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Jacob
...So we don't get the clip show at all? Lame.
Alejandra
Andrea fails miserably at something that involves personality? Shocking...
markedel
Well goodbye to an unlikable person. Sadly no one on the show is very likeable. OTOH while Lee is clearly too young to be a great leader, he showed he has potential.
mtbingmom
THank God!!!
ghettofabman
The clip show came on last night on CNBC. I thought that it would air tonight at Midnight ET/11:00PM CT on NBC.

Anyways, the clipshow last night spelled out the demise of Andrea tonight. She had the most negative edit of all the candidates.
Ashery
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lessa2010
Happy Anniversary to me! Andrea goes bye bye and she got the cobra in the pre-firing boardroom. So satisfying.

I'm a graphic design specailist, I'm a sales specailist. Well, actually, I don't do those things, I hire people to do those things. Idiot.

So glad she is GONE!
Nite System
Good riddance, Mandrea.

Allie was a little scary in this episode! "THIS WILL BE THE BLOODIEST BOARDROOM EVAR!!!11" Yikes. I fear for Sean in the coming weeks because he didn't align himself with Allie and Roxanne, both of whom Trump appears to like very much. Ivanka was the only one who really laid into Allie in the boardroom. Thought that was interesting.

Finally it kills me to say it but Tarek looked kind of cute tonight. =/
ghettofabman
Tarek and Charmaine won the task for Gold Rush tonight. Lee wasn't worth a saltlick!
maudlin
Yeah, I don't like anyone left on the show very much. Andrea was a bossy pill, but Allie was a lot more responsible for the loss than she was, if her estimates of selling 1/4 of their product were accurate. But the Coven Lite convened and Yellow Eye was tossed. Feh.
metrospud
Andrea, Queen of the "BITCHES"
Ashery
Andrea is SOOOOOO coming back in the finals.
Hopefully she's discovered the services of a makeup artist by then.
absolutqt
“She fought the hardest out of all the people that I fired?!!!” Oh Lee, you arrogant little prick…you HAVE to go. If that was supposed to be a joke then it failed miserably however, I think you were deadly serious--full of your own delusional Trumpness as you uttered this rubbish.
yd45
Andrea is one of the biggest jerks that has ever been on the show. I think she is worse than Brent. She has a high and mighty view of herself that is not close to warranted. There was almost no doubt she was going to get fired.

I was glad to see something other than a simple marketing task. About 80% of the episodes this season pretty much asked people to come up with advertising for something or were to figuring out how to sell a product. Trump is supposidely looking for an apprentice and being good at marketing is only one small part of who would be best to hire.
Rowr17
Is George still on this show?

How bad is Don Jr.'s hair? Almost as bad as Andrea's interpersonal skills if you ask me.
Alejandra
Andrea is SOOOOOO coming back in the finals.
Hopefully she's discovered the services of a makeup artist by then.


And eats a cookie.
TiffanyNichelle
It's about damn time. I had to laugh when throughout the episode people kept bringing up that Andrea calls herself a graphic designer but when they got in front of Trump, Andrea says she's good at hiring graphic designers, lol.

I'm so glad she's gone. I was sick of her undermining all the PMs everytime she wasn't in charge. And really if she's so damn good at the bulk sales, why didn't she bring it up in the beginning instead of waiting for Allie to lose.

I can't believe they missed the boat, ha!

I also can't believe I agreed with Trump Jr so many times. He and Ivanka were awesome in the boardroom just going after Andrea. As was Allie. "I put my trust in her and she gave me crap." Nice.

Trump keeps getting so damn close to racist remarks I want to slap him.

Tarek and Charmaine won the task for Gold Rush tonight. Lee wasn't worth a saltlick!


Yup and if they'd lost he would have hung them out to dry. He had fixed perfectly that if they'd lost, none of it was his fault. And Trump already dislikes him. Clever little ass.
JeffMD
wonderful. Finally, the only time we see Lee supporting the goals of his team---when he's now actually under the radar and can't afford to be "squirreling" around. He wasn't exactly taking reign of the key operations here, but at least he isn't just going off on his own anymore.
Hamhock96
Lee rules! He delegated tasks, and he had the idea to get to the dock early and sell to the captive audience in line (which won the task!). Why not let Tarek design the brochure if Tarek can do that and Lee can't? WTF Charmaine that "Lee didn't win the task." Lee rules. He watched the Kendra season and took all her tricks. Whatta guy.
seawind
Is Andrea the first to shed tears in the Crazy Taxi? I don't like her, but I felt bad for her. Not much, just a little tiny bit. I think people who shout to the rooftops how they need to be in control and like to do everything themselves are often shocked that it puts others off so much. It's a blindspot they have.

I don't know how much of the boardroom we didn't see, but I was surprised that Andrea was as reserved as she was. It was like she went in there already defeated.
TripleTimeStep
And that? Is how you take down someone in the boardroom. I really think Allie should have gone, but I have to say that she just wrote the book on how to go in taxi-bound and come out with a place in the suite still intact. She's giving Intense Rebecca a run for her money.

For her part, Andrea had a bad case of Potcallingkettleblackitis.

BTW, I think the Biggest Pain of the Week is whoever came up with this stupid gimmick to bother me before Every. Single. Commercial break to ask me who should be fired tonight. I'm gonna watch the show anyway--no need to bribe me with Getting Rich/Getting Lucky/Making Babies With Trump. So go away.

Finally, wasn't it Charmaine's idea to go the bulk selling route? It sounded like Lee was totally taking credit for that idea. Not that that surprises me.

I like me some Roxanne. I just hope she doesn't pull a Marshawn and fizzle out just when it should be her moment to shine.
YoureSoUrban
My eyes rolled all the way to Cleveland when I first saw Ivanka and Donald Jr. were featured tonight, but now admit I was impressed, in particular with Ivanka's poise and commentary.
EdinPhilly
Talk about talking yourself up and failing to deliver! Andrea, it was SO your time to go.

What's up with Trump browbeating his kids with "You BETTER do well?" I was waiting to hear what the "...or else..." part would be.... "You BETTER do well or else you will have another week in the dungeon?"

Actually the previews for next week were the most interesting. It looks like the triad of Sean, Allie and Roxanne is no more. Who would've thunk? Allie is starting to get a bad edit, too- her moaning "he betrayed me" - is this a bit of paranoia showing its ugly head?

Well, Allie and Roxanne still have each other. (sorry!)

Lee, way to ride on the coattails of Tarek and Charmaine. Is THAT all it takes to work for Trump? Forget the Jewish holidays and all that, Lee is really coasting here. I would hate to see him win just from the momentum of all the work that others did for him. Am I the only one who feels that way?
Ashery
Andrea is SOOOOOO coming back in the finals.
Hopefully she's discovered the services of a makeup artist by then.


And eats a cookie.


Come on! When the going got tough she drowned her sorrows in a handful of sesame snacks. *murmurs* "bitch. unbelievable"
Ptzop
I think the only reason Andrea got fired was that she didn't fight back in the boardroom. Just not in her personality to do so. She wasn't very likable and definitely didn't have a a made-for-reality-TV personality, but I like her far more than the Allie. Allie's only skill appears to be catfighting.

Trump telling Roxanne she speaks well. Didn't he make a similar comment to the black woman contesant last year? It's one of those things he does that makes this show feel like a satire version of itself.

Donald Jr looked like a chubby version of Tarek.
markedel
It's not all coast. Lee saw the task-sales, with clarity and he delivered. Others could do it better, but Lee did do it.
TigerHawk
I can't be the only person who thinks Andrea shouldn't have gotten fired here...I need to watch it again, but Allie and Roxanne were going way over the top in their boardroom criticisms. I'm inclined to take Andrea at her word that she was doing decent sales relative to the rest of the team, and you don't sell souvenir programs with graphics. This was the Gillette task all over again, all about location. Allie made the exact same mistakes Pepe did, except she was able to get a working coven together to deflect all the blame at Andrea. My ranking of the remaining Apprenti:

1. Lee - Best PM we've seen all season on either side after a very good job the previous week.

2. Roxanne - Has generally shown competence and good judgment, though I lost a lot of respect for her for joining tonight's coven.

3. Sean - Only one serious mistake so far (in the cereal task), and I thought he showed pretty good integrity tonight in not joining the Allie/Tammy/Roxanne coven.

4. Tarek - He's just so inconsistent! But when Gold Rush wins, he's usually a key part of the reason.

5. Tammy - A bit under the radar, but she was a decent PM her time around.

6. Charmaine - Pretty competent in her stint as PM, but she's Gold Rush's version of Andrea at this point. Her hatred for Lee's turned her into a complete b****.

7. Allie - The last time she barely won through mostly luck and Gold Rush's incompetence, and tonight was a huge loss. She's not a good manager, she's just loud, and she got out of this loss with aggressive scapegoating.

8. Michael - Can't get allies and hasn't shown competence. Eventually there won't be a bigger screw-up to bail him out.

This year's Apprenti are a misogynist's dream. All remaining women have shown themselves to be nasty backstabbers. Possibly also a misanthrope's dream, since the guys aren't much more likable.
sbwm
Allie may not have handled the task well but she sure can work the girls pre-boardroom. She had control of that situation. Allie seems to have an intersting combo of tight control and "dizzy" moments. The French twist with the spear kept control of the bobble-head.

I was surprised she had so little impact with Sean after all the A/S/R lovefest in the past. Guess what Roxanne said earlier is true - he is working his way through all of the girls.

I liked this task. But I would think all the copy could have been procured through the internet and saved valuable time.
absolutqt
Trump keeps getting so damn close to racist remarks I want to slap him.


Hee! Because Roxanne "speaks so well; she's so well-spoken." <Chris Rock>

Lee gets it one week, Roxanne the next.
Raguel
Donald Jr. = Pugsley

Even Andrea's ass is arrogant. Did you see that walkaway in the suite?
Boriscat
I hate seeing people being ganged up on no matter who they are. Anyway, I kind of liked Andrea.

Sean has gone way up in my estimation after not allowing himself to be steamrolled by the coven tonight. Tammy and Roxanne are sheep. Boring sheep.

Lee rocks. I love him. I can't help myself. Dare I say it? He even looked kind of hot tonight. heh.
fashionista79
Trump keeps getting so damn close to racist remarks I want to slap him.

I'm saying! When will people realize telling a black person that he/she speaks well is not a compliment?

Anyway, I was glad to see Andrea go. She has done little to help her team when she hasn't been PM. Her only contribution has been to undermine the PM by badgering them. It's almost as though she was trying to sabotage the task so that they'd lose (I'm thinking of the cruise ship task and this task in particular) and she could pin the blame on the PM (like she did tonight). Good riddance!
heebiejeebie
Boy does Lee ever suck. I wonder who ties his shoes for him in the morning or picks out what he should wear that day. Talk about a ditherer who looked ready to wet his pants had he actually been forced to really take charge and perform. I can see him making the final two though just so Trump can definitely hire the other person. Lee is Tana without the be-dazzle. And just as deluded. It will be fun to watch his fall.

Andrea? Couldn't stand her. But once again the team whines about not getting along with one person. When is it going to be the "team's" problem Trump. No wonder Trump is so stupid about majority opinion. And no wonder his efforts in those areas have all failed rather badly. He simply does not get that if ten people disagree with one, that doesn't mean the one is automatically wrong. I was glad to see her go though. But one person not getting along did not cost them this task. And dumping Brent was their "we all hate________" card. They played it already. Get a new excuse, Allie, Roxane and Sean on why you three suck. At least for people who don't watch the show. We know why you suck. And for such a great speaker (and I'll bet she also walks well too Trump, you ass), Roxane is incredibly lacking in actual talent. Maybe she if she was "hired" she can do Trump's voiceovers for next season.
carmelized
Did I hallucinate, or did Trump actually say, "Your name please," to yet one more guest on his show? What is wrong with him?

I'm glad I'm not the only one who winced at Trump's comments to Roxanne. She speaks well? What a surprise. Trump just never learns, does he?
druish princess
There was a commercial that aired in the DC area where you could text the person you wanted fired. The picture they had of Mandrea made her look butcher than the Incredible Hulk.
TiffanyNichelle
Another thing that drives me nuts is how Trump just randomly decides someone is a "star". He was just so sure Andrea was a star even though no one else has ever said that and Roxanne in an earlier boardroom said Andrea wasn't that great a leader. His look of shock was hilarious. "But you're a star, Andrea!" How exactly?
makemeameteor
And my hatred of Lee grows exponentionally. The fact that he is 2-0 now (And neither task was won because of him being the PM) is sickening. His firing better be fan-fucking-tastic or I'll be disappointed.

I liked how Donald Trump pretty much let Donald Jr. and Ivanka handle Synergy tonight. Can he adpot that style in every Boardroom and just let the Viceroys roast the team? Sheesh, if Donald Jr. and Ivanka can do that, George and Carolyn might actually get violent!
idledandy
I don't think Trump's remark was racist. Over the past four seasons I've heard him make similar comments to lots of... women. So maybe sexist, but not racist.

Not that I love Andrea or anything, but I think Allie was more responsible for the loss. The big thing was not the thingy itself, but their location. Not being there for the design because you missed the damn boat is not an excuse.

Ivanka wanted Allie gone, too. It was very Carolyn.
RhondaGC
I'm trying to post with one eye closed so I don't see who was fired tonight. Storm and tornado coverage preempted almost the entire show here (welcome to spring in Oklahoma). I'm really annoyed, although I know I shouldn't care this much. I'm trying to find out if our affiliate will be replaying it. I don't suppose anyone else out there is from around here and would have heard already? I know it replays on CNBC on Sundays, but does it repeat any earlier than that? I'm really antsy and don't want to wait until Sunday if I can avoid it.

ETA: KFOR, the local NBC affiliate, has just announced they will reshow the missed episode tonight at 2:05 a.m. local time, just in case anyone else around here missed it. I also discovered that the show repeats on CNBC on Wednesday nights as well as Sundays.
Jim5944
But the Coven Lite convened and Yellow Eye was tossed.


After the way Andrea tried to railroad Roxanne when Roxanne was manager, knowing Roxanne would probably be fired, I don't have any sympathy for her. Andrea even had her little pals like Michael joining in. She had her own coven earlier this season, she just pissed them away.

Get a new excuse, Allie, Roxane and Sean on why you three suck.


I'm not sure if they need any excuses. Synergy has won almost every task, and most of those wins were in spite of Andrea, not because of her. I give Allie, Roxanne, and especially Sean much more credit than Andrea. Andrea and Brent both had zero people skills, they were both toxic, and I think the team is better off without either of them.

Trump's first ex did a good job in raising her kids. Both Trump kids are smart and fair, even if Ivanka needs a wardrobe of someone younger than 60, and Trump Jr. needs a haircut. They remind me of Saffron from Ab Fab.
markedel
Wait wasn't Trump's comment all about Roxanne's courtroom skills? Not that Trump wasn't a crazy ass, since carmelized was dead on about the whole name asking, but I missed the "racism."
Ashery
I don't think Trump's remark was racist. Over the past four seasons I've heard him make similar comments to lots of... women. So maybe sexist, but not racist.


yeah, I'm pretty sure he was impressed with Rebecca's speaking abilities and mentioned them to her, especially when defending Toral.

and she confirmed that this isn't the first time she's stood out for being a good speaker. can't the guy give a compliment without being critiziced for it? sometimes being a good speaker is just being a good speaker
ghettofabman
Oooh, Trump's kids were fierce in the boardroom! He didn't even say a word hardly tonight!
beowulf42
wow, is it just me, or did Trump really look like Daryl Hammond during the golf prize when he was smiling. awesome.
Kaylee529533
Are the Trump kids twins?

What's up with these ep previews? Brent goes way, Way, WAY over the line--nope, didn't see that. This week, the promos implied that an apprentice would do something shocking, practically illegal--where was that?
orangepeel
It's not all coast. Lee saw the task-sales, with clarity and he delivered. Others could do it better, but Lee did do it.


I agree. Lee did a good job on this task. With the brochure design and the bulk sales, he delegated to the right people and recognized good ideas. He picked the right location and was organized and on top of the task enough to get his team there first.

Sean has gone way up in my estimation after not allowing himself to be steamrolled by the coven tonight. Tammy and Roxanne are sheep.


Tammy is a sheep, but that's not why Roxanne took sides against Andrea. Andrea tried to undermine Roxanne when R was PM on the cruise line task and bitched her out for supporting Tammy the week before, to boot. Roxanne didn't turn on Andrea because Allie wanted her to do so. This was just her first chance to get rid of someone who has been completely unsupportive of her.
absolutqt
I'm surprised that Andrea didn't level some of the blame at Tammy for being so negligent with the all-important notebook. And did that really call for both of them to go back? Stupid move.

Oh, and that "drowning man" statue reaching up with the water lapping over his head? Creepy.
thalassatx
Ding dong the witch is dead, the wicked witch is dead!!

I'm happier about this firing than I was about Brent!

I can't stand Allie, but man, I'm glad Andrea's gone. And next week, we get to see Sean hit on Tammy? Please, let her kick him in the balls. Please!!

Lee is a waste of breath. "The ones I fired!" WTF??? Lee, you aren't Donald! Seriously! And shut up!

BTW, I agree that the statue was creepy as hell, and Allie's bloodbath talk scared me. She looked like a Precious Moments doll gone bad!
JeffMD
I agree. Lee did a good job on this task. With the brochure design and the bulk sales, he delegated to the right people and recognized good ideas. He picked the right location and was organized and on top of the task enough to get his team there first.


Delegate? There's only THREE people on his team...and charmaine obviously volunteered for the one she came up with, while Tarek's been doing the creative thingy the whole past half dozen episodes -___-.
It just ain't that hard.

And of course he picked the most obvious location...that's why the other team sailed there too.

THe thing that pretty much gave them the ground was them coming there earlier, but I think that's just Allie's team being roundabout throughout this episode.
MMorningstar
Are the Trump kids twins?

No, Donald Jr was born in 1977 and Ivanka in 1981.
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