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ryan506
Leslie speaks up and she's fired... I say good riddance, because she seemed like such a shrieky, bitchy witch every time she opened her mouth.

Lee has now set himself up for high expectations... we'll see if he can stick around.
MarchingOcelot
The Trump comparisons are both self-aggrandizing and also sickening. What kind of brain malfunction do you have to have where being like Trump is a good thing? But, then, I guess that’s just a developed form of the same malfunction that makes you think working for Trump is a good thing.

Percentage as a measurement for winning is weird and confusing. This is where people get the idea to say “I’m going to give it 826%!”

Maybe it’s because I’m Canadian, but the “America! Fuck Yeah!” sequence did nothing for me. And, apparently, that’s what it’s all about next week.

How is it possible that Tarek has been in two boardrooms and has barely said a thing? Did he develop laryngitis? Or common sense?

Oh God. Did they have to go to the implied Jewish place again? Really? Every episode? Gah.

Also, hey look! It’s George! It’s so good to see him.
absolutqt
7.99 for a 7-Eleven sandwich…are they mad?!

And what exact demographic did Trump think Lee was going to name as the most price conscious? Asshole.
Franz
Two pieces of cold pizza with lettuce in the middle...for $8? I wouldn't pay 2 bucks for that, especially considering it's 7-11. Ew.
Rowr17
The good news is that I now know who Leslie is; the bad news is that she is terrible.
BigKev47
Man... please bear in mind I say this as an early and vocal acolyte of the "Dirty Jack" (that wonderful Jack-in-the Box do-it-yourselfer where you put one of their fried tacos into your Jumbo Jack for true gustatory bliss)...

But the P'Eatzza might just be the grossest thing I've ever heard of. The entire episode just sort of turned my stomach...
breezybee
Eight bucks for a sandwich at 7-11? Now granted this is a 7-11 in New York but who would pay that? I'm going to the deli for an $8 sandwich.
Alejandra
In the beginning...

Was that Trump?

Driving himself?

In Ace and Gary's car?
ghettofabman
I may be in the minority when I say that I didn't think Leslie was all that bad. I do however think she was stupid by not bringing Charmaine in with her as an ally.

Speaking of Charmaine, way to take off the gloves! Whoo! That was cold-blodded!
gymtastic
In Ace and Gary's car?


I know!! It totally looked like it.

Allie cracks me up - "This turkey is absolutely delicious!"
makemeameteor
I always knew Lee bothered me, and now I know why. Any contestant who pulls the "I'm just like Trump, tee hee!" card must die. Now.
dekko
I just wonder if The Donald thought that $7.99 for two slices of cold leftover pizza with some turkey in between 'em was a good deal or not. I love pizza, and I love turkey--hell, I even have a fondness for 7-11--but I couldn't honestly think anything positive about the sandwich if you'd paid me. I guess that's why I'm not in marketing.
methespy
Oh God. Did they have to go to the implied Jewish place again? Really? Every episode? Gah


Gee... Are you referring to boardroom exchange when Lee was saying he knew who the most price conscious customers were and Trump nearly giggled and pointed at Lee's horns and called him a Jewy Jew Jew?

Trump has no class.

Mandrea still enrages me. I want to stab her in the yellow eye shadow eye. Her opening remarks about how much she loves her fabulous life were sickening.
TiffanyNichelle
That sandwich looked horrible. I wouldn't want to eat that crap for free let alone pay 8 bucks and some change. Yuck!

And honestly after Lee had his ass up Lenny's ass any opinion he has on managers really doesn't matter anymore. Because you only count if you're his bestest friend ever!

That said though, he was right about the price, grr. I would have brought it down to 5.99 at least. However he did waste a lot of time on that deal, would that guy really have brought all that crap? I doubt it.

Oh God. Did they have to go to the implied Jewish place again? Really? Every episode? Gah.


I know! I was in shock that Trump almost said that. Much as I hate Lee I loved his little "ah..no!"
thalassatx
Wait, Gymtastic, you forgot, she's a very picky meat eater!!

Lee irks the fuck out of me. Seriously. Even when he's right.

Did anyone else laugh at Tarek?
ghettofabman
I always knew Lee bothered me, and now I know why. Any contestant who pulls the "I'm just like Trump, tee hee!" card must die. Now.


Thaaaank you. Lee really gets under my skin. Gah, could he be any more of a kiss-ass?!?!

I think he is trying to take Bill Rancid's job as kissass of the year!
CheekyCricket
I don't know which boardroom move was dopier, Leslie arguing that Trump should fire Lee because he's an "outsider" within Gold Rush, or Charmaine stopping on the way out to argue that Lee should be fired because she thinks he's a big stinker, or whatever. Notes to Charmaine: if Trump had wanted your opinion, he would have asked; when you're sent out of the boardroom, Just Leave. At some point during the past two episodes, I have gone from wanting Charmaine to be one of the finalists to loathing the sound of her voice. Really, I've started to cringe when she opens her mouth . . .
SideShow Steve
Gosh! Vin Diesel drives race cars now?
sking2
I may be in the minority when I say that I didn't think Leslie was all that bad. I do however think she was stupid by not bringing Charmaine in with her as an ally.


Yeah that was when she lost, because no way does she go up against Lee by herself and win. Lee had everything on his side, he's the one that mentioned the price needed to be lowered, he's the one that set up the display, and that "shady" deal was all well and good for Leslie when she thought it was working. Leslie needed an ally, because then they could have ganged up on Lee, especially since Charmaine seems to have a chip on her shoulder now. In the end I still think Leslie would have been fired.
Insomniac
If Trump had an employee who went off on his own to secure a deal, his ass would be fired. Who leaves a task without telling the project manager?

Granted, Lee would have been a hero if it had worked, but it didn't. And the fact remains that he attempted to do this without any authorization.

Soooo glad the editors included Carolyn's comment about the hats. Andrea was just so sure of them. They didn't hurt things, but I doubt they induced any sales.

It was the price point. Plain and simple. Neither Jew nor Gentile wants to pay that price, for your edification, Mr. Trump.
tone
Oh thank heaven there's no 7-11 here. Cold pizza with lunch meat in the middle? Gross with a capital G.
thuganomics85
I may be in the minority when I say that I didn't think Leslie was all that bad.


Yeah, she really wasn't that bad. I think the only mistake was the pricing. And while Lee did do a bad job, it's doubtful he could have done anything to help. So, Leslie took the fall, while "the politician" lives for another day. I should be more upset, but I could careless about Leslie and her FUTR ass. I'll forget about her by tomorrow, anyway.

I can't believe that the first 2-0 PM this week was Andrea. I was hoping Tammy would step-up (since she's the only person on Synergy with a 0-1 Pm record), but it was not to be. Andrea wasn't as bad as Michael, but she really wasn't that good. Damn.

Aww... poor Michael. Allie/Sean/Roxanne wouldn't play with him, and never would Tammy/Andrea. But moving to Gold Rush probably won't hurt him.

Anyone else think that Charmaine's going to cry when Leslie doesn't come back? Not dissing her (since I like her), but it wouldn't surprise me at all. This is the season of crying.
lessa2010
I'm afraid I missed most of the episode so will have to try and catch it on CNBC but $7.99. Really, you expect people to buy two slices of pizza with alittle lunch meat for $7.99. No wonder you lost.

The 'sandwich' sounds just awful to me anyway so I wouldn't have paid $.99 for it. Bye Leslie, we hardly knew you.
absinthe
And honestly after Lee had his ass up Lenny's ass any opinion he has on managers really doesn't matter anymore. Because you only count if you're his bestest friend ever!

Exactly. This is completely superficial and juvenile, but I really wanted him to be fired tonight simply because I cannot stand looking at his frowny old man mouth anymore.

That said, I am interested to see how (or if) he responds to Charmaine's final bashing of him since it could be seen as retaliation for his zealous defense of Lenny in the previous task.
cynicalbastard
Reardless of the wisdom of hitching his wagon to Lenny in the first ep, everything Lee said was dead on in this one. The price is what killed them and Lee was the only one to say so. His deal was a good idea and would have won the task, and the only reason they lost was because of the price, which was not his fault.

Charmaine shows every clinical characteristic of classic Narcissistic Personality Disorder. What a fucking C-word.
Rowr17
Anyone else think that Charmaine's going to cry when Leslie doesn't come back?


I'm counting on there being a full on Charmaine temper tantrum. It's the only reason I'm watching next week.

They were promo-ing this double episode earlier today as part of the best season yet (or something like that). What show have they been watching?
Tortfezr
I can't believe how the candidates, all of them, on both teams, completely missed the objective. They were all focused on the "price point" trying to maximize revenue, but winning was based on a percent increase in sales (which I read to mean number of units sold). The lower the price, the more you sell, the more you sell, the higher the % increase. And if Lee had sold the 1000 sandwiches, even at $2, thats it. Tasks over.

Also, crappy 7-11 deli meat between two slices of crappy 7-11 pizza. Most. Disgusting. Lunch. Ever.
DBolt
Actually I thought the worst part was that we had to endure Charmaine's rant to Lee about blindly supporting Lenny, then see her do the same thing with Leslie at the end. In the end Lee was 100% right about the price point, and pointed it out numerous times, got the manager to only display the gross sandwich, and almost pulled of a megadeal (and could have if Leslie ahad let him sell the sandwiches for two dollars). He was the ONLY person on Gold Rush that should have been safe this week.
TV Glotzer
Trump lurching out of that car with the Delorean-style door was utterly ridiculous. Like a vampire coming out of his coffin.
Squidgie
Pa-izza?

Pa-ickza!
hobbes404
The task didn't completely come down to pricing. Noone ever brought up the flyer distribution the previous night which brought in customers.

I don't like any of the contestants. They don't show much ingenuity. Answering a trivia question to win a prize is going to get me to buy a sandwich how?

And I'm pretty sure that knowing the 4 food groups is a Mensa litmus test.
druish princess
I cannot fathom how they thought this overall dubious creation would sell for that much. This is the first boardroom in years I thought Trump was dead on. The Leslie/Lee showdown reminded me of Sandy and Jen M.
PowerBum
That said, I am interested to see how (or if) he responds to Charmaine's final bashing of him since it could be seen as retaliation for his zealous defenseof Lenny in the previous task. absinthe

Gah, beat me to it! That's exactly how I saw that move on Charmaine's part. Putting these two episodes back-to-back really drove that home, along with the inherent duality of Lee (what with acting like a total lapdog cronie to Lenny, then becoming his own man and the only one on GR to know what the fuck he was doing on this ep's task).

Trivia questions? Seriously? That shit had to be Tarek's idea.
ryan506
There's no question that Leslie deserved to be fired. I may not be a big fan of Lee, but she was acting incredibly immature in the Boardroom, rolling her eyes at him and making all of those "Gosh, Lee, stop talking, oh my GAWD!" type comments. She was an idiot for not helping Lee with his "big deal," she was a moron for not dropping the price point, she was a dolt for wasting time on silly trivia questions that didn't even get used for anything... goodbye, Leslie. You shan't be missed because you gave us no real reason to miss you.
breezybee: Eight bucks for a sandwich at 7-11? Now granted this is a 7-11 in New York but who would pay that? I'm going to the deli for an $8 sandwich.
$7.99 for two pieces of cold pizza with lettuce and deli meat in the middle is way too much for such a thing, regardless of where you live. Besides, it looked like the pizza had pepperoni stuck to it, which just makes my intestines cringe in horror. I tend to avoid 7-11 like the plague anyway (I'm proud to say that I've never once been in the one that's two blocks from my apartment in the three years I've lived here)--and for that amount of money, I know that I can easily go to any of the pizzerias here in my neighborhood in Brooklyn and get two or three slices of FRESH pizza, a drink and maybe even a little salad to go with it. Yeesh.

Lee's personality really does grate on my nerves a little, but he's got one big strike against him--that he's young--that Trump has used as a reason to fire Apprentice wannabes in the past. I think he has every right to be nervous, and I think he's got the right idea in making an impression on Trump that he does "big things." I'm just worried that his cavalier attitude might come back to bite him in the ass.

Somebody please staple Charmaine's mouth shut. I'm originally from North Carolina and my mother has a more pronounced Southern accent than Dixie Carter, but Charmaine's voice just makes me want to jab my eardrums out with rusty nails. Gah!

No real surprise with the firing. Leslie shot herself in the foot when she brought Lee in. Ho-hum... hope the next episode is better, though I'm not expecting a whole lot. These contestants bore me.
heebiejeebie
I so wanted Gold Rush to win this just to shut up the incredibly disgusting hapry fest that was Allie, Roxane and Andrea. Goodness what a bunch of bitches. And just how stupid do they have to be to argue that they should have lost the task (all because of Michael), but didn't all because of them? Did they not utilize the ideas that Michael not only got from the meeting but also put forth?

And then andrea picking the hat? That crappy hat that looked nothing like a race car driver's hat. It looked like the freebie my local hardware store hands out when I buy paint.

If the percentages were determined by numbers of snadwiches or by the total dollars sold in sandwiches, how hard would it have been to go to the damn register, ask how many were sold so far in numbers and in dollars and see what $2,000.00 in the sale of 1000 sandwiches would have done? Both Lee and Leslie deserved being fired for that piece of idiocy. But the price itself was something Leslie did all herself when it got right down to it by not listening to Lee. And what 7-11 was he in that said their average sandwich price point was $6.99? I think Lee was doing exactly what Leslie accused him of and was trying to lowball just to save his ass and pulled the number out of the air.

And Lee's 6.99 was just as much a joke of a price, so he shouldn't have been so proud of himself. How about $4.99 dumbasses? It's a sandwich! A single disgusting cold pizza sandwich.

And the cooler was nice, but why the hell not have a great travel mug (not just a cheap plastic tumbler -- but some kind of truly re-usuable beverage container) with a free drink?!?!?! Both teams are idiots for that. But the hat was a joke.

But Leslie managed to squeeze by Lee's crapweasel silliness (Lee couldn't sell or persuade George Bush there were WMDS in Iraq he is such a pathetic little rag of a presenter) by making her own product look silly and stupid by ofering the second sandwich for a $1.00. It might have generated some business but it also really underscored how overpriced the first sandwich was. So as much as I wanted both fired, Lee staying another week to weasel gives me someone on Gold Rush to really root for should they lose yet again. Though Charmaine could go to and I would not complain much.

I love my country and do consider it an incredible place to be lucky to live in, but I was almost ill with Sean's cloying little piece of...I'm not sure what it was. Smarmy priase for hte ability to come on a reality show in another country? We get it sean. you love the gig that let's you narrate "The Fabulous Life of... " on VH1. Now take that sneering horsey face of yours back to the UK. Between that thing he calls a smile and Andrea's perma-sneer I keep thinking one of Synergy just shit themselves and won't admit it.

Please, please let next week be a fake out of a fake out! I want a Synergy loss. A big one.
thuganomics85
They were promo-ing this double episode earlier today as part of the best season yet (or something like that). What show have they been watching?


Yeah, I know. Even though it just ended a few months ago, I'm actually missing some of the S4 contestants. I would have loved seeing Randal on this season. He would have lost his mind, having to spend time with these fools.
orangepeel
I didn't understand this task. The winning team increased sales by 900% compared to what? 0? Sell the most, I understand. Increase sales of a product that was being sold yesterday, I understand. But how do you "increase sales" for a product that was just introduced?

Also, as usual, it seemed that only revenue counted. Why not offer the most expensive promotional item in the catalog if it doesn't matter what it cost you? Why not sell 1000 sandwiches to that guy for $2.00 each? Does it matter if it's below cost?
JellyBellys
Oh God, y'all, I couldn't take Synergy winning this task. Could not. Take it. I am so disappointed in Roxanne and Allie! I can't believe they joined the succubus known as Andrea in being so mean to poor Michael. What purpose did that serve? What could that have possibly accomplished, besides being a bunch of Mean Girls to the outcast guy?! Ugh, it was so disgusting. And then the editing made me think that Gold Rush was going to win, especially with Andrea's stupid insistence on the baseball caps and Gold Rush raising sales by 600 plus percent.

But...no. The only Synergy member I like at all anymore is Sean. At least he didn't participate in the "let's pull out Michael's heart and stomp on it" ritual with the rest of them.

Yet, the thing is , as soon as Gold Rush stated their price, I was all, fools! Asshats! Who would buy a sandwhich that expensive?! Who? Plus those things looked repulsive.

I should be ashamed but I can't help it. I'm in love with Tarek. And I don't think it's completely because he is Orlando Bloom's doppleganger.

Andrea needs to go. Now. And, hon? You sure don't seem very happy to me. I don't think anyone would describe you as a bundle of joy.
Moncheechee
I'm pretty sure that is the grossest food item ever conceived.
va32h
P'Eatza, P'Eatza, P'Eatza, P'Eatza, P'Eatza, P'Eatza

Did I say the sponsor's name enough times? Enunciate it properly? "Puh - EAT- zah!"

Yes, I made this same stupid joke in the other episode thread - because I hate the blatant product placement and I hate myself for eating at Arby's last week.

Notes to Charmaine: if Trump had wanted your opinion, he would have asked; when you're sent out of the boardroom


I was really hoping Trump would fire Charmaine right then and there, for being an insufferable know-it-all. He didn't ask because he doesn't care, Charmaine. No one cares what you think about anything. Now go off and cry the eyes out of one of your 10,000 faces.

Leslie looked exhausted and on the verge of tears during the whole episode. Bringing Lee into the boardroom alone was mistake enough, but pointing out that Lee always disagrees with the project manager was even worse. If Lee always disagrees with the PM, and Gold Rush always loses, what does that say about Lee's judgement?

At the start of the task, I was desperately hoping Synergy would lose, because I just wanted Andrea to lose and for everything to be her fault.

Why ask the team to brainstorm, if you've already chosen the product? "They think I'm controlling, but it works for me." - yeah it works for you, but not for anyone else. And since you are not Boss of the Universe, you occasionally have to consider what works for other people. I don't see Trump letting his employees say "I'm just telling you, we're going with X."

And the P'Eatza thing looks absolutely revolting. I wouldn't pay 79 cents for it, much less 7.99.
ryan506
orangepeel: The winning team increased sales by 900% compared to what? 0? Sell the most, I understand. Increase sales of a product that was being sold yesterday, I understand. But how do you "increase sales" for a product that was just introduced?
I was checking the NBC.com site to see if they'd posted the little dossier on the project yet, but it isn't there--but I would assume that it's the percentage over the average sandwich sales (since it is kind of a sandwich) for each team's given 7-11 store.
PowerBum
I can't believe how the candidates, all of them, on both teams, completely missed the objective. They were all focused on the "price point" trying to maximize revenue, but winning was based on a percent increase in sales (which I read to mean number of units sold). The lower the price, the more you sell, the more you sell, the higher the % increase. And if Lee had sold the 1000 sandwiches, even at $2, thats it. Tasks over.

Actually, I think it was percent increase of sales in terms of dollars for the store. The sandwiches debut'ed the day of the event, so there's no way a percent increase in units was possible (400% of zero sandwiches is still zero sandwiches, no?). I think price point played a huge role in this task. While GR was way off on their price point, I could certainly see why the made it so high.
estragon
I am still stunned that they want human beings to eat turkey in between two slices of cold processed pizza....I am so confused. What? Why? Has the world run out of ingredients, that they must do this? How is that not exactly what an indigent person would put together from restaurant dumpster scraps while traveling cross-country one step ahead of the law?


Funny enough, I hated Lee at the beginning of this season but I'm really starting to warm up to him. Sure he's a calculating little politician, but at least he's thinking, which is more than I can say for stupid screechy Churmaaaayne or bloat-faced ignoramus Leslie. I think they're too stupid to live. When Lee suggested the lower price point, I thought it was interesting that both Leslie and Charmaine jumped on him for "going in the opposite direction of the team." Like, they seemed to consider having an opinion to be disloyalty. I'm not into all that Carol Gilligan "In A Different Voice" business, but seriously -- when did consensus take the place of analysis? You're supposed to adjust to market forces and supply and demand, right? IMO they should have listened to Lee. From the beginning.

And 8 fucking dollars for a sandwich? At any number of sandwich/salad shops in New York you can get a gourmet sandwich -- like smoked turkey with brie and sundried-tomato sauce -- for $5.75.

Although I must say I was damn glad not to have to look at Douchebag Bill for two straight hours. Welcome back, George! Never leave again, please! *attaches self to George's leg*
TV Glotzer
Price point. Price point. Price point.

When did that become a synonym for "price"??????
sking2
Leslie looked exhausted and on the verge of tears during the whole episode. Bringing Lee into the boardroom alone was mistake enough, but pointing out that Lee always disagrees with the project manager was even worse. If Lee always disagrees with the PM, and Gold Rush always loses, what does that say about Lee's judgement?


I thought Lee was going to point this very thing out, that the team always losing, and Lee always disagreeing with the team, indicates something positive about Lee, not something negative.
RhondaGC
Well, I had Leslie pegged for final 2. There goes that theory.

Andrea: ‘If it were up to me, I’d be project manager on every single task.” Yeah, thanks, we hadn't figured that out.

Two pieces of pizza with . . . lettuce and turkey in between them? Ewwww.

Sean—People don’t want to pay $4 for a sandwich at 7-11. For that price they can get a fast-food burger and fries. And Leslie . . . ack! $7.99 for a sandwich? For only slightly more I can get something at a sit-down restaurant for lunch--at least where I live, maybe not in NYC, but still! No way that would sell around here for either of those prices, IMO. I mean, obviously the $4 price worked, but still. Ack!

And personally I didn't think replacing all the sandwiches was a good idea. I mean, I know they were trying to get rid of the competition and force people to buy their product, but as a consumer that would not convince me to buy something--it would piss me off! I'd happily turn around and walk out rather than be forced into buying something I don't want.

I didn’t understand why Lee wouldn’t sell the sandwiches for $2. Didn’t the guy want 1,000 sandwiches? That would have been $2,000. Can’t imagine why he turned that down. It’s not like they had to buy the sandwiches and would take the loss themselves—weren’t the sandwiches given by 7-11 for the promotion? So why not take the $2000 and be happy?

Was that George? I haven’t seen him in so long I forgot what he looked like.
Kaylee529533
I know who'd buy that sandwich--Mr. Joey Tribiani.
JellyBellys
Did anyone else laugh at Tarek?


I completely forgot about that! Yes, that was hilarious! I think it really endeared him to me because I have done pretty much the exact same thing in a similar food related job. Just started yelling random, stupid shit because you're frustrated and you know no one is listening to you anyway, so why not amuse yourself?

What was it he said, again? I remember something about "you'll never look at things the same way again" or something like that.........

Wait, I just realized something: Was Tammy part of that horrible talk with Michael? If not, I guess I don't hate her either. Even with those eyebrows.
flexo
Lee didn't sell at $ 2 because he did not have the authority to do so -- only Leslie had that authority.
DBolt
I didn’t understand why Lee wouldn’t sell the sandwiches for $2. Didn’t the guy want 1,000 sandwiches? That would have been $2,000. Can’t imagine why he turned that down. It’s not like they had to buy the sandwiches and would take the loss themselves—weren’t the sandwiches given by 7-11 for the promotion? So why not take the $2000 and be happy?


I was under the impression that Leslie told him that $2.50 was as low as he could go. I agree he should have taken the deal anyway.
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