explain Crabbe and Goyle, but I'm going by what the Sorting Hat says). Just because someone does evil things doesn't mean they should be automatically categorized as Slytherin. Harry himself could have been sorted there!

Characters like Cassidy, who formed a rather complicated plan to go about achieving what he needed to, would fit in Slytherin. But S1 Veronica could also fit there, IMO, because of how she went about finding Lilly's murderer.

I haven't seen anyone mention it--where would you sort Lilly?

Heh. Word. Part of the trouble with sorting anyone - even if you are the sorting hat - is that the hat seems awfully influenced by personal preference, family history, etc. One thing I try to keep in mind classifying Slytherins - why people like Crabbe and Goyle make it, and why I think Dick would fit in well - is that ruthlessness seems to be about as important as ambition. One gets the feeling C&G would do anything commanded...and at Shelly Pomroy's party, Dick showed that he has no qualms in a) drugging his girlfriend to get some and b) setting up drugged!Veronica so his brother could get some. His ambitions aren't impressive to many, but he'll do anything to reach his goal. (People can be devious without being very smart...I'm especially thinking of Madison.)

Um. And I didn't mean to only use eeeeevil characters. I think a few people have mentioned that the traits that make a good PI can also make a pretty good Slytherin. I love pushing VM on first-timers to see what they'll be most appalled at: evidence tampering, theft of medical records, bugging a confessional...the list goes on. Baaaad Veronica, invading privacy and breaking laws to achieve her own ends.



Ooh. Did we all skip Lilly? I see her as a Gryffindor - reckless disregard of responsibilities, circumstances, etc, in pursuit of sensation.

All right, fine, I give in...


Ravenclaw
Mac (I think she fits in Slytherin as well.)
Keith (I think he fits in Hufflepuff as well.)
CDubzz (I think he fits in Slytherin as well as Hufflepuff...actually Gryffindor too.)

Slytherin
Logan
Kendall
Beaver
The Fitzpatricks
Lianne
Madison
Trina
Aaron
Troy (I think he fits in Gryffindor as well.)

Hufflepuff
Wallace
Weevil
Backup
Backup 2.0
Hannah
Lily
Dick
Gia
Jackie

Gryffindor
Veronica (I think she fits in Slytherin as well.)
Duncan (I think he fits in Slytherin as well.)
Lamb
Meg

How in the world does does Lamb fit into Gryffindor? Or Dick in Huffelpuff?

Where does Lilly fit in hufflepuff? She's obviously not stupid, she's manipulative and self centred, yes deeply devoted to the people she loves but not at risk to herself. Lilly is a slytherin all the way.

I see Mac as more of a Gryffindor. She kind of reminds me of Fred and George.

OK let's see:

Slytherin:
Veronica (cunning and ambition personified!)
Kendall
Aaron
Lamb (to get the Sheriff position he had to be ambitious and at least a little cunning)
Lilly
Troy
Clarence Wiedman
Jackie

Ravenclaw:
Mac (though I almost put her in Grffindor)
Beaver (ok the evil 'mastermind' deal makes him seem more like Slytherin but I just don't see him there...)
Duncan (pretty much all he has going for him really)

Hufflepuff:
Logan (I know I'm going to cope it for this, but I think you can argue that he is very loyal so it applies)
Dick (mainly cos I don't think he's intelligent enough for any of the other houses, and to be fair he's loyal to Logan if nothing else)
Wallace (but borderline Gryffindor)
Gia

Gryffindor:
Weevil
Keith (though he really could fit in any category but I'm mostly thinking s1 Finale here)-
Carmen
Meg (I initially had her in Hufflepuff, but then reflected on her family situation)

I didn't bother with Trina or Hannah or Lianne or Madison - I figure they'd all be squibs (and Dick and Duncan might be too). I find it interesting that for me most inhabitants of Neptune fit in Slytherin.

Two quick points:
Deputy Leo: Hufflepuff, hands down.

A point I didn't see raised yet is that it seems that obviously-not-Slytherin HP characters who fall into multiple categories tend to end up in Gryffindor. Take Hermione and VM, who I think are both very similar: Both were far smart enough to fit into Ravenclaw, but ended up going Gryffindor because you need smarts to be truly brave. (Veronica has a lot of Harry-esque traits, too, but that's a whole other point.)
I'd make the same case for Wallace, because although Hufflepuffish loyalty is his best trait, he's also brave enough to help Veronica when the going get's tough, like Ron.
I think the folk who end up in Ravenclaw are so academically focused that's all they care about -- such as that annoying girl who beat Veronica for the Kane Scholarship at the end and is going to Stanford. (Can't remember her name just now.) Ditto for Hufflepuff: It's all about the hard-work, crusin' onto the next thing sort of life, which I'd put I-love-Molly-Fitzpatrick but-then-I-got-stabbed Felix into.


And, let me just say that this is a great thread. Cheers :)

Yeah, but like Dumbledore once told him, that was because Harry possesses quailites Salazar Slytherin valued...total disregard for the rules is a fine example of this. That is a Slytherin thing, but also a Gryffindor thing. Most people tend to associate Slytherin with evil because I think someone (Ron maybe?) said in the first book that "there wasn't a witch or wizard who'd gone bad who wasn't in Slytherin..." Yes, they are ambitious and clever but most of them tend to have a darkness hidden within. Harry has one ... but he also has a lot of goodness too. That's why he's always in conflict. And why it was hard for the Sorting Hat to decide where to put him.

Back on Topic:

I think Veronica would be in Gryffindor, hands down. In a way, Veronica is almost like the female version of Harry. She's very curious about things, very protective of the people she cares about and she doesn't care about following rules as long she's helping someone.

Wallace = Ron. Therefore, Gryffindor as well. You could argue that he's also fit to be a Hufflepuff because he's so loyal to Veronica but Ron is just as loyal (if not more) and he's a Gryffindor so...

Mac = Ravenclaw. She's incredibly smart and resourceful.

Duncan = This is hard one. I know he cannot be a Hufflepuff because Duncan isn't very noble or loyal...
So Ravenclaw, probably. But then again, they are supposed to be the smart ones, and Duncan may be an excellent student but not very intelligent when it comes to other things. Like relationships, for example. ;)

Keith = Gryffindor, duh. He's brave and wise.

Lilly = Not a Gryffindor or a Hufflepuff. I don't know about Ravenclaw, though.
What I do know is that Lilly was a conniving little liar. She'd most likely be in Slytherin.

Dick = Hufflepuff. For now, anyway. From what I've seen, Dick appears to be loyal to his friends. And Hufflepuffs are for the most part average joes...just like Dick.

Beaver = Definitely a Slytherin. Sure, he was clever but he also had everyone fooled. Much like Tom Riddle.

Logan = I think Logan's a Gryffindor at heart. He makes his own rules and is also protective of the people he loves. He'll go to great lenghts for them.

And Weevil? Hufflepuff, for sure. He's a leader of a gang. Loyalty is very important for him.

I really like this idea lol, I only came across it today! I like the way people associate characters in order to place them in the right house.

Gryffindor:
Veronica (the Harry)
Keith
Logan (the Sirius/James)
Wallace (the Ron or the Neville n the dreadlocks make me think of Lee Jordan though thats irrelevent)

Slytherin:
Cassidy (the Tom Riddle)
Madison
Lamb (the Lucius, though not as influential with evil)
Lilly

Hufflepuff:
Hannah (very loyal and kind of naive)
Weevil (he is a tough one, very loyal but too clever and streetsmart for hufflepuff really, in a way he could be Gryffindor but I don't think he is selfless enough, he isn't ambitious enough for Slytherin as he is rash rather than cunning and I don't think he's a Ravenclaw)
Dick (happy-go-lucky)
Leo n Sacks

Ravenclaw:
Mac (though she could be the Luna/Ginny)
Duncan (he wud make an excellent Cedric, but I don't think he's brave enough)

I'm sure I've overlooked thousands of character points in both VM and HP so tell me what you think.

Time to close up shop for the fall season.