Since CB said we could continue this discussion in this forum, I figured I would go ahead and start the thread.

In case you didn't get it from the title, don't come in here if you don't want to be SPOILED!

In case it's not clear from the title, this thread is for discussion of the spoilers from Ausiello's TV Guide blog such as:

****** is ******** at graduation.

I'm winging it here, but maybe it's Beaver is murdered at graduation? Please, please, don't let this be true.

***** and ******* have sex.
...Logan and Kendall? Because, ew.
But if the spec that Logan and Veronica are romantically linked is true, then maybe it could be Aaron?

***** fails to show up at *** ******* and leaves ******** waiting.
Keith/Logan fails to show up at the airport and leaves Veronica waiting.

The only two that I think are iron-clad are:

Weevil is arrested at graduation.

Keith captures Woody.

I'm pretty sure that some others are correct, but not 100%.

I don't think we need spoiler tags in this thread because it's basically a spoiler thread.

Based on the spoilers we already have, I think it's probably Weevil is arrested at graduation.

I stated in the "speculation with spoilers" thread that I think one of the clues works out to:

Mac tells Veronica that Beaver (has/had) made a bomb.

Since it looks like Tina Majorino will continue to be important in the series next season, it would make sense to give her some heavy lifting to do in the season finale, like ratting (haha) out her ex-boyfriend/by-then-current-boyfriend after they lose their virginities to one another.

Are people fairly certain about:

Anything that reveals that ******** and ***** are ************ ****** at the end of the episode.

being....

Anything that reveals that Veronica and Logan are romantically linked at the end of the episode.



Or is there another possibility we could come up with for that specific phrase?

I'm sure there are other things we could come up with, but I feel pretty certain that that's right--or at least that it gets the gist of it. Of course, I'm a big L/V supporter, so I am probably biased.

I think this is good spec. She might learn this as a result of intercepting his cell phone calls. I always thought the cell phone interceptor mention and how Mac said she was using it to spy on Beav, was a little too specific to just be a throwaway scene.

Yuppielawyer, I also tend to think it's correct. I believe in a previous Finale Spoiler Hangman they also used the term "romantically linked," so it's language common to the show. However, my hopefulness regarding L/V might also be coloring my perceptions. I just want to make sure I have all my bases covered, so I don't get my hopes up for nothing.

5. That Veronica looks at the little league picture and figures out who the missing person is.

11. ****** has ordered the *** of Aaron Echolls.

I also like the "Cindy and Cassidy have sex" rather than "Logan and Kendall" have sex. But that's also cause I hate Kendall's ever-lovin' guts.

I think it's Duncan has order the hit of Aaron Echolls.

***** and ******* have sex.
What about LOGAN and VERONICA have sex ;)

it fits (I know, wisful thinking) but it does explain the breakfast scene. The problem with HAARON is that it has six letters not five unless you spell it like Aaron

Veronica has 8 letters, and there are only 7 asterisks.

my bad! I counted one mor astrisk. damn!

Logan and Veronica could be irreversibly parted as well as romantically linked.

(I hate Logan, so I'm grasping at straws.)

I like the part about Beaver being born a girl more than Beaver making a bomb.

Vinnie Van Lowe in jail is brill. Wonder why, though. But who else has a three part name?

Vinnie Van Lowe is in jail fits but I don't see why or how they will fit that into the episode.

Deputy Don Lamb is in jail has been suggested but Lamb's Sheriff, and that would be some subplot to fit in the finale.

Duncan the Kane is in Maui. Almost works because he was wearing a Hawaiian shirt in the preview. But I don't know why he'd be referred to in that way.

I'm guessing Vinnie's in jail for helping Duncan OR for something he does to help Keith with his undercover work in this ep. I think that's right.

And I'm willing to take my chance on "romantically linked" over "irreversibly parted." A seriously impressive attempt, though.

I read a spoiler on spoilerfix.com about Vinnie and Keith teaming up in the finale to find a guy who has a bounty on him, so I think Vinnie Van Lowe in jail is not a bad guess.

Wow, is there any chance Vinnie and Keith team up to find Duncan? Maybe over the STD reveal, or for some other reason that we don't know yet?

I'm guessing that it's "romantically linked" too. And I think it's Aaron and Kendall have sex, and that Weevil is arrested at graduation. I'm not sure about the others, though. Oh, and even though I think using "Cindy" instead of Mac would make it trickier, why would they refer to her with both names in the same press release?

They could also team up to find Woody, or perhaps to go off in search of who killed/shot Aaron. Maybe that will be the reason Keith leaves Veronica waiting at the airport?

Though I would like Aaron to get his might Logan get shot instead? Aaron seems to have nine lives and Logan is the show’s whipping boy. And when did Duncan get so aggressive?

4. Anything that would indicate that Beaver is the culprit.

10. Woody/Aaron is killed by ******** *******.

12. Goodman's lawyer ***** ***** *** Gia's ****.

Yeah, I'm thinking Vinnie and Keith both go off in search of Woody, but I'm not sure how that leads to Vinnie Van Lowe being in jail or why something like that would be considered such a huge spoiler.

I thought maybe they were looking for Duncan because I'm assuming there's a bounty for him too because of the kidnapping, and because Vinnie is the last person we saw Duncan with. Presumably he has some idea where he is (or at least where he was shortly after DR).

I can't think of any reason why Keith or Vinnie would want Duncan to be found, though. If he's caught, that opens the door to both of them, and Veronica, being charged with all sorts of crimes. It just seems to make more sense that they'd be after Woody since he no doubt has a huge bounty on his head, and we know that Keith wants to see him brought to justice for what he did to those kids, whether he's responsible for the bus crash or not.

Clarence Weidman?

****** Big Dick is in jail? No idea about the first word.

Don't know about many of these but it did occur to me that it could be Aaron and Kendal have sex quite easily.

Oh and I really really don't want the hemaphrodite story - I actually think they've set up the idea that Beaver has been abused quite sensitively and any thing else would be over kill. As to whether he's the mastermind behind it all, that might be hard to swallow but I could believe that some action of his contributed to it certainly.

I go with the romantically linked V & L bit as well and have to say wow Duncan would have had an entirely personality change if he orders Aaron's death, although that would actually be quite cool.

Reason why Dick is in jail? (I'm all about the incarcerated Casablancas today, it seems)

Woody/Aaron is killed by Veronica Echolls...

Don't mind me, I was never really good at hangman.

CaitieUGA, I came up with the same conclusion with Beaver/culprit, although I put villain instead of culprit. :)

The problem with Beaver is that it could be Beaver/Weevil/Duncan... (Although I really don't believe Duncan's to blame.)

Speaking of this, I just went back to Auselio's blog and all the *'s have been replaced by much fuzzier _____, which doesn't account for specific spaces. Did somebody save all of the original clues?

For the Veronica Mars second season finale, please don't reveal:


****** is ******** at graduation.

Mac tells Veronica that ****** *** **** * ****.

What transpires at the Neptune Grand rooftop.

******** that would indicate that ****** ** *** *******.

That Veronica looks at *** ****** ****** ******* and figures out *** *** ******* ****** **.

Anything that reveals that ******** and ***** are ************ ****** at the end of the episode.

Keith ******** *****.

****** *** **** is in *a**.

***** and ******* have sex.

***** ** killed ** ******** *******.

****** has ordered the *** ** ***** *******.

*******'s lawyer ***** *** ***'s ****.

Please do not reveal anything of ****** in *** ****.

***** fails to show up at *** ******* and leaves ******** waiting.

Let the guessing begin....

I bet TPTB were pissed at him big time for giving away so much.

It took us a single day to figure (almost entirely) that stuff out. Unless the sides for the finale were actually foilers, TPTB should pay more attention to their own selves.

ETA:
And by 'us', I mean all of you brilliant people who relentlessly pursued every possible permutation and combination the English alphabet provided.

Curly is killed by Clarence Weidman? In the preview, I saw a black car push Curly off the cliff. In previous episodes, Weidman drove a black car.




Please do not reveal anything of Jackie in New York?

We found out in the sides that Jackie goes to New York, not Paris.

That's interesting speculation that I hadn't considered. In the earlier discussion, someone suggested:

Aaron is killed by Clarence Weidman

I thought that sounded likely, but maybe I was just being hopeful. The black sedan certainly looks more like something Clarence would drive, but I don't really know what his motivation to kill Curly would have been. Does anyone remember if Duncan was ever connected to Curly? I remember most of the 09ers were ...

It looks like a white hand that is writing Veronica Mars.

Yeah, but the killer may not have been the one who wrote on his hand. I've always believed that was written while he was alive.

I took it that after the car hit him the driver got out and wrote on Curly's hand and then dumped Curly off the cliff. So, someone between Curly being beaten and the car hitting him wrote "Veronica Mars" on his hand?

sissykay, I think you're right. If it was someone else, then we're talking about three different people or groups of people encountering Curly on that night--the PCHers, the driver of the car, and some other mysterious person. That just seems like too much to me.

Please do not reveal anything of ****** in *** ****.


Please do not reveal anything of Weevil in his cell??

Maybe something bad happens to our boy once he gets in the pokey?

I think that Curly has written her name on his hand himself. If you check out the angles, it fits to how you would hold your own hands if you were writing on it. I think that part is a red herring and that we are going to see that Curly was going to find Veronica to tell her about the crash before he was killed.

You could be right there are certainly a number of red herrings this year. And yet, his hand looks limp. If I were writing on my hand I would stretch the fingers out while I was writing.

Someone in the spec w/ spoilers thread suggested that "Mac tells Veronica that ****** *** **** * ****." = "Mac tells Veronica that Beaver got them a room." That makes a lot of sense to me.

This makes a lot more sense to me than Beaver was born a girl or has/had made a bomb. It's actually the first spec that seems plausible. Even if Beaver was the culprit, the sentence Beaver has/had made a bomb is just kind of awkward. Anyway I like "Beaver got them a room."

Based on the AOL preview that went up today, it appears that the guess about Vinnie Van Lowe being in jail is definitely right. Although one wonders why it would be a "do not release" item if AOL could just go and put it in their preview.

Maybe Vinnie Vanlowe isn't the only person in jail in the finale.

Logan fails to show up at The Camelot and leaves Veronica waiting.

ETA: and because I refuse to believe Beaver is the killer-

Anything that reveals that Lianne is the culprit.

It's not going to be Lianne. She hasn't appeared all season, and RT specifically said he wouldn't do something like that.

Sorry for the n00b question, but what's a "side"?

Oh. And OHMYGODWOW