He wasn't a preacher, he was some kind of event coordinator/fashion guy. I'm not sure exactly what his title was, but he wasn't a preacher.



Two words: mind control. Jade is a Sith lord, it's the only way to explain why Tyra thinks that she is getting younger, mind control. Remember in Star Wars how the Emperor would wear face concealing hoods, Jade wears hood like things on her head all the time....coincidence? I don't think so! I am now going to refer to Jade as Darth Jade.

;-)



Interesting idea, the posters at TWOP would then recieve the first collective Masters degree ever awarded.



I don't think the show would pay that much money for dental work just to eliminate her next week. Of course, I could be wrong but I think Joanie will be around for a while. However, if she does get eliminated she did recieve very expensive dental work for free, there would be an upside to it.

Would someone please explain to this crotchety editor a usage employed by Mr. Tangerine Man? I understand this sentence: "Jade represents the Association of Third-Person-Referring Lizard People." I do not understand: "Furonda represents!"
Represents what? Who? Did I miss the Great Verb Shift of the 21st century?

Does anyone else think that Jade has an ulterior motive in selecting Furonda to receive the $10K ring? We've seen how she likes to get close to play head games with the other contestants. I totally saw that as being manipulative - especially as we've seen Jade and Nnenna hanging out and heard Furonda say that she and Jade aren't friends.

Also -- as someone quite familiar with Photoshop -- as soon as I saw Jade's close-up, I thought - whoa, look at how much work they did to her forehead. Seriously, you can see the weird pixelization.

I think Jade might have chosen Furonda to mess with her, but Furonda seems too strong to let something like that get to her. She isn't any Gina or Brooke. Furonda will tell Jade off if she tries to get in her face.

However, Jade doesn't get along with that many people. Who else could she have chosen? Leslie or Nnenna I suppose but Nnenna seems to win or get picked for every reward. I wonder why Jade wouldn't choose Leslie.

Jade probably suspected that Leslie was on her way out soon. Why try playing chummy chum with someone that's not going to be around much longer? Furonda's been getting positive feed back from the judges for the last couple of weeks. So, Jade probably suspects that she'll be in the house for a little longer than say Brooke, Sara or Leslie.

It could have also been a 'keep your friends close, your enemies closer' move as well. Deep down under layers and layers of self-delusion, airbrushing, and fake confidence, Jade has to know that Furonda (and most of the girls in this competition) are better at modeling than she will ever be. Furonda has only improved since the first episode and the judges definately see that.

I think Jade has selected Furonda as her 'equal,' or the girl she has to beat/win over to remain in the competition, much like Joanie selected Jade as her girl to beat at the church fashion show. Although Joanie's loads better than Jade and should have won the competition in the first place. Jade's twirling was way over the top.

Ah, the shifting sands of verb usage...i realise that you may be gnashing your teeth rhetorically, but in any case, I believe that in 'representing', Furonda was 'keeping it real'; she was also 'testifying' and perhaps 'recognizing'. The representation in question is so awesome, and so thorough, that it doesn't need an object. She isn't representing her gender, race or class necessarily; she isn't even representing herself in fact (as tricky a semiological trick that would be by the editors) - she is just representing.

It's like after 'Heathers' came out - it was no longer necessary to say 'how very cool' or 'how very awesome' when 'how very' or better yet, 'you have to come to the Remington party, it'll be very' communicates the message as efficiently.

All together now, "Jay, Mr Tangerine Man, play a song for me"

ROFL.
I'll be calling Mr. J "Mr.Tangerine Man" from now on..

LOL, Mr. Jay is no longer SOM, he is now and forever more, "Mr. Tangerine Man".

Oh great, now I can't get that song out of my head.

Hey, Potes....seriously. Want to pass this on to Glark for potential Glarkware?

All together now, "Jay, Mr Tangerine Man, play a song for me"

Woo-hoo, I am so glad that reference was caught! You guys made my day! Not that I think any of you are culturally illiterate, I'm just on the shady side of forty, and suspect that most of you are a fair bit younger.

About Brooke and Nnenna, while Nnenna was very rude, I thought Brooke was pretty bad. I mean, Joanie was laughing at the commercial as well, and I don't think either of them did it in a malicious way. I think it's more like laughing with her really, if only Brooke could see how silly it all was and laugh at herself. If I made a commercial like that, I'd be laughing too.
As for the phone, Brooke didn't go in there calmly to discuss it with her, she went in attacking Nnenna and putting her on the defensive.
Oh, and if Brooke felt about calling Nnenna a bitch, then apologize! I'm not saying that Nnenna deserved it, but if Brooke felt so bad about it, then she should have said something anyway.

Leslie was very common-looking. Also, her ass is not particularly big, it's just that Leslie has this weirdly shaped body, with what seem be two rolls above her hips. More importantly, she just has terrible posture! She walks like she needs a damn cane.

Brooke is hideous. The jaw, the nose, the mouth, the eyes, the whole damn face, people!

I thought Joanie deserved to win the challenge, because to me Jade overdid it with the twirling. All she did was twirl!

I thought Joanie had a really nice walk. Jade, Nnenna and Danielle were also good. I can't believe anyone could like Brooke's walk.

I just rewatched the episode (like the obsessed, scary, loner, lunatic fan that I am) and I noticed that after the group swirl, Joanie was waving her hand around behind her bum as if she had just dropped an F-bomb. Am I the only one who noticed this, or have I been mixing medications again?

Wait! I also seem to vaguely remember Tyra mentioning that Jade is growing younger before her eyes. It must be the pills. Never mind . . .

On the periphery: Payless is one of my clients at work, and the day before the ep aired, three different people from the co. sent out this mass email they had obviously gotten from a much-higher-up, all "WATCH THE TOP MODELS 'CRUMP' IN PAYLESS SHOES!" Then, my favorite part, "Tyra said Payless shoes are cute!" Yeah, I know Tyra has to go to the grocery store herself because she runs her personal shopper to death in constant search of ribs, but who wants to take the bet that she never goes next door to the BOGO sale?

Actually, I do think we should start expecting him to represent the oompa loompas from which he comes, perhaps he could replace Miss J on panel, and break out into song at every elimination.

When Jade got onto the church runway and started twirling like there's no tomorrow, I thought a black plague of evil had swept over the land. It looked like it. I love how Nigel asked the judge who commented he loved her walk,"Did she scare you???" Hehehe .. Nigel's totally one of us!

And this episode's the perfect example of how Jay's a terrible model helper (whatever fancy schmancy job title that's supposed to be). The tips he gave totally conflicted with what was required for a good photo. The girls whom he said had no "energy" in their photoshoot turned out to take the best pics -- Furonda, Brooke, Sara ...

I have to disagree. Those girls did have wonderful pictures, but their pictures were poses, rather than evoking the energy of dancing. I didnt get the feeling from their photos that they were dancing at all, but rather posing. Joanie, Jade and even Leslie had pictures that looked like a moment in time while they were dancing... rather than just a pose you could hold.

Add Nnenna in there too.

I know those were all more posing than dancing which I still don't get with some of it. Krumping is not a dance style that has long elegant movements. Their sharp and jerky. So the panel needs to make up their mind with what they want. They have an art director for the shoot that tells them one thing and then they get to panel and hear:

"Think more about you and less about the krumping. It's not all that the picture is." (Paraphrasing Nigel)

Course I'm still on my stick that it was about the shoes and evoking high energy which didn't always come across in some of the pictures.

It happens rarely doing a Cycle, but I agree with Jay Manuel about Nnenna:

"Look at me. Am I pretty? Am I pretty?" (Paraphrasing Jay)

Brooke is pretty emotional, so expecting her to be calm might be a little too much. However, I think what really set her off is that Nnenna completely dismissed her and picked up the phone in the middle of the conversation about Nnenna being inconsiderate in her use of the phone. Nnenna seems to have a sort of coldly manipulative side to her, and does shitty things, but in such a way that she maintains a degree of innocence and even niceness in some people's eyes.

IMO, Brooke is very immature. A lot of times, it's not what you say; it's how you say it. And, Brooke came in with a nasty, sarcastic attitude. IMO, Nnenna was perfect how she handled the situation. Don't entertain fools. Brooke can dish it out; but, when Nnenna--in her cool, calm and collective attitude--didn't stand attention to Brooke's demands, Brooke couldn't take it. She lost her cool and resorted to name calling--typical "cry baby" syndrome.

Always a great philosophy to have.

Problem is it doesn't explain the Jade factor unless we just count Jade as a plague that won't go away.

This episode made me see hotness in Nigel. Something about his smile and facial expressions, and his hot British accent. If he grew hair and put a pair of glasses on I'd fall over dead.

I lead a sad, sad life.

To whoever responded about the church event planner guy; you may be right about that; I just assumed he was a preacher. He seemed very preacher-esque.

Yes, Potes, my heroine, take Mr. Tangerine Man and run with him. Yet not in an unpleasant orange skanky way. I can't believe that I am the first person to come up with this moniker, but I am honored--and would be the first person to wear the t-shirt at the Jersey shore.
And as to the Irish stereotyping, according to my ethnic background (Scandinavian-Irish), I would be a gorgeous blonde drunk...oh, wait, I am!

Next week. I'm interested in seeing what this "agent" has to say.

Mind you she called Jade a trany. Why Jade would get offended is beyond me because we all know that your name used to be Jaden and *wink wink. nudge nudge* your bitchiness and craziness is probably a result of the high doses of hormones you've started taking recently.

Such a tagent, but just a thought.

However I hope this agent isn't as dumb and rude as Grimely the "personal look" expert from season 3.

But apparently, airbrushing is for supermodels.

I think that picture is awful. Maybe it's because I'm from a small town and don't understand fashion, but that outfit is horrible. Reminiscent of the photo shoot last season where they were all running from the fashion witch. Shouldn't the ugly gold lamme (sp?) bra go underneath the Fredrick's of Hollywood sweater?



No kidding. My 5'3" would love to be that tall and have a rack like that. (sigh)



I tried the turn as well. My turn wasn't nearly as perfect as Tyra's, but I didn't trip over my feet or anything. It's just a matter of crossing one foot over the other. Of course, I was wearing flat shoes and not heels.



Wait a minute; did we learn a season or two ago to be wary of people who come up to you in malls and offer to make you into a model?



Was I the only one who caught Nnenna saying "I'm really gullible" last week? I think she was talking about letting her boyfriend manipulate her, but it could definately apply to Jade. Maybe Nnenna is trying to see good in Jade, and doesn't recognize the wolf in 85 year-old yellow sheep's clothing.




Well, to be fair, that may have been more Kim's doing than Tyra's. Though I did hear something on Tyra's talk show about Kim maybe kissing C5 Sarah?

Random comment:

The problem with all of them is that they don't get out the house.

I've seen part of Cycle 3 and all of Cycles 4 and 5, but since the first episode I don't think they've gone out to eat or to a club or anything.

I'm pretty sure it's been edited out, because on the real tip I'd be ready to cut a bitch if I couldn't get out sometime and not have it connected to the competition.

This is from Leslie's blog.
On Nnenna:
Leslie said that she was indeed on the phone a lot, talking to her boyfriend. Nnenna said that if anybody walked into the room while she was on the phone and asked if they could call someone, she would let them use the phone. She didn't live up to her word, however. Still Leslie said that "[Nnenna] is not an evil person" and she's not a "secret bitch." She said she's not some new evil person taking over Jade's role.


On Brooke:
Brooke is NOT quiet! Leslie said she's very sweet, sincere, and gentle. She also said that Brooke is fiesty

Did they send poor Joanie to Pay Less Dentist? 12 hours??? Dang! It does not take that long unless there are heavy complications. Poor kid was prooly in a lot of pain for their next challenge or shoot. Feels like there is a "a top model has to be able to pose perched on a shingle in a thunderstorm in metal panties with an infected jaw and look stunning and not complain".

What? They always go out to dinner and stuff. They did this season, too.

So, I'm starting to think all the girls left are pretty bland and don't have what it takes to win. Goddamn, this is cycle 5 all over again...

They probably expected her to improve. Shandi and Yoanna got better from where they began with their runway walks. Even Tippy-Tumbles Sarah (C5) managed to keep her balance at panel.

RE: Church Fashion Show

I don't think Jade won simply because she had a "twirlable" cape.

Remember the Sue Wong walking challenge in C5? They started out in these outfits but ended up in these ones.

Maybe the others got a chance to wear flowy outfits, but still flubbed the twirling.

typo

Sorry about that. I just read it and it looks like I could be referring to the entire show. I just meant for this Cycle.

I remember the Gina getting drunk when they went out.

Then there was the one they went out and Janice showed up.

Outside of that we haven't seen them get outside of the house just to be themselves without some guest or Tyra popping up unless I'm mistaken.

hmmmm....straight from one of the hamster's mouth. I wonder who exactly was it who Nnenna did not live up to her word...imo Brokeback Brooke--the "loud and fiesty" [in other words--antagonistic, hostile, belligerent} one. If she dishes it out, she'd better be able to take it. Hey, Brokeback--put that feisty spirit in your pictures, you might go somewhere.

I feel like such an ANTM vet for saying this, but does anyone remember Tyra chastising Robin in Season 1 for walking like she was in a church fashion show? That was all I could think of when they were aswirling, that and the lightning that was inevitably going to strike them all down for parading in the church sanctuary.

Having said that this is the first season where I've liked more than one girl. Mollie sue has been ousted, Nnnnnnnnnennnnnnna's getting the bitch edit, so I'm counting on you Danielle! Throw on some CoverGirl and glam it up at panel!

That was the first thought that came to my mind, especially when Tyra described how she herself looks side to side on the runway. Bitch! :)

That surprised me, too. Come on, Tyra. Nothing screams haute-couture like a church fashion show. The way current trends are going, next cycle, you know she's gonna have a whole episode dedicated to pageantry.

And you know what else kills me? The photoshoots with odd props are becoming more and more ridiculous each passing cycle. [C1: Reebok, which turned out fantastic for most of the girls (especially Elyse and Shannon), C2: Shelli Segal/Laundry (Shandi's was great), C3: Japanese-anime (I hated all of the girls' photos; none of them pulled off the makeup, IMO), C4: Aliens in Manhattan. Need I say more? C5: Fashion Witch. C6: Let's make 'em bald! And bedazzled].

I believe that fans of the show write in suggestions for these photo shoots. It seems that I saw a link for doing just that on the ANTM site when I first started watching (I started with Cycle 4, having read Heather Havrilesky, Salon.com's TV critic, who used to love the show, but now not so much.)

BTW, I didn't see Cycle 3, but were those real tarantulas the girls posed with? I always assumed they were fake, but I have seen some posts here that suggest otherwise. I am such an arachnophobe that I can't even look at those pictures without freaking out!

I think that despite the releases the girls must sign to be on the show, ANTM is heading for a big fall someday. I am thinking of the Jenny Jones Show situation, where a guest murdered another guest after they were on the show together.

In Cycle 4 they played games with Kahlen's grief over her friend's death, and this time they played around with Gina's cockroach phobia. There is also the fact that Jade seems to be a borderline personality, and I could see someone like her wigging out for real under certain kinds of stress.

It seems that there is a rel possibility that one of these girls could snap, especially since one of the ways these reality shows create drama is by piling on bizarre stressors for their contestants.

Many of the girls who land on this show seem to be not only young and appallingly ignorant but also fragile, so that they lack reserves to cushion blows to their psychological stability.

Yes, that was a real tarantula in C3! I got the impression that Gina just didn't like bugs. I can totally relate to that, but I don't consider it a phobia. If Eva could pose with that gigantic spider on her face, I wouldn't cut Gina any slack for not wanting to walk down the runway with the roach on her arm (even if Jade was taunting her).

The girls have to meet with a psychologist before and after the show. I really don't think any of the contestants are in any danger of "snapping" from what happens on the show. I don't really understand what happened surrounding the death of Kahlen's friend and her having to pose in the grave. That was just weird and the only incident on ANTM that seemed out of line. They might wig out due to the pressure, but I highly doubt that anyone on the show is mentally unsound. Also, nothing is stopping them from walking out like Cassandra did.

Right there with you on this. They apparently need to get a continuity editor/fairy for this show (I think TWoP would be the perfect place to find qualified applicants who have incredible memory for detail).

Jade looked like the perfect Disney villainess in that get-up at the church fashion show. She has those same sharply defined features that they are so fond of (see Cruella DeVille and every Wicked Stepmother evah). The only question is who's puppies or kittens is she going to take the pelts of to make a new cape?

Tyra also killed me with her "Beleeeeeave" at panel. I will give her this - when she tells the girls they should have (insert some model related pose reference here) and then she does it herself, she can turn it out. I also was very impressed with her balance spin.


There's definitely something dirty in Jade's underpants.

Okay that runway walk test shows that this show has reached new heights of retardedness. It wasn't so much a hamster test as OH MY GOD LOOK AT AMAZING SWIVELLY TYRA THERE WILL NEVER BE A RUNWAY MODEL TO EQUAL HER ROYAL FLAMBOYANT SWIVEL QUEEN.

I still decided to be a geek and try the swivel thing at home all the same haha. And I'm sure I'm not the only one ;).

Yeah, I tried it, too. For some strange reason only my head spins around, while my feet stay stuck to the ground. I must be dipping into the same holy water that Jade stuck her claws in.

Regarding the Nnenna v. Brooke showdown, I noticed that when Brooke initially confronted her, Nnenna said something like, "Well, I didn't see anyone around, and it [the door] was wide open..."

Could this be one of those times where someone doesn't want to use something until someone else is using it?

I don't really think it's fair for them to get angry with Nnenna if the phone was just sitting there, unused, not thought about.

On the other hand, I agree with those who say that Nnenna should be courteous enough to relinquish the phone once and again.

The only other time I noticed Nnenna being bitchy was when she laughed at Brooke for dropping her purse during Ms. Jay's walking tutorial. I was surprised because the laughter seemed really forced, and no one else found it funny. I think that Nnenna's dislike for Brooke is really starting to bring out her inner bitch, a bitch whose bitchery is directed solely at Brooke.

'Cause I mean, come on, aren't we all a little bitchy on the inside from time to time? Let's keep it real.

And Yzma and Maleficent.

Maybe she's some sort of hybrid Disney villain. To wit: she's about 900 years old (like Yzma), she has horns (like Maleficent), and she probably does skin puppies in her spare time (Cruella).

All I know is, her krumping picture frightens me.

Krumping is a little April fool's hoax Tyra is perpetrating on us.

I mean c'mon. Am I to believe that there a bunch of people that dress up as clowns and feign seizures? Nice try, Ms. Banx.

See "Rize" a whole movie dedicated to those krumpin clowns.

No offense to a fellow Brooklynite, but life's too short.

I have to admit it. I tried that twirly thing and kept hitting the three-quarter point and getting stuck. Then I realized that what has to happen is that the foot crossing in front has to land on the floor behind the stationary foot. If you see what I mean! If you do it that way, you can do a full turn.

But since the hamsters had no warning and only saw it once, they probably looked at Tyresome's arms and head rather than at her feet, so got stuck, couldn't complete the turn etc etc.

IMO that stunt had two aims in mind. (1) To show what the world is missing since The Number One Top Model And Actress In The World Ever retired.

(2) To provide a comic moment as the hamsters all try to emulate #1 above and look like clumsy idiots.

And what I really want to know is why don't they ever let Twiggy get onto the catwalk? She was a great model. All she gets to do is sit at the end and say something British every so often. Twiggy has always been low-key, but she's generally not as quiet as she is on this show.

Ha I tried the swivelly thing with my bf, and then he was like 'no no no you have to cross your legs like this...' Sometimes I wonder about him!

I just now figured out what this reminds me of. Ben Stein in the Clear Eyes commercials.

Because Twiggy asin't so twiggy any more

Yeah, well, last time I looked, she was a hellova lot Twiggier than Tyra.