He's one of the first people on a reality show who I honestly felt was just being themselves and not trying to give the cameras something to work with. He just seems so "real."[/quote]
Yes, Randal is real, down to earth, and a true gentleman. You can tell he is a wonderful husband and a good person. I like him much better than Bill. I hope he is the only winner on Dec. 15th. If Trump wants to hire Rebecca way after the way he did Andy, then that's Trumps business but I think Randal should be the sole winner. By the way, I was happy that Andy was hired after because I really liked him. Rebecca-blech.
theBadge
Dec 2, 2005 @ 2:59 am
Lurker here... had to come out for this episode.
First off, I love Trump. At least when he's not in Yelling Mode. Seeing him on Letterman or what have you, you get the feeling that he's just a regular guy. And you saw a bit of it in the phone call with Melania, which cracked me up. He couldn't keep a straight face! He was in on the joke! That wasn't creepy, that was great!
I'm pretty sure that there wasn't a "down" when TD told Alla to "Sit." Just "Alla, sit." Not "Sit down." And the way he said it, too -- just like you'd say to a dog (er, bitch?). Vicious, but oh-so-well-deserved.
I was actually kind of surprised when Trump fired Felicia. He and the viceroys were hitting so hard on Alla that I thought for sure she would be the one fired, even despite Felicia's crying. I'm not a crier like other people upthread, but I totally sympathized with her, and I felt that TD and Co. did too because Alla was just being a bitch from hell.
Randal was cute with his wife. Didn't he say something about how they had been married for less than a year? So we were definitely seeing some of their newlywed bliss... probably the first time they'd been separated for so long since they got married.
Rebecca with her boyfriend, yeah, that was definitely kind of weird, but others have posited plausible explanations (dislike of PDF, only been going out for a short time) so I won't harp on it. But it seemed especially weird when contrasted with Randal's joyous reunion with his wife. I think that really she's just not very excitable. She doesn't seem like the jump-up-and-down type. I have a lot more to say about Rebecca, since I had a class with her at the U of C, but that can go in the Rebecca thread. I am very pleased that she's reached the final 2.
Also, a few words about the quality of the commercials the teams produced for Microsoft. Obviously A&F's commercial sucked. Way too much very small text flying by at high speeds. And basically no high-level explanation of what the product did or why somebody would want it. MS has a running visual theme with their current commercials (e.g. the one that aired during the show), which ironically fits pretty well visually with A&F's commercial, but at no point does MS throw that much information at the viewer in such a short span. And of course A&F's outfits at the presentation were just awful.
R&R's commercial, while not perfect, was still pretty good. They hit on the major points of functionality in a way that anybody can understand (something like "Meet with others no matter where they are" and "collaboratively edit documents in real time instead of e-mailing it back and forth like idiots"). Throw in some higher production values and tone down the acting a bit, and you'd have something that might actually air on TV. And by "higher production values" I mean get rid of the aspects that make it seem "amateurish" as others have dubbed it here. I think this is mostly an effect of the camera/post-processing and the lighting on the set.
It's funny how "creative" tasks like this really backfire on people. Last year's cucumber pr0n and jogger-bodywash commercials were just stupid... smart people saying "Hey let's be really creative about this!" while the winning commercials this year basically played it safe. The losers always take more creative risks... usually in a misguided effort to be "creative" rather than focusing on the task or good taste. It was also the case with the music task a few episodes back. The Felicia/Alla/Adam song was fairly bland, but it was completely nonoffensive and hard to actively dislike, and it fit squarely within the boundaries of the station's programming. The Rebecca/Randal/Clay song took more risks, and might have been better in some ways, but it missed the target audience. They pushed the boundaries and ended up outside of them.
Basically, there's a reason why "creative professionals" even exist. You don't have programmers designing websites or engineers creating car brochures or sales execs writing ad copy. Everybody likes to think that they're creative, but few people truly are capable of being creative while working within the framework of acceptability and good taste. (Disclaimer: I'm not a creative professional by any means, although I have my share of pretensions.)
So, if you're ever on the Apprentice and you're given a task to produce a commercial, a song, or an ad campaign, play it safe and produce something relatively bland and clichéd while letting the other team self-implode with something so "creative" that it misses the mark completely.
Sorry, that "creative" rant has been building up for a couple of seasons now. Thanks for your time.
Divagalore
Dec 2, 2005 @ 3:08 am
Reguardless of what ethinicity Randall is, he could had been white or asian or cuban..he is just the right person to win. It is just so happened that the best person out of the 16 is Randall who is a hard worker, a clever business man with a heart of gold and someone who you can trust and motivate you and depend on to be there for you unlike Alla.. All I am saying is please don't say he is getting hired because he is black or that it was set up for him to win..that is so not it. [/quote]
Amen! I will literally be pissed if there is a double hiring. Most recently it started to cross my mind that Randal might make it to the final 2, once I saw that he was one of the stronger candidates. I just assumed it would possibly be Alla as his competitor(or another strong contestant). But once I found out about her "past" I knew she didn't have a real shot a being hired. So, IMO, Randal is the better qualified between himself and Rebecca. Trump somehow seems smitten with Rebecca because he has continued to praise her and give her multiple chances even though she hasn't performed that well. I've also noticed the speculations that Randal couldn't possibly win this thing on his own merit, when he has proven time and again from his performances as well as his credentials that he's just as deserving as any previous winner. Sadly, in some people's minds unless you're a white male...there has to be a catch to you getting the job. Very sad..
polka dots
Dec 2, 2005 @ 3:11 am
For someone who's supposedly "strong" and "tough," Alla sure is a passive-aggressive whiner. Her cabterview reeked of passive-aggressive bullshit. "
Some people say I'm a challenge to lead. Maybe
they are the ones who are weak." Gee, Alla. I wonder who "some people" and "they" are. At least Marshawn had the balls to say Brian's name.
Boy, that Melania is a lucky lady. Sex with The Hair AND spaghetti?!?! What a man.[/quote]
Seriously, she is so lucky that she has Trump. I mean, wow. God, Trump is an ass. Still amuses me though, so it's okay.
Geez. They don’t do professional dress all that much, do they?[/quote]
It was a half-assed attempt to pull a Sandy/Jen from Season 2. Problem is, Felisha is cute not hot and Alla is just plain fugly. Seriously, Alla looked like shit in the presentation. Her clothes seemed too big for her, she didn't appear to have any makeup on, she looked washed out, and was it just me or did she look like she was slouching? (Although the too-big clothes might've just made it look like she was slouching.) I know they stayed up all night to put together the video but it only takes ten minutes to find clothes that fit and put on some eyeshadow and lipstick.
While it may have been a bit boring, I liked how R&R wore matching professional suits. Very snazzy. Very
Mr. & Mrs. Smith.
Production wise R & R's presentation didn't look that great, but it was clear, it told a story, and it showcased the product. [/quote]
ITA. Sure, the production was crappy but I never exactly expect these people to create a brilliant masterpiece in the time they're given. Yet, R&R's ad made me want to find out more about the product. A&F's ad reminded me of the power point lectures I fell asleep in when I was in college.
Okay, so Felisha's more than a bit naive not to see Alla for who she is[/quote]
It's her naitivity (tm Felisha).
Does Rebecca deserve final two? Probably not, but you know what. I like her. She won't win but I'm shallow and I'd rather have somebody I like in the final two than somebody I don't like. I'm comfortable with this final two.[/quote]
You know what? ITA with you,
msrayrudd. I completely realize though that Randal vs. Alla would be a more fair match and there would at least be a tiny bit of suspense as to who would win. But I have a strange, inexplicable thing for Rebecca.
Randal and Rebecca are a dynamite team. I LOVE watching these two together. They just look good together and I'd LOVE for the big surprise to be that Trump hires them both. I know Rebecca is unpopular here, but I've liked her from the beginning and still do.[/quote]
I really like how R&R work together. They're very professional and have a comfortable camaraderie between them. Even after Rebecca (unintentionally?) implied Randal was a slacker in the BR, he got past that, didn't let it affect their work, and went on to work really hard for himself AND for Rebecca. I really liked that he said that he wanted to get a win for her and that she deserved it. Randal is such an awesome guy who totally deserves to take this whole thing home. Nice guys do finish first! He also stepped up to the plate with fire in his belly, thought outside the box and hit it out of the park.
Loved when the four were headed to the pre-task dinner and Rebecca said "Let's go do this.". Rebecca attacks dinner! [tm Jacob]. [/quote]
Hee! Intense!Rebecca is so fun to watch. It won't be fun to watch her lose the final task (as she inevitably will) but it'll be fun to watch her in the final BR as she just triple-dog dares Trump to not hire her.
It bothered me that when the professional told them they had too much, he sounded so unhelpful- never encouraged them to cut hard and keep the original script idea, which did have a story line, just said, it's way too long. [/quote]
I think these professionals who do all the grunt work of the task aren't allowed to give the contestants any input. Imagine how unfair that would be if one team got a "better" professional than the other. Frankly, I'm even surprised that he bothered to tell them that what they had was too long.
P.S. Alexis sends her love. [/quote]
Okay, you guys are starting to drive me crazy. But I'm willing to suck it up and ask the stupid question - What the hell does this mean?
dekko
Dec 2, 2005 @ 3:24 am
This may have been something I misheard, but did anyone else happen to catch this exchange in the boardroom, showing exactly how over-defensive and prepared for any questioning of her brilliance Alla was?
Felicia: (being asked about Alla's performace) Alla is a very creative person--
Alla: That's not true!
It was a weird, what-the-hell? moment, where Alla was ready to jump, even though Felicia was still on the bread part of her compliment sandwich.
Insomniac
Dec 2, 2005 @ 3:33 am
I'm pretty sure that there wasn't a "down" when TD told Alla to "Sit." Just "Alla, sit." Not "Sit down." And the way he said it, too -- just like you'd say to a dog (er, bitch?).[/quote]
That's also what I heard and it was fan-fucking-tastic. Get her tail between her legs.
Why is it that Alla attempted a mind fuck and I had the brain orgasm? Damn, that was good.
I think a Rebecca/Randal finish was orchestrated because of the audience hatred for Tana last season. Trump might be trying to bring in two more similar people. Divide the audience. Get people to tune in and cheer. He seems to see both as honorable, capable, etc. Neither have shown tremendous creativity, though I don't thing that's what TA requires. Business. Ability to work/deal with people.
It will be disheartening to see them duke it out, if it deteriorates into an attack. I don't think Randal is capable of an all out assault. (See Alla.) Don't know about Rebecca.
While I think a double hire would deny the victor (Randal) a moment of glory, ultimately they would work separately...both would be offered different opportunities, though I don't see either salivating over the prospect of working on Miss Whatever Beauty Pageant.
Brinswan
Dec 2, 2005 @ 3:38 am
I watched the "Rebecca and Randal are greeted by their SOs" segment several times just now, and it looked like Zahara and boyfriend were somehow standing behind Rebecca (then how did Randal see them? No idea) and he said "Hi sweetie" and it took her by surprise. I don't think she didn't recognize him, it seems she was just really shocked and it took her a few seconds to compose herself.
And, well I am royally pissed Alla was canned. And I actually wasn't too bothered by what she said about Felicia. I think she does have caring feelings for her but she was bothered by her blubbering. I got the impression that she herself has been through a lot, and therefore sort of feels bothered when other people cry about all the horrible things they've been through. She would have given Randall a real run for his money. And in Trump's world, there is no room for strippers, just the men who hire them. Uhh, not that Randall is like that.
Edited because I spelled "sweetie" as "sweety" and it just looked like sweaty which reminded me of schwetty balls, oh nevermind.
ghettofabman
Dec 2, 2005 @ 4:49 am
I too did not see this coming. But if you think about it, it is a 13 week "job interview," and this was week 11. If you think about it, week 13 would be the finale, which would make week 12 for the final two.[/quote]
The one thing I wonder is did any of the final four figure this out beforehand? Surely one of the four of them should have put two and two together and figured that one last double firing was gonna occur!
Wallyhorse
Dec 2, 2005 @ 4:56 am
The one thing I wonder is did any of the final four figure this out beforehand? Surely one of the four of them should have put two and two together and figured that one last double firing was gonna occur![/quote]
I don't think so, mainly because when the first two versions aired, that was the interview point, and likely would have been in Apprentice 3 if Verna had not quit.
I'm guessing they were assuming week 12 was the interviews and week 13 was the final task.
MartyBru01
Dec 2, 2005 @ 5:13 am
Looks like Grump (TM
solitare) and Co. went straight for Alla's throat the second she sat down. I can't say I was dissapointed by this double cobra, but I'm about ready for this season to end, and Alla was a bitch. Gah, I can't imagine if there were FIVE EXTRA WEEKS of this show! Ugh.
Anyway, ITA about the double-hiring. Randall will make a great executive, and Rebecca will make a great apprentice: young, malleable, blood-thirsty.
My favorite moments were pretty much Rebecca related.
- Her fierce looking up and down at the Bloven at dinner.
- The fact that she was talking about how she would have loved to have dinner with her boyfriend and the producers called her bluff. In her mind, a husband is just one more rung in the ladder. SHE RULES!
Does she remind anyone else of Nina Myers (of 24 fame)? I could totally see her planting her mole Jamie (Toral) as part of Randall's team, crippling the team and sabotaging left and right. I just wish we could have seen RebeccNina (NinaBecca?) without the crutches.
Good luck R&R!
stopeslite
Dec 2, 2005 @ 5:17 am
I really like how R&R work together. [/quote]
I was just wondering - how long have they been together, again? Because Randal's saved Rebecca's ass quite a few times now, and in such a subtle and nice manner that I don't think even she realizes how important he's been to her (such as the call-out and lead to the actor's firing in this ep.) I think that without him, she may well crumble halfway through the final task, which would be beautiful to witness.
mertensia
Dec 2, 2005 @ 5:29 am
Okay, the double firing caught me off guard.
My sister couldn't stop laughing at the female Microsoft's expression during Alla & Felisha's ad.
Alla & Felisha's ad reminded me of the beginning of a computer tutorial.
hapless
Dec 2, 2005 @ 6:14 am
polka dots Go to the Martha Stewart Apprentice thread. It's Martha's PS in the letter to the last firee, Leslie.
Which leads me to the DTs final surprise. A double hire, Randall for DT and Rebecca for Martha. Her finalist all totally suck and she will have to pick a loser from a bunch of losers. That would be a great twist!
F & A commercial besides being to wordy and sped up, the colors of the background were unprofessional. It was like Barbie clothes colors. Also, it seemed to promote a product for business people that are incompetent. If you identify yourself as a competent business person, you wouldn't buy this product.
R&R video made sense although amateurish considering the short time they had. That's what I think Carolyn meant. "It's good. How much time did you spend on it?" Although she did not use these exact words.
(And by the way, how long does it take to 'load a big file'?? I thought now we have DSL and Ethernet and so on that stuff just kind of swooped around the world. I don't know what would be considered a big file, but it takes around 10 seconds to send a 1 MB file from my computer. But maybe that's not a big enough file... [/quote]
Some email servers limit the size of attachments. Usually 10MB size files, so a large Powerpoint (these eat up the MB) file would be a bother. A small company usually does have email systems with out file large capacity. I'm sure MS workers have unlimited file sizes.
I always knew it was Randall and Rebecca as the final 2.
Scorched Earth
Dec 2, 2005 @ 7:00 am
I have a theory that the double firing was orchestrated simply so that Trump could have that dramatic walk down the hall at the very end of the episode. And I'm sure it was a yooge success. Crushed all the other Hall-Related Walks in the timeslot, y'know. Maybe it'll lead to some sort of Apprentice/Project Runway crossover, like "Task 3: Design a hat for Donald Trump to model on the runway. A hair hat. A hair hat made entirely out of gold."
...God I hope not.
PS. Why haven't any of the post-Season 1 Apprentii displayed any notable creativity? Remember those phallic private jet print ads from the first season? Those were so well done. If I recall, the woman responsible for the idea turned out to be batshit, and I'd still hire her over most of the recent contestant.
i miss katy
Dec 2, 2005 @ 7:07 am
I have to think these multiple firings are preordained. Think about it. The show lines up Big-Time corporate sponsors for every task. Surely these are arranged well in advance, and are very, very difficult to back out of. This isn't just a 60 second commercial that you can make up for by airing it another time. This is a 60 MINUTE product placement in network prime time. That's an irreplaceable promotion, and I bet the companies would bitch up and bitch down if told that their episode had been scrapped because Trump was feeling frisky and fired an extra person. I'd bet that Burnett and Trump planned on a massive firing a la The Bloodbath before the season, which could be anywhere from 3 to 6 people, whenever the opportunity arose. They also planned to scrap the boring, boring, boring interview segment (Enjoy job interviews? Then you'll love watching job interviews!) by firing the losing 2-on-2 team. Sorry, but this was all in place from the start.
MartyBru01
Dec 2, 2005 @ 7:29 am
It's too bad that, as far as I can tell, there's no interview round, which usually was my favorite part. Interviews seems like the most realistic real-world situation the show offers [how great would a Jon Favreau interview have been?]. And it's nice watching these people do something they (usually) have plenty of experience with - job interviews!
I wonder if the multiple BR bloodbaths have anything to do with the declining ratings. TA's slide in ratings might have caused a handful of sponsors to pull out. This season was probably in pre-production as S2 was wrapping up or S3 was airing. Less sponsors means less episodes with expensive corproate sponsorshop means semi-automatic finger gun!
Modacious
Dec 2, 2005 @ 7:32 am
During the later parts of the show, I saw the actual Microsoft commercial with a table in the woods. Sorry, I didn't see any creativity there either. My husband turned to me and said that sucked like the other two.
After I told my husband a few weeks ago that Alla was a former stripper, he kept saying "Trump won't hire her". All through this episode, without even watching the episode, he kept saying Trump was firing the "stripper". Turns out I don't even have to watch with my husband around! As with everyone else, I squealed when he told Alla to sit down.
From the last shot, when Trump entered the apartment, I saw Randall in the hall, dressed in a white dress shirt, standing in the background. Can't wait to see his surprise.
tone
Dec 2, 2005 @ 7:41 am
I would have loved them to let Alla leave and go back to the suite, then show The D doing the slo-mo walk to the door, enter, and say 'oh, and Alla, you left before I had the chance to tell you.... YOU'RE FIRED, TOO!"[/quote]Oh, that would have been great. One can hope for a firing like this next season.
I didn't get drunk last night because Bill didn't anything cliché-ish.
A bit OT here: When quad firing happened, how did they end that show? I vaguely recall just a shot of the door.
IowaCherryPie
Dec 2, 2005 @ 7:55 am
Did anyone notice that Felisha's hair was pulled back into a ratty ponytail during their presentation to Microsoft, but when they called the teams back in to announce the winner, her hair was down and styled? It's odd - they make it look like it all happens the same day, but maybe it doesn't. And my feeling is this, while you were fixing your hair, why didn't you also change your cabana outfit and hide your bra straps!
p.s. Alla, Alexis tells you to sit also
fangums
Dec 2, 2005 @ 8:25 am
Good golly my 6th grader does better PowerPoint presentations than that video.
I don't usually bother watching the rewards on the first viewing, so I was fast-forwarding, glancing up occasionally to see if it was over and what do I see but Randall kissing Rebecca! You can bet I rewound right fast to see what that was about. Thank goodness I did, though, or I wouldn't have gotten to see Randall tee-hee'ing about seeing his wife.
I'm so conflicted about Randall. Obviously he's the best there and deserves good things, but is being stuck away in a basement office a good thing, really? I don't want him to lose but winning just doesn't seem all that. On the other hand, Randall is the only Apprentice I can see making something real out of the opportunity, rather than being a Trump photo-op.
Jacob
Dec 2, 2005 @ 8:28 am
You can't settle the affirmative action debate on a television website forum. Please stop trying.
If it's about how appalled you are that "people" think Randal's a ringer, stow it. If it's about the show, go ahead.
Caldora
Dec 2, 2005 @ 8:38 am
ITA with all the posters who have reamed Alla and Felisha for their unprofessional appearance at the presentation. To me, they lost the task right then and there. I was horrified at how thrown together and sloppy they looked. I am astounded that this was never mentioned in the board room (of course, it might have been cut). What WERE they thinking dressing like that? WHEN would that sort of outfit EVER be appropriate. CLEARLY they planned it - I wish we could have been privy to the conversation about it.
edited because clearly I cannot spell...
pdxsteve
Dec 2, 2005 @ 8:45 am
I think she got thrown off with how fast Donald came at her ("Bill said you were difficult to work with..."). I'm sure she expected that he would turn on Felisha right away because she was PM. I think Alla's boardroom performance was panic whereas Felisha was more pulled together (until the !#%*!#ing crying) than she had been all episode.[/quote]
ITA. I think Felisha went into the BR with the mindset that she'd be fired, so she was mentally prepared for it. Alla, on the other hand, thought she would sail through and, when Trump attacked her from the beginning, she went into panic mode, lost her train of thought, and dug her own grave.
bahamarita
Dec 2, 2005 @ 8:49 am
That Alla was some kinda smug walking into that boardroom. Loved seeing Carolyn and Donald pair up for the smackdown of Alla. Personally, I thought Alla was awesome up until tonight. She is some kind of steamroller, my-way-or-the-highway kinda gal. Makes me wonder about her stripping days...someone pays for a lap dance and she's all, "NO, it will be pole dance or no dance"?
I felt bad for Felisha, in a way...I get her crying...it's not upset crying, it's anger and frustration crying...I know because I have that same affliction. It's not weakness, it's us trying to hold in the bitch slap that someone so richly deserves.
Let me tell you, if I was Rebecca or Randal standing there and TD walked in instead of Alla or Felisha, I'd shit a cat. No one needs to have TD in their personal space, even if he owns that personal space. He's such a tool.
nubbs
Dec 2, 2005 @ 8:48 am
Personally, now that they've shown Trump swearing, in retrospect I would have liked to hear 'Alla, sit the fuck down.' Too much to hope for, but I would have cried tears of joy.
I'll chime in with the 'What the hell?' on Alla and Felicia's attire in the boardroom. They looked terrible.
But then again, maybe they looked at Sonny Crocket and figured that how they looked didn't matter.
I really wished they'd shown the 'actor' gets fired scene. Poor guy, probably thought this was his big break and he gets hoofed after one scene. Back to Starbucks, young man!
ellisbell
Dec 2, 2005 @ 8:49 am
Is it possible Rebecca is nearsighted and literally didn't recognize her boyfriend?
bahamarita
Dec 2, 2005 @ 8:52 am
Is it possible Rebecca is nearsighted and literally didn't recognize her boyfriend?[/quote]
I don't know...if my boyfriend hadn't had a haircut in about forever and was wearing 2 different plaids, I might not "recognize" him either.
He looked like some kind of Monchichi test pattern. Seemed nice, but needs someone to dress him.
PinkyTuscadero
Dec 2, 2005 @ 8:59 am
Rebecca has mad boardroom skills. She managed to defend Toral in the third ep, and impress Trump with her loyalty. Then in the fourth ep toral flopped badly and Rebecca impressed Trump with her honesty. Now she has her first victory as a project manager. She'll give Randall a run for his money, though I think Randall will win.[/quote]
I'm starting to think that whole "loyalty" claim was a complete lie to justify keeping Rebecca in the competition. How many times have we seen candidates give their friends a pass only to get fired? Ereka and Katrina, Chris and Mark from this season, etc. In the next boardroom Rebecca didn't have a choice but to tell Trump Toral was a joke. She couldn't keep defending her. There have been at least 2 tasks where Rebecca deserved to be fired but was "saved" because someone less popular "had to go."
PittsburghDiva
Dec 2, 2005 @ 9:01 am
So happy to see her go - her voice grated on my nerves.[/quote]
Thank you! Her whiskey-voice was annoying- did she think she was the Russian Demi-Moore? Also, her inability to pronounce "r's" got on my nerves.
ETA:
I don't know...if my boyfriend hadn't had a haircut in about forever and was wearing 2 different plaids, I might not "recognize" him either.
He looked like some kind of Monchichi test pattern. Seemed nice, but needs someone to dress him.[/quote]
BWAH!
nubbs
Dec 2, 2005 @ 9:01 am
Is it possible Rebecca is nearsighted and literally didn't recognize her boyfriend? [/quote]
I think it's more likely she did recognize him and thought 'Damn, who ever thought I'd use the word 'frumpy' to describe a man, let alone my boyfriend? Maybe if I pretend not to recognize him, and claim I hit my head on the ice, he'll just go away and take that shitass plaid with him.'
Cockapoo2
Dec 2, 2005 @ 9:11 am
When Felisha was talking about the text being Alla's idea -- and Alla said, "shame on you, Felisha!"[/quote] I couldn't believe Alla said that, complete with head shake, and chuckle, but Alla is a terrible liar so it was quite obvious she was making things up at that point.
Did anyone else get the feeling that Rebecca had dumped that guy before going on the show or something and was totally embarrassed to have him show up?
[/quote]Bingo, that's exactly what it seemed like.
I don't know...if my boyfriend hadn't had a haircut in about forever and was wearing 2 different plaids, I might not "recognize" him either[/quote]
HEE.
highlander
Dec 2, 2005 @ 9:19 am
Is it possible Rebecca is nearsighted and literally didn't recognize her boyfriend? [/quote]
I thought Rebecca was thinking more on the lines of "Damn, now that I am on national TV and maybe winning this thing, who knows how many better boyfriends I will get and I didn't need the show to actually bring my boyfriend on when I was planning to say I am available when I met some more guys that are better." If that is Rebecca in love, then contrast that to Randal's all giddy in seeing his wife. Not a good thing. Rebecca had not broken up with him because she mentions him in her interview when the final four were having dinner. I think she just did not want him brought on the boat or be seen on TV.
RevLovejoy
Dec 2, 2005 @ 9:28 am
NEW YORK (AP) - December 1 - REAL ESTATE MOGUL HURT IN RAIL MISHAP
Self professed New York legend Donald Trump was injured late last night when he violently fell off a train on which he was the charter passenger. The train, Alla Love, a Russian made vessel, was cruising at a very high rate of speed, when it began to veer out of control in what engineers described as it's "built in defense mechanism". Trump was very fond of this train, according to observers, as he was known to have a weakness for Eastern European machinery. The first EMT on the scene descibed the extent of The Donald's injuries as follows: "It's truly remarkable he wasn't hurt seriously. It appears he was wearing some kind of orange colored headgear which in all probability saved his life." Trump did release a statement through his doctors, stating "As much as I loved the train, it was time to get off, and I couldn't run the risk that it would make it to Trump Plaza and casue any future embarassment, since it had a questionable past. My one regret is that I never got to have a good full inspection of the train's caboose, which I had heard was sepctacular and yooge." Mr. Trump is expected to make a full recovery, though it is uncertain if the headgear can ever be replaced.
coaster
Dec 2, 2005 @ 9:31 am
My take on Rebecca's reaction to her boyfriend was: Oh my god, they actually found the guy from the photo that came with my wallet, that I gave the producers to pretend I do have a personal life. Now, what the hell did I say his name was?
Randall: "I would have been vexed." Who says VEXED? More people should! That's awesome!
Thanks, polka dots, I was wondering about Alexis too.
Randall was right for telling Rebecca not to freak out over Carolyn's question, because there was no time to make any changes to anything at that point, but really - didn't that seem like a negative question? Either "it looks like you just threw that together" or "how much time did you waste on THAT piece of crap?" The only other meaning I'd ever get from that question would be "that's amazing - it must have taken you forever" and I would never think that would apply in this case.
I know this "13 week job interview" doesn't take 13 weeks in real time, but shouldn't Rebecca be out of her cast by now?
One nice thing about Alla: pretty hair barrettes.
natashapierre
Dec 2, 2005 @ 9:45 am
Both videos sucked, I guess Excel's sucked less, but personally I thought both were just as good as the other.
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They sucked in different ways, I thought, although both had an amateurish-clunky quality. They shared that, although that's pretty understandable, given the short time they had to do them yadda yadda. But one was too little information, too slow, too boring, too obvious, too much of a not very interesting story, too little going on on the screen, and the other was too much information, too jangly, not enough story, moved too fast.... That makes it hard to choose between them. ... Of course, the *real* livemeeting commercial had a little of both those faults (though I thought it looked more like the Capital Edge version ...) plus had that weird fantasy element thrown in that so many computer companies seem to stress -- and which always just confuses me more about the product ... I don't know which of the *three* commercials I would have chosen. THey were all mediocre in different ways. But the real advertisers had a lot less excuse. I bet they didn't have to create their effort with a staff of two and a timeline of two days from now.
And this is completely random, but is anyone else sick of hearing people in the boardroom insist that they can do something or that they don't have some flaw when ALL evidence points in the opposite direction? Like when The Donald says to someone "You're a terrible leader" after they've completely lost control and they respond with "Mr. Trump, I'm a great leader"? [/quote]
Totally. But what I'm even more sick of is that all of them do it all the time and it somehow counts as great "boardroom strategy." .... When it's actually more like acting delusional. .. Of course, they're seeking a job with a delusional boss, so I suppose that's appropriate. Who does Trump think he's kidding with that family crap? And Melania better watch out, spaghetti or no spaghettic, because he's obviously got his eye on her successor -- Rebecca. Luckily for her, I think she's probably too smart to fall for that.
EDIT: Could it be possible that Rebecca's facial expression when seeing her boyfriend was an "Oh my God, this isn't my boyfriend. This is the guy I had a fling with that my boyfriend doesn't know about!" expression?
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No, because I don't think she would have gotten drunk enough to have a fling with that guy.
Hamhock96
Dec 2, 2005 @ 9:46 am
Alla, shame on you, dahlink! Now you can get back to looking for "moose and squir-rel."
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God, that was funny! As to girl on girl love, not only the hug at the start, but the looks and body language in the cab at the end. Felisha is really in love with Alla! It's weird, all right.
Someone mentioned that Rebecca was surprised at boyfriend; Randall, if you watch the re-play, notices his wife while she is still on the dock and responds, so that when the two get to the boat, with his wife in the rear of Rebecca's Matt, he is prepared. Rebecca was totally taken by surprise. Anyone notice that Randall's wife is as tall as he is? Formidable couple, those two.
Polka Dots, Coaster, what you're missing by not watching TA:Martha!
musichic2000
Dec 2, 2005 @ 9:52 am
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Newcreation
Dec 2, 2005 @ 9:50 am
Actually I'm not sure why Alla's team mucked this up so much. It was a film task promoting a product. It came down to the "money shot". We all know Alla has experience at delivering the "money shot".
I don't believe Randal's hiring is any reflection of "Affirmative Action". I believe Randal is deserving of where he is now in the F2 and if he wins, is as deserving as any of the past winners. I believe it is unfair to suggest that his hiring is because of quota instead of qualification.
I also believe that a double hiring would demean and dimenish a Randal hiring.
Said about Rebecca:
She's more fembot-y than Jenn M. ever was.[/quote]
But Jenn M. made that fembot persona sexy. Not so much with Rebecca.
Kabelvision
Dec 2, 2005 @ 9:51 am
Oh well, everything need to be said are said already.
My only comment is on Trump praising Micro$oft and M$ Office:
Go OpenOffice! Go Open Source!
RhondaGC
Dec 2, 2005 @ 9:55 am
Write me down as one who totally didn't see that double-firing coming either. In fact, right before it happened I was thinking of how boring the episode was. First of all, it was telegraphed from moment one that the family members of the winners would be joining them on the task, so that didn't shock at all. Then there was a fairly boring task, the same type that has been done dozens of times, and then it was pretty clear Felisha was going to be fired, despite the fact that Alla was taking a beating in the BR. I mean, I was practically yawning when Felisha was fired and thinking, "Why did I bother to watch this week, anyway? I knew in the first 5 minutes what would happen." And then. "Sit down, Alla." Woah! I knew right then something bad was going down. So awesome. Totally redeemed the entire episode for me.
Wasn't sorry to see Alla go after tonight. She's very talented, very creative and very tough. But Bill hit it right on the head when he said "Felisha can't lead and Alla can't be lead." Exactly. If she's not in charge she doesn't want to contribute anything. She thinks she's the only one with good ideas and so won't work to implement anyone else's. And, granted, she generally was the one coming up with good ideas on her team, but still.
What do you guys think? Was he planning to fire them both at the outset? Eg, move into the final two regardless of the outcome? [/quote]
I, also, am very curious about how this came about. What if Rebecca and Randall had ended up in the BR? I doubt he would have fired both of them. I think he would have had a hard time firing either, although I'm guessing Rebecca would have gone. But I think that double firing had to be something they decided on after seeing the task. Maybe the interviews were tentatively planned, but were something that could be easily cancelled (unlike the tasks which are usually planned well-ahead of time and involve contracts and such). I actually don't mind skipping right over the interviews considering last time we saw all of about 2 minutes' worth of them.
What is Donalds'. Big. Surprise. in the next episode going to be? My guess is he brings back not only members from this season to help on tasks but also Omarosa and other season 1-3 meddlers.
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