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flux
Got a burning question? Post them here and someone will gladly answer. This is for anything GA related.
Enigma13
Not really a burning question, but a question nonetheless...how long are the gang meant to be interns? How long does the program last?
flux
I think it's 2 years, then they move on to residency.

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
PinkyLee
I only started watching this show this season and don't know where the name McDreamy came from. I mean, Patrick Dempsey is hot, but McDreamy?
Bruin4Ever
I believe Bailey coined the term Dr. McDreamy and that it stuck here at TWoP. If we tried, I'm sure Bailey could be the source of many nicknames for this show.
Scheherezade
It was Xtina who came out with the first McDreamy. In the "Just sitting here with my penis" scene from 2x02 if memeory serves.
Brittan
Now that iTunes is making certain ABC TV shows available, does anyone know if Grey's Anatomy will be added to the short list of Lost, DH, and Night Stalker? I would love to be able to carry McDreamy around on my iPod and watch him whenever I please.
WesternSkies
I thought they were interns for one year. The gang on Scrubs were only interns for the first season.

And I hope like hell they make GA available on iTunes. They'd make some serious money off me!
ClaireV

And I hope like hell they make GA available on iTunes. They'd make some serious money off me![/quote]

It is! It is! Don't worry. The only problem is that only about 15 songs are on it, so you have to search for the other songs individually.
joy1983
I think that Brittan meant the episodes, not the soundtrack. I imagine if Lost and the other shows do well on itunes they would put GA on it since it is such a big show.
Shambola
Where does "Meh" come from? And why do people type Xtina instead of Christina?
Scheherezade
Meh because there was a general feeling of mehness about the character when the show first started. A lot of people (on this forum anyway) will now identify themselves as being on the Meh love-train but the name has stuck. And it's shorter.

Xtina because cris/cross = X. And it's shorter.
flux
Meh is from a while back when the old GA tread started. A lot of people didn't like her and started to called her Meh. The posters from the old tread just picked it up since it was easier to type than Meredith. Saves time, you know.

Xtina, I think was first started by another poster, rekkid, I think. Anyways, it's also to save time from typing all the letters, Xtina vs Cristina.

ETA: Nevermind, Scheherezade beat me to it.
RandomRanter
Enigma13 - I think they're program is seven years. (I seem to remember that from the first episode). Although I agree that typically they are interns for the first year and then x-year residents after that.
Midnightmom
I think they are interns (general practice) for one year, then residents (specialty) for however many years are required. As potential surgeons it appears that the residency will take 6 years.
Ragnarok
It's my understanding, from when my brother-in-law was a resident, that the first year of any surgery residency is a general surgery internship after which you do the real specialty training. And that segues nicely into my real question which is: have we heard what any of their specialties is? I get that Shepard is a neurosurgeon and Burk is cardio-thorassic, but what the hell is Bailey and what are the interns? Again, from the b-o-l, he was already applied and was accepted to the orthopedic surgery program before he started his internship.
MelMelW
I love this show, but this is the first time I've seen it here on TWoP, so my question is this: there's an old thread for GA that I never noticed before, and it has 343 pages or something - but the show wasn't recapped last season or this season until this past week . . . right? I would love a recap of the few eps I missed, so please correct me if I'm wrong.
fonebone37
Please don't link to recaps from other sites.
JeS 47
Please don't link to recaps from other sites.
MelMelW
Thanks JeS 47 and fonebone! I appreciate the info and am glad to know I haven't been missing out on TWoP recaps . . . now if we could only get them to recap Reunion . . .
simpatico
Are there any plans to go back and recap season 1?
sarah1225
Is Meredith's dad dead or alive?
Bella Lumina
I don't think it's been explicitly said either way, but there have been no mentions of Thatcher being dead.
jandj
I think I missed a few episodes here and there. Can somebody explain McD's trailer to me? Did he tow it all the way from NY? Where's it parked?
sjoanzors
I'm not sure how the trailer got there, but I know that it's parked on land that McD owns. From the way he talks about it, it seems like he inherited it or something: "All this land is mine. I have no idea what I'm going to do with it."
The exposition you can get about it is in "Save Me" (season 1 episode 8).
Jitann
I haven't quite figured out what Hoyay is...anyone wanna clue me in?
Bella Lumina
It means "homoeroticism, yay!" Basically, it's used when a viewer senses a homoerotic subtext to a scene.
almostlunchtime
Regarding the Mama Meh storyline -- I missed a couple eps in the last month. How did they settle that one? Is she still in the hospital? Was she sent back to the nursing home?
flux
Yes, MamaMeh is back in the nursing home after she got discharged from the hospital. I hope this is not the last time we'll see her in the show though.
gl_shark
It looks like Bailey is unaware of Alex's failed exam [judging by the latest ep]. Does she know? That scene where he got punished for showing up late for rounds had me wondering.

ETA: I mean, is Bailey supposed to know about this kind of stuff? Because 2 eps have gone by and I thought the Chief would clue her in.
flux
I don't think Bailey knows. She didn't even know about Burke and Xtina, so she definitely does not know everything around the hospital.

It would be extremely low of Chief if he clued Bailey in on Alex. It's a private issue and there's no need for everyone to know certain intern didn't pass the test. Those are the things that could scar someone for life. How would you feel if everyone made fun of you because you didn't pass a test. For someoe as cocky as Alex, that would be really bad. Bailey doesn't need to know. JMO.
gl_shark
I'm not implying that her goal is to make fun of him, but that if she's aware she could help him infact. I'm talking about if it's her job to know, a job requirement to know these things. Sometimes people above in management types of jobs need to know the good and the bad of who they supervise. But I was just wondering if that type of knowledge applies to Bailey as well.

ETA: She also seemed to know about SGH's budget spending of the previous year and the lack of spending on generator [re: the elevator incident]. So she seems to have some type of communication with the Chief.
NovaCaine

It's a private issue and there's no need for everyone to know certain intern didn't pass the test.[/quote]
Except, when it comes to these exams, it's not necessarily a private issue. What Alex didn't pass was part of his Board exams, which are required for medical licensure (I used to work in a medical education office, so I know some of this crud). In real life, you can't apply for a license to practice medicine in any state until you've passed all parts of the Boards (there are three), so someone who never manages to pass the Boards would have an M.D. degree on paper, but couldn't legally practice medicine. As chief resident, it's possible that Bailey might actually need to know about Alex at some point, especially if it becomes an issue of, is there some stuff he legally can't do because he hasn't passed and isn't licensed yet? It wouldn't be a privacy thing, it would be a medical-legal liability and responsibility issue. Although it seems to me that people would eventually find out anyway, like in the first episode when people knew that there was an ex-model in the intern class, and that Meredith was the daughter of a famous surgeon.

Also, in real residency programs, an intern cannot advance to the second year of their residency without passing the Boards--at that point, residents are required to be fully licensed physicians. Which would mean that if Alex doesn't pass, it isn't just that he would be out of Seattle Grace, he'd pretty much out of medicine, period, because no program anywhere, in any specialty, could allow him to treat patients at that level of training without being licensed. Talk about stressful...(actually, I've been assuming that was the reason he froze up in the elevator and lost his mojo).

ETA: gl_shark put it a lot more succinctly than I did: it might actually be a requirement of her job to know.
WesternSkies
Actually, this talk of Alex's exam reminded me of something. I thought it was said that the part he failed was regarding, like...not people skills, but something sort of to that effect. But Wheelchair Girl said he was studying nuclear-something, which sounds sort of highly tehnical. Am I just confused? I know I'm oversimplifying. :/
jandj
Are we getting all new episodes aired consecutively until the end of the season? I thought I heard or read that somewhere. Does that mean no reruns?
Beffers
Its going to be going to re-runs fairly soon, I'd imagine. It would have already (like Lost and DH ) but for the 4 unaired leftover eps from S1. I imagine we'll have new eps thu mid Dec and then a mixture of new ones and reruns until Feb sweeps start, when we'll have all new eps for a month. A TV season only lasts 22 eps,but the Sep-May broadcast season is a lot longer than 22 weeks,
so they'll have to go to reruns eventually, even if they did have the 4 unaired eps to start the season off with.
jandj
Yay! I need to go back and tape the ones I missed in the beginning. You know, when the obsession was minimal.
RooRaa
Hey, does anyone know where Izzy grew up?

Apart from a trailor park and went to state schools. Thats the only information on her youth that ive managed to pick up.

I am not from the US so i could be wrong, but i thought that some state schools were quite good? Although obviously not Ivy League.
Beffers

Hey, does anyone know where Izzy grew up?[/quote]

Nope, we haven't been told yet.
RooRaa
Ok good, i didnt miss any hints. Thanks for filling me in!

What about george? Did you find out in the last episode? I read that his family were in it.

I have to wait until next year before i am able to view it unfortunately.
belladionne
There's not a lot of info that we haven't already been shown on the show, but if you haven't, everybody should check out the character bio files on the ABC website. Unfortunately, there is nothing in the file for Bailey; I guess it's meant to go with the character's lack of personal info being volunteered...
snuffles

Not really a burning question, but a question nonetheless...how long are the gang meant to be interns? How long does the program last?[/quote]

t's my understanding, from when my brother-in-law was a resident, that the first year of any surgery residency is a general surgery internship after which you do the real specialty training.[/quote]

I mean, is Bailey supposed to know about this kind of stuff? Because 2 eps have gone by and I thought the Chief would clue her in.[/quote]
Stuff that was addressed (but buried) in the old thread.
Most general surgery residencies are 5 years, a few are 6yrs. There are no 7 year general surgery residencies.

The first year of residency is called an internship. If you matched into a surgerical subspeciality (ENT, urology, orthopedics, etc) you will do your first year in general surgery before going into your field. This show is about interns who are in a general surgery residency program. Hence, their entire 5 years will be in general surgery.
The confusion with this show, is that it is not very realistic and the interns (and residents) do alot of things WAY outside their scope of practice. You rotate through various surgerical subspecialities during your residency.

The attendings are not really your bosses as much as your teachers. And it is forbidden to date your attending, so again this show is unrealistic, but makes for good drama.

When you finish residency, you can do a fellowship in other subspecialities-vascular, cardiothoracic, endoscopic, plastics, etc.

The chief resident will most likely find out b/c as mentioned above, you have to pass USMLE exams. Each state is different, however, as to when you must pass the exam. In California, you have to take and pass step 3 by the end of your second year of residency. I'm pretty sure Washington is the same, so technically, Alex can still go on to the second year.

Hope this is helpful...
Beffers

Hope this is helpful...[/quote]

Yup, it was for me as I have been watching the show from the start and some of the medical stuff still puzzles me, so here goes.


When you finish residency, you can do a fellowship in other subspecialities[/quote]

Which is what Bailey was about to go on and do, if she wasn't pregnant, I presume. So my question is, when you have finished your 5-7 years of general surgery Residency AND you have gone on and done your subspecialty fellowship, what is next ? Do you automatically become an Attending or do you just stay a Resident with lots of fancy letters after your name ? Are you automatically an Attending after you have put in X amount of years completing your residencies/fellowships, or are you only made an Attending if you have a specific interest in teaching and are exceptionally brilliant ? I guess my question is, can anyone be an Attending once they have put in the requisite years of being a doc, or is it this incredibly prestigious position that only the best docs can ever aspire to being ?

Also, what would Addison now be at SGH, if she was in private practice before coming to Seattle ? If you are in private practice, are you out of this whole Resident/Attending loop ? So what is she now that she is in Seattle ? Is she automatically an Attending coz she has been a doc for X amount of years or is it purely at the descretion of the Chief who gets to be an Attending and who doesn't ?
snuffles

can anyone be an Attending once they have put in the requisite years of being a doc, or is it this incredibly prestigious position that only the best docs can ever aspire to being ?[/quote] Hee hee
Good questions.
Anyone who finishes a residency program (Gen Surg, Internal Med, OB/Gyn, etc.) is considered an attending in their field. The designation attending is really only used in teaching hospitals to distinguish you from the residents. Similar to college professor vs. college student. The TA would be the equivalent to the chief resident.

Addison is an attending only b/c she works at the teaching hospital now. Traditionally, those of us who chose to stay in an academic setting gave up the big bucks in exchange for being on the cutting edge of medicine and the joy of teaching residents and med students. Now, in today's litigious climate, more people are opting out of private practice.

A fellowship is for the sickos (just kidding) who want to really specialize in one certain area in their chosen field. For example, Internal Med can do fellowships in GI, Heme/Onc, Endocrine, etc. after completing an IM residency. To confuse things more, even a specialist can further specialize. An ENT doctor can do a fellowship in otology (ear surgery), sinus &allergy, pediatrics, etc. after completing an ENT residency. Ortho can specialize in only hand surgery and so on.
geekchic9
Does Burke know that Xtina was planning on having an abortion?
RandomRanter
geekchic9 - Christina hadn't worked up to telling Burke she was pregnant yet. That's part of what his makes his seeing her operation on the board that much more heart wrenching.
tvismycrack
What exactly did happen with Cristina's pregnancy?
Pop Culture Freak
She had an ectopic pregnancy, which means the fertilized egg implanted in the fallopian tube instead of the uterus. Eventually, her fallopian tube burst (effectively ending the pregnancy), which is what caused her to pass out. Her fallopian tube and ovary had to be removed (I believe). Most ectopic pregnancies end in surgery and the loss of the pregnancy, although I think recently there have been a few that have been carried to term.
Melted Rubber
I'm fairly new to the show, been watching for a month, maybe a bit more. So, what's with this whole syphillis ring? Alex gave it to the nurse (Olivia?), and the nurse gave George? Do I have it straight? Or did I miss someone in the chain?

I can't figure out why I care so much about this.
flux
Melted Rubber, you got it. George asked Olivia out and she gave him syph. Then Olivia apologized to George and told him that she was seeing Alex. So the whole syph thing is traced back to Alex. But then Olivia decided to have sex with Alex again in last episode. Not too bright now, is she?
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