Hmmm…did it seem to anyone else that Rebecca was getting a heavy-duty “winner’s” edit tonight?[/quote]
Gee, I thought it was just me! They might as well have just had the Trumpinator come out from behind a curtain and say, "Randal, you're gonna get the Kwame Treatment." I don't know who
this Randal is, but I'd like the Original Recipe back.
Ok, exactly what union is Joe Piscapo in that wouldn't let him follow through on a charity commitment the night before the event?[/quote]
I'd say the Burnett Local 666.
Najat333
Dec 8, 2005 @ 10:02 pm
Ok, exactly what union is Joe Piscapo in that wouldn't let him follow through on a charity commitment the night before the event?
lessa2010
Dec 8, 2005 @ 10:02 pm
Bull Crap that they got to choose their teams out of everyone at a cozy dinner with Carolyn and George. Not fair, not fair, not fair! /tantrum
Randall, Randall, Randall, what the hell are you doing?
Rebecca appears to be kicking your ass right now and she has been one of the weakest players I've seen on this show.
ARGH!
Though I find it interesting that they stressed there can be only one winner and no mention of the surprise shocker. Hmmmmm.
MarchingOcelot
Dec 8, 2005 @ 10:03 pm
They certainly are trying to take Randall down a peg so that we don’t just assume he’ll win the whole thing.
While Rebecca had me yelling at the tv about how she was ten shades of crazy for her team choices, they seem to be working all pretty well together. Even Carolyn, though, appeared to be basically telling Rebecca, "Bitch, you nuts. Toral is a fool and will take up valuable time talking about milkshakes."
The meal with George and Carolyn is always one of the best reward type things because they are actual people who smile and laugh and do not have dead, balding cats as their hairstyles.
Now, while I usually wouldn’t assume that it is within Mark Burnett’s power to control the weather, something tells me he had a team of meteorologists telling him exactly what days it would rain to schedule Randall’s task. And they probably told Piscapo’s union to not let him in on anything.
stopeslite
Dec 8, 2005 @ 10:05 pm
Come on. An event for 150 people and 3-5 celebrity performers, inside, versus an event for 400 people, two entire baseball teams, and outside? These aren't even comparable in terms of difficulty. Just not fair. And what was with their budgets?? Rebecca's team was buying "shimmery" fabrics and getting custom-upholstered chairs, while Randal's team was shopping at Party City? I shop for my kids' birthdays at Party City!
Absolute winner's edit for Rebecca, although could that be to throw us off the track? I can't believe it about the union issues, though - if part of the package is that she was told right at the beginning that she had Joe Piscapo, that should mean that everything has been taken care of with Joe Piscapo. Unless, that is, it was a setup to help even out the playing field once the producers heard the rain forecast for the next day.
Dun-dun-duuuuuuun!
ETA: I was glad that Randal showed some spunk in the beginning boardroom scene, at least, i.e. "I'll see you your broken ankle, and raise you my dead grandmother and my 3-0 record! Ha!"
TiffanyNichelle
Dec 8, 2005 @ 10:06 pm
What was with Randall tonight? So damn laid back? Yeah, push a meeting, we've got to go the party store! Yeah, let's hang out up here and watch as one team member works his ass off. Sure we'll commend him for it but let's not go down. WTF?
And Joe Piscipo? You're not dead? And you didn't think to mention the union during dinner? Ok.
The Yahoo people, while tough, were annoying. What was up with the not asking people for money... at a fundraiser?
I loved Rebecca during the dinner fighting for who she wanted on her team. Except for when she wanted Toral of all people.
triggerhappyjack
Dec 8, 2005 @ 10:06 pm
I thought choosing Toral was an awesome decision. Yeah, it was risky, but it made Rebecca look like she huge balls for going out on a limb like that. Also, if she can manage Toral, it's going to look a lot more impressive than being able to manage Josh, Marshawn and that other guy. Obviously Toral could go crazy and it could all backfire, but that's why it's a risk.
n00b
Dec 8, 2005 @ 10:06 pm
Well, Randal sucked. Micromanage much? Way to miss a meeting while you take the entire team out to buy Bedazzlers, er I mean smiley faces and toy megaphones. That one lady thought that Josh was in charge of the team. Fucking Marshawn sitting up in the luxury box idly watching Mark bust his ass? Trump should've hired the goddamn Outback dude, he had his act together.
Seems like the Trump Affirmative Action plan is still in play to get rid of all the obstacles. Get rid of Randal's toughest competition before the final two, check. Let the finalists pick their own teammates to get rid of the wildcard of having to manage a bunch of douchebags on your team, check. Too bad you can't control the weather, Trumpy. Now it really is looking like Rebecca's going to win (Not having Joe Piscopo at your show can only be seen as a positive in my book), and Trump's going to do a double hiring. Least we can look forward to not having a predetermined winner next season.
Is Rebecca missing one of her upper teeth on the left side of her mouth? She take a hockey puck to the grill when she was on the ice, too?
Yahoo is purple? Joe Piscopo is a comedy legend? This is a big show now that Yahoo's coming on board? Lazy-ass Union guys refusing to work and screwing people at the last minute? (Wait, scratch that one.) I felt so lost this episode.
Shut the hell up, Howie Mandel's head.
mizplacement
Dec 8, 2005 @ 10:06 pm
If this isn't Kwame vs. Bill Redux, then I just don't know. Except Bill is an intense woman with one ankle. Actually, Rebecca is Bill without the whininess and micro-management. I want Randall to win, but I knew Rebecca was a force to be reckoned with. Color me surprised Tora! Tora! Tora! hasn't bulled her way through everyone yet.
Randall, Randall, Randall *shakes head* What are you DOING? Please stop being Kwame. I knew Kwame and you, Randall, should be no Kwame. He lost, dude. He was nice and all, but his laid-back, I just manage from the hip style freakin' lost. Please be more visual. Please be more hands-on. Not that it matters, since that has already happened. But still.
lessa2010
Dec 8, 2005 @ 10:07 pm
Oh, and Yahoo, you are holding a charity event, presumably those VIP's you've invited know its a charity event. Its okay and expected for you to ask for money for said charity. You don't have to apologize and pretend you just asked them to come for the comedy.
Really.
I promise.
Akai
Dec 8, 2005 @ 10:07 pm
Ok, exactly what union is Joe Piscapo in that wouldn't let him follow through on a charity commitment the night before the event?[/quote]
Probably SAG (Screen Actors Guild). But it doesn't really matter which one it is, because that's the point with unions -- if they failed to get an agreement with *any* union at the event; could be the "guys who set up proscinium [sic] arches that look like computers," then anyone in any other affiliated union is going to be unable to participate, period. What bothered me tho', was the report to Rebecca that "Joe can't participate" when that wasn't *really* the problem at all; the problem is simply to find out what unions are involved and reach an agreement. And come on, it's not like trade unionists are opposed to charity events. It's probably just a simple matter of signing some paperwork that states they'll *only* be using union workers to set up arches. No biggie.
The thing that really impressed *me* with this episode was the awesome, previously unrevealed power that Donald Trump does, in fact, possess. I mean, the man can fucking control the *weather* in New York! Are we to believe it's a coincidence that everytime there's a outdoor event finale on his show, it rains buckets? All these years I just thought he was a self-promoting, do nothing blowhard, but now I realize he's a freaking *force of nature!* :Shudder:
rcpubdef98
Dec 8, 2005 @ 10:07 pm
Getting the trombone edit is never a good thing, Randall. Neither is getting bitch slapped by the corporate sponsor.
But do we really worry during the corporate sponsor's confessional about how the event is going during the planning stages? Classic red-herring.
I wonder what would happen if both events totally flopped due to circumstances beyond their control. Would Trump look at history, which is past events?
Quiddler
Dec 8, 2005 @ 10:07 pm
Agree with all those calling "Shenanigans!" on the Joe Piscipo belonging to the United Brotherhood of "I'm Not Working For Charity" Local 64. Sheeeesh. Makes me want to watch the rerun tomorrow to see if his body language gives him away during that dinner. Because, if this was a Burnett inspired monkey wrench, then Joe's bound to have clued us in somehow...
tiggeril
Dec 8, 2005 @ 10:09 pm
Now, while I usually wouldn’t assume that it is within Mark Burnett’s power to control the weather, something tells me he had a team of meteorologists telling him exactly what days it would rain to schedule Randall’s task. And they probably told Piscapo’s union to not let him in on anything.[/quote]
I agree that there's some wonky editing going on here, but all the tasks are laid out before filming begins. There's no way they juggled around task scheduling and union bylaws just to sandbag the finalists.
gastrolyor
Dec 8, 2005 @ 10:07 pm
Loved the team choices, particularly when Rebecca got all crazy-intense about how she wouldn't let go of Chris. Was I the only one waiting for her to say "If you perform a virgin sacrifice at the full-moon on All Hallow's Eve, you might be allowed to sway me"?
Randal screwed up. Did he check the weather at all? The editors must have been having a blast -- all the shots of the sky, the question of 'What if it rains?' etc. What the hell was he doing letting Mark do all the work and taking all four of them to the party store?
I'm really impressed with the Apprentices that were brought back -- Toral's doing wonderfully (there's a sentence I never thought I'd type), Mark is ... why was he fired again? I want to give Josh a hug, as I loved him during the autism meeting. He seems like a really great guy, and he has such team spirit. Chris and James, too, are very competent. Good choices all around by the Apprentices. Rebecca had to know she'd get more from Toral than the any members of the Bloven -- let's face it, they didn't like her before, so they probably wouldn't work, and they'd be more likely to be negative and sabotage her. With Toral, at least, Rebecca could count on a lack of outright sabotage, even if Toral didn't do anything. Either way, she wasn't going to lose any manpower by picking Toral, just potential negativity.
Come on. An event for 150 people and 3-5 celebrity performers, inside[/quote]
I believe Rebecca and company were expecting 500 guests and 150 VIPs. Or maybe it was 300 guests. Either way, 150 was the number of VIPs, IIRC.
SeaBreeze341
Dec 8, 2005 @ 10:10 pm
Randall: I'm done. Heh. Let's hope not, but from the looks of things, I may have to agree.
The choosing of the teams was an awesome segment. Rebecca totally owned Randal there.
muchsarcasm
Dec 8, 2005 @ 10:09 pm
Why wouldn't Randal ask for as many tents as possible from Outback and promise them it wouldn't rain? It's not like Outback doesn't have the tents and it's not like Randal is Al fucking Roker.
Missing that meeting with Jim Kerr is ridiculous. To go to Party City and get some Bedazzlers? Jim Kerr could've gotten them a band (or since he works with Little Steven van Zant, could've asked him to get them a band) to play if it rains.
As soon as Capital Edge got that call from Joe Piscopo they should've have had one guy call the union and another one going to Caroline's or someplace with business cards ready.
4greyhounds
Dec 8, 2005 @ 10:09 pm
I agree about Rebecca getting the winner's edit.
Over and over again we see the various vendors and sponsors complaining about Randal. But we don't get any interviews about Rebecca.
We get to see the woman from the Autism charity complaining about Randal but we don't see the people Rebecca's team met with (event planners or something) complain about her teams expensive and impractical ideas.
I really hope it is because they have a surprise up their sleeves. Otherwise it is really boring and obvious.
PinkyTuscadero
Dec 8, 2005 @ 10:10 pm
Does anyone remember the sponsor of Rebecca's event?
Oh that's right...Yahoo. Yahoo. Yahoo. Yahoo.
This is still feeling like it was orchestrated from the beginning to have these two people in the finals. The one thing thatstruck me as odd was the Rebecca's team had an event service company assisting them with their event, But Randal didn't have anything like that for his.
And, seriously, a high end charity like the Elizabeth Glaser Pediatric Aids foundation can't attract a better emcee than Joe Piscopo? I'm guessing he was put in to place knowing that "something would suddenly come up."
Randal's team all seemed to genuinely feel that Randal deserved to win. I didn't get that sense from Rebecca's team. They had no ill will towards her, but I never got the impression that they were all 100% behind her winning. More like they were 100% about proving that they aren't worthloess idiots by helping Rebecca win. For Chris, fired after the second task and never having worked with Rebecca, to say that Rebecca has proven herself to him also seemed totally out of place.
Oh...and Chris? Saying the word "shimmery" or "purple" doesn't make you sound like a "fag." That was what he was going to say wasn't it? that or "fairy."
I also didn't get all the "Oh my God, Rebecca has been on crutches and she's still here. She's a amazing!" love. She broke her ankle. She didn't have a leg amputated. She also bombed fairly spectacularly more often than not yet she's Final Two and getting the winner's edit. Go figure.
I'm confused about Yahoo's somewhat lax attitude towards getting the donations. Sticking a donation envelope in a bag? That's pretty risky if the goal is to get peopel to donate. There's no guarantee any of them will. Wouldn't the ticket price be the donation?
I guess this all just felt oddly forced and scripted to me.
Post Script to Mark Burnett and Co. - We're on to the "host/emcee/featured artists backs out/gets lost/makes a surpise appearance, throws team into toal panic mode" scheme. I mean, it's been done in almost every single final task.
As this point I don't care who wins. The double hire thing would make this show lose even more credibility.
When will they pull the season where they bring back 2 "favorite" fired candidates to give them another go so they can win shtick?
shrunken violet
Dec 8, 2005 @ 10:11 pm
For all the grief that Jennifer M. (?) justifiably received for mispronouncing Zathura (which, IIRC, Carolyn referred to as za-THOR-a), the least Trump could do would be to learn the correct pronunciation of the Elizabeth GLASER Pediatric AIDS Foundation. (He pronounces it to rhyme with "brazier".) Somehow everyone else on the show managed to get it right. (Trump's done this before, but I guess none of his sycophants has the nerve to correct him.)
Edited to add: Quiddler, you took the words out of my mouth: Wow, does Glaser's son ever look like his dad!
Leo Jay
Dec 8, 2005 @ 10:12 pm
Carolyn looked gorgeous in that first scene at dinner. Gorgeous! I mean, she's an attractive woman and everything, but she looked just outstanding there. But on to the issue at hand...
Randall's done. I used to really like the guy, but he's disappointed me to an inexplicable degree. Just put him out of his misery. FOUR people are needed to go shopping for party supplies, but ONE guy is left to put up an entire tent, a few banners and a couple hundred chairs all by himself? While the other three look down from a suite saying "gee, that guy really works his ass off...". Disgusting. Then Randall pitches in only after getting dressed down by the Outback exec, and reluctantly puts out a few chairs without even removing his suitcoat. Priceless.
What's really odd is not that he's just screwing up -- that would at least be understandable; what's weird is that he's completely in a daze -- sleepwalking and thoroughly ineffectual.
Congratulations, Rebecca. Even if Joe's a no-show and you don't raise a cent, I'd hire you over Ran-duh.
metrospud
Dec 8, 2005 @ 10:12 pm
Could be a winner's edit for Rebecca, but it could be a set up for the 'real' Randall steping up. Toral not much in evidence tonight, her performance could effect Rebecca's chances either way.
Of course we had the requisit 'no mc..lightning flashing over NY porn' forbodings. Looking forward to the finale, hope Trump doesn't ruin it.
Go Mistress of Intensity!
MyEyesSee
Dec 8, 2005 @ 10:13 pm
Ok, exactly what union is Joe Piscapo in that wouldn't let him follow through on a charity commitment the night before the event? [/quote] Shouldn't be SAG or AFTRA, but then again who knows?
Come on. An event for 150 people and 3-5 celebrity performers, inside, versus an event for 400 people, two entire baseball teams, and outside? These aren't even comparable in terms of difficulty. Just not fair.[/quote]
I've never thought the finals tasks were comparable. Outdoor events ALWAYS require a Plan B.
tiggeril
Dec 8, 2005 @ 10:14 pm
Randal's team all seemed to genuinely feel that Randal deserved to win. I didn't get that sense from Rebecca's team. They had no ill will towards her, but I never got the impression that they were all 100% behind her winning. More liek they were 100% about proving that they aren;t worthloess idiots by helping Rebecca win. For Chris, fired after the second task and never having worked with Rebecca, to say that Rebecca has proven herself to him also seemed totally out of place.
[/quote]
Yeah, there was that one guy who said he was there to beat Randal with Rebecca.
Quite the mental image.
coleoptera
Dec 8, 2005 @ 10:13 pm
I think the big surprise is that Mark gets hired, since he's the only one that did any goddamn work this week.
charma
Dec 8, 2005 @ 10:13 pm
Man, I don't care about Trump and Burnett. She doesn't deserve to win over Randal. The guy's a scientist, not an event planner and Rebecca wouldn't be as far as she is without him carrying her for 3 tasks. And Trump giving her a break the whole season. If she wins, I'll be mad. Not that it matters to Trump.
amberdotcom
Dec 8, 2005 @ 10:13 pm
Hmmm....Rebecca shining and Randall falling apart - true management colors showing or red herring to throw us off what we thought until now was the obvious winner?
Best part of the night though - my mother who hates Trump & reality TV but won't miss the show (even though she doesn't understand what the task is half the time). When Rebecca and Randall were hearing about their final task she suddenly yells from behind me "Would ya stop nodding your heads. You look like those damn bobbly head things!"
Who says corporate america doesn't bring family's together.
rcpubdef98
Dec 8, 2005 @ 10:17 pm
I'm confused about Yahoo's somewhat lax attitude towards getting the donations. Sticking a donation envelope in a bag? That's pretty risky if the goal is to get peopel to donate. There's no guarantee any of them will. Wouldn't the ticket price be the donation?[/quote]
I was thinking the same thing. I think the envelopes will be brought to everyone's attention during little boy Glaser's little speech to tug on the heart strings.
idledandy
Dec 8, 2005 @ 10:19 pm
Best. Editing. Ever! Joe Piscopo is all about doing the show! Joe Piscopo
is the show! Hooray for the Piscopo! Perfect baseball weather! Beautiful day! Your fault if it rains! The final shot was brilliance. Brilliance!
Definite winner's edit for Rebecca.
the trombone edit [/quote]
for Randal! Heh! I actually turned to my mom and said, "Oh no! It's the honking bassoons of incompetence!" When Randal screws up it's just baffling.
Loved the dinner/team-picking scene. Loved that they got to pick good, competitive employees instead of, well, Markus. Love George and Carolyn altogether.
After the tethno expo, I really wasn't high on Rebecca, but I think I've fully come around now. I want to go on secret missions with her and Jacob.
fictionista
Dec 8, 2005 @ 10:17 pm
Yeah, there was that one guy who said he was there to beat Randal with Rebecca.
Quite the mental image. [/quote]
Yeah, Mr. Fiction and I are both 12. We looked at eachother and smiled at that.
Oh well, Randall. The loser's edit is never good. Even if he wins now, most people will feel he doesn't deserve it. And based on tonight's editing, I would agree. I do wish we could have seen more interviews about Rebecca, but maybe there just wasn't anything negative.
milkfish
Dec 8, 2005 @ 10:19 pm
Wouldn't it have been more fun to have the Final Two pick their opponent's team?
"You have to take Melissa!"
"Only if I get to stick you with Markus..."
But then the big risk would be that one or both would have such a dysfunctional crew that the sponsor's event would actually be a spectacular failure.
stopeslite
Dec 8, 2005 @ 10:18 pm
I agree that there's some wonky editing going on here, but all the tasks are laid out before filming begins. There's no way they juggled around task scheduling and union bylaws just to sandbag the finalists.[/quote]
I don't know. I could see it laid out from the beginning to have a predetermined wrench to throw into it. It is an interview, after all. Isn't it ok to throw a couple of curveballs to the candidate and see how he or she handles them? I am reminded of my graduate advisor, who would purposely sabotage presentations while we were practicing them just to see how we would react and get us used to the idea of having to manufacture and immediately switch to a plan B midstream. In fact, in one of my first job interviews, the entire computer system did fail, and part of why I got the job is that the employer was impressed with my ability to handle the problem without getting all psyched up about it. I guess what I'm saying is that if TPTB did pull Piscapo on purpose, and plan an outdoor event when there could well be rain, that's not cheating or being unfair. It's seeing how they do under pressure when everything doesn't go perfectly.
Hamhock96
Dec 8, 2005 @ 10:20 pm
Man, I don't care about Trump and Burnett. She doesn't deserve to win over Randal. The guy's a scientist, not an event planner.[/quote]
Well, the Apprentice last task is always event planning, so go figure why a scientist felt it necessary to apply for the job.
Why does Rebecca have to be getting the "edit"? Maybe that's what's really happening. She's doing it properly; he's not.
Jennifer from Jennifer v. Kelly lost her celeb at the last minute, too. It's a set-up.
Akai
Dec 8, 2005 @ 10:19 pm
Methinks that for an organization named after a word meaning "knee-jerk reaction total morons," Yahoo takes themselves just a *bit* too seriously. Playing down that a charity event is a charity event? If every synagogue in three states that I've ever attended services at can have a representative from Israel Bonds stand up during High Holiday services and implore people to give I kinda think rich snobs going to a VIP comedy club event can expect a little nudge.
canuck31003
Dec 8, 2005 @ 10:19 pm
Wow, I really liked this episode. This is shaping up to be one of the best finals, yet (knock on wood). IMO, both Randal and Rebecca have been shown to be competent, though Rebecca appears to have received the better edit. I mean, what's with four people picking up gift bags, and only one person setting up the baseball field?!
Regarding Piscopo, I hope they explain what went wrong next week. Did Rebecca's team fail/forget to square away the union, or what? I can't imagine the union would flatly forbid charity work--that would be some major bad press. If it's just a matter of red tape then there may be hope, but looking at the previews it doesn't appear that way. Hopefully the preview is purposely misleading to build up suspense.
I hope Trump hires both next week, or hires one, but then hires the other once the season is over. I think both Rebecca and Randal are qualified.
tone
Dec 8, 2005 @ 10:20 pm
The one thing thatstruck me as odd was the Rebecca's team had an event service company assisting them with their event[/quote]I didn't find it odd, I found it wrong. Isn't that what they are supposed to be? The event planners?
More oddities:
Trump leaves Rancic and Carolyn in the BR to tell the good news to R & R that they are F2, and they are going out to dinner with George and Carolyn. Wasn't George out of town on business? And now he's there?
R & R must have been told to pick a women, because they went from 3 men each, to 2 men and 1 woman. Speaking of women, I'm thought Alla would have been picked. Given the size of these events, she could have been given one part to manage herself.
Funny how 3 of the quad-firees came back. Did no one want Jenthura?
ETA: One great thing about this entire season: No Donnie Douchebag!
Rowr17
Dec 8, 2005 @ 10:21 pm
Damn, Randal blew chunks tonight.
What was up with the scene of Marshawn and Randal standing up in the skybox talking about how much work Mark was doing? Could you BE a little more lazy?
Funny how 3 of the quad-firees came back. Did no one want Jenthura? [/quote]
Would you want her? Actually, I would rather have her than Markus, Kristi, or Melissa. They just make me shudder.
Ashforth
Dec 8, 2005 @ 10:23 pm
I guess this all just felt oddly forced and scripted to me.[/quote]
Amen. Beginning with the bizarre spectacle of Randal and Rebecca standing against the wall pretending to be waiting for the returnee from the boardroom. And standing, and standing... until Trump came in. Please. I'll tune in to see who "wins," I guess, but I'm pretty sure this is the last Apprentice for me.
idledandy
Dec 8, 2005 @ 10:25 pm
Why does Rebecca have to be getting the "edit"? Maybe that's what's really happening. She's doing it properly; he's not.[/quote]
Oh, I quite agree. With regard to this show, I don't view the "winner's edit" as lying with editing. I think they simply try to make sure we've seen what eventually leads to the win. That's why it's been totally obvious ten minutes into each episode which team wins. It's whoever doesn't get the honking bassoons.
JessieQ
Dec 8, 2005 @ 10:24 pm
Piscopo can afford union dues?
DeVryGuy
Dec 8, 2005 @ 10:26 pm
I know everyone thinks the Randall suck is a trick of editing, but i'm going with for whatever reason he doesn't have his shit together. Law of averages says he had to screw up eventually.
I'm pulling for Rebecca, I'm always for the underdog on this show.
charma
Dec 8, 2005 @ 10:30 pm
So 1 win makes an apprentice while 3 wins and a screwup plus multiple advanced degrees and class means go home?
Rebecca still hasn't proven herself to me. I think she's been lucky Trump has a thing for her.
lancer78
Dec 8, 2005 @ 10:31 pm
My feeling is that after watching S2 of TA, Randall should have at least made a provision in case of rain. He violated the law of the 7 P's (Proper Previous Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance).
According to the preview, Rebecca fails to find an MC for the event. The clip shows people sitting around looking like they're waiting for s*** to happen. In business you have to plan for contingencies. I think it is bad form for Joe (whatever his name) to bail on a charity event, especially when most charity events are done by "volunteers" that are not paid anyway but feel that doing a good deed is payment enough. however, that does not excuse Rebecca for not coming up with an idea to replace him. I would have asked DT to do it. He appears to be a man that enjoys comedy and he is terrific at being a promoter.
My opinion is that DT just can R&R and replace them with Mark (for doing so much work during the task) and Chris(For showing creativity) and let them do a final task.
stopeslite
Dec 8, 2005 @ 10:31 pm
I'm surprised Rebecca's team wasn't more, can I use the word, CREATIVE about how to get donations. Haven't they ever watched 'Whose line is it anyway?' ? They could auction off a chance for someone to come up onstage and get a little riff about themselves by one of the comedians, or a humorous biting letter composed on the spot by Joe Piscopo to someone (dictate a letter to my ex-boyfriend who I found cheating on me), etc. I mean, their suggestion was to auction a chance to sit in the purple Blue's Clues chair? (Yes, whoever mentioned that, that was the first thing I thought of!)
That's why I'm wondering what weight each part will play. It looks like Rebecca will have the better event but not raise much money, while Randal will have a complete disaster but have Josh squeeze every last penny from the attendees.
thuganomics85
Dec 8, 2005 @ 10:32 pm
Martha's show had the Rise and Fall of Ryan. I guess Trump is going to counter that with the Rise and Fall of Randal. Figures.
Randal's done. Seriously, there was way to much stuff going wrong. The best they could do for Rebecca was have her worry about raising money, and not having a MC. I doubt that's going to amount to anything. I'm changing my vote. Rebecca is clearly going to win this. And I'm pissed. Damn you, Randal. Why do you have to fuck up now?
Toral actually seems to be working well. I'm glad. And she's still hot. Chris! I barely remember you. Mark is clearly the Elizabeth/Chris S. of this season. He will be redeemed by his performance. Marshawn is not doing anything, Josh seems to be doing everything, and James is his usual competent self. No baseball around to go bonkers about. Then again, he might have actually been able to help Randal on his task. He probably would have covered the field.
Next week: Yeah, I'll watch. Randal will probably go down in flames, and Rebecca will win. Sigh.
Kaylee529533
Dec 8, 2005 @ 10:34 pm
You don't need editors and tinkly music to point out that Randall pulling Mark off that interview to shop was a dumb decision. As for Rebecca having professional planners--I'm guessing that she decided to hire them, and Randall didn't think that they were needed.
The dinner was so great--Rebecca was so ready and Randall just wasn't. For weeks now Randall's been caught once or twice an episode with an "oh shit/who me?" look on his face. Rebecca acted like the winner, totally in charge, for every minute of the hour tonight.
I agree that throwing them curve balls is legimate. Rebecca's being set up--and why not?--with the Piscapo thing. Randall's getting rain, so whatever they intended to set him up with will probably not be needed.
Rebecca's grown a lot--she did a much better job managing a team then she did way back in episode two or whatever. I agree with the poster above that hiring one of the bloven wouldn't have worked, so why not Toral? I'm guessing that an unseen rule was that their teams had to be coed, though they both named 3 men first. I was so afraid that the big surprise was going to be that each got the ones that the others picked!
I'm not as worried about no Joe for Rebecca as I am about Yahoo's whole "we can't press them for money" bit.
Best final showdown ever. No Omarosa mucking things up--no horrible firees at all, in fact--just two professionals going head to head to see who wins. I found this to be an intensely exciting hour of t.v. I don't understand the falling ratings--best season of TA yet.
Forrester
Dec 8, 2005 @ 10:34 pm
Oh, I quite agree. With regard to this show, I don't view the "winner's edit" as lying with editing. I think they simply try to make sure we've seen what eventually leads to the win. That's why it's been totally obvious ten minutes into each episode which team wins. It's whoever doesn't get the honking bassoons.[/quote]
TPTB wouldn't be that blatant with such a heavy-handed "winner's edit" in one direction... like their audience consist of grade schoolers. They even had Randall in the preview saying "I'm Done!" Come on! Talk about a red-herring! Give me a break!
And why is Rebecca so deserving? like another poster said... she's only in the final two because of A) Randall. B) Those crutches, and C) Flying under the radar. if that isn't an Affirmitave Action hire, then I don't know what is.
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