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lstyd

I truly don't get why Marshawn didn't present. Is it as simple as she sensed their display was really shitty and she thought she could fly under the radar when they lost if she wasn't the one who presented? Because otherwise, I just don't understand. I could understand more if she pushed Randal as the presenter since he knew about Star Wars but Brian? [/quote]

I guess in the end, it was going to be dispaly vs. presentation and Marshawn knew this... She just wanted to save her butt. But it backfired and there was no way she could explain this strategy.

It takes more than 15 minutes to get to the bathroom in Manhattan!!! LOL
stopeslite
I'm still loving the suggestion of a NEL boardroom with Trump taking away the suitcases. Can you imagine Alla's mood if she had to go a few days in the same outfit?

I also wondered why Brian didn't get the hell out of the cab and run for it. Didn't he say at one point that they were just a couple of blocks away? I know city blocks are really long, but still, it would have looked like an effort to get there on time.
The Palace Worm

Also? What does Felicia do? She doesn't bug as much with Kristi gone but I still can't figure out what she...does.

And how excited do you think Adam was that he got to dress up like a Jedi?[/quote]

Well, she got to dress up as Senator Amidala in this episode! And if that isn't contribution, then I don't know what is! It's too hilarious when you think about it. If one of the execs asked her why she chose to dress up as a character, she'd be like, "Um, who am I supposed to be here?"

Adam! "Um, you guys? The Dark Side is, you know, bad and stuff. It's evil. Like sex."

Perhaps Brian would have made a good Yoda?
Rowr17

The reward of a day with Bill: I don't really mind the guy, but that wasn't much of reward considering how TA hypes itself. Of course, it could have been a day with Trump himself or... Martha Stewart, eating your breakfast :)[/quote] Or walking around Martha's ugly ass house in the Hamptons looking a bunch of dead fish.

Apparently MB cut the reward funds or something. Poor little Apprenti.
catrina

"And Excel, your reward is NOT having to spend the day with Rancic in an unfinished building".[/quote]

That reminds me of a joke.

Trump: Capital Edge as the winning team you get a one hour tour of my unfinished Building.

And Excel, as the losing team you get a two-hour tour of my unfinished building.

Didn't a former "meet Bill Ranic" reward at least include dinner or breakfast?"
pogo

Were the Editors comparing the Aprentai to Star Wars characters? I was only barely paying attention, but when they showed Chewbacca, then showed a side view of Rebecca so that all you could see was hair over her face. Absoultely brilliant if it was intentional, and it made me wonder who others were shown with?
[/quote]

Heh heh...Chewbecca it is...
Flavialynn

From the previews, it looks like next week Alla and all get a Clayectomy, which sucks for Randall and Rebecca.[/quote]
If this is true... GOOD. I've never understood why the suck team gets to have their pick of the litter the next week. That punishes the winning team.
The Palace Worm

Jacob: You are referring to Adam in the Luke Skywalker costume? Eek. At least he didn't have the Gilligan hat from the cut Tattooine scene in Ep. IV. :)
[/quote]

Lead Magnet, you are my new best friend! That was awesome!
deltapav
Since Trump has shown he doesn't follow the rules of his own game by firing more than one in an episode, who can say that he won't HIRE more than one person at the end???

If he likes both finalists, that seems like another possibility. Brings a new dimension to the game.
SchoolofRock

You know, over the last few weeks, everyone's been going on and on about Marshawn's potential, from Trump himself to people on these boards. But she has not proven herself ONCE.[/quote]

I think the thing on this show is, if you are quietly adaquate and don't irritate your teammates or aren't a raving lunatic (MARKUS, TORAL), you're gonna make it pretty far. There are always people who implode during a task or have serious personality disorders to cut first. She was very confident and polished and always contributed wisely in boardroom discussions, kinda hid in the pack and that worked for awhile.
JennaC

Also? What does Felicia do? She doesn't bug as much with Kristi gone but I still can't figure out what she...does.

And how excited do you think Adam was that he got to dress up like a Jedi?


Well, she got to dress up as Senator Amidala in this episode! And if that isn't contribution, then I don't know what is! It's hilarious too when you think about it. If one of the execs asked her why she chose to dress up as a character, she'd be like, "Um, who am I supposed to be here?"[/quote]

Hee, Felicia has been scenery for the last three tasks. I guess she thinks Trump is looking to pay someone $250,000 to stand around in the background in costume. Someone needs to tell her that Kelly already has that job locked up.
sphoebus

Do you think Adam kept the outfit? [/quote]
Keep it? I assumed it was from his personal collection.
Rowr17

If this is true... GOOD. I've never understood why the suck team gets to have their pick of the litter the next week. That punishes the winning team. [/quote]

I agree that the losers shouldn't get to "punish" the winners but taking the cream of the crop, but watching Clay punishes us all.
mbridgii

I think Marshawn's rant was alitte inappropriate to be ripping the guy she's sitting next to when she just basically committed suicide in the boardroom.[/quote]
But he was the guy who, to her, caused her downfall. Therefore, she has the right to talk about him. It's not her fault that MB and DT are too cheap to spring for two taxicabs.

Plus, it makes her look better than that four-way stare into space that occurred two weeks ago.
heebiejeebie
Well another satisfying heave. Brian was an idiot and clearly needs to add a few inches before he should be allowed out in the real work force. If a meeting you want to impress at starts at 10:15 a.m.? You had better have your ass planted in the lobby at 10:00 a.m. What an idiot. Even if it Rebecca folded her arms and blinked them there.

And Marshawn totally checked out. She was so sure she could avoid culpability by avoiding any real involvement. And someone should send her a couple of business manuals on franchising and branding. She wanted to put the "new guy" up? I saw the film (against my better judgement) and I could not for the life of me remember the "colorful" guy Marshawn wanted to use front and center. It is a dvd and video game for gawdsakes. Of a third movie. It's not about bringing in new clientale; it's about making sure every fan or almost fan of the genre feels they have to get it. Get both. This was marketing 101. She so cut that class. Marshawn fell on her Jen M. face. And it was kind of pleasant to watch. And her snide little cab confessional was a hoot. Bitter much? Realize that you made yourself look like an idiot because you tried to shift responsibility for Rebecca doing the presentation. Had you had the balls and felt it was truly the right thing, it would not have taken rubber gloves and Carolyn performing a cavity search on your ass to pull it out.

Bill? "This is the top floor". You're so stupid it's almost cute. Almost. Back in my grandmother's day, the town would have called you "Nub" or "Digger" and made sure you had a place to sleep when the first freeze came.

Clay? Alla? Hate them both. They are both bitches. And Felisha? What exactly do you do other than whine and snivel about what other people don't do. Alla took over. And helped win the task. Clay let her and then tried to take credit. That makes him a douche. But how exactly did you expect Clay to act when both you and Felisha pulled Adam aside and decided to focus on Clay instead of winning the task. Clay could have bent over and pulled a dueling Darth Vader and Yoda out of his ass and the two of you still would not have been happy. What's more Alla? If you wanted to take credit for your work? You should have made that an issue. Trying to speak up in that manner made the whole team look stupid. And it made you look petty. There are better ways of handling that. But Felisha and Alla are both stuck in coven mode as their immediate reaction to Clay showed. Clay being a bitch does not stop Alla and Felisha being a bitch each as well. And Felisha? Extra foundation does not hide the acne scars. It only makes you look like a full moon in the tropics.

It's sad when Randall, who while charming and personal, is still appalling mediocre in terms of what the show should have at the table at this point. And he sucked tonight. Granted it was immunity, but Kendra clocked in a great performance even with immunity, didn't she? His rambling discourse about the movies? Wow. Randall, I so hope despite the charm you can turn on? I never get stuck sitting on a 14 hour flight next to your ass. How hard is it to summarize Star Wars without going into full detail from the very first film? And the computer was sitting right there. How hard to pull up a brief summary online? Or looking up what all the diehard fans were talking about in terms of the game and the dvd?

Everyone sucks. Fire them all.
AuntieKaren

Well, I thought the "lesson" about loyalty pretty much foreshadowed Marshawn's firing,[/quote]
Yes, very much so. But for a while there, I thought Trump might pull a real fast one and fire Alla because she was so disrespectful to Clay. That would have been a first--firing someone from a winning team.
amityisland

Jacob: You are referring to Adam in the Luke Skywalker costume? Eek. At least he didn't have the Gilligan hat from the cut Tattooine scene in Ep. IV. :)



Lead Magnet, you are my new best friend! That was awesome! [/quote]

But if he had they could have called him "Wormie" while he was whining about going to Toshi Station to get some power converters.......

Sorry, I went into Nerd Overload!
Akai

It takes more than 15 minutes to get to the bathroom in Manhattan!!! LOL[/quote]

http://www.newsday.com/news/local/newyork/...ynews-headlines
droolface
Marshawn felt too safe behind Brian's mistakes. She coulda been a contender if she was just a good sport and did the best she could a la Rebecca. It wasn't the presentation that killed Excel.
SnarkBoi79
Well, there goes my eye candy. I have barely gotten to see Martha's apprentice, but does she keep cute guys around?

[God, yes.]

I'm so pissed at Donald for firing all the cute guys too early the past three seasons. It's ridiculous! And yeah I don't care that Brian was 4'11"--he was still cute!
Klawzie
I guess I'm willing to defend Marshawn not because I approve of her CYA strategy (because that's what it was) but because it wasn't the reason they lost the task. At all. And she would have been able to point that out had anyone let her speak. (Well, if she would ever even have gotten to the point, even.)

I'm sad she's gone!

But as long as I have Randall, I'll be happy. Alla and Rebecca are interesting, strong players. But of the three, I'd like to see Randall dragged back on in The Donald's Apprentice Show Pony moments the most. (Though what Alla would do with her wardrobe after becoming the Apprentice would be interesting.)

Alla.... she's very smart and I think she's very talented. But I don't like her much. She lied to Clay's face about intending to respect him and how she didn't want him out of the game. (Though she didn't lie when she said she'd give the project "200%".)

Bill. ........... What did they do, wind him up and have him waddle around like a robot filled with cliches? That was embarrassing.
PinkyTuscadero
I get it. Trump devoted the first half of the season to firing the right people, and waited til the second half to fire people on a whim.

Rebecca somehow managed to come out looking like a superstar after she volunteered to do the presentation and then complained about how she "only had 30 minutes to prepare." Here's a thought...don't volunteer. Once again we see her doing nothing but complain. And her presntation? Blew. Hobbling and hopping and using big words...but knowing nothing about the film. Why Randal didn't present is beyond me. He was the only one who knew anything about the movie.

Marshawn didn't want to promote because she knew they were going to lose and she didn't want it blamed on her presentation. Which I understand, I just wish she had said that (or provided any sort of defense) in the boardroom.

Alla wanted desperately to be PM but didn't fight for it, then she turned around and bitched and moaned about Clay at every turn. And I'm really growing tired of all the "he's a bitch" "he's flirting with a guy" comments. To me, she seems to have an issue with homosexuals. Or just hates any guy that doesn't feel an urge to stick a dollar bill in her thong. What was the big deal about him leaving her at the photo shoot? She had it under control and it was obvious she knew what she was doing. Had he stayed there, she still would have bitched. Hating her hard right now. Sje's onviously very competant, but I wouldn't want to work for her because I know she'd be yapping about me behind my back.

Felisha, you suck. Get a dermatologist. Oh..and please do something. Anything.
Bard Guy
Am I the only one getting tired of these infomercials every week? A one-hour ad for Star Wars?
yadayada

Plus, it makes her look better than that four-way stare into space that occurred two weeks ago.[/quote]

What would have made her look better is if she spoke to Brian and said something like "Wow that was unexpected and although I am of the opinion that I am not the reason why we lost this task, I enjoyed being your team mate Brian and I hope we keep in touch." Or even what she said in her exit speech would have been good if she kept the blame down to minimum and made any attempt to reach out and communicate with Brian.
Keupi
Loved the double, richly-deserved, firing this week. I wish it would happen more often. If there is more than one that has no potential - let them go!

When Marshawn backed out, she put the rest of the team between a rock and a hard place. Brian is not a good presenter (self-admittedly), Randal could have done it but shouldn't have (sometimes too much knowledge is a bad thing), and Rebecca - the gal on the crutches did it.

I like Rebecca and I think Trump likes her too. I see her in final four, cut during interviews but working for Trump (like Andy) nonetheless. Stepping up was a big deal and she seized the opportunity. Marshawn handed it to her and she grabbed it - there was little chance she was going home.

Brian and travel time to a meeting. In general, you always want to give yourself 15 minutes and he didn't have it to spare. Actually he had less but why belabor a true idiot moment? Also, did he pick up a phone (no TiVo) and call the client to say he was stuck in traffic? I worked in Manhattan, gave myself an hour to travel, and still ended up running. But, the difference is everyone in Manhattan has been caught that way. Stupid for him to only allow 15 minutes, but he could have called the second he stepped into the cab and saved it. Again no TiVo so can't be sure. (I may have been slapping my head and missed that.)

As for Clay and Alla - I hope it doesn't bring her down. She made a crucial error tonight by saying I should have PM'd because the next question is why didn't you?

What's interesting is since the teams are 4-2 with Randal being on the minority side of the numbers, who will that team pick to bring it to 3-3. I think it will be Alla. Without Randal as being the 'swing' person, that pick will be telling. Maybe Trump will tell the '4' to vote on to who should they send away?

Either way, I like the firings, especially the multiple ones. Funny, last week Markus wanted a class on time management and Trump seems to fire these days with a don't waste my time on you philosophy!
stopeslite

How hard is it to summarize Star Wars without going into full detail from the very first film? [/quote]

In Randall's defense, I think this is something that's much harder for a rabid fan. Someone who doesn't particularly care can see ads for it all, get the general overall storyline, and have the arc. A longtime fan sees it through the chronological lens of how it all originally came out, so it goes "So there was Luke, and then Leia, and then a bunch of stuff, but then we went back to when Anakin was a kid, and then there was Padme" etc. etc. Forest for the trees, if you will. And a forest in which the space-time continuum was completely screwed up, at that.
Xenith

Since Trump has shown he doesn't follow the rules of his own game by firing more than one in an episode, who can say that he won't HIRE more than one person at the end???

If he likes both finalists, that seems like another possibility. Brings a new dimension to the game[/quote]

Except its NBC who actually pays the winner's salary, so that's probably not gonna happen....
ellisbell
The problem with subway/bus transportation is that they had to get to 12th Avenue. Manhattan is pretty speedy if you're going up or downtown, but crosstown is a bitch and a half and 12th Ave. is about as crosstown as you can get (the subways stop at 8th Ave.). I cannot come up with a single good reason why Brian didn't realize this and allot more time to get there (and neither could Brian).

Marshawn should have done her job instead of letting Rebecca do it for her. Rebecca doesn't have to worry about whether she gets hired by Trump or not because she's smart, pretty, articulate, has not yet totally embarrassed herself, and is a natural for TV news (especially with that background in business and finance).

Alla is definitely growing on me. Have any of the other finalists really been tough cookies? And Clay is fabulous. If I'm Margo Channing, I don't hire him to be my personal assistant.
maudlin

Marshawn didn't want to promote because she knew they were going to lose and she didn't want it blamed on her presentation. [/quote]
But she couldn't know for sure that they were going to lose. Sure, she knew their project was weak, but the other team could have been even weaker. A strong presentation could have been just enough to give their team a win. She failed her team, she gave Rebecca the chance to shine whether they won or lost, as someone has already said, and she just plain badly misread the situation. She didn't even try, and that was very foolish.
juiceman
I'm guessing that Brian is dating Ereka from season 1. Both are from New York, Ereka didn't know her way around the city, and Brian thought that it would only take him 15 minutes to get to the meeting from Trump Tower. I've never been to NYC, but know that it would take longer than 15 minutes to get almost anywhere there.

I do think that both Brian and Marshawn deserved to go today.
sesstr

To me, she seems to have an issue with homosexuals. Or just hates any guy that doesn't feel an urge to stick a dollar bill in her thong.[/quote]

But perhaps Clay really was flirting.
RhondaGC
Dayum! Remind me never to go up against Rebecca in anything. Girl is deadly. She made the smartest play tonight I've seen all season, maybe ever, in this game. Volunteering to do the presentation at the last minute was absolutely brilliant! If she did great, she could take the credit; it it tanked, she could say, "I only had 30 minutes to prepare because Marshawn backed out." Beautiful! She was covered either way. And you could tell she knew it from the moment she volunteered.

I do not understand why Marshawn dropped out. I've always given her credit for being smarter than that. She should have known they would cram that down her throat, even if she had had a good reason, which it doesn't appear she did.

And Alla beginning to amaze me. She is fabulous at setting up displays and marketing. She really has the eye for concept and design. A great skill, although I'm not sure how it fits in with the Trump Organization. She is my pick for the other member of the F2 now that Marshawn, my original pick, is gone.

I'm disturbed that Marshawn's firing means that one of Clay, Brian or Felisha is guaranteed to make the final four. None of them belongs there, IMO.
tone

The only thing that would have made this boardroom better is if they'd figured out a way to fire Clay even though he was on the winning team.[/quote]I would see it happening like this:
DT: Clay, you didn't get an exemption from your team. Let's save me the trouble of tossing your much talked about slapped ass out of here next week. You're Fired! Now! Get Out!
deaja

My favorite part of this episode was the announcer at the very end: "To buy the movie featured in tonight's episode, visit yahoo.com and search for Apprentice Movie." Yeah, because I'm sure a lot of people will need help finding that little indie gem.
[/quote]

Ha!

The cab ride was so rude. I hoped Brian would launch into a Marshawn attack when she was done, but no.

Did you guys notice, "step up" was mentioned, but not a single "step up to the plate!?!?!" Was that really Bill?
desdamonab
I wonder if the producers slipped Brian and Marshawn a little something on the side to spice things up, because those errors in judgment are inexplicable. Plan ahead to get to there on time? Nobody likes a quitter? Geez, that's learned in grade school stuff.
XZero-g
The sad thing about Marshawn is there's no real way she could've screwed up the presentation. The display was pretty simple and easy to explain. And even if it was poorly explained, the execs clearly said that the display was the main problem. She could've peed on it and set it on fire, but it still sucked to be begin with.
lstyd
Does anyone know if these guys (Marshawn and Brian) will be on NBC tomorrow in the AM? I waited and waited for the 4 losers (Josh, etc.) the next day but all I kept getting was Al Roker (HAAAALP!) I know it happened in TA1 that the fired person was on NBC Today or something the next day...
katesus7
I don’t know why, but I have this sudden urge to go to Best Buy right this very second. Did y’all know that they sold DVD’s? How fantastic. I just hope they have that new Star Wars movie and video game, because I really, really want to buy that right now. Oh, well, I’m crossing my fingers that I’ll get lucky and they‘ll have it!

I love the fact that Trump has completely gone BSC this season, and really no longer gives a shit about the whole “you’re PM, who do you want to bring in, one person is getting fired” bullshit. Because, come on. That whole shtick is tired. Played out. Been done to death. I love the fact that ten minutes left to go, I have no idea what the hell is going to actually happen. Is everyone safe? Is he firing the lot of them? Is he going to ask them personal questions about their sex lives? We don’t know! And it’s awesome. Because really, I don’t care about any of these people when it comes right down to it, and the ultimate prize kind of sucks, so it’s not like this really matters. I just like to be entertained. And this year, Trump is entertaining the hell out of me.

I have spent a total of two days - less than 48 hours total - in New York City. Even I know that you can’t get anywhere you want to go in under half an hour. And that’s if you’re running a marathon with the streets blocked off at the time.


Plus, it makes her look better than that four-way stare into space that occurred two weeks ago.[/quote]

To me, it made her look petty, and pissy, and kind of obnoxious. You lost. So did he. You don’t have to trash him anymore, since he's sitting right there. It’s over. Have some class.


I guess I'm willing to defend Marshawn not because I approve of her CYA strategy (because that's what it was) but because it wasn't the reason they lost the task.[/quote]

Yes, but if it had been up to her, not only would Darth Vadar not be prominently featured in the “display”, they would’ve had some random characters that no one had ever heard of. And I’m perfectly willing to blame her for that horrible idea.
PinkyTuscadero

But she couldn't know for sure that they were going to lose. [/quote]

I'd say from the minute they were late for that meeting, their loss was clinched. That and Brian knew nothing about the product and Rebecca mostly stood around getting all shiny.

I think Randal did push for Vadar, though, when ehwas going on about featuring the central figures only and not the new characters.

Alla's bitching abut Clay doing the presnetation was just petty. He was the PM. And, Alla, if you haven't noticed. You have an accent that is kinda hard to understand. I thought the way she kept interjecting was totally unprofessional. Got something to say? Wait til Clay is through and then take your two minutes to add on to anything he missed. Alla keeps saying that Clay is only out for himself, but so is she.


But perhaps Clay really was flirting. [/quote]

She was in one part of the room and he was in another. She looked pretty involved with the shoot. Unless she happened to see Clay put his hand on the guy's crotch or patting him on the ass she really has no idea what he was doing. Just because he was talking to another guy doesn't mean he was flirting. Alla has all these preconceived negative ideas about gay men. She tried to use his homosexuality as a reason why Clay was so forward in his presentation last week. It seems that, in her mind, gay men can't control themseleves and have no sense of decorum.
BibiBella

The problem with subway/bus transportation is that they had to get to 12th Avenue. Manhattan is pretty speedy if you're going up or downtown, but crosstown is a bitch and a half and 12th Ave. is about as crosstown as you can get (the subways stop at 8th Ave.). I cannot come up with a single good reason why Brian didn't realize this and allot more time to get there (and neither could Brian).[/quote]

Even if they had been going from 50th Street (near Trump Tower) to 34th street (a straight shot) on the subway, it still would take more than 15 minutes. Heck, it likely took 10 minutes just to go from the suite to the street!
SushiBoat
So what you're saying, Bill--and I want to make sure I get this right--is that it's good to think out of the box, innovate, act because actions speak louder than words, step up to the plate, give it all you got, be creative, get the job done, give 110%, buy low, sell high...

Bill my friend, you just blew my mind!
Xenith
Since it was a Team of 4 (with Randall exempt), just firing without the PM picking was no big deal, because the PM only had 2 people he could bring back, so it would just be a lame formality for them to pick.

Oh and with all the Star Wars advertising was anyone else thinking Donald might say:
"Brian, fired you are."

And since we do have so Star Wars geeks lurking in here, does anyone here have any clue who the hell Marshawn's Red Guy was?
SeaBreeze341


Plus, it makes her look better than that four-way stare into space that occurred two weeks ago.[/quote]


To me, it made her look petty, and pissy, and kind of obnoxious. You lost. So did he. You don’t have to trash him anymore, since he's sitting right there. It’s over. Have some class.[/quote]

Personally, I didn't really care about Marshawn, because I had to laugh at Brian trying not to cry. But IMO, I agree with several others; Marshawn did a 180 real fast.
nubbs

I thought bloated Trump really looked like Yoda.[/quote]

Jabba the Hut, I'd suggest.


Well, that was not how I expected Marshawn to go down. [/quote]

*giggle*

Clay was hoping for a little 'Revenge of the Bitch' but all he got was 'Return of the Alla'.

Cab ride? I am still laughing. Brian's face was priceless, especially when he turned toward the camera at the end. He looked so deflated. I laughed harder at this than I did at the quad caper.

Reward? I'd have been worried about dozing off and falling to my death. I'd make a desperate grab for Bill's tie if I woke up in time. Not to save myself, to take him with me as a public service. What a goddam bore that man is.

I can see them looking at my body in the morgue. 'It wasn't the fall that killed him, it was Bill's Book of Banality.'
highlander
Boy, does Trump love Rebecca!! OK, Rebecca jumped in to do the presentation but if Marshawn had presented, Rebecca would have done nothing this whole task. She did not even try to be PM. I think Trump wants her in the final 2. UGH!

Marshawn proved what I suspected all along. She is a great orator and that's it. She can give good soundbites in the boardroom except for tonight but basically did nothing on this task and then refuses to present! How stupid! If she had presented, maybe Carolyn would be asking Rebecca what Rebecca did on this task and it would have come out that Rebecca does nothing.

Brian-you along with Marshawn deserved your firing. Marshawn's viciousness towards Brian in the cab with Brian sitting next to her was ridiculous. Trump fired you Marshawn, yet you acted as if Brian fired you.

Randal tried telling Brian Darth Vader was important and Marshawn only wanted the "new, colorful characters. Oh, and Marshawn did not need to know Star Wars in depth, she just needed to present what they created. She gave Rebecca her notes and Rebecca did just fine. Marshawn, it could have been Rebecca going home-you blew it.
As for Clay, he didn't even get what Bill was telling them at the reward.
sesstr
Yes, I do agree that Alla's repeated interjections during Clay's presentations were a bit grating. But I really don't think it was self-serving. She created the thing and knew it best. I can understand how she would want to bring up to the executives all the best aspects of the display, if Clay had missed them. She was entirely right to point that the spatial formation of the display invited customers from all sides, and it seems unlikely that Clay had already brought up the point. Alla had a bit of owner's pride and also wanted to make sure that her team wins.
OraBrooch
Trump's time rant was hilarious (15 MINUTES).

So, the execs were on 26th and 12. Interestingly, this is the location of Martha's Apprentices as well. I also used to work in this building, on the 17th floor. Many a time I've had to take cabs to midtown or higher with no time.

It is do-able in fifteen minutes, but only if you get on eleventh or twelfth avenues, depending on which direction you're going. Broadway at rush hour? Hell no. I made it in fifteen minutes once, and I think my driver was on meth at the time.

Also, if you bribe the cabbie with a bigger tip, they'll run reds. But that's illegal and dangerous. So don't do that.
CheekyCricket

Alla wanted desperately to be PM but didn't fight for it, then she turned around and bitched and moaned about Clay at every turn. And I'm really growing tired of all the "he's a bitch" "he's flirting with a guy" comments. To me, she seems to have an issue with homosexuals. Or just hates any guy that doesn't feel an urge to stick a dollar bill in her thong. What was the big deal about him leaving her at the photo shoot? She had it under control and it was obvious she knew what she was doing. [/quote]
Except that Clay had no intention of giving her credit; he wanted all of the credit, even thought the ideas weren't his. (What exactly did Clay contribute, by the way?) I suppose Alla should just come up with the basic concept that impressed the execs, figure out how to execute it, and then let Clay take all of the credit because, what the hell, he's got better things to do, like flirt with a cute stagehand and figure out how to cover his ass in the boardroom, should that eventuality arrive. That presentation was Alla's concept: it was not Clay's concept. This happened to her once before, in the Lamborghini task, where Alla spearheaded the commercial that won the task, only to see Marshawn walking off with the credit. I realize that a lot of people don't like Alla, because she's conniving, but it was very interesting to see how Clay fully depended on her this episode. However, from what I've seen, she's come up with two of the most creative solutions to the tasks this season. If someone doesn't like her, then they'll be unwilling to give her credit for her successes. It's sad, because I came into this season expecting to dislike her because of her stripper past, but I've ended up being incredibly impressed by her hands-on attitude, and also, her creativity. Heck, maybe she was an incredibly creative stripper, hee . . .
blocked writer

Oh Marshawn. What happened? You were so good, why would you shoot yourself in the foot like that? You can fake the presentation. Pretend to be excited about your assy concept.[/quote]

I agree. Marshawn could have done a good job with the presentation, if she had just tried. I'm so disappointed in her. She was great in last week's presentation, and even if she didn't like the display, or didn't know a lot about Star Wars, she could have pretended. Her strategy was really unworthy of her intelligence and her abilities. I'll bet that once she's had time to think about it, she will kick herself for not making a better effort. If she had just done a decent presentation, she'd probably have been a shoo-in for final four.

I'm still happy about cool the way she handled herself in the beginning of the season, it was a real contrast to Kristi, Toral, & Felisha. But she made such an obvious blunder tonight, it almost seemed like it came from a different person.

I think I'm getting worn out with this show, because I'm tired of rooting for people and being let down by them.
Brent724

I don’t know why, but I have this sudden urge to go to Best Buy right this very second. Did y’all know that they sold DVD’s? How fantastic. [/quote]

Yep... they have EVERYTHING. It's better than any other store I have seen and the prices are the same as at Wal-Mart and other places. I have bought several DVD sets online from them.
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