ghettofabman
Apr 13, 2006 @ 4:18 pm
Potes mentioned something along these lines: I think it's very telling that Nnenna seems to have formed a friendship with Jade.
Thank goodness that
Potes was able to spot an evil presence at work behind the scenes. That whole thing just reeked of Succubus.
I agree with you,
Potes.
antbf
Apr 13, 2006 @ 4:25 pm
If Nnenna in fact has formed a relationship with Jade that would point to evil. However, does she realize that Jade is playing her and encouraging her to stay with the boyfriend in hopes it will distract her (at least that's what I assume she's doing)? Is Nenna delusional and think Jade is a nice person? Or do they recognize each other's evilness? Is Nnenna truly evil?
So many questions!
msrayrudd
Apr 13, 2006 @ 4:37 pm
But by further examination, Nnenna also seems to have formed friendship on some level with both Furonda and Gina. I don't know how close Nnenna is to Furonda, but it must have been close enough for her to choose her to share her prize with her over the rest of the girls. She also seemed to be friends to an extent with Gina before she got booted too.
antbf
Apr 13, 2006 @ 4:53 pm
I wonder why she would put up with Gina and not Brooke? We must really be missing something here.
realityremote
Apr 13, 2006 @ 5:00 pm
Okay - so what about my girl Sarah? I think she's gorgeous, speaks well, and actually - gasp! - looks like a model! She had that difficult tight white dress with a train to manipulate down the runway and did it without falling over. If you're going to have a swirly challenge, give everyone something swirly to wear. Fair's fair. The costuming for this show gets on my nerves - we'll see one girl in a bikini bottom and the next one is in full-length pants for the same task!
I also think that Sarah's photos - with the exception of the Gretel shot - have been gorgeous and she definitely was one of the best with the CoverGirl commercial.
Danielle, Joanie, and Sarah - my choice for final 3. Do you think they'll offer Danielle the patented Lauren Hutton Gap-filler as a consolation prize for not getting cosmetic dentistry like Joanie?
Oh! How great would it be if that was next week's prize for the challenge winner! You can get $25,000 of cosmetic procedures! Lil' Furonda would end up with DD cups!
paganstar
Apr 13, 2006 @ 4:59 pm
In my opinion:
Leslie was even more boring than usual. If they were cutting for that; she should have been gone last week
Brooke: I offically want her gone. No potential, no brains, bratty attitude. She's starting to turn into Jade-lite.
Furonda and Danielle: Meh.
Jade: What was the female character who was a stone bitch in that Disney animated film about an Incan Prince. That's who she reminded me off in this ep with that picture
as far as the church "fashion show" goes...
Although personally I thought she overdid it and twirled way too much in the church show.
If she twirled anymore she would have hovered down that runway.
Joanie: Liked her pic and her personality
Nnenna: 1. Dump the guy already 2. Listen to the judges. Was it me or did she put her own spin on the Tyra turn.
MS. J looked like death warmed over
Mr. Jay was idiotic as usual
The twins were like Ms. J if s/he wore men's clothes more often, gained about 50 pounds, aged 20 years, and cloned himself. Eek!
ghettofabman
Apr 13, 2006 @ 5:01 pm
Okay - so what about my girl Sarah? I think she's gorgeous, speaks well, and actually - gasp! - looks like a model!
I agree, I happen to think she is the most modelesque of the bunch.
hissyfit
Apr 13, 2006 @ 5:08 pm
I was really surprised they didn't give the girls the simple hint that when you are twirling and want to keep it tight and smooth, find a point on the wall to fix your gaze on as you turn. It keeps you from getting dizzy and helps you keep your circle tight.
As much as I want to give Jade the wedgie of all wedgies, it was nice to see her pick Furonda for the second place winner.
ragingindie
Apr 13, 2006 @ 5:13 pm
Here's the thing with Jade: When she pays attention to the challenges and gives the judges what they want, she's on fire because everyone else is too stupid to get it. Throw cockroaches into the mix to freak the girls out, she kisses a bug. Have a lesson about twirling? She spins like a top. This was not about producing a good runway walk (because Joanie has her beat there), this was about pandering to what the show wants, and I think she's taking this idea further to pander to what the show's producers want (i.e. drama). So what if she looked like a whirling dervish? The point was to twirl. Joanie is my girl and she did a good job but she wasn't listening to what they wanted, and that is why Jade won.
Final three: Danielle, Nnenna, Joanie. They wouldn't invest in dental work if someone on the judging panel didn't want to see her go all the way to the final three.
America's Next Top Closet Racist And Platapus (ANTCRAP): Brooke.
MyNextLifetime
Apr 13, 2006 @ 5:18 pm
I was hoping one of the Krumping Clown guys would of taken a loaded sock, whacked one or all of them and said "I don't THINK so, Homey don't play that"
Saw the preview for the Oral Surgery and my first thought was "Oh wow, they are having a new season of The Swan"
DarkCorner
Apr 13, 2006 @ 5:27 pm
I like Sarah but she has no chin and her lips are oversized for her face.
punishinglight
Apr 13, 2006 @ 5:36 pm
I love Sara's lips! They're the main thing I noticed about her. Well, that and her perfect skin.
I really didn't like the photo shoot this week overall. Wonder why Leslie's pic looked just like Naima's Africa dance pic from C4? BECAUSE ITS PRACTICALLY THE SAME SHOOT. I'm sorry, but two photoshoots about girls dancing surrounded by men, whether or not its KRUMPING, or whether or not they're surrounded by clowns or just horny guys...it's still basically the same photoshoot.
I want them to think of some great photoshoots for the next few episodes. Pleaase??
ccrean
Apr 13, 2006 @ 5:44 pm
Potes is so funny. The snaggle tooth gets elimnated next week. I can't wait to read the full recap. Maybe next week they'll do a dentist-themed photoshoot and one of the girls will be extracted.
Esco81
Apr 13, 2006 @ 5:55 pm
Screw Brooke being racist -- what the hell is up with Orange Jay? Have we not moved beyond this race determines rhythm bullshit? I don't know if the white girls or the black girls should be more pissed off.
Mr. Jay totally irked me with that crap, and he KEPT SAYING IT over and over! Enough with the "African Princess" BS, too. Nnenna knows her image. You and Tyra don't have to keep reminding her.
Was nnenna talking about Africa though? have we heard Nnenna going "on and on and on" about Africa?
Nope. Maybe it just seems that way because TYRA and JAY and EVERY OTHER JUDGE talks incessantly about Nnenna being from Africa???? They're obsessed.
She didn't even imply that Nnenna didn't understand phone ettiquette, she implied Nnenna didn't understand phone technology.
The "aren't you a chemist?" comment made it hard for me to sympathize with Brooke, as well Obviously, Nnenna isn't going to respond to you if you insult her, Brooke. Nnenna ignoring her and getting on the phone was the best response. Besides, I didn't think for a MINUTE that Nnenna was laughing at Brooke all that much because of...
I hope she and Nnenna made peace off-camera like Coryn and Lisa did last cycle.
...
that convenient omission. I appreciate the power of creative editing in this cycle.
In other news, Joanie rocks... Leslie always reminded me of the Pussycat Dolls girl ... Yay, Tommy the Clown (Any
Rize fans here?) ... and Jade in that billowing, black get-up looked like the Wicked Queen in Snow White.
antbf
Apr 13, 2006 @ 6:01 pm
They do love the stereotypes, don't they? Jay telling Furonda over and over again that she couldn't let her peeps down, or whatever he said during the krumping. Nnenna's an African Queen, we know.
I think I also heard rumors that Kim last season was a lesbian?
ccrean
Apr 13, 2006 @ 6:22 pm
I wish Jay had said to the clown:
"You go, clownie. Represent the orange haired people."
"Clownie, we know that orange hairs are firey. Burn 'em up, bro."
"My mamma told me that red hair on top means a fire below."
"Shake that carrot butt, clownie."
"You're a hazard cone, babe."
Winking and nudging clownie all the time, cuz you know orange people can just relate to each other the way the rest of us can't.
Brick
Apr 13, 2006 @ 6:46 pm
This episode was totally predictable regarding who was going home. Leslie would have never made down the final runway challenge, which makes me wonder why she was selected in the first place.
I'm really tired of Nnenna, she was boring from the beginning, and now that she is trying to be a bitch, that just irritates and bore me even more. Jade should have been ousted weeks ago, but hey...she's good TV right???
While I agree that Tyra did that "mannequin" turn very well, but if you frequent Church and local black fashion shows, that turn has been around for years; and done quite well by non-professional models.
milkyaqua
Apr 13, 2006 @ 7:17 pm
I remember being in a church fashion when I was a kid and no way would we do it in the sanctuary itself but rather the reception hall below (just an observation).
Yes, ashy is a word and if you're dark skinned like me your Mom was forever reminding you to put some lotion on those ashy knees.
Regarding the phone thing, there is (according to former contestants) a time limit. I don't get how Nnenna can be hogging the phone. If she is then someone from ANTM might want to enforce this but then again where would the drama be in that?
Jade did look like a whirling dervish and she had the same cold look on her face. She did smile at the end which was a nice change. From ballet training all those millenia ago I do remember being told to find a spot on the wall and then do turns up until you ran into the wall or spun into a circle. When done right your head should snap around and give a nice look.
Luckily for the winner they get to be on Elle instead of ElleGirl (do they have to share a cover with Tyra or since it's Elle will they hide them inside instead?).
Leslie's elim was obvious. She needs to check out FHM, Maxim or Stuff because that's what her photos always reminded me of.
Brooke (the twit) and Jade (the devil) need to leave....and soon they both irritate me.
Tyra's turn was nice and I don't have a problem with her size but the necklace and the belt were jingling and all I could think of were sleigh bells. Her signature walk thing didn't make too much sense and when they showed that clip of her being sassy I was thinking this has to be Victoria's Secret 'cause no way you walk for Valentino or Armani and do that.
Miss Jay was a mess period. With the way this show is edited he could have given them a lot more instruction than what we saw the show.
Mr. Jay was just a complete ass (where does he come up with this stuff?).
I already feel Joanie's pain. I had accelerated orthodontia done (not a good time).
watchergirl
Apr 13, 2006 @ 7:19 pm
I seriously think that I hate all of these girls. Actually, I'm positive I hate all of them except for Joanie. [ETA: And Sara, actually, now I think of it. Tall chicks represent!]
And what exactly was the point of that church challenge if they only gave flowing outifts to three of the girls? It was glaringly obvious the producers wanted a Jade win to irritate the other girls, and viewers undoubtedly, all the more. Like Jade deserves 25K.
SERIOUSLY. If they're going to give all the girls a superswirly cape, then the playing field's even and there's no issue. If not, stop acting like Jade cracked the damn Da Vinci Code for doing shit I do in my living room whenever I have to go to a formal event. LORD.
sweet potato
Apr 13, 2006 @ 7:26 pm
I like Sarah but she has no chin
I think you need to look again..Sara definitely has a chin. It's not Brookes chin, but it's not Leslie's either.
Luckily for the winner they get to be on Elle instead of ElleGirl (do they have to share a cover with Tyra or since it's Elle will they hide them inside instead?).
Oh, the ANTM winner is never going to get on the cover of Elle as a prize, instead they get a spread in the magazine.
Elle Girl gave a cover to the winner with Tyra , and that was only last cycle.
pafirefly
Apr 13, 2006 @ 7:54 pm
I agree with you, watchergirl. Joanie and Sara are the two most modelesque of all of the hamsters, but honestly? Even they're kinda meh in my book. The rest? Completely and utterly suck. [Rant] Leslie looks tired and pissed, Nnenna's too masculine (and her smile is scary), Furonda's E.T., Danielle stole Letterman's gap, Jade is a succubus, and Brooke has a penis. Tyra & Co: Please, please, please... next season, get some 18 years old, 5'10, 115 lb. girls who look like models. [/End rant]
missy m
Apr 13, 2006 @ 8:06 pm
I want to know what "real" models you guys are looking at.
I have to remember that most people here probably don't have a clue about the fashion industry. Which if fine! But this is a TV viewer board, not fashion I suppose. A lot of working models (not household names. Though a lot of the big names in the industry right now aren't. The Supermodel era is kinda over). 80 percent of them look like anorexic cracked out tired whores. Not that I think it's a hot look, but that's the look my friends.
And to add to my 2 cents, Leslie actually has a chance as a working model. She looks like a model, is absolutely stunning (yes tired, bags under eyes and all), can take awesome pictures, has a good, long and thin body (I haven't seen a glimpse of this "back fat" since the 1st episode and she's been in skimpy clothing since. I think it's the posture that makes it look that way) but needs to work on her runway (which is easily do-able. w/ training). She's still young enough (and really old trying to get into it now, but whatev). That was a BS elimination.
But it is REALITY TV. So nevermind it made perfect sense. She was "boring". I don't think she was made for reality tv. And if that's the case, good for her. I enjoy watching it because YES it is entertaining. Would I ever do it? Oh hell no!
Though from the extra glimpse we got out of her last night, she didn't seem all that boring. I loved the "I'm just gonna walk, forget what Ms. Jay thinks" comment. It went something like that. Hmm, maybe she's kinda fiesty?
Okay end of rant.
Anthrophile
Apr 13, 2006 @ 8:09 pm
I remember being in a church fashion when I was a kid and no way would we do it in the sanctuary itself but rather the reception hall below (just an observation).
Heh. Ditto here, and HOW much trouble would we have been in trying to parade around half-nekkid in a corset and shorts? Where were the miffed deaconesses, I ask you?
Jaded Cat
Apr 13, 2006 @ 8:24 pm
What else...oh yeah, let's talk about the "guest judge" for a minute. Wasn't there a fashion designer hanging around the Church Fashion Show? Fashion designers work w/ models; why wouldn't HE be the guest judge? Instead we get Tyra's preacher friend. I bet he knows a lot about fashion. I thought his comment about Sara was mean.
I thought he was a special event planner who had worked with Tyra early in her modeling days. My DVR didn't record the show last night so I'll have to wait for the show again but I don't think he was a preacher.
msrayrudd
Apr 13, 2006 @ 8:26 pm
I'm wondering if they didn't give Leslie the boring edit since they knew her walk sucked so bad and they didn't really need to create a reason to get rid of her. I thought Leslie was pretty in photos, but she wasn't going anywhere with that walk.
Then again, I find it hard to believe that Mollie Sue got stuck with the no personality edit, but the way they portrayed Leslie was just as bland if not worse. Now I have no idea what Leslie is like in real life, but I realized when watching her this week I still know nothing about her. I couldn't even give you a clue until what kind of personaity she has.
Plus where was Brooke busting her stripper moves from in the photo shoot? Granted it was better than her freezing up again, but I wasn't expecting it of Brooke.
rollacoaster
Apr 13, 2006 @ 8:45 pm
yes, remiel, ashiness is a real word, and a true affliction of the darker skinnededed, especially in the winter time.
A good moisturizer is a black girl's best friend. See Ebony, Cycle 1.
totallycapable
Apr 13, 2006 @ 8:45 pm
She looks like Jocelyn Wildenstein to me
Jade does resemble that plastic surgery nightmare in a lot of ways.
remiel
Apr 13, 2006 @ 10:14 pm
yes, remiel, ashiness is a real word, and a true affliction of the darker skinnededed, especially in the winter time.
A good moisturizer is a black girl's best friend. See Ebony, Cycle 1
Sweet I didn't make up a word. Heh.
Oh tell me about. It afflicts me all the time in the winter :)
I was just checking Danielle for it to see if I was missing it.
Maybe I've turned into a hamster for a moment?
There were different things that she could've done, but I was thinking like her. The shoot was for payless shoes so I'm going to try and show off the shoe.
So that oh that's the money shot in your face is like sure if this was regular shoot, but this is supposed to be about the shoes.
Sweetxcape
Apr 13, 2006 @ 11:00 pm
Jade: What was the female character who was a stone bitch in that Disney animated film about an Incan Prince. That's who she reminded me off in this ep with that picture
as far as the church "fashion show...
Although personally I thought she overdid it and twirled way too much in the church show.
If she twirled anymore she would have hovered down that runway.
I thought she was going to disappear into a puff of smoke, and return as a bat. Word to whomever said she was Mum-ra from Thundercats. She did work it at the end of the krumping shoot, however. I liked the water touch. I just can't look at her face.
I will never name my child Sara, thanks to ANTM. You are just destined to be gawky and awkward, with that name - and have weird poked out lips ( that would be sexy if you didn't purposefully try to poke out!!)
pyashun
Apr 14, 2006 @ 12:01 am
Okay,
Jade's close-up this week has the same super-creepy "My good Lord in Heaven, what in the
fuck is Tyra thinking?" look as
this old favorite from days gone by.
Waaaaaaaaaoooooooooow.....
remiel
Apr 14, 2006 @ 12:58 am
Two things.
Church Fashion Show -
Jade twirled down the runway. Honestly, all she did was do a step step twirl-twirl-twirl step step and more twirls then walk back. However, I think that's what the designer, because Jade was like what the last model to walk so of course everything she did was going to be lapped up by the designers and the auidence.
Joanie rocked it. She did the walk and twirled.
Leslie and Nnenna both could worked the sunglasses and their walks need work. Well, Leslie's gone, but she still needs to work on her walk.
Danielle could've popped a little more. Good walk, decent twirl, but she's playing it a little safe. She needs to own the runway.
Sara's dress was in the way and like she said she was not comfortable and it totally showed. Her walk needs work.
I don't like Brooke's walk. Period!
Furonda. She needs to go back to the twins.
Second thing.
Is it me or does Nnenna seem to blow of every panel challenge?
Haute
Apr 14, 2006 @ 1:57 am
I don't know if I'm allowed to post this, but it's from YouTube.
Church Fashion ShowThey also have all of the C6 episodes up(I think) as well as the E! THS of ANTM. To find it just search for ANTM
I think Jade looked.........I can't believe I'm saything this, beautiful, on the runway! I think she'd be great for runway and there was something about her face that just commanded my attention and she wasn't really annoying this episode.
Leslie sorry, but it was your time to go. I knew just by all the screen time she was getting that she was getting the axe. She always looks tired or on drugs and needed major help with her walk.
Sara will get the "doesn't seem like she wants to be here" cut, when she was talking about how they found her in a mall that immediately came to my mind, her photo was so-so for me this week.
Danielle has a killer walk and looks great in person, I think she should take it as a compliment when Tyra said that she looks too natural because that means she doesn't need to enhance her beauty with make-up. I think this week's photo was her weakest.
Joanie is growing on me and I said in her topic that she's not a fashion model to me at all. Maybe she'll change my mind in next comming weeks.
The rest I don't really care enough about, it's hard to say who will win at this point because none of these girls seem look like they could be "top models". If I had to pick someone to win I think that girl would be Danielle.
killershrew
Apr 14, 2006 @ 8:11 am
"Shake that carrot butt, clownie."
Bwah! This whole list was a riot, but this was my favorite. I am totally calling Jay Manuel "Carrot Butt" from now on.
jollydolly
Apr 14, 2006 @ 9:04 am
How is it that Jade repeatedly gives Furonda sh**, yet they practice their moves together and share prizes?? Is the Succubus some kind of masterful apology-maker? does she have a tragic secret that Furonda knows that makes her forgive Jade's ass-ness? Apart from the not-so-secret tragedy that is her face? I fear that Jade is Medusa - I still can't look at her directly; yet she has managed to turn herself to stone as well.
Dear Jade was as hilarious as ever in this episode, what with her finding her gendre and all, but not as funny as the previous one where she kept complaining about lack of direction. In the improv task.
Yay, there's the skeevy Nigel we know and cringe at! His tongue was hanging out, sweat pouring off his brow as Joanie and Brooke sashayed towards him...how long before Nigel offers his photographic services so he can get his hands on their magic? But don't give up your day job for comedy, Nige...America's Next Top Trout? oh my god, so funny!! You nailed it man, you totally nailed it!
fashionista79
Apr 14, 2006 @ 9:07 am
I will never name my child Sara, thanks to ANTM. You are just destined to be gawky and awkward, with that name - and have weird poked out lips ( that would be sexy if you didn't purposefully try to poke out!!)
*sniff, sniff* That's my name. Just because you have that name doesn't mean you'll go through those things. I mean, yes, I have full lips. And I went through an awkward phase as a teen. And...oh, wait, what was my point?
Okay - so what about my girl Sarah? I think she's gorgeous, speaks well, and actually - gasp! - looks like a model!
I agree, I happen to think she is the most modelesque of the bunch.
I agree also. She, along with Danielle and Nnenna, has been in my top three since the first episode where we met the "aspiring models."
Crackers
Apr 14, 2006 @ 9:22 am
Regarding Potes' comments, I love Potes (and always will!) and her recaps so with all due respect I have to say maybe I missed something, I didn't think we were being mean to each other...I actually thought it was a really interesting discussion about race and xenophobia we were having and I don't think any of us meant any disrespect to anyone. If it's coming off that way though, maybe Potes can fill us on on some general guidelines...I definitely don't want to get kicked off the board, I'm having too much fun!!!! Let me know what to do!
But, I have to say I am truly impressed with how smart and insightful you guys are...I mean, who would have thought that on a message board about America's Next Top Model of all things the conversations are on a grad school level! Honestly, we should turn this dialogue into a book on reality tv and the representation of women of color. I seriously think that could be a thesis. A collaborative one, written by all of us (I've been in school too long). Also, I have to second what everyone said about Nigerian manners BTW.
I have a very close friend who's Nigerian and it's all about eloquence and understated wit so you barely even know when you've been insulted. It takes a few days to figure it out!!! It's the coolest thing ever, and probably too subtle for reality TV. But I do find it fascinating that Brooke was so hysterical and so insistent on attacking Nnenna and somehow we're supposed to side with her? Very weird...and dare I say, suspicious.
But more importantly, why didn't anyone answer my question about feeling bad for Joanie? Does anyone agree with me that although the snaggle tooth was in fact bad, whatever they were subjecting her to didn't seem worth it. Can that possibly be healthy? Pulling FOUR teeth and making the poor girl stay at the dentist for 12 + hours? I felt so bad for her, she looked so sad. Can't they just airbrush the tooth out or something? I mean, it is not that big a deal. They mutilated her. What are the long term health and dental consequences of having four teeth pulled for cosmetic reasons?
By the way, I really wish those twirling twins would become a permanent fixture on the show and be judges forever. They can count as one judge.
falcon15
Apr 14, 2006 @ 9:38 am
Jade: What was the female character who was a stone bitch in that Disney animated film about an Incan Prince. That's who she reminded me off in this ep with that picture
as far as the church "fashion show...
LMAO!!!! She DOES totally look like Izma (evil villainess,Emperor's New Groove). All I need is for her to start squeaking and say "Is that my VOICE, is that MY voice?" and my viewing of ANTM will be complete.
scruffy73
Apr 14, 2006 @ 10:04 am
I have to say that this was a nice episode. I laughed at the lesson from Ms. Jay because hardly any of these broads took heed to the advice. For example, he told them to open jackets from the bottom so it would be easy to take them off from the top. What did Furonda (?) do? Open it from the top and look crazy. I thought this was one of the best runway lessons. Of course, all lessons from Cycle 3 were better seeing as they did the posture exercises and gradually moved up to dresses and headdresses.
As far as the photo shoot, I was afraid because I couldn’t imagine what it would look like. Outside of the fact that none of the girls were really krumping the “right way” as demonstrated by the real dancers, I thought the pictures were good overall. The only 2 that horrified me were Nnenna’s and Jade’s. Nnenna’s looked like it had more airbrush than a 1990s BBD overall jumpsuit. Cute on them. Not on her. Jade looks scary, even though her body looks good. I can’t tell whether it is her top or bottom teeth that are showing in the picture. That nervouses me (shout to NY on Flavor of Love!). Joanie’s was a cute idea but it was kind of weird looking. Danielle is smoking! I am disappointed in myself for liking Brooke’s picture since I think she’s ugly as hell. She has a nice body though. Furonda’s picture was very nice in the face. It also nervouses me to think the camera is “adding 10 pounds”, like people say, and she’s even skinnier. Actually, other than Furonda, because she’s so skinny, all of them have nice bodies and are nicely toned (read: I am jealous and I need to get in the gym.)
I was a little mad about Tyra’s “Danielle looks too natural coming to panel” because I doubt she told her that and may use it for the “you don’t look like a model” speech she gives at least one chick each season. I may be wrong since Sara is getting set up for that one or the “you don’t want this” too.
With respect to Joanie and her teeth extractions, that nervouses me too. Removing 4 teeth is not trivial but I don't think it requires 12 hours to accomplish. Also, even if she is getting the retainer with teeth (don't know what it's really called), don't they need time to make it, fit it, etc,? I cannot imagine that Tyra would make her walk around gumming her food...well, maybe I can because that might actually be FIERCE. Maybe the waiting for her retainer or whatever is why she stayed in the office for 12 hours.
SmokingCatamite
Apr 14, 2006 @ 10:20 am
I have to beg to differ on the removing of teeth thing. I had four biscupids removed when I was nine (to eliminate snaggleteeth and make room) and I was up and eating in hours. I have four wisdom teeth removed at 28 and was eating chinese takeout in two hours. I would worry more about swelling than anything else. 12 hours at the dentist sounds like a lot more than teeth removal occured. I wonder if they did some other work.
AlexMars
Apr 14, 2006 @ 10:26 am
As someone who had an 'overcrowded mouth', where there wasn't enough space for my teeth, resulting in a look similar (but not as extreme) as Joanie's, I had several teeth pulled at once to correct this. Actually, they ended up not pulling enough teeth, leaving me to contemplate a return to braces, retainers, and more pain today... As for the 12 hours in the dentist, I have no idea what's up with that... Maybe there was some kind of impaction going on that required the use of an oral surgeon as opposed to a regular orthodontist?
Overall though, while I think it's extremely "fierce" of Joanie to go through this, on the other hand I can just see it as setting her up for an elimination next week. Too much camera time is the ANTM kiss of death, unless you're completely evil like Jade, where it pretty much guarantees final four. So far Joanie has had the Elyse Season 1 narrator role, where she pops in and out of the episodes with her little bon mots, but isn't a part of the main story (I think that you could say Mercedes might have has the same job), and which usually means final 3-2. Which makes me happy because she's my pick to win (so far...).
charmena
Apr 14, 2006 @ 10:25 am
Joanie was howling in the confessional though, maybe something went wrong? :-\
BoofishFontaine
Apr 14, 2006 @ 10:39 am
Nnenna does seem to be hogging the phone and indifferent to Jay Leno, excuse me, I mean Brooke but she was not the only one laughing but she seems to be the one to get under Brooke's skin. And, I only notice people talking about Nnenna phone habits to other people and not her. Have I missed something or has anyone, before this week, actually asked Nnenna to use the phone? Has she asked anyone to get off so she can use it?
And the fact that Brooke could only feel bad for calling her a Bitch and not suggesting she "Go Back to Africa" makes her ugly way beyond her facial features. She is 2 drinks away from making a full on racial slur. The fact is, she is jealous and don't have what it takes to win the competition. She is this season's "fugly" token which totally takes the attention off Furonda who is also lacking the cute gene.
At least everyone else is competent at something - Brooke however is the useless and ugly - that is like a bad combo platter at a nasty resturant. I think it should be against the law to have two obvious flaws. You should not be allowed to be fat and mean, short with a bad attitude, or ugly with no sense of humor etc.
Crackers
Apr 14, 2006 @ 10:47 am
Boofish Fontaine-you're so funny! I can't tell you how often I've thought the same thing. Why is it that all the nastiest women I've known are physically the nastiest? I mean, I've known a lot of very nice homely people, but the few women I've known who are just out and out insane bitches to EVERYONE were fugly. What's with that? If you were ugly, wouldn't it make sense to compensate with a nice personality? I mean, my personal belief is that everyone should treat everyone as they'd like to be treated, but it just makes rational sense that if you're ugly you KNOW you can't get by on looks and might as well try cultivating some other quality. Duh.
Now, while I disagree with you about Brooke's looks (I think she's uniquely beautiful), I do think her personality sucks at the current time (maybe she'll grow out of it).
BTW, how do I use quotes effectively like you guys do with the cute box? Please let me know, I'm an idiot.
charmena
Apr 14, 2006 @ 10:52 am
Whoa, did anyone see Joanie's teeth in the preview video? They look FUGGED UP! The dentist did screw up terribly! Crooked, big spaces, egads! o_O Well, there goes Joanie's shot at winning, I think she may leave next week!
Potes
Apr 14, 2006 @ 11:04 am
Regarding Potes' comments, I love Potes (and always will!) and her recaps so with all due respect I have to say maybe I missed something, I didn't think we were being mean to each other...
Banned! No, no, just kidding. Sorry if I was a scary mod yesterday. But to address this, I just wanted to say that the majority of posts in this thread were totally fine, and by and large you all found a way to disagree or present different viewpoints while still being respectful (particularly around the subject of "go back to Africa"). However, some posts were a bit vehement on the Brooke vs. Nnenna issue and became disrespectful to others and also off-topic. Anytime you rudely make a blanket statement about the people who have opinions that differ from yours -- i.e., "It totally amazes me that people are still dumb enough to be fooled by the editing," or "What show were you watching, because it's obvious that..." -- it's a problem. These types of comments incite others to respond in an equally rude way, and that can quickly derail a thread. They also make it appear that your opinion is fact, which it isn't. They also shift the focus of discussion from the episode and characters on the show to other posters on the board (this is what "boards on boards" means). So everyone is free to disagree, challenge each other, and discuss sensitive topics in depth, but keep it nice and realize that everyone else has a valid opinion on the subject, too. When I make a general comment like that in a thread, it's not meant to close down discussion, but rather to let people know that I'm watching, that any potentially inflammatory posts have been handled, and that rather than responding in kind to a poster who might have offended you, you should just move on. I hope this clears things up. If anyone has additional questions, feel free to email me.
Also, using quotes: when writing your post, highlight the text you want to quote and hit the quote bubble icon (to the left of the icon that says "spoiler"). This will give you the proper coding so when you submit your post you'll get the box around the quoted text.
BoofishFontaine
Apr 14, 2006 @ 11:08 am
BTW, how do I use quotes effectively like you guys do with the cute box? Please let me know, I'm an idiot.
Crackers, I just learned to use them too and I have been posting since the Reagan Administration!!
Just highlight the portion you are commenting on, and hit (ctrl C) then when you reply, hit that little cloud box next to spoiler (Quote box) and then (ctrl V) to paste what you copied and then hit the little cloud box again. If you did it right [quote] will appear at the beginning and [\quote] will appear at the end. Like I said, I JUST learned how to do it myself.
I know some people think that Brooke is beautiful but I swear she would be second runner up in a Beauty Contest against Michele from season 4 and Flavor Flav. If I spent 3 hours in hair and make-up and got the best lighting and photographer I would look more like Hallie Berry than Chuck Berry my dayum self!
vstressa
Apr 14, 2006 @ 11:14 am
As a dentist, I can only add that I am horrified that they are going about fixing Joanie's teeth by removing what appeared to be 4 incisors (front teeth). This is ethically highly questionable and has doomed Joanie to forever more requiring very extensive prosthetic work (I might also add the 12 hours in the chair has nothing to do with the time needed for the extractions - probably under half an hour - but rather the time necessary to fabricate her some temporary prosthetic teeth). You are better off keeping your own teeth if they are in good condition - no prosthetic/fake tooth is ever a perfect replica or replacement.
Obviously I don't know the exact details of the state of Joanie's mouth, however the likely ideal treatment would have involved orthodontia (braces) with possibly the extraction of 2 or 4 bicuspids so that the crowded canine would have space to be pushed back into. Unfortunately this is a lengthy procedure timewise and does not have the same dramatic appeal for Tyra and Co. I feel extremely sorry for Joanie that being on this show has resulted in this permanent change - after all hair grows back!
carrier76
Apr 14, 2006 @ 11:16 am
Nnenna’s looked like it had more airbrush than a 1990s BBD overall jumpsuit.
That is awesome. Her teeth reminded me of the Friends episode when Ross bleaches his teeth.
I really don't like her at all. I never have.
Rose142
Apr 14, 2006 @ 11:48 am
I still like Nnenna....her picture wasn't that great, but it was better than some (ahem Brooke).
Sorry Brookies, I just don't like her. She seems childish and her constant "I can't do this" attitude is annoying.
As for poor Joanie - I went through oral surgery about a month ago, and I'm still recovering. I'm just hoping that they do this after a photo shoot, or if they don't then TyTy and co. need to cut her some slack.
Pity Free
Apr 14, 2006 @ 11:50 am
I am so happy reading here that I was not the only one who assumed the Holy Water burned Jade when it touched her skin! I was listening for the sizzle!
I feel so bad for Joanie!!! Before I got braces, I had to get several extractions so that my giant teeth would fit into my small mouth. It was horrible. I still have nightmares...especially about the time the dentist dropped a tooth ON MY TONGUE after he pulled it! There is no way this should have been done during the competition -- they should have waited and if she won, fix her teeth. She is going to be cranky, swollen and bruised. Anyway, it's not like they can't airbrush her teeth during the competition. (Come on -- they are airbrushing the hell out of Jade's cloven hooves and horns.)