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Cyb
If Heroes and Supernatural are anything to go by, there's a market for BroYay. Smallville should cash in and bring Lucas back.

Seriously, though, Lex has been a very flat character to me since S4 and I think a big part of it is he has no one to have meaningful scenes with anymore. His scenes with Lana are shippy. His scenes with Clark are snippy. There's not a lot of substance. He needs someone to reveal himself to (emotionally and verbally!) so that the audience knows what the hell's going on in his head besides "ooh Lana!" and "death to fishies!" Lucas would fit the bill. But he'd have to be reigned in so he didn't outsmart his brother or stab him in the back.
yaminbluth
What I really want to see on Smallville is a Chlark kiss iniated by Clark. The Vessel kiss was great, and I think for once it was when they were themselves, and they both seemed to enjoy and get into the kiss. However, Chloe iniated it. I want Clark to iniatiate one!! Maybe this season. There's a few episodes left, right? And we haven't had our annual Chlark kiss. Right?? *crickets chirping*

ETA:

2) Chlark kiss in the season finale, initiated by Clark


Whoopsie! Someone already said it!
Orestes96
Seriously, though, Lex has been a very flat character to me since S4 and I think a big part of it is he has no one to have meaningful scenes with anymore. His scenes with Lana are shippy. His scenes with Clark are snippy. There's not a lot of substance. He needs someone to reveal himself to (emotionally and verbally!) so that the audience knows what the hell's going on in his head besides "ooh Lana!" and "death to fishies!" Lucas would fit the bill. But he'd have to be reigned in so he didn't outsmart his brother or stab him in the back.
Oh lord, WORD. This has really been a problem since s4. Knowing that the possibility of Lucas' return seemed slim, I was kind of hoping Lionel would fill this role to a greater extent in s6. However, this was not to be. Lex has revealed some things to him, such as his motivation in Justice, but it's nothing incredibly significant. I also agree that it would have to be someone he can trust on some level. He can't reveal too much to Lana because it might harm the relationship; He can't give too much away to Lionel (in reality and not my fantasy world) because of their level of game and power playing. I'd take a little doggie companion over no one. We know that Lex's ambiguity need not be sacrificed for this either because he revealled himself to Clark in very intimate ways (other than the sex, you know) and others (such as Pam and Helen) without losing that edge. But then, this also would mean that TPTB care about Lex as a character and I haven't felt that was true since sometime mid s4. So in essence, WORD to that notion, Cyb.
savingpeople
What I really want to see on Smallville is a Chlark kiss iniated by Clark.


Agreed.
Not just one of those little pecks on the cheek ("Tempest"/"Devoted") or forehead ("Kinetic")...the real deal :)

Chloe'smiddlename.

Lois?


Ha! :)
Cyb
As Lana walks up to the altar on her wedding day, John Travolta dumps a big bucket of melted Peeps on her. As pink goo drips all over her perfect dress, ruining her perfect day, she snaps and uses heretofore unseen freak powers to mentally lock the church doors shut. Everyone thinks "Oh crap she's going to burn us to death now!" Instead, she bores nearly everyone to death, by laboriously going into every detail about every tragedy of her life.

The only people who escape are Chloe, Lex, Lionel, and Clark, having built up a resistance to boredom and bullshit over the years. Lana even manages to bore herself to death and is buried in a peaceful cemetery that Amy Irving occasionally visits.

That's my wish and I'm sticking to it.
Chiriru
Nah, middle names are for yelling. Usually reserved for mothers. "Clark Jerome Kent, how dare you eat up all the pie without offering anyone?!" kinda thing, ya know? I really like the Kent/Sullivan thing, but right now, I can't imagine Clark calling Chloe anything but Chloe.


Chloe in early seasons often called him Farm Boy and in the novel series he called her City Kid. Which is it's own brand of adorable.

What I really want to see on Smallville is a Chlark kiss iniated by Clark. The Vessel kiss was great, and I think for once it was when they were themselves, and they both seemed to enjoy and get into the kiss. However, Chloe iniated it. I want Clark to iniatiate one!! Maybe this season.


This whole season has been about them reversing the roles - Chloe gets personal development, and Clark professional (where last year it was flipped). Likewise the kiss? Should also be flipped.

And hey, just because it was said doesn't mean it doesn't bear repeating!!
Dread
First, I want a cancellation notice in TV Guide.

Or alternatively, I want Lionel and a few assassins (played by Darryl Hannah, Vivica Fox, Lucy Liu, and Michael Madsen) to walk in and gun down everyone, putting several close range shots into Lana to make sure she’s really dead and not just in a coma.
Massena1
Chloe in early seasons often called him Farm Boy and in the novel series he called her City Kid. Which is it's own brand of adorable.


That is adorable.

Funny, I was thinking "Farm boy" for Clark too because it seemed like she use to call him that but I wasn't sure.
Then I tried to think of an equivalent for Chloe and I was thinking something like "Miss Big City" "Miss Metropolis" "Miss Metropolitan" or "Miss Metro" to go with "Miss Did-I-Mention-My-Book-Is-About-to-be-Published?" Nothing clicked.

Farm Boy and Metro Girl?
MsSullivan
chlark sex.


(what? ;) I'm really depressed about the spoilers)
pyralis
After the spoilers for tomorrow - is it too late to ask for the JKR alternate Book 7 ending, "Rocks fall, everyone dies". :)
liz antoinette
I just wish Clark would move on already


chlark sex.



That too :)
Morrigan27
I just wish Clark would move on already


Wouldn't we all want to see Clark move on. Thatwould be one of my top five to see.
rowan sjet
I wish that everyone would watch something else tomorrow when Smallville's on, and if they really must see what happens, they go on YouTube or something.
faerie wings
I wish that everyone would watch something else tomorrow when Smallville's on, and if they really must see what happens, they go on YouTube or something.

Welcome to my world :)
liz antoinette
I wish that everyone would watch something else tomorrow when Smallville's on, and if they really must see what happens, they go on YouTube or something.


Me too because it would really suck to see "Promise" get better ratings than "Freak". I will be watching somethin else though
Cyb
So Lionel blackmailed Lana into marrying Lex. "If you don't marry Lex, I'll kill Clark but good!"

What are his motives? This is what I want them to be: Lionel recorded the whole thing. He's got Lana on record as marrying Lex not out of love but of fear. She was ready to run off with Clark and leave Lex at the altar. Lionel goes to Lex and exposes Lana for the faithless squirrel that she is.

Lex: Is this true, Lana?
Lana: You don't understand!
Lionel: I think that he understands perfectly well.
Lex: Yes, I'm starting to.
Lana: I thought you were protecting Clark.
Lionel: No, I was protecting my son. I had to show him what you really are.
Lana: But... where does this leave me?
Lex: A free woman, just as you wanted all along.
Lana: So I can be with Clark? You won't try to stop me?
Lionel: We won't. But you'd better hurry. He's probably just about finished watching the tape I sent him showing you trapping Miss Sullivan in the wine cellar.

Then Lana has to spend all of season 7 utterly alone.
PaintGirl
I (heart) you Cyb!

My wish is TPTB would hire you as a writer.
Prospero
Cyb, this would make so much sense... which is probably why it will never happen on Smallville.
Lionel definitely did it because Lana is so very perfect and he wants her perfect perfection to shine around his son.

My new wishlist:
1. 90% loss of ratings for Smallville. The audience suddenly realises what a crap this show is and moves to Veronica Mars to cure its brain. Veronica gets renewed for the fourth season, Smallville gets cancelled. But before this happens, we see the following...
2. Chlark sex.
3. Chlex sex.
4. Chlionel sex. Before sex there is a 30-minute dialogue consisting of threats, blackmailing, magnificence, snark, attempts of manipulations, a couple of compliments, a kiss, a slap, another couple of compliments, more snark, another kiss.
5. Chlois.
6. Lana die. Painfully. And before this everyone on the show tells her in her face what a bitch she was. Then they close her in a wine cellar to prove themselves that they can survive without saving her ass. When their mobiles stop receiving calls from her, they realise that she is dead and start a party.
mobiusklein
The writers and TPTB flogged on live TV.
scout1279
2. Chlark sex.
3. Chlex sex.
4. Chlionel sex. Before sex there is a 30-minute dialogue consisting of threats, blackmailing, magnificence, snark, attempts of manipulations, a couple of compliments, a kiss, a slap, another couple of compliments, more snark, another kiss.

That's a lot of sex to fit in before the cancellation. I'm not saying I would be opposed to any of it, I'm just saying it's a lot. Maye she could have sex with Lex and Lionel in the same episode. I kid of like the wrongness of that idea.
Cyb
Yeah I want Lionel to show Lex what a horrible mate Lana is. If Lionel supposedly wants Lex to be a better man, or even just a more successful/greater man, then he'd have to recognize that being with Lana is ruining him. He's pathetic, rash, desperate. That's not a proper Luthor! He's lost a spaceship, gotten his ass used as a vessel by aliens (and not in the fun way), been shot and beat up more than usual, and had many of his projects blown up. Lionel could use the argument that his blind obsession with Lana has made him dumb and weak and has distracted him.
suzycat
If we're getting all this sex, then we might as well get the whole set and have Clex sex as well. It can be a dream. I won't quibble!
YannickB
"Written by Mark Verheiden"
Dread
Now that my mind is on that general train of thought, I want to see an episode of Smallville where Lana is turned into (or played by) a live squirrel and no one seems to notice.
scout1279
"Written by Mark Verheiden"

That would be nice, wouldn't it?
Kahhhn
Well you can still see that on your TV screen..It's just you will find it on BATTLESTAR GALACTICA.
YannickB
I know, and I havent caught any of BSG yet, but I think he was Smallville's strongest writer and in an ideal world, would've ran the show.
Punkie Cat
Yeah, but Verheiden wrote the BSG episode "Black Market," which I am completely OK with forgetting ever existed and ignoring any character details it might have "unveiled," because those "revelations" were later ignored. Or, in the words of the fun Adam Savage, "I reject your reality and substitute my own!" /small cranky-pants rant

My wish? Give ED something better to do. The character of Lois as written in Smallville is just deplorable. Girl deserves something better. Actually, all the actors deserve better. They all just need to sack up and revolt.
scout1279
in the words of the fun Adam Savage, "I reject your reality and substitute my own!"

I have no idea who this Adam Savage person is or where that line came from, but I am so using it from now on - for everything.
Cyb
Now that my mind is on that general train of thought, I want to see an episode of Smallville where Lana is turned into (or played by) a live squirrel and no one seems to notice.

I second this wish. If "meteor rocks" can turn one person into two, or turn them into shapeshifters and reverse werewolves and whirlwinds of sand, I don't see why it shouldn't be able to turn someone into a squirrel.

I'd pay a lot of money to see Lex rhapsodizing to squirrel!Lana about how much he loves her, his voice thick with emotion. "I don't know what I'd do without the touch of your hand. Your tiny, tiny hand."
Chiriru
"Written by Mark Verheiden"


I LOVE those words!

I would also be down with #2, #3, and #5 on that list. (Though I would do it 3, 2, 5 in that order myself. Chlex, Chlark, and Chlois? I would have to think a lot of great people who used to watch the show would come back just for it.)

I think he was Smallville's strongest writer and in an ideal world, would've ran the show.


I believe in S1-s3 he had the job that SDK has now. And I think he did a much better job at maintaining tone and character voice across epsidoes.
MissIndependent
(1) More episodes written by AlMiles. The ones they have written are really well done. And I think the show would benefit if they took a more proactive role again.

(2) I want my kick ass, powersuit-o' Chloevage- wearing, story hungry, fierce!Journalist Chloe back. Who is this Susie Homemaker, Rah Rah EVERYONE!!! pod person we're seeing now? Blah. Oh, and she needs a better haircut too.

(3) Clark to get his head out of his ass and realize Chloe is "the girl of his dreams masquerading as his best friend" and grow out of Lana already.

(4) Chlark sex

(5) Nois to leave. I don't care if she dies, runs away with Ollie, or goes to run a Florist shop in Des Moines. Just please get her out of my Smallville.

(6) Once Clark has told Lana to take a hike, she can die.

(7) At the end of the series... Chloe is revealed to be the true Lois Lane. :-P
Liv06
(2) I want my kick ass, powersuit-o' Chloevage- wearing, story hungry, fierce!Journalist Chloe back. Who is this Susie Homemaker, Rah Rah EVERYONE!!! pod person we're seeing now? Blah. Oh, and she needs a better haircut too.


THIS! What I wouldn't give to see this character back. I think we need to bring back our slogan again: Save the Chloevage, Save the World...or something to that effect....and everything else on MissIndependant's list :)
faerie wings
I want my kick ass, powersuit-o' Chloevage- wearing, story hungry, fierce!Journalist Chloe back. Who is this Susie Homemaker, Rah Rah EVERYONE!!! pod person we're seeing now?

Total word! Bring back badass story hunting Chloe also:
Chlark
Chlois.
Clark calling out Lana’s crap.(please)
And can someone please mention Alicia with remorse, hopefully Clark I mean whole “I never loved her” line was just unnecessary and made Clark come off as a jerk. I would love Clark defending Alicia or at least telling someone off with a “you never new knew her” line.
Chloe singing, yeah I know what. But I read somewhere that AM is a singer how cool would it be if she had to sing or something to get out of a mess.

Would Chloe asking Clark how he knew she could sing or something, with him replying super hearing a bit of a stretch... Yep.
Massena1
I want my kick ass, powersuit-o' Chloevage- wearing, story hungry, fierce!Journalist Chloe back. Who is this Susie Homemaker, Rah Rah EVERYONE!!! pod person we're seeing now? Blah. Oh, and she needs a better haircut too.


THIS! What I wouldn't give to see this character back. I think we need to bring back our slogan again: Save the Chloevage, Save the World...or something to that effect....and everything else on MissIndependant's list :)


Me, too! Also, I guess Jimmy is not a breast man, because Chloe's push ups have mysteriously disappeared along with her power suits of Chloevage. What happened? Was Jimmy opposed to them? Did Chloe look too hot? Hey, maybe Scout has something with her cross-dressing Jimmy spec. Maybe he has borrowed them for himself. ;) That's my theory from now on.
MissIndependent
LOL Massena. That brings up another wish:

If Jimmy comes back next season:

(1) Chloe is no longer dating him. Please for the love of God, end it. He's sucking the energy and fire out of her.

(2) For him to do some type of cross-dressing in an investigation. Comedy gold people.
shansgrl
MissIndependent I like how you think! ;)

1) Nois needs to leave. She can go to Star City, or wherever the GA is and get in his hair. She offers nothing to Smallville.

2) Princess Pink Martyr has made her bed, she can lie in it. Quit portraying her like she's the victim.

3) Enough with the Clana crap. It done, old and tiresome. Clark deserves better.

4) It's time for Chlark. There can be no better romance than between two best friends who know each other so well and are each other's touchstone. (Remember Scully and Mulder anyone?)

5) More development for Clark. Move him towards his destiny, not backwards towards Lanaville.

6) Pod!Chloe needs to leave. We want our "intrepid reporter" back, and with better hair please. Not to mention, ditch Jimmy. For some reason it seems that Chloe can't be "herself" around him, because he just can't keep up.

7) Last but not least, bring the end of Smallville to it's logical conclusion. Chloe is the real Lois Lane. There is no other substitute.
liz antoinette
A Chlex scene that does not revolve around Lana.
MissIndependent
A musical episode.
Spikes Pet
A musical episode.


Written and directed by Joss Whedon.
scout1279
Hey, maybe Scout has something with her cross-dressing Jimmy spec. Maybe he has borrowed them for himself. ;) That's my theory from now on.

That would be awesome...as long as we got to see Jimmy in the power suits. Come on PTB! I bet he's look HAWT!

I want to see an episode where Lois turns into a horse. It happened in the comics, and I think it needs to happen on SV. Alternatively, there was a comic where Comet the super horse (I think that was his name) turned into a man and he and Lois fell in love that I wouldn't mid seeing SV do something with. What better anvilicious relationship could there be for Lois than to have her hook up with Superman's horse?

Other cool things would be Lana as the Insect Queen and an episode devoted to Streaky the Super Cat. If you're going to use all the lousy Silver Age stuff, and make all the characters dicks, use the fun stuff too.
Gawain
Ooh! How about middle names? Jerome and... Chloe'smiddlename.


Out of curiosity, Scry, where did you get "Jerome"? Clark's canonical middle name is Joseph.

Signed,

Someone Not Named Joseph

: )
Massena1
And can someone please mention Alicia with remorse, hopefully Clark I mean whole “I never loved her” line was just unnecessary and made Clark come off as a jerk. I would love Clark defending Alicia or at least telling someone off with a “you never new knew her” line.


faeriewings - I agree with your whole wish list, but this part especially got my attention.

Maybe Alicia, Bo and Raya can visit Clark in a dream or appear in a vision and shake some sense into him? There is something distasteful to me about how Clark is elevating the pain from watching Lana marry Lex above burying his father, his first wife and his Kryptonian friend.

I know it's cheesy and Grey's *just* did this dead characters visiting idea with Meredith, but Clark must have a learning disability because he seems to have learned nothing from Labyrinth. He needs another visit from Bo. This time with Alicia and Raya along. And maybe Bo can bring pie charts or flashcards with pictures on them?
Cyb
And maybe Bo can bring pie charts or flashcards with pictures on them?

Bo: Son, I've brought pie charts from the afterlife.
Clark: *perks up*
Bo: Not that kind of pie.

I agree with others who want to see the end of this tamer version of Chloe. There was no reason she wouldn't have reported on the "fight club." There's no risk of exposing Clark as super or herself as a potential freak, so why not? She needs her ambitious streak back and NOW.
CantThinkUpName
Here's my wish. We get to see Lex putting the extraterrestrial pieces together. We hear Lex combine Titan (not of this earth), the disc from earlier this season (not of this earth), being possessed by a spaceman earlier this season, the space robot from outer space, and Namor and Aerthyr from Arrival also from outer space.

I want to know, I need to know, that he is smart enough to realize that he's had a lot of adventures with aliens and that, like Richard Dreyfus, "this means something." Or he just thinks that meeting aliens is an everyday occurrence.
awf
One line. Chloe. To Lana.

"Just... just SHUT UP!"
Cyb
When the Lexana marriage inevitably ends, I want Lex to really think about what this says about his relationships.

First wife? Hypnotized him and then tried to burn him to death.

Second wife? Drugged him and left him to a watery death.

Third wife? Lana. Perhaps a fate worse than death.
scout1279
Here's my wish. We get to see Lex putting the extraterrestrial pieces together. We hear Lex combine Titan (not of this earth), the disc from earlier this season (not of this earth), being possessed by a spaceman earlier this season, the space robot from outer space, and Namor and Aerthyr from Arrival also from outer space.

I want to know, I need to know, that he is smart enough to realize that he's had a lot of adventures with aliens and that, like Richard Dreyfus, "this means something." Or he just thinks that meeting aliens is an everyday occurrence.

As much as I would love Lex to figure it all out and think it's the natural progression for the show and the character, I have this feeling that it's one of those things that DC would never let them do. It's a shame, really.
RichardAK
Lex knows that Clark is Superman in the comics, so I don't see why DC would have a problem with it. And I'm pretty sure DC doesn't have a lot of clout at Warner Bros. anyway, compared to the film and television divisions.

ETA: I stand corrected. I guess that must have been one of the things they retconned.
scout1279
Lex knows that Clark is Superman in the comics, so I don't see why DC would have a problem with it.

While I do not know if this was the case at one point, Lex absolutely does not know that Clark is Superman in the current One Year Later continuity.

Also, Lex doesn't know that Clark Kent is Superman in the movies, and it seems like there is suddenly a really big push to make everything fit into movie continuity at the end of the series. The Goughlar has said as much. IMO, that's going to be most damaging to the character of Lex Luthor.
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