I'm trying to follow Jacob's advice and look at the Extra Bonus Footage. However, I am apparently a moron of some sort because I cannot find the Extra Bonus Footage. I see the links for video, but from there I only see links for Seasons, 1, 2, 3, and "you're fired." Can someone help me? Thanks.[/quote]First go to www.yahoo.com and then click on "TV" (It's sort of buried in the fourth column). Then there'll be an obvious big link to "The Apprentice." Then, fourth link on the top is "Exclusive video" (among other spots on that web page).
highlander
Dec 2, 2005 @ 1:11 pm
Alla says early on in the task that Felisha came back from the boardroom a different person and I saw that too. Felisha was devasted by Carolyn's comment that Felisha and Adam were the two weakest (Felisha did believe she was much stronger than Rebecca-see Felisha's taxi interview on extra footage and Felisha became uncertain, insecure and not decisive at all. When Carolyn just asked a simple question of Excel, "How long did this video take to make" Rebecca also freaked out and Randal had to calm her down. If he didn't tell her to let it roll off her back I think Rebecca would have tried to change her video. So, imagine Felisha's freakout and her feeling she had to prove something but unsure of exactly how to go about it and you get her wanting to be the actress, then wanting to be the director, and frustrating Alla to no end. Alla offered to be the actress. She offered to give control to Felisha but Alla also told her that if you give Alla a task, don't tie her hands. They wasted so much time in the short time they had going back and forth with their dynamics that it had to affect their performance. Felisha became a mess after Carolyn's comment and she seemed to me to almost be on the verge of a breakdown when I watched her during the task and after they lost. She was hysterical about going into the boardroom to face Carolyn and Trump. Carolyn and Trump had to see this in the boardroom and that is why Carolyn became softer and kinder towards Felisha. Carolyn knew Felisha was going to be fired but she also recognized that Felisha fell apart after Carolyn's comment from the previous boardroom. Felisha mentions that boardroom as soon as Trump starts questioning her and Trump and Carolyn can't help but see how fragile Felisha became. Alla could have had more sympathy for Felisha but I also think she watched S2 when Jenn M. went after Sandy and everybody else Jenn M. went after in the boardroom and I think Alla did not realise- new season, new rules. That's the problem with this show. What Trump says he likes one season or in one boardroom he doesn't like the same thing in the next boardroom or the next season. Chris showed loyalty to Mark and he gets fired. JennM. of S2 even screams at George and she goes to final 2. I am not saying that Alla was an angel but she thought she had to be tough in the boardroom after watching Kwame being told he should have fired Omarosa and was not micro managing enough and everything else she has seen on S1 and S2. But I still say it was planned that Felisha and Alla were both going to be fired no matter what. Trump always can come up with some reason to fire anyone he feels like.
NavyDoc
Dec 2, 2005 @ 1:18 pm
A few comments:
So far, tasks seem to have nothing to do with real estate, construction, or anything that I would associate with actual business. They all seem to be about marketing. Why? Has trump completely blown off the "job interview" aspect of the show and turned it into simply a way for him to sell crap for Lucasfilm, microsoft, etc? Is that why noone (with the possible exception of Alla) would have been able to carry Kelly Pardew's or Bill Rancic's jock in season's past?
I fully acknowledge the editing that takes place to create drama and tension onn any given reality show, but Alla, honey? You are one mean beeyotch.
Last year, on the comedy central series "Drawn Together" they did a spoof on "The Apprentice" where Trump was shown as violenting orgasming whenever he fired someone. I swear he was about to yell out "Where do you want it!" as he fired Alla.
Oh God, I hope Clay and Markus come back for the final task. Maybe they can throw them into a tranmogrifier and combine them into a 10-foot-tall mega man who is bitchy and vindictive but can't seem to articulate it.
Insomniac
Dec 2, 2005 @ 1:19 pm
The odd thing about this to me was that they seemed stunned to have 2 1/2 minutes of film for a 1 minute video. I know nothing about filmmaking but I thought that should be a GOOD thing, get more than you think you need then only select the best shots that are essential to telling the story.[/quote]
You definitely shooot more footage than needed and choose the best shots to tell the story or create the feel. I got the impression, based on the sheets of paper the editor was looking through, that they had chosen the shots and he was saying that even their choices would amount to 2 and 1/2 minutes.
Alla is a leader. She's only a leader. Don't challenge her. That is her problem in terms of being TA.
Felisha was weak, no doubt, but I didnt see her completely abdicating her PM role. It's very difficult to act and direct. Only seasoned professionals can pull it off. So, she acted and then wanted to know what was shot from what angle, etc. Doesn't change the fact that she was weak. I think she wanted to retain the distinction of PM so she could claim a victory, even in the event of a loss.
It really bothered me to see the Trump stroll and entry into the suite. Contrast Trump behavior with Martha's. When she visited the suite, she knocked on the door. Trump's sense of power and entitlement had him just opening the door. Ass wipe. Talk about ego! Even Alla might not do something like that. I'm wrong. She would.
scarletsmith
Dec 2, 2005 @ 1:35 pm
It took me several hours to process this.
Felicia deserved to be fired last night. Lead, follow, or get out of the way, but don't say "I'm the leader but you're the director but I need creative input but I trust you to get it right but..." For that BS alone, she deserved the long-overdue cobra she finally got.
But...Alla deserved it too for turning into a soul-killing harpy. Those who noted that this was a faster meltdown than Tana last season are pretty close to target; she's always been ruthless and cold, but this was way beyond that. If she'd managed to keep her mouth shut while Felicia was spinning her own hanging rope, she'd likely have escaped (though only to get eliminated in the interview round, because the fix was in for Rebecca...more on that later...) But she couldn't. In her mind, she was going to move on in the next round to take on one of Randal/Rebecca, and she had to stand out in some way to show that even though she'd lost two straight tasks, she was strong and skilled enough to take on St. Randal and tougher and smarter than laser-eyed Rebecca. That's why she turned hard on Felicia...and where she made her crucial mistake. Alla is normally smart enough to read the boardroom, so how she didn't pick up on the fact that Carolyn had gone from "Felicia is weak" to "Felicia may be weak but Alla is a bully" in just a few sentences is really hard to fathom.
That said, the fix was clearly in; Rebecca and Randal were Donald's anointed final two--he admitted as much in the BR last week--and nothing Alla and Felicia did would have been good enough. It didn't help that their video was amateurish, but R&R's wasn't any better--in fact, it was embarrassingly awful, and you could tell the execs thought so, too. I think A&F's video might have worked if the text had been readable or if there had been shots of a relaxed Felicia stretched out at her desk/on the veranda/whatever replacing the micro-fine text between the harried shots of papers flying/cab riding/luggage hauling. The contrast would have worked then. But then, they'd have found some other reason to knock them out (like their unprofessional wardrobe), and we'd still have R&R for the final 2.
And yeah, I think Trump's going to hire them both. Which truly sucks.
I can't wait for Jacob's recap.
emtlee
Dec 2, 2005 @ 1:39 pm
After watching this episode and feeling the way that I did about it, I just had to sign up for an account and post my feelings about the episode last night.
Maybe it was the editing, but I really felt that Alla was going to be in the F2. Everytime she was shown on tasks, whether she was the leader or not, she seemed like she was contributing a lot. Then, in this task, she was too hard to lead?
Back in the XM task, Felisha was also the PM. I seem to remember a couple of times where Alla was giving feedback and making suggestions, and Felisha didn't seem to have a problem with her at that point. But, fast-forward to last night's boardroom, and Trump pretty much jumped on the "she is too hard to manage" bandwagon right away. Plus, Trump isn't looking for a follower for his position, he wants a leader. So I'm very confused as to why Alla got the boot.
As a whole, I'm pretty disappointed with this season. Frankly, I'm sick of the "we are firing 2 people" tonight gimmick that has been used at least twice this season, plus the shocker of firing 4 people in one night. Had this not been done, we could have maybe had the interview round which I felt was the best way of determining which 2 should be in the final (remember when Amy was destined to get to the F2, but then got tripped up in the interview round?).
I'll watch next week, but I'm definitely getting tired of this show, which really pains me to say, because I loved it in S1, and for part of S2
JTMacc99
Dec 2, 2005 @ 1:49 pm
I also hope they bring back Clay and Markus NavyDoc. But opposed to making them into one jack-ass, I would prefer that they make sure that Rebecca gets one and Randal gets the other. After that, I hope they give them three reasonable people in the Brian/Jenthura/Felicia mold. (Heh, I just got a funny thought. If Alla's also in the mix, I would pick her, just to make sure I have somebody to put in charge of my inevitible Clay or Markus employee.)
On a different topic, I have absolutely no problem with the marketing slant of the tasks. Trump may mostly be a real estate guy, but this whole Apprentice thing has allowed him to forge into quite a few consumer products. This show would be really, REALLY boring if the tasks involved scheduling concrete deliveries. So, as far as I'm concerned, bring me the head of Jar-Jar and put it in a sixty-second commercial.
ecogaia
Dec 2, 2005 @ 1:50 pm
Thank you, DeepInTheHeart! No wonder I couldn't find it: I was looking at nbc.com, not yahoo.
alphaharpy
Dec 2, 2005 @ 1:54 pm
Boo! Alla should not have been fired. But, she did seal her doom by NOT SHUTTING UP. Why won't people learn?
Rebecca and her boyfriend have the opposite of chemistry. I imagine she just keeps him around for convenience. She's like the girl Jerry dated on Seinfeld (I think played by Amanda Peet) who was so high-maintenance that both Jerry and George had to do stuff for her once she dropped the "dude." Remember that? I can't imagine that Rebecca needs a boyfriend other than to bounce ideas off of and to run errands.
Felisha totally hamstrung Alla by being so wiggety-wack about taking a subordinated role. We've all seen what Alla can do with video when she's not clotheslined by a neurotic PM.
stopeslite
Dec 2, 2005 @ 1:57 pm
Haven't seen anyone mention this yet, but...
The reward was for that very same day, right? Or at most, the day after? They couldn't have gotten the winners' SOs there in that short amount of time, which makes me think that all four special people were stashed somewhere in NYC, waiting to see who would actually get to go on the boat ride. For some reason, perhaps because I'm evil, I got a bit of sadistic glee thinking of whoever they brought for Alla sitting around, intense and cold just like her, all sure that he/she was going to see her, until the surprising news came...
meknownothing
Dec 2, 2005 @ 1:56 pm
... and neither team could find OK actors? In NEW YORK CITY?![/quote]... especially after Randall made a big deal about finding a LONG list of talent agencies and how long it took to call them all!
teladict
Dec 2, 2005 @ 2:00 pm
It didn't help that their video was amateurish, but R&R's wasn't any better--in fact, it was embarrassingly awful, and you could tell the execs thought so, too. I think A&F's video might have worked if the text had been readable or if there had been shots of a relaxed Felicia stretched out at her desk/on the veranda/whatever replacing the micro-fine text between the harried shots of papers flying/cab riding/luggage hauling.[/quote]
I didn't think R&R's video was really that awful...it obviously wasn't produced by professionals, but it seems that the point of these kinds of tasks is to provide an introduction to the product and get across how it could help your business. I had only a minimal understanding of what LiveMeeting was, but after watching their video, I felt that I understood it much better. The other video, in trying to tell you too much, didn't tell you anything.
echokilo
Dec 2, 2005 @ 2:06 pm
I'm kind of amazed at the edit Felisha got--invisible but then very sympathetic. Someone at the show (maybe Trump himself?) wants to give her career a boost. As opposed to Alla, whose career they effectively killed.
I really think it's a mistake for them to make the last two episodes all about the final two. The show is best when it's about people fighting with each other to get the job. There's a reason people love the in-fighting during the tasks and in the boardroom. They try to recreate this tension when they bring back firees, but for me, it doesn't work. If I were MB, I'd only whittle it down to the final two for the last episode.
Trocoloca
Dec 2, 2005 @ 2:07 pm
Okay, I'm still a moron because I went to Yahoo and looked at the clips and STILL can't find the Extra Footage. Can someone tell me where in the "Exclusive Video" the clip appears?
THANKS!
2ys4me
Dec 2, 2005 @ 2:12 pm
Was anyone else frankly expecting the Microsoft executive to mention F&A's outfits as innappropriate? It was so shocking and obviously bad how they dressed I expected someone to mention it.
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What's really ironic, at Microsoft, the actual Redmond shrine, everyone dresses totaly casual, never in suits even when doing presentations.
You can always spot the new kid on the block: wearing pressed shirt, nice slacks, maybe even a tie. After a day or two, it's jeans, baggy pants, tees, sandals or loafers (no socks), backpacks, and so on.
You would think, besides that, A&F would catch on in NY that brights/whites just aren't it babe unless you're at the beach.
highlander
Dec 2, 2005 @ 2:12 pm
As opposed to Alla, whose career they effectively killed.[/quote]
I respectfully disagree. Trump gave Alla his personal quote on her website, something I never saw him do before. Also, Alla showed herself to be creative, strong, smart and capable. Her reaction to Felisha won't harm her. Plus, it seems to me that Alla enjoys being an owner of her own business. Felisha is hoping to do business with her and I think Trump admires Alla's toughness.
BlueHerons
Dec 2, 2005 @ 2:20 pm
What made me insane is the way everyone said either "step up" or "the weakest link".
It grated on me even worse than when Maria and that other nincompoop from Season Two kept saying "take accountability".
icebird
Dec 2, 2005 @ 2:20 pm
Rebecca and Randal's video didn't blow you away, but it conveyed the information that needed to be conveyed: "What the heck is LiveMeeting, and why do I need it?" I got that I could use it for transferring large files, and for organizing a virtual meeting with people scattered to different locations.
To abuse a sports metaphor, Randal strikes me as your consumate line drive hitter. He might not give you a home run often, but you can count on him to get the singles and doubles. He's often take safe options in his tasks, but then executed them well. I think that approach rubbed off on Rebecca to an extent.
I think taking Rebecca outside to talk about the actor showed exactly what Randal's strengths are. He could see a problem, bring it to the PM's attention and develop a solution without creating conflict.
Alla and Felishia's video was all over the place - just like the team seemed to be all task. It looked horrible, presented too much information and didn't convey what the key strengths of the product were. When they were actually in the editing suite I thought they were going to come up with something cool; the end result was more like a bad power point with waaaaay too many flashy editing tricks. Sometimes less is more.
Alla has been a strong candidate but it was hard to feel much sympathy for her firing this episode.
Quiddler
Dec 2, 2005 @ 2:30 pm
What's really ironic, at Microsoft, the actual Redmond shrine, everyone dresses totaly casual, never in suits even when doing presentations.
You can always spot the new kid on the block: wearing pressed shirt, nice slacks, maybe even a tie. After a day or two, it's jeans, baggy pants, tees, sandals or loafers (no socks), backpacks, and so on.[/quote]However,
2ys4me, the difference here is that the MS execs were representing their company while appearing on national television. So, while not totally suited-and-tied, they did dress more formally than perhaps they do in their every day MS life. F&A <heh...she said 'effin A> should have taken a clue from how the execs dressed at the first meeting. While the MS execs weren't as formal as Trump (or R&R), they also weren't in beach picnic wear.
Dressing up for the client says, "We're serious people, and we take our jobs and your product seriously." Whereas dressing like 'effin' A? says "Who wants another hot dog?"
... and neither team could find OK actors? In NEW YORK CITY?!
... especially after Randall made a big deal about finding a LONG list of talent agencies and how long it took to call them all![/quote][/quote]
I think it's hard to find good actors on such short notice. If the actor is good, then you have to book him/her at least a few days in advance. (Because, if they're good? They're already booked on another gig.)
P.S. Alexis also says shut up, Alla. <snerk>
Edited because clarity? Is a thing devoutly to be wished...
musicguynj25
Dec 2, 2005 @ 2:34 pm
I'm pretty satisfied with this Final 2, but I wish Alla was allowed to make it to Top 3. I really think she would've impressed in the interview round. She's well spoken, doesn't lose her composure, doesn't use filler "ums" and "uhs", and comes off severely professional.
I wish Alla had explained to Trump that she CAN be led, but when it's a competent leader. Felicia had ZERO confidence going into the task, and second/third/fourth guessed herself at every turn. There's only so much you can take of that before you just throw your hands up and get the job done yourself. I can completely relate to Alla's frustration as I've been in that situation a number of times myself.
katiekaye
Dec 2, 2005 @ 2:39 pm
I'm pretty satisfied with this Final 2, but I wish Alla was allowed to make it to Top 3.[/quote]
Technically she was in the top 3.....for about 60 seconds there were 3 candidates remaining!
BlueHerons
Dec 2, 2005 @ 3:03 pm
The reward was for that very same day, right? Or at most, the day after? They couldn't have gotten the winners' SOs there in that short amount of time, which makes me think that all four special people were stashed somewhere in NYC, waiting to see who would actually get to go on the boat ride. For some reason, perhaps because I'm evil, I got a bit of sadistic glee thinking of whoever they brought for Alla sitting around, intense and cold just like her, all sure that he/she was going to see her, until the surprising news came... [/quote]
I think Randall is from Philly and Rebecca from Chicago so private jets could have both SOs there in a short time. I'm sure the Trump/Burnett organization had the family members on stand by.
highlander
Dec 2, 2005 @ 3:08 pm
Randal is from NJ.
Hamhock96
Dec 2, 2005 @ 3:13 pm
Was anyone else frankly expecting the Microsoft executive to mention F&A's outfits as innappropriate? It was so shocking and obviously bad how they dressed I expected someone to mention it.
[/quote]
I was so praying that Carolyn would mention it.
babyfrances
Dec 2, 2005 @ 3:12 pm
After Melania asked for spaghetti, I was dying for Trump to say, "you want spaghetti tonight? Now that's why restaurants have menus!"
BleuBelle
Dec 2, 2005 @ 3:17 pm
I think taking Rebecca outside to talk about the actor showed exactly what Randal's strengths are. He could see a problem, bring it to the PM's attention and develop a solution without creating conflict.[/quote]
Bingo...remember how he talked with Kristi about what problems he saw on the women's team (when they had brought him over)? He had her eating out of his hand, even admitting that "she could be XYZ". Likewise we saw him handle Rebecca very, very well. He has a calm, reassuring presence about him and while he might not be a 'look at me' or "I'm the BOSS" kind of employee, he's likely to be a very steady, hardworking one.
As for Felicia, she made a fatal mistake by letting Carolyn's comment get to her. Because of that (and excuse the sports terms) she played defensively -- and got negative/freaked out -- instead of coming from a powerful offensive plan that would have energized her. She was so focused on NOT LOSING that she couldn't work effectively to win...her brain was fried.
Yes, Alla might not be easy to manage, esp. in that situation, but I do think Felisha made things very hard by saying things like "OK, you'll direct BUT IF YOU DO THIS, I'LL XXXXXXX." Geez, how can one work with that kind of threat on you? No wonder Alla checked out.
Gingernut
Dec 2, 2005 @ 3:18 pm
How come Kelly and Kendra never get to sit in the big chair? They have as many fires on their plates and cliches in their bellies as BFBill.
Love the multifirings this season. They should show the auditions like in American Idol, with Trump dismissing people left and right for an hour.
The F4 Interview episodes always bugged me b/c the whole *season* is supposed to be an interview, so more interviews seemed redundant.
Adam should become George's apprentice. But first, he should be devirginized, not by Alla (picture it!), but wholesomely, like in Biloxi Blues. Or Almost Famous. Or even Deliverance. And Trump should pay.
jesus206
Dec 2, 2005 @ 3:25 pm
Trump was foolish to fire Alla for the drama reason in the finale. With Rebecca, there is not any hate factor. She doesn't make for a good villain and with the superior Randall on the other side, she can't be someone you would root for.
As far as Alla making fun of Felisha, it was a bit cold(what do you expect, it's Alla,heh) , but I don't feel sorry for Felisha. Felisha's behavior during the task was so annoying I would have walked out on her during the task. felisha should be ashamed of her behavior. I don't want such an insecure woman to work for me.
anacara
Dec 2, 2005 @ 3:37 pm
Gingernut said:
Adam should become George's apprentice. But first, he should be devirginized, not by Alla (picture it!), but wholesomely, like in Biloxi Blues. Or Almost Famous. Or even Deliverance. And Trump should pay.[/quote]
You know, The Hair totally would!
Akai
Dec 2, 2005 @ 3:38 pm
You know, one thing that I've questioned before in the back of my mind that the hideous "upscale Hooters" outfits Alla and Felisha wore brought to the forefront is how is it the Apprenti always seem to have matching clothes in every series? This is not the first time all the women on a team have dressed in the exact same shades before; and it wasn't even like they were both wearing white pants and orange tops (neither of which anyone will find in my wardrobe even if they paid me!), but the exact same *shade* of hideous orange, in equally inappropriate styles. Do the producers actually send a list of garments, colors and styles to each person before the series starts and instruct them to buy these awful clothes or is there just some kind of extremely strange synchronicity going on here?
nizzope
Dec 2, 2005 @ 3:51 pm
The topic is the episode.
tommytimp
Dec 2, 2005 @ 3:50 pm
Perhaps the two of them went to Barney's specifically for an occasion like this.
atlantis81
Dec 2, 2005 @ 3:54 pm
Not sure if this is where this goes... maybe I should put it in the speculation thread or something...
Anyone else notice (I think it was in the extended clips) that Carolyn and Trump kept contributing Excel's win to Randal when they were in the boardroom with Felisha and Alla? They kept saying "Randal had an advantage" and "Randal did (this)" and "Randal won because of (this)", etc. Rebecca's name wasn't even mentioned, IIRC, and I don't think they referred to "Excel", either.
Talk about an ouch. So much for Rebecca's win.
SpchProf
Dec 2, 2005 @ 4:02 pm
How come Kelly and Kendra never get to sit in the big chair?[/quote]
Well in my opinion, because they suck.
Akai
Dec 2, 2005 @ 4:03 pm
I must be the biggest idiot on this board, but despite all the *other* people asking where to find the extra footage on the Yahoo site, I can't seem to do it! I watched two or three things listed as "deleted footage" for this week's epi but they were all stuff we saw on the show last night! So, if someone could just fill me in on this supposed scene where other people besides Felisha cry? ....
Apologies again for being a moron.
atlantis81
Dec 2, 2005 @ 4:10 pm
Akai --
The deleted scenes and the uncut scenes are the things you're looking for... some of it is similar to what was aired but really is not actually what was aired.
Nobody else actually cries, they just talk about Felisha crying and say they may cry, too, and Trump asks somebody for a kleenex.
teladict
Dec 2, 2005 @ 4:14 pm
Trump was foolish to fire Alla for the drama reason in the finale. With Rebecca, there is not any hate factor. She doesn't make for a good villain and with the superior Randall on the other side, she can't be someone you would root for.[/quote]
I don't know, I think it will be nice for a change to have two candidates who aren't hateworthy.
Nutjob
Dec 2, 2005 @ 4:15 pm
He has a calm, reassuring presence about him and while he might not be a 'look at me' or "I'm the BOSS" kind of employee, he's likely to be a very steady, hardworking one.[/quote]
This is exactly why Randal would be great to work for, as well. He's the kind of person that, if you did work for them, you would do your best and work your hardest for them, because they show you respect and lead without being jerks. The way he dealt with Rebecca was awesome.
dawn2zs
Dec 2, 2005 @ 4:30 pm
Alla was so out of it in that presentation it was ridiculous! I think she purposefully chose to wear an outfit that was not only unprofessional, as Felisha's was, but also just really unbecoming on her. We all know she's got style (even if it's not stuff we'd wear ourselves) and she knows how to dress, so unless somebody else picked out her clothes and held a gun to her head that she HAD to wear what they told her, I can't believe she would ever wear that outfit unless she purposefully wanted to look bad. She also was totally slouching and had a sour puss face throughout the whole presentation.
And I'm surprised nobody mentioned this already, she had her total fem-bot moment when Trump asked her how she thought they'd done and she said in a completely monotone voice "I think we did a good job". It was the most unconvincing comment ever.
Someone else mentioned that Rebecca's boyfriend may have grown his hair out since the last time she saw him. I could totally see Rebecca being the type that would be embarrassed that he looked that way because she would think it would reflect poorly on her. The shock and then the "oh my god, I can't believe he's here looking like that... he could've gotten a hair cut!" could totally explain her hesitant reaction.
Booklord
Dec 2, 2005 @ 4:37 pm
Trump was foolish to fire Alla for the drama reason in the finale. With Rebecca, there is not any hate factor. She doesn't make for a good villain and with the superior Randall on the other side, she can't be someone you would root for.[/quote]
There's always the chance that Randall could blow the final task. ( Tana did ) I suspect that Trump decided he did not want to risk getting stuck with Alla. Rebecca may not be as skilled or capable as Alla but she does have a much more pleasant personality.
Fluffy Malone
Dec 2, 2005 @ 4:40 pm
This leads to speculation, crazy as it may seem, that Alla might have intentionally tanked this task. [/quote]
I think in this particular case it just doesn't fit strategy-wise. Because throwing the task then makes getting rid of Felicia her top priority, and I don't think she saw Felicia as her real competition. So she would really only be getting rid of a weaker candidate when, if they were to win, Randal could have possibly been fired and Alla may be overbearing but she's no dummy...she had to know he was her biggest competition.
Also, the fact that something like intentionally tanking the task even enters the candidates' heads is another reason I love the multiple firings. Trump took it right to the brink this time and I think he should scale back on how many he does in the future, but the candidates really need that uncertainty to make winning the focus. You don't want to sabotage anything or leave the PM hanging (Marshawn) because it's not as simple as the weakest person going home. The only way you can guarantee you won't get fired that week is by winning.
And then it forces hateful people like Ivana and Kristi, who focused more on singling out who should go home if they were to lose each week than on winning, to SHUT UP. Well, ok, only in an ideal world but maybe there would less bitching, at least.
I think it's hilarious, though, how in most of the other seasons you could think of one or two crazy people who you hoped would be back to "help" in the final task, but this time it's practically half the cast! Melissa, Markus, Clay, Toral, Kristi...
musichic2000
Dec 2, 2005 @ 4:46 pm
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evening
Dec 2, 2005 @ 4:51 pm
Its so obviously been Randall from the beginning - but I still would have liked to see an Alla/Randal finale... Alla may be hard to manage by a wimp, and was weak last night, but she blows Rebecca away in every aspect (except for some very tacky, expensive outfits!)
I'm in advertising - and Excel's commercial sucked! Very amatuerish. The Capital Edge one was SOOOO Microsoft - except for those little boxes of unreadable info. That choppy editing, with the words flying in is so Microsoft style - I'm surprised Alla didnt jump in with that. Then again, I've seen one too many Microsoft industry event/presentation, so am too familiar with their style.
Did anyone else catch Alla's jewelry boxes? She must have to ship some luggage. No way did her coat selection fit into that bag - let alone the rest...
fposte
Dec 2, 2005 @ 4:54 pm
I so wish Alla were a fictional character--I would absolutely adore her. She's Linda Fiorentino in The Final Seduction, Kathleen Turner in Body Heat, a strangely garbed blonde Dalek. But in real life, I don't think she's somebody who you can really work with--you'd have to wonder, with every meal invitation, whether you're a co-diner or the dish. (God knows what that makes her on the Trumpian menu.) Carolyn, George, Bill, the forgettables--you can work with all of them, which suggests Trump resists hiring people who will induce constant terror in their coworkers.
Somewhere, Clay is getting a TiVo-induced RSI from continually rewatching "Alla, sit!"
dawn2zs
Dec 2, 2005 @ 4:56 pm
For anyone still having trouble finding the uncut boardroom scene (which was awesome by the way), follow the above advice for www.yahoo.com and when you get to the apprentice page, go to Exclusive Video and then go to Boardroom Battles. The one where Trump asks for the Kleenex is the top row, middle column, entitled "Felisha: It's Getting Dirty (uncut)."
Hawkwild
Dec 2, 2005 @ 5:10 pm
I don't know, I think it will be nice for a change to have two candidates who aren't hateworthy. [/quote]
It would hearken back to the Bill/Kwame matchup. I find it much more entertaining to have two candidates I can root for instead of this good guy/bad guy nonsense.
Leave the bad behavior to the resurrected Apprentii.
She's Linda Fiorentino in The Final Seduction, [/quote]
Totally.
highlander
Dec 2, 2005 @ 5:15 pm
Except Kwame was charming, warm, had personality, fantastic dresser (loved his clothes) and had a true friendship with Troy that was wonderful to watch. Rebecca is not Kwame.
Now I'm remembering Kwame lending Troy his tie. awww.
katiekaye
Dec 2, 2005 @ 5:17 pm
Did anyone else catch Alla's jewelry boxes? She must have to ship some luggage. No way did her coat selection fit into that bag - let alone the rest... [/quote]
I figured those were Alla's bags they used in the "shoot" because they matched. I'm sure they bring WAY more stuff than can fit in one bag.
Princess Louie
Dec 2, 2005 @ 5:19 pm
I finally figured out last night that Alla is the girlfriend of the Russian mobsters on Law & Order - remember the two-parter where they killed the guy, shipped the hands to his relatives, and then slit the throats of the child witness, his mother and one of the D.A. staff? Just me? O....kay.
Seriously, Alla's biggest mistake last night was thinking that she could not be fired because of her track record was so good. She believed that the BR discussion would pick up where it left off before; namely, how weak Felisha was. But once Felisha started to fight back, Alla over-reacted. I think that was the first time her performance had ever been criticized, and she was unprepared for it.
Still, I think the fix was in from the beginning. Alla did much better than anyone would have thought at the time, just from reading her resume. There was no way Trump was ever going to hire her, whether or not he knew about her past. Rebecca and Randal are the closest things to Kwame and Bill, which was the glory season of TA. The only difference is that back then I thought both guys had an equal chance to win. This time it's Randal, clearly and unequivocally.
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