Rowr17
Apr 3, 2006 @ 10:06 pm
Carolyn to Bryce: Just say 'fire me Mr. Trump'
My love for her has no bounds.
I nominate Bryce for the title "Worst candidate in the boardroom, ever."
gryphon
Apr 3, 2006 @ 10:06 pm
In Russia, Jingle Writes You!
Bryce sounded just like Richie Cunningham.
seasidebreeze
Apr 3, 2006 @ 10:06 pm
Is it wrong that I kinda love Bryce? Because I do.
"It wouldn't kill Trump to listen once in a while." Oh, man.
absolutqt
Apr 3, 2006 @ 10:07 pm
Oh no they di’int! Walking into a meeting almost a half hour late! No apologies, just started blathering about their questionnaire…unbelievable cardinal sin. The Arby’s execs should’ve taken a page from the Star Wars execs from last season and walked out without granting a meeting, just to prove a point. That chastising wasn’t punishment enough.
The jingle composition? Damn, that’s painful to watch. Where’s Wyclef when you need him? I think I hear Jacob screaming from here…
Oh, that Gold Rush jingle was unbelievably corny so Synergy wins…that wasn’t even close.
OK..I fell in love with Bryce right there when he says to Trump sarcastically, “Yeah, that’s what I said” to Trump’s dumb question about firing Lee for a observing a religious holiday.
And Bryce’s parting shot, “It wouldn’t hurt for Trump to listen once and a while.” Way to get the last word in!
va32h
Apr 3, 2006 @ 10:07 pm
Bryce to the camera in his parting shot:
"It wouldn't hurt Trump to listen once in a while."
For that statement alone, Bryce, my love for you knows no bounds.
Magellan
Apr 3, 2006 @ 10:09 pm
I can't claim to have encyclopedic knowledge of the show (even though I've never missed an episode), but it seems to me that Bryce got the worst "loser's edit" I can remember.
And then he either: a) utterly self destructs in an orgy of boardroom incompetence; or else b) a prospective Apprentice finally calls "bullshit" on the whole scenario, and calls out the Donald in the process -- attempt by Burnett to unjump the shark?
Clairwil
Apr 3, 2006 @ 10:07 pm
I can barely type, my traumatization is so complete. Donald Trump...dancing to an Arby's jingle like a horny sixth grader at a school dance. I will never be whole again.
rcpubdef98
Apr 3, 2006 @ 10:09 pm
Bryce cabfession "wouldn't hurt to Trump to listen once in a while," was the best line of the episode for me. I was hoping that he would call Trump on his crap and walk out of there before he had a chance to fire him. It seemed like he was getting close to that moment in his frustration.
Magsi2
Apr 3, 2006 @ 10:08 pm
Bryce started out pretty well. I think he isn't used to others not listening to him. I loved the Trumpy should learn to listen comment! (HEE HEE). He really should have brought Charmaine & Leslie into the BR. They did write the lyrics. Carolyn was right on target. Bryce just didn't have anything to stand on, but his "morals". Too bad he didn't look like Rebecca. he would have been able to stay!
Darkknight
Apr 3, 2006 @ 10:08 pm
Man, it was nice too see someone "step up" (gah) to the boardroom bullying.
Nice job, Bryce.
ackstua
Apr 3, 2006 @ 10:10 pm
Bryce was finally a bit likeable, and then he got fired.
It's kind of confusing - Trump fires PMs for not bringing back certain people, but he also fires PMs for shifting the blame to others. I guess it's a fine line.
WTF was with bringing Lee back to the Boardroom? I'm not a Lee fan, but come on, there was no way that he'd get fired, and even Bryce was saying to Trump not to fire him? HUH?
And the Lenny thing was getting on my nerves. For once, Lenny was portrayed as being totally pleasant and not abrasive, but then he got blamed for apparently not doing anything? Not that I totally disagree with that kind of firing, but in this case, the fact is that there was no cohesion in this group, and that falls on Bryce.
bohemianczarina
Apr 3, 2006 @ 10:08 pm
I second Bryce's nomination. I mean good lord.
Lenny and Lee 4eva!!! eeee! Or something. Seriously I thought the raincoat thing at the beginning of the ep was TOO cute. And then the willingness to go home instead of Lee? My love knows no bounds.
Oh, I almost forgot, I'm typing blindly because my retinas are PERMANENTLY SEARED. Trump. You have no capacity for irony. Never dance again.
Narla
Apr 3, 2006 @ 10:09 pm
Wild that was. I wonder if Bryce didn't just have a sudden ephiphany. "Wait a minute. This guy is an idiot. I hate this guy! I hate this show! I don't want to work here!"
And then he just let loose.
Either that, or he needs to seek some professional help. I hope it's the former.
ghettofabman
Apr 3, 2006 @ 10:09 pm
Charmaine so deserved to be fired. She was over the lyrics AND she caused the team to be late to the meeting! Her days are numbered.
Bryce did horribly in the boardroom. I did love the fact that he got away with sassing The Donald, though. However, he had the perfect opportunity to mention three words that saved one on the season before him.....LOYALTY AND INTEGRITY!
Moncheechee
Apr 3, 2006 @ 10:10 pm
Damn, Charmaine turns on the water works like every 5 seconds.
JackieSmith
Apr 3, 2006 @ 10:09 pm
OK..I fell in love with Bryce right there when he says to Trump sarcastically, “Yeah, that’s what I said” to Trump’s dumb question about firing Lee for a observing a religious holiday.
Hee. Did you see the slight neck roll, lip purse he did when he delivered that line? Wow, just wow.
graybrown bird
Apr 3, 2006 @ 10:10 pm
For a nondescript guy I hadn't given two seconds to before, Bryce is the only candidate I remember who could actually talk OVER Donald Trump. Trump had to resort to "Excuse me! Excuse me! Excuse me!" to try to get a word in edgewise.
TiffanyNichelle
Apr 3, 2006 @ 10:11 pm
Wow Bryce. What. The. Fuck! That was boardroom suicide. Like suicide by cop only uglier.
Was he seriously hoping by taking in Lee, who couldn't be fired and Lenny, who wouldn't be fired and then stressing how great his team was Trump wouldn't fire anyone, including him? Cause wow, crazy!
Dude should have brought in Tarek and Charmaine. Trump would have fired Tarek and Charmaine has been on Trump's list for skating by before. Bryce was a freaking idiot.
The Allie/Sean/Roxanne flirtfest was yucky. Let's not do that again.
Brinswan
Apr 3, 2006 @ 10:10 pm
This was a great episode with many priceless moments. I love seeing that Allie's bizarre fixation on Sean's accent is continuing to escalate.
isiscloud
Apr 3, 2006 @ 10:12 pm
"It wouldn't kill Trump to listen once in a while." Oh, man.
I saw him listening (to he jingles) and I wish he would stop. It's killing
me.
Wow, Bill is so far up Trump's ass...That was easy Mr. Trump, I forgot to think.
Also, there's no way that Lee was going to get fired. I wish they wouldn't keep the farce that is the "week" of task. Yom Kippur is only a one full day. 2-1 if Tarek had been there Bryce would have been safe.
While Sean does have an English accent, there's something kind of slimy to it. Can't put a finger on it. That's an American accent???
It's kind of confusing - Trump fires PMs for not bringing back certain people, but he also fires PMs for shifting the blame to others. I guess it's a fine line.
I miss Martha. At least she fired the right person for the right person--for the most part. Trump was prompting Bryce to bring Lee back in and then when Bryce does, he totally shoves it in his face that he's Not going to fire Lee. Lesson: Listen selectively to Trump since he will always try to BS you, but listen during other boardrooms to listen to find out who is lucky to still be there.
DB Cooper
Apr 3, 2006 @ 10:12 pm
Oh, come on already !! Enough with the religious holidays. If you can't meet your obligations for this, and let's not forget the fact that it *is* an interview, then please stay home. Please.....stay....home.
Look at it this way:
16 weeks, and your team will lose approximately half the tasks, on average. So, of the 8 times you'll be dragged to the boardroom, you get to skate 25% of the time. This virtually guarantees that you will make it to the final 4 or 5. NOT FAIR !!
And congrats to Bryce, my new hero, for having the guts to at least bring this to Trump's attention, and to go down in a blaze of glory. A *real* leader sticks up for his troops. I will suit up and play for his team anytime.
mtlchickie
Apr 3, 2006 @ 10:14 pm
I'm conflicted. Bryce's picks was probably the worst choices ever, and his explanations were even MORE ridiculous. But his confessions was one of the best ever.
As for the jingles...meh. I think the Donald was dancing to the jingle in his head for SNL's "Trump's House of Wings."
Popup
Apr 3, 2006 @ 10:12 pm
I liked Bryce! I thought he was right, when there is no obvious person to fire, bring the people that have contributed the least. I think we all knew he was going to be fired, but I loved it when he confronted Trump.
I thought Trump was going to pop a vein!! Trumpy-poo doesn't like it when he is confronted!!
My favorite line??
It wouldn't kill Trump to listen once in a while."
Squidgie
Apr 3, 2006 @ 10:13 pm
LOVED. Caroylyn's smirk at Trump when he said life sucks. She was all, "Oh really, Trumpie. Life sucks, huh?" What the hell would he know about it?
cynicalbastard
Apr 3, 2006 @ 10:14 pm
Bryce is a moron. Bringing back Lee was one of the dumbest things anyone's ever done on this show. He had absoluteley NO coherent defense for it and then he actually had the nerve to whine about Trump "not listening?" Bryce said nothing worth listening to.
I liked Lenny's honesty about his own limitations. "I try to write in Russian and translate to English....complete crap."
estragon
Apr 3, 2006 @ 10:13 pm
So gay people like spaghetti, straight people like steak...who likes roast beef? Bisexuals? I lost my Trump Menu of Facile and Stupid Food comparisons.
When the winners were all doing their creepy, lurid truffle-flirting and were so happy and pretending to be people of high style (hosted by Sean, who talks like Robin Leach) I thought, "how nice....can't it be like this forever?"
Then that crap boardroom happened.
On the one hand, I admired Bryce for having brass ones and being right about the horror that is Trump. On the other hand, I didn't appreciate his open sarcasm to Trump, his tragic mishandling of nearly every social situation involving an executive, and the all-too-coincidental (IMO) fact of bringing both Jews on his team back into the boardroom.
Also, the "I wasn't brought up that way" defense that he beat to death smells like a raft of self-righteous bullshit to me, designed more to snow his teammates and convince himself rather than provide any real rationale for his actions. What, exactly, Bryce, is it htat you werent' brought up to do? Compete? JMO, but I read that "I wasn't brought up that way" shit as so schoolyard. If you weren't brought up that way, Bryce, then IMO you don't have to keep telling everybody. Oy.
Sean's mouth is simply unacceptable.
lessa2010
Apr 3, 2006 @ 10:14 pm
Tarek, way to make yourself look like an even bigger ass. I'm honored that you feel I am such a threat that you take me into the board room every time we lose.
Bryce, way to get yourself fired by bringing Lee in. No way, no how was Trump going to fire Lee for observing the holiday. Lenny did contribute. His ideas may have been stupid and not worth addressing on this task, but he didn't just sit down and say, you do it. Charmaine should have asked for a later time. A half hour to get to the meeting, was stupid. You were late, as such the executives punished you by not giving you the same talk they gave Synergy. That is why you lost.
I'm happy with Bryce leaving though I wish Tarek was gone.
As a side note, I didn't realize that Wendy's, Hardee's, McDonald's etc were using fake chicken in their sandwiches. Still don't get the 'we're the only ones with natural chicken'.
Previews for next week. The cold Russain has a heart. Awwwww!
absolutqt
Apr 3, 2006 @ 10:14 pm
Hee. Did you see the slight neck roll, lip purse he did when he delivered that line? Wow, just wow.
Yes! The delivery was a perfect 10.0 He refused to let Trump (or the viceroys) bully him. Good for him..they had their minds made up anyway so he might as well leave with his dignity intact.
Newhope
Apr 3, 2006 @ 10:15 pm
So is this like the 1st taping of the series during these high holy days? I don't ever recall any of the past cast missing tasks because of the observance. Or did they just edit those out?
Of course I guess I am making a large assumption that there have always been Jews on the show that obvserve the days.
You know this is probably the most generic and boring cast to date. Not even an attractively dumb cast.
seasidebreeze
Apr 3, 2006 @ 10:15 pm
I saw him listening (to he jingles) and I wish he would stop. It's killing me.
I couldn't decide if he was goofing off or genuinely "dancing." Then I realized this is Trump. I had to laugh to keep from crying.
Popup
Apr 3, 2006 @ 10:16 pm
I can barely type, my traumatization is so complete. Donald Trump...dancing to an Arby's jingle like a horny sixth grader at a school dance. I will never be whole again.
Bwahhhhh..... it really was traumatic!! What was he thinking???
Taiichi
Apr 3, 2006 @ 10:16 pm
"It wouldn't kill Trump to listen once in a while." -- That - was awesome! While Bryce pretty much dug his own grave in the boardroom, that last line in the Cabride was priceless.
So, we now know that Trump likes to get his groove on to Jingles; which, as disconcerting as that seems, on reflection, it also seems all too appropriate with Trump. Which just makes it that much more disturbing.
Sean was just way too smarmy tonite at dinner. He reminds me of that guy from that Axe "Gamekiller" ad: the "British Accent Guy".
Still like Charmaine, although her emotional outbursts are starting to wear thin on me.
heebiejeebie
Apr 3, 2006 @ 10:15 pm
I think this season has descended to such lows that they might as well air it after that Carson Daly show in the middle of the night.
Whatever happened to tasks that actually required a real business paradigm with an actual winner and loser? By looking at things like profits? At this rate America's Next top Model will grace the cover of Vogue's big fall issue before this season attains even the slightest bit of business relevance.
And next week Trump sinks to a all time low -- he imitates Ty-fucking-Pennington.
Brice is an idiot. Problem is he wasn't the only one in the boardroom. Or the biggest. Maybe poor Brice thought that there might be a real business task in the show's future and figured Lee was the last person he wanted on the team at that point. I had to laugh at Trump trying to tread water with his "do you think I'm going to fire Lee because he is Jewish" then "I might fire him...I might not".
aunthelen
Apr 3, 2006 @ 10:15 pm
What's with all the music tasks all of a sudden?
I have been working in various professional situations for 25 years, and never yet has anyone asked me to sit down and write a song!
Ananayel
Apr 3, 2006 @ 10:15 pm
I would have brought Leslie and Charmaine to the boardroom. They both worked on the lyrics, Charmaine set up an appointment for a time that meant they should be running out the door Right Then, and said "that gives us about 10 or 15 minutes before we have to leave." And Leslie, who was apparently in charge of asking questions of the executives they had just pissed off, somehow managed to not ask the single most important question of all. I think Tarek did the best he could in fitting the lyrics that they had to some sort of musical style.
But Bryce was a total goner as soon as he picked Lee anyway, and I think it would have been the same no matter who else he might have chosen.
va32h
Apr 3, 2006 @ 10:16 pm
Was he seriously hoping by taking in Lee, who couldn't be fired and Lenny, who wouldn't be fired and then stressing how great his team was Trump wouldn't fire anyone, including him? Cause wow, crazy!
I think Bryce honestly didn't want Charmaine or Tarek to be fired when neither of them did anything "wrong". They weren't bad, the other team was just better. Trump simply cannot grasp that a team can do well, and yet still be beaten by a team that does even better.
Picking Lee and Lenny pretty much guaranteed that Bryce would get fired - something I think that Bryce was fully aware of and chose to do.
MollyZee
Apr 3, 2006 @ 10:16 pm
WTF was Bryce thinking, bringing Lee to the BR? Even if Bryce felt strongly that he, as PM, had legitimate grounds to fire Lee, there is no way TD would risk that kind of political snafu on national television. Bryce deserved to be fired by virtue of his sappy boo-hooing over "how [he] was raised" and for sheer stupidity.
Their loss was due in large part to the fact that the Arby's execs hated them right off the bat for being late to the meeting (did NO ONE watch last season?! Don't we all remember the old "You can't get ANYWHERE in Manhattan in 15 minutes!!" business?! Good grief!) and then for barking orders at them as soon as they finally managed to drag their lazy, unapologetic asses into that conference room. "We wrote down some questions. Answer them." Ugh. Talk about poor form. Charmaine skates by yet again and I have no idea why.
I actually cringed at the way Bryce was talking to Trumpy in the BR. Cutting him off, getting sarcastic and snippy... YIKES. That's where Carolyn's "why don't you just say 'fire me'" suggestion stemmed from, I think. It was more his absurd attitude and miserable boardroom demeanor that did him in.
Trump doing the...um... hula???.... in the back of the showroom was CLASSIC. Pure comedy gold. That was a riot, I kinda liked seeing him be a dork (sue me).
And off topic but in the scheme of crap-ass jingles? Whoever finds me that assy Sprint night calling "SEVEN PEE-EMMMMMMMMMMMMM" guy will be richly, richly rewarded. I want him dead.
FYI, I think this is episode 5-6, not 5-5...
seawind
Apr 3, 2006 @ 10:18 pm
Wow. WOW. Bryce is my new hero.
I agree that he should have brought in Charmaine and Tarek, but I admire how he stood up for what he believed was right, even if it was going to get him fired (and he knew that going in). He pulled out a set of balls I didn't know he had. It's about time someone stood up to Trump's crap in the boardroom!! He was truly not afraid of Trump and it showed. I actually thought Trump might be smart enough to reward him for the way he was pretty much owning the loss, but of course, this season is all a game about picking who Trump thinks should be coming back to the BR, and if you don't guess correctly, you're fired. Gah.
And never thought I'd say this, but Carolyn royally pissed me off tonight with her faces toward Bryce. The guy has some integrity - that may not get you far in Trump's world, but it shouldn't earn you scorn. Bring back Ivanka.
Bryce, you can hold your head up high, leaving the way you did. Kudos.
DashRashi
Apr 3, 2006 @ 10:18 pm
Bryce sure did get fantastically, awesomely, AMAZINGLY snippy with Trump there towards the end. Can we get some more of that? If you know you're going down, do the viewing audience at home a favor, and basically call Trump a moron. Please? It makes my stomach hurt, in a good way.
Carolyn's been sort of overly bitchy lately. I think she just wants to get back the golf course. The less she sees of her boss, the happier she is, I'll bet.
I must say, I also liked Lee futilely trying to insist that, hey now, maybe life doesn't suck? He's awfully optimistic for someone who went to Cornell.
jodypow
Apr 3, 2006 @ 10:18 pm
I think maybe Bryce thought he absolutely had to bring in two people, that he could'nt bring just one. He knew he didn't want to bring the three that did the work (Tarek, Charmaine, and Leslie); therefore the only two left were Lenny and Lee.
I really think Bryce was about to say "You can't fire me, I quit!" Dude has a bit of a temper problem. But I loved his sarcasm. And, yes, Trump should listen once in a while.
markedel
Apr 3, 2006 @ 10:18 pm
I like how it took me a good 40 minutes to recognize Michael. Damn he's low key.
Bryce seems like a nice guy, but he should have fallen on his sword, well either that or not bring in Lee. That was stupidity. And while I like Lenny more and more (his website is the shit) he deserved to be fired this task, or at least others have been fired for less. Still if Bryce wanted to take responsibility, why didn't he take responsibility?
CheekyCricket
Apr 3, 2006 @ 10:19 pm
I must not know what a jingle is either, because what Gold Rush produced sounded like an actual "jingle" to me, whereas what Synergy produced sounded like a lite-pop-rock song, kind of like the trend of turning classic rock songs into background music for ads.
Bryce blew it in more ways than I can count, but I think his taxicab confessional was about my favorite ever . . . Imagine having the balls to declare that Trump should listen to someone, sometime. Yep, many of us have thought that too, and of course it's pointless, just like Bryce throwing himself on the boardroom sword, but so few of those who get the opportunity to say it on-camera actually seize the opportunity.
Allie is bonkeroos for Sean. Too bad, Allie. When Roxanne said that "Sean luvs women, and we know he's jumping around at night and maybe not getting a whole lotta sleep, we don't care at all, not at all, blah, blah, I don't believe that "we" includes Allie.
futuroscarwinna
Apr 3, 2006 @ 10:19 pm
Regarding the Yom Kippur bye, I will say two things:
1. Sandy Koufax wouldn't pitch game one of the World Series in 1965 because it was on Yom Kippur.
2. I maintain that the religion angle is just another gimmick from the producers. This hasn't been the first time that there have been Jewish contestants on the show. Yom Kippur is one day. ONE DAY. They could have made the task any other day. A task would never fall on Christmas. Gimmick, gimmick, gimmick.
quaismart
Apr 3, 2006 @ 10:18 pm
Even though Bryce was fired, I kind of think he got the better of Trump. And it wouldn't kill him to listen every now and then
cynicalbastard
Apr 3, 2006 @ 10:20 pm
That "standing up for the team" line was a complete load as well. For one thing, they're not his team mates, they're his opponents. For another thing, Trump hates when losing PMs try to protect their buddies rather than puttig the blame where it lies. Trying to blame Lenny was bullshit and "standing up" for his buddies is not an excuse.
He also gave the American Idol "they're going to be sorry" speech while he was in the cab. He's a loser in every way.
WinkyDink
Apr 3, 2006 @ 10:19 pm
Bryce knew Trump would have fired either Tarek or Charmaine. That is precisely why he refused to bring them back.
In fact, Bryce wanted to be the one fired; as he said in response to Trump's questioning Bryce's choices: "You said to bring back two." As in, So, here's two. HAHA! Now who ya gonna fire, Trump? Lee? Nope! Lenny? Dare ya! That leaves ME!!
Carolyn wasn't perceptive; she finally just caught on to the obvious. Because if Bryce seriously thought Lenny would be fired, he, Bryce, would never have spoken to Trump in the manner he did.
ETA: These shows are FILMED, correct? As in, not live every Monday? So why, during the filming, couldn't TPTB have shifted the tasks to different days when they conflicted with a contestant's major religious obligations? Because I REALLY don't like Lee's free rides.
LaraAriadne
Apr 3, 2006 @ 10:20 pm
<quietvoice>Bryce scares me. Like, he's got his dead grandma stored in his freezer type of scary.</quietvoice> I half expected him during the boardroom to leap across the table, grab Trump by the hair and pound the guy's head into the table screaming, "I COULDN'T LET DOWN MY TEAM YOU SONNOVABITCH!"
Otherwise though, a surprisingly enjoyable episode. I like the episodes where there's actual competence and teamwork demonstrated.
Kaylee529533
Apr 3, 2006 @ 10:20 pm
What was Charmaine thinking scheduling a 10:15 meeting at 9:50? What was Bryce thinking not knowing he was late? He was so horrible at the start of the meeting, even if he'd have been on time, he would have bombed with the execs. He actually came off seeming younger than Lee or good old Andy. I've like Charmaine so far, and I could forgive her one mistake--but wrong jingle plus rotten meeting time should have gotten her the can, too.
It would be illegal to fire Lee for observing a religious holiday. I have no idea what Bryce had in mind--did he fall on his sword, ready to go home, or did he really think that Trump would fire Lenny?
KittyFish
Apr 3, 2006 @ 10:21 pm
DB CooperAnd congrats to Bryce, my new hero, for having the guts to at least bring this to Trump's attention, and to go down in a blaze of glory. A *real* leader sticks up for his troops. I will suit up and play for his team anytime.
So much WORD. I didn't know Bryce from Adam before this episode, but he took responsibility for trying to bring the team together, and had them working together better than any PM before him. His little pep talk before the boardroom was awesome - the ones sent back to the suite were actually
crying because they felt so close to the team and knew that one of the ones left behind would be going. Bryce stuck to his principles, stood up for his team and dared to argue and be sarcastic with the Donald. "Yeah, that's exactly what I said." *eyeroll* BWAH! Love him! "I am not afraid of Bill, I am not afraid of Mr. Trump, I am not afraid of Carolyn," he says, and damned if he wasn't. I would be happy to work for Bryce any day - the guy has class.
markedel
Apr 3, 2006 @ 10:21 pm
Word to the gimmick. And aside from anything, the only city in the world more affected by Yom Kippur in terms of business is Jerusalem. If there's any day of the year where things just don't get done in NYC I would hazard it to be Yom Kippur. What's kind of curious is how Lee pulled out the evening, since the fast and services start at night.