While Dan was a really awful Project Manager, Gold Rush was totally robbed on this one. I can't believe that Synergy's commercial won. Absolutely horrendous. Not only did Synergy's commercial smack of "low budget industrial production video," but the voiceover was badly recorded and sounded totally awful.

Plus, Trump's assessment of the idea was completely wrong. Cruise lines and vacation providers do all sorts of cutesy things like this all the time--at least, the more amusing and more memorable commercials do. I don't understand why these people feel like a voiceover is BETTER than captions. Clearly not a single person in the room had any kind of a production or media background. Seriously.

Oh, and just as a side note, broadcast journalism is almost as completely unrelated to advertising as, say, quantum physics is, aside from MAYBE knowing how to operate a camera and/or VCR. Lordy.

I always hate the stupid "take home x-amount-of-dollars-worth of y-type-of-jewelry" rewards. Really, aside from maybe cufflinks or something for their wives/girlfriends, what are the men going to take away from that? Plus... a "secret vault?" That's just silly. I was slightly amused that all of the guards' faces were blacked out, yet the diamond executives' weren't. The whole thing struck me as something like a science class dissection. And god, what a hideous tiara. Looked like something that Ursula from The Little Mermaid would've worn to "look pretty."

Tarek was totally cute with his just-out-of-the-shower, unkempt hair and adorable little sleeveless shirt, even if he's a total moron. I just can't help but thinking he's Orlando Bloom every time he pops up on screen. Nice visual aid in imagining what it'd be like to wake up next to him. Er... never mind.

God... Boardroom shouting match. Makes my head hurt. Good thing I started drinking midway through this episode. I don't understand what Dan meant by "Lee checked out on me." That doesn't MEAN anything. Stupid, piss-poor excuse.

And what the hell did Trump mean when he said, "When I go on a ship, I don't want to see someone in trouble screaming from the water"? Is the captain of the ship supposed to traverse the entire route of the cruise and screen for castaways prior to the voyage? Trump's utter retardation really baffles me sometimes.

Lenny should've been fired. Dan was the second-best choice, though. Otherwise... blah episode.

Both commercials kinda sucked.

I can't believe I'm saying this, after heaping much Mensa-abuse on his shoulders, but I think Tarek gets a bum rap from Trump most of the time.

Dan "I'm gonna eat you up!"... was a bit scary.

Edit: and yeah, so was Tarek's ungelled hair!!! Whoa.

I agree with Dan that you can't really blame Lenny for his idea when Gold Rush decided to go with his idea. It's not Lenny's fault that no one else on his team had a better idea. I wish Tarek would've been fired instead of Dan.

The Ford commercial that ran midway through this episode had text with no voiceovers...

Eh neither were good. The firing at least, was the right call, though I think the problem with Lenny's idea was crappy execution by Dan, and Tarek's stupidity didn't help. I don't get why Donald likes to toy with Tarek so much. He must have a love/hate thing with him.

Also Tarek's hair sans gel is a bit WTF.

I actually felt both commercials were good, but Synergy using the voice-over was the difference.

From what I saw, Dan probably deserved to go, but you also could have made a case for no one being "fired" this week.

Actually, I thought Synergy's was better, though it was a close call. I was truly happy for Roxanne, especially to show up Andrea. Though unintentional on Roxanne's part, it was almost an "in-your-face Andrea!" effect! (Teehee!)

Why is Tarek still here? His mistakes have been completely responsible for three whole losses in my estimation. Sure, he's hot, but c'mon, Trump!

The ridiculousness that is season 5 continues...

Synergy's commercial really was better. It conveyed the fun, freewheeling aspect that NCL wanted, whereas Gold Rush's commercial was confusing. The idea of the castaway was terrible. Now, had they used a group of refugees from a "boring" cruisline, that might have worked better....

I really thought Tarek was getting the boot tonight, and kind of think he deserved it over Dan. I don't see where they thought Lenny should have been in the boardroom. While the idea was Lenny's it's ultimately the PM's choice to run with it or not. Lenny was the first and only one to step up and say that VOs were needed, not cluttery text. Did Tarek learn NOTHING from last week's overcluttered Synergy debacle? For a Mensa member, he's none too bright...He may bring the pretty, but he kinda sucks...

Can someone explained why NCL stole the castaway's watch in the Gold Rush commercial? Maybe I missed why that happened, but it really stood out to me of why they took his watch. No one ever brought it up. Am I crazy?

I could tell from last week's previews -- and from the one on Yahoo! -- that Roxanne was going to be having some problems with Synergy this week, and what do you know? She did. But I saw them losing and her getting fired. So you can imagine my utter joy when I saw her win! I think she did a good job, starting out disorganized but getting it under control relatively fast.

As for the boardroom . . . Well, I think either Dan or Tarek could've been reasonably fired. But for me, it was a win-win situation all the way. Either one would've made me happy. Both would've been better, considering Tarek's three boardroom appearances -- once for each loss. But to tell the truth, when the hammer came down on Dan, I was kinda hoping Tarek would be going, too. I don't know what made Trump keep Tarek after firing Dan, but the guy's obviously got something going for him. But he's not going to win.

I hope Lenny or Leslie is Project Manager next week. But it'll probably be Bryce. They're the only three left on the team who can be Project Manager, so it's gotta be one of them.


Synergy's was definitely better. No questions asked. Roxanne really did one-up Andrea, and for that, I'm glad. All she needed to do was demand a little bit of respect, and she got it. I think she may go far, after all.

As for Synergy post-Brent, I think they'll all do just fine.

Hee. I think Trumpy has a deep-seated boating fear. Like, the execs made it really clear that they thought the idea was creative/ gripping, just confusingly executed, and that the VO was a deciding factor for Synergy. And Trump was just like, bring Lenny in! Boating accidents are scary! Tell him he won't get away with this! So now I'm liking Lenny even more, but my admiration for Andrea has completely turned to 10 kinds of hate. And Tarek, you are not pretty enough for the creepiness you refuse to abate.

ETA: Also, bathroom stall? Was that really the only footage they had of people complaining about being under-utilized? Completely ridiculous.

So tonight I learned:

Andrea's slow, stilted way of talking isn't just a result of arrogance, it's also caused by some sort of mental disability. "Have a little more fun." Really?

Now we see how Trump is getting around the whole Yom Kippur problem -- fire Dan (and Lee in the near future perhaps?) before the issue of them taking another task off surfaces!

Sorry but I feel that just because someone has an idea doesn't mean they should be fired for it, if everybody else on the team agreed with it and supported it. Lenny also had another idea, that the team ultimately didn't listen to, that perhaps ended up costing them the task.

Lenny knows that it cost $18 for Mensa.

Hair Gel is extra.

Lenny shouldn't have been at fault. The idea wasn't the concept, but the execution.

I think it would have been unfair to fire Lenny for the castaway idea, since it's an idea that could have worked in more creative hands. On the other hand, firing Tarek is always a good idea, because not only does he have bad ideas that are always going to be bad (like a lot of busy text on a screen), he is arrogant in his execution of his bad ideas.

But I will say I enjoyed this episode the most of any so far this season, because there was real suspense, the task was creative (at least in theory), and the dynamics seemed based on real, rather than contrived, issues.

Good firing, horrible reasons.

Dan was an awful leader, for the reason that he under-delegated and left too many people idle. Lenny was not to blame. I cannot stand this horrible psychology: Why is the person who comes up with the idea the one who gets blamed for the loss? Unless its a PM making an executive decision where he makes up an awful idea and runs with it, the horrible idea will not be picked unless everyone else gets behind it. I bet that everyone had some idea run through there mind, and in some cases their mouth, that sucked. Just because Lenny's was the least bad doesn't mean he's the reason they lost.

Oh, and lay off on MENSA. Genius does not equal creative. Trump, why should all of MENSA be embarrased since one of their members is not so impressive. It was hard to recognize Tarek, though, without gel in his hair.

Lenny, you're safe, but not for long!

I thought both commercials sucked, but that may have had a lot to due with the lack of time. Probably not, but I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.

I have learned that you should never, ever, under any circumstances come up with an idea. No one is penalized for not having an idea or supporting a bad one. But hell and damnation awaits the one who suggests an idea.

Hah ha Andrea. You did your best and still Roxanne won. Hehehehe. I can't believe she made faces during Roxanne's presentation and looked like she was going to cry when they won. What the hell is her fucking problem?

I loved when Roxanne stood up for herself and told off Andrea and Tammy for undermining her every step of the way.

Trump needs to STFU. All that crap about bringing in Lenny? There was no way in hell he was going to fire Lenny. Dan knew that. Everyone knows Trump loves Lenny. I'm just shocked he didn't fire Tarek since he's out to get him and his MENSA brain too.



Trump has it out for him in a way I just don't get.

Oh and Dan, STFU also. You brought in Tarek because he didn't say "except for me"? Bullshit.

Lee, just STFU. God I hate you.

Who the hell is Leslie anyway? And did we need the bathroom stall powwow? Ew.

Didn't agree with the firing tonight. Tarek has had multiple screw ups and was saved only because Dan didn't bring Lennyinto the boardroom. But I can see Dan's point of why he didn't.Liek he said, they all agree with Lenny's concept and - sorry to be cliche - at the end of the day Dan took ownership of agreeing to that decision.

Mandrea is just a petty bitch. As soon as Roxanne said whomever pm'd last week was better than Andrea, Andrea set out to make things difficult for Roxanne. I can't stand peopel who complain solely to create tension and drama rather than offer suggestions or assistance. Mandrea would have been fine if they lost just so she could try to get Roxanne fired. Mandrea is completely out for herself, which I hope comes back to bite her in her ass.

And she desperately needs a haircut or a hairstyle of some sort. With all her millions can't she afford to get a cut and a professional dye job?

Lee is a worm and a suck up.

Bryce? Still a pussy.

I'm glad Roxanne won as PM, and they got a good prize for once! Andrea's Type A Personality nitpick was really pointless: "The competing cruise shouldn't look horrendous, just standard." Whaaa?

Dan wasn't a great PM. He let the team hang around, doing nothing, during the shoot and his vocal stylings during the brainstorming portion was irritating and showy. But then again, Tarek had a couple of bad ideas, and I think his man-crush on Dan was clouding his judgment. I would've been happy if either one left.

But of course, Donald usually fixates on the wrong thing. Lenny had a good, creative idea... they just needed to develop it more, to make the connection of a castaway being like a person stuck at work or something.

However, Dan opted not to have Lenny in there... I think because he didn't want Lee to have backup, and Donald and co. picked up on that. I think, though, if Lenny had stayed in the boardroom, he would still find some way to survive a firing. I don't know... he's just so resilient in the boardroom.

Here's what I don't understand: During a brainstorming session lots of ideas get thrown around, most of which aren't that great. Trump was going after Lenny for coming up with that idea. Is he saying team members shouldn't throw out ideas that might potentially not be top-notch for fear of firing?

And it's not like it's some out-of-left-field idea (even if it wasn't great). You put any group of people together on that same task and I'd wager most if not all of them would come with a similar idea. In short, the problem wasn't the idea but the fact that no one spoke up and said they had a problem or came up with anything better.

I actually thought that Gold Rush's was better, I especially liked the little "pre-presentation" with each person holding a picture, I thought that was a nice touch. When the one exec said the thing about not knowing what the castaway was, I knew that Synergy would then win. The only thing I like about Synergy winning is that Roxanne was PM and she stood up to Andrea and the rest of the team. They needed to be put in their place.

I guess Tarek is like this season's Chris (from Season 3) or something - maybe it'll take Tarek 6 Boardroom visits to get fired, too?

I'm kind of in shock, actually, that Trump fired Dan and not Tarek, and that the reason was because of Lenny. So what about the castaway? The text/voice thing is why they lost, and that was Lenny who brought that up, so that makes up for the "concept" thing.

[ETA]: Did anyone else find it ironic that Trump said that the castaway idea "stinks"? I thought that any form of the word "stink" was offensive? I guess only if the person is overweight and disrespected and disliked by his junior high mentality team members, then the word is offensive.

Actually I thought both of them were nothing to write home about.

Some other thoughts:

I really am beginning to despise Andrea. What a snitty little so and so. Deliberately butting heads with the PM just because she didn't like what was said about her in the previous boardroom? What Roxanne said, although not absolute praise, was not an insult either. Andrea LOOKS like an adult, but she acts like a ten year old.

I guess the right person was fired again. It was a stupid concept, and Lenny should have been brought in because of that, but then again, he wanted the voice-over to be in it. I wonder if that would have improved the quality of the commercial?

Tarek -- dead man walking.

I like how Lee is somehow able to remain above it all. And he does seem to be getting the Andy edit, and not just because he looks a bit like Andy.

Did anyone else think at the beginning when they advised the teams that the commercials MUST be done by 3PM because the ship leaves then, that SOMEONE was going to end up being stuck on the ship? If I were there, I might have gotten stuck on purpose! Just think, a cruise on Donald's nickel!

That's about it for now....

So, after Brent gets fired though he had no role in last week's loss, Lee gets EXCUSED because he played no role in this week's loss. Whatever!

And LENNY is close to being fired? After the cruise guys said it was the mssing voice-over---the voice-over that only LENNY wanted---that was the crucial error?

Moreover, apparently, if the entire team agrees to the concept, it's only the idea-generator who gets blamed if it doesn't pan out. No wonder so many contestants let others speak up.

That said, poor Dan had a different idea all together, before Lenny piped up. Ah, well.

At least TD finally wised up to the loss that a fired Tarek would have been. Heh.

ETA: Koomaster, the cast-away's watch was taken as another symbol of "no restrictions, no schedules".

I've never actually seen an android in operation before, I guess that's why it's called 'Andrea'. Very subtle on the part of its manufacturers. I thought it was going to pop a gasket, though, when Roxanne got to put the yuuuge tiara on her head as winning PM.

Oh my God, Andrea is just absolutely horrendous. HATE. She has been a complete asshat from day one if you check out the extended footage. This episode she flaunted her asshattery in full glory.

Also, if she's a multimillionaire, why does she look and dress like complete shit?? Like, all the time?

I'm so happy Roxanne won. I originally wanted Synergy to crash and burn after their Brent pile up last episode, but after Roxanne stood up for herself against the evil clique and went against Andrea's attempts to boss everyone to high heaven, I was so happy for her that she pulled out a win. Yeah, Andrea got a diamond but I think it burns her that Roxanne won with a different approach, so that makes me happy.

And Dan was totally the right call for firing. I was all set to be sad when they fired the pretty, I mean Tarek, because Trump definitely has it out for him and he did actually contribute to the loss this time. But once Dan left out Lenny...and admitted it was because he didn't want Lenny and Lee teaming up...it seemed like a sure thing he was toast. And what was with all of those "Lee is a politician" comments? What bearing does that even have on this? It's not like Lee was being a politician with the client and trying to a build a relationship, he's just been ass-kissing the viceroys.

So all in all, good firing and Andrea? Is still an immense bitch with worse hair color than I've seen on Willow, Grace and Miranda combined.

I seriously hate, hate, hate, Donald Trump. He's so obnoxious in the way he treats these candidates, and it makes me literally sick to my stomach. When he was berating Tarek in the boardroom, announcing that the way MENSA does this is wrong, and that perhaps Tarek didn't take the test at all, he had someone else do it for him.

Where the hell does he get off spewing this shit?! You're not God, Trump! Just because someone isn't right for your damn corporation (see - kisses copius amounts of ass), doesn't mean the accomplishments in their personal life should be taken away from them or belittled. He's such a pompous fuck. Ugh!

Add this to the fact that both Carolyn and Bill are perpetually reassuring him and telling Trump he's 'making the right decision', it's absolute ridiculous. No one makes the right decision 100% of the time, so Bill, Carolyn, and George, stop telling Trump he does. Fuckwits.

On to the meat of the episode: I thought that Lenny's idea was bad in hindsight, only after realizing that, when advertising a cruise, you probably shouldn't show someone who's been shipwrecked. That said, even though it was Lenny's idea, the entire team implemented it, and Dan (and Tarek) only made it worse by rejecting the voiceover.

Also, the Brink's $30,000 diamond spree was a kickass reward, though it really makes you see how shitty other rewards have been (see - helping three unfortunate men get dressed).

A craptastic episode, mostly because of Donald Trump himself.

I'm p'd b/c I thought Dan was kinda hot. In the intro's, I always thought that he was kinda cute, but when I saw him re-enter in the presentation room for the final decision in his jeans, oh gawd. I said, "Dan is really filling those jeans. Me likey." So I was sad to see him go.

When Dan and Tarek hugged I immediately had a gay fantasy about the both of them getting it on. LOL. That would be hot. Because, although Tarek gets on my nerves when he speaks, he's still nice to look at.

Oh, and I hate Lee. Fugly, just fugly.

Loved Lenny when he responded to Trump about Tarek's mensa membership. He said, "Maybe they can sign up online for $18." Totally fuckin' awesome!

This episode showed that, at this point, there is no clear front runner. BOth teams have issues and no one individual really stood out as a star. Maybe "under the radar" Leslie will get it.

Take that Andrea! Talk about no poker face though. Seeing as how she could barely contain her depair that they won, would she have cheered if they lost.

I actually like Synergy's better because of the contrast. It made more sense then the cast away. It was a toss up for me on who should go. Both Tarek and Dan were insufferable. At least Dan realized that he couldn't blame Lenny for the idea when they all agreed it was a good idea.

Now that was a nice reward. Good going Roxanne. You got your feet wet, if you are PM again though, try and keep better focus. Though I wonder how much of it was Andrea just being pissed and trying to create friction.

For someone proclaiming that others should not be there if they need to coddled, she sure does need alot of validation as the top dog.

I totally thought that the bathroom stall footage was there because they were going to be unable to leave the stalls. And the boat would leave, and they would be trapped in the toilets. I was surprised when that didn't happen. It would have been rather hilarious, and one of the high points of the show, IMO.

Well I didn't know who Dan was till tonight, but I really liked that he refused to blame Lenny. He was right, the whole team was enthusiastic about the concept- that can't be pinned on Lenny.

Roxanne didn't do too well in her presentation, I thought. She sort of immediately went on the defensive when they asked her to explain the team's concept, and I thought that was a mistake. All she had to do was say, "We wanted to show the contrast" or something but she starts right in with "it was a risk, blah blah blah." When I was in school doing presentations, they beat you over the head with "Don't apologize, don't overanalyze- don't hear "why did you go that way" as a negative, because it doesn't always mean that." Sell it every minute, how what you're presenting is the best thing ever.

But, it ended up working. Whatever. Most enjoyable episode so far this year, except for Trump, Bill and Carolyn going all bloodthirsty over Lenny.

I think it was part of the 'metaphor'. You don't need a watch because you run your own schedule.

On the subject of Andrea, there's a difference between coddling your subordinates, and treating them with respect while also encouraging them. You treated them like crap. Roxanne called you on it (with class, I might add), and you couldn't handle not being stroked and told you were the bestest best to ever best. You're a bitch. A class-A, tight-assed, rude bitch. I can't wait for your eventual firing.

Edited because commas CAN matter.

koomaster:


Huh. My husband asked this too.

Anyway, it was supposed to emphasize that everything is freeform and up to you -- you don't have to be anywhere at a particular time, so you don't need a watch. It was weird (sort of implies to me that you are NOT on your own time if you don't get your own watch), but at least it was some kind of connection between the castaway and the freestyle concept. Although I don't think a castaway is a bad idea itself for a luxury cruise, it really had no connection to the emphasis on "freestyle".


ETA: I should take less time to compose my posts, someone already mentioned the "metaphor" above. Sorry.

Though this was Tarek's third trip to the boardroom, I feel this was the only time where he possibly deserved to be fired. As much as I like Dan, I think his lack of leadership was the biggest factor in this loss. We all know that neither Lenny nor Lee had any responsibility for the loss and should not have been fired.

I had a little hope that Synergy would lose only to see Andrea fired. She is the candidate I hate the most (even more than Brent).

Word! That's exactly my question. Why the fuck is Tarek still there? It's like Dan drank the Tarek Kool-Aid and threw in with him. Tarek hates Lee, Dan hates Lee. Tarek hates Lenny, Dan hates Lenny.

Well, I mean, I hate Lenny too, but I also hate Tarek, so I'm pretty sure I'm Kool-Aid free.

I dunno... every time I see Dan, I can't help but think, "There's Flea from the Red Hot Chili Peppers!"

I think the high point of the show for me so far had to be the end, where Bill completely forgets himself and says really genuinely, "I like Dan." And then Trump immediately gets in there with, "But you think it was the right decision!" And Bill goes back into viceroy mode and gives Trumpy the [public] reassurance he so desperately needs. It was just so great to hear how remotely unaffected speech is so abruptly checked in TrumpWorld.

Oh, LOL! Thanks. It makes sense now that you say it, but I certainly didn't get that message seeing it on the commercial. I was just so focused on why this poor guy is getting his watch stolen. :P

"I think the Mensa people should change the test."

Lord knows that I loathe Trump, but I thought this line was hysterical.

Neither ad was anything to write home about, but I liked Synergy's more. Even though I would have had someone different do the voice over work, it sounded very cold. Speaking of cold, what was with Andrea tonight? I really think she wanted Synergy to lose so that she could pull an I told you so on Roxanne. I think her very first interview of the episode was already blaming Roxanne for any loss that might occur. I was concerned for Roxanne, because it looked as though they might lose, the direction was certainly lacking in the beginning and her organizational skills didn't seem to be strong, but I'm very glad she pulled it out and managed to give Andrea a piece of her mind.

Regarding the firing, I think a case could be made for either Dan or Tarek. Tarek's shooting down of Lenny's idea to have a voice over instead of text was a mistake. While commercials may get seen 20,000 times in the real world, this one would only be seen once. So I don't think they viewers focus should have been split on the text and the video. Dan should have been fired because he was an ineffectual leader, he didn't utilize the resources he had to their fullest potential and that's killer in the boardroom.

Pretty soon Trump's just going to point and snap in an effort to get the executives to say their names. It's quite sad, but funny in a way.

With those two actions in the BR, Dan deserved to go. It's business, not Grade 4. Carolyn nailed it with the 10 year old comment.

Thanks to Goldrush's commercial, my lasting impression of NCL is they steal your stuff.

Lately George and Carolyn are not viceroying together. It almost makes you think they don't want to work together. I know that's not true, but this swaping out of viceroys this season is excessive.

"And your names, please?" Classy, DT, classy.

I can't believe nobody has mentioned my WTF moment of the night: During Trump's words of wisdom segment, he actually KISSES Kendra. Her reaction reminded me of when you are at a family reunion and you see a long lost relative that you don't know really well, and they immediately zoom in for a kiss.

What was with Dan's floating yellow scarf from last week? I swear I saw it on Lee, Leslie, and Charmaine at one point or another tonight.

Lenny? Lose the accent, and you've got Brad Garrett.

Andrea. Hate. Very glad Roxanne won and showed her up, but I don't see Roxanne winning the whole thing as I had previously thought.

Can't really argue with the firing. I would have probably fired Tarek, but there were valid reasons for getting rid of Dan. Loved it when Bill let it slip that he actually liked Dan after Trump fired him.

My favorite exchange of the night:

Trump: So, how many propellers does this thing have?
Captain (very deadpan): Two
Trump: Oh, I thought it would have been more.

Is the diamond vault located beneath a maximum security prison?



That's the second week in a row that Trump hasn't even pretended to know the executives of the featured company.

Plus, it sounds more noble than "it turns out Lenny was right when he tried to convince us to add a voiceover, so you probably wouldn't have fired him anyway."

Would someone please make all those stupid scarves go away? Like, yesterday?

Tarek's still there because Fate is a woman and she smiled on his pretty fluffy hair.

Dan gave me a headache, and when did Leslie join the team?

Does anyone know of any places that post screencaps from this show, because I want pretty fluffy fresh out of the shower Tarek for my desktop.

Man, does Trump hate Tarek for some reason. It's much crueler not to fire him, and to keep telling him over and over how bad he is.

God the Donald is awful … are his social skills getting worse? For the second week in a row we had an extremely uncomfortable introduction to the “client.” Would it kill him to just say “and now the judges for this task will introduce themselves” instead of the "say your names" schtick. It’s almost as if he is reading a flash card: <insert name here>

And while I hate to be as sensitive as Katherine MacKinnon …. Did Donald actually kiss Kendra when they met for their BUSINESS MEETING. The inappropriateness just continues ...

And, not for nothing, why can’t I get the words “jumping the shark” out of my head.



LOL ... I noticed the same thing!

I seem to be in a minority here, but in spite of Tarek's mistakes, I really like him and feel he is a strong player. This task was probably his worst performance, and my like of him was not strong on this task. However, I completely agree with what he said in the boardroom about him taking on lots of responsibility & stepping up week after week whereas others weakly stay under the radar. If a team wins, great; if the team loses, then it is on the shoulders of those who step up. I relate to this, as I work in an environment where a select few take on the responsibility while others who are lazy merely sit back and criticize while we take the heat. All this said, I do believe that Tarek really blundered tonight, but I hope he bounces back. (And that he needs to do VERY SOON!!)