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hindulovegod

Nov 2, 2005 @ 12:32 am

You could drive a train (yeah, I know it's a terrible pun) through some of the plot holes on this show. As discussed elsewhere, if the airports are jammed and trains are out of the question, why not drive from Vancouver to get to your dying loved ones? It doesn't take that long, even with customs.

lamadeleine

Nov 2, 2005 @ 12:34 am

3-4 hours tops- even on a bad customs traffic day.

alwaysfaithful

Nov 2, 2005 @ 1:44 am

Yay, Vancouver! Just wanted to post since I'm from Vancouver. But the drive's like 2 hours tops if customs isn't bad. I think if it was such an emergency/life and death situation, customs wouldn't give you a hard time.

Bruin4Ever

Nov 2, 2005 @ 9:57 am

Personally, if it was this type of life-and-death situation, I would have hopped in the car and started driving without worrying about packing. Not much for customs to look at in that sort of situation, and I would definitely be pulling out the "this is a matter of life and death" line in such a situation. It may sound trite, but people will actually LET you cut in line if they know there is a real emergency at the end of your voyage.

Spaz Cadet

Nov 2, 2005 @ 11:33 am

But *WHICH VANCOUVER*???

See, there's Vancouver, B.C., the most perfectly aligned for feng shui city in the world, and then there's Vancouver, Washington, which is basically a suburb of Portland, Ore. I don't remember which Vancouver it was if they said at all. But they're about equidistant from Seattle.

Also, Seattlest.com has an ongoing "dissecting GA" where they gripe about the use of the word "ferryboats." They claim it's ferries, I've heard both. Did I mention how much I am looking forward to reading a TWoP recap instead?

Sheila Muir

Nov 2, 2005 @ 11:38 am

lamadeleine

Nov 2, 2005 @ 11:58 am

Yay, Vancouver! Just wanted to post since I'm from Vancouver. But the drive's like 2 hours tops if customs isn't bad
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You must have good customs karma- I'm from Seattle and I've never been able to make it to Vancouver in under 3 1/2 hours when the customs traffic was bad. I think the traffic is worse going to Van. than going to Seattle, though. Same with Vancouver, Wa- it takes a little under 3 hours with good traffic, but if you hit Tacoma/Seattle at a bad time--traffic hell.

I'm so happy to have a place in which to bring up my personal nitpick on GA which is the over-usage of the term "Mocha-latte", or "Caffe-latte" when discussing the coffee drinks. The only people I've heard use these oh so formal terms are tourists. For the love of God, writers, please just say "mocha" or "latte". These characters sound like they've been hanging out on Frasier(another show guilty of bad coffee terminology). How sad that I'm so worked about this, but hey.

Coma Girl

Nov 2, 2005 @ 12:43 pm

Also, Seattlest.com has an ongoing "dissecting GA" where they gripe about the use of the word "ferryboats." They claim it's ferries, I've heard both. [/quote]
I'm sure it's ferries in Seattle as it is here in NY. My guess is TPTB decided to call them "ferryboats" on GA so it didn't sound like "Derek has a thing for fairies."

slapdragon

Nov 2, 2005 @ 12:54 pm

I'd also like to nitpick about the almost forcedly dramatic "pole through the two people" thing - how hard would it have been to saw the dang thing in half BETWEEN the people? I realize that suspension of disbelief was crucial to the "only one person will live - who do we choose?" mechanism, and I also realize that my medical knowledge is as limited as my patience, but just about every dang doctor tripped over themselves leaping to the one and only diagnosis that somebody had to die. If I had been "sweet little white girl" or "fatherly black guy" (pardon my characterizations - can't remember names except "Tom,") I would have hesitated not one second to say "Are you serious? There's REALLY no other way? Um, what if we just sawed this thing in half, gathered two teams of surgeons, and gave each of us equal time?" I'll shut up now and see if anybody else out there thought this whole thing was a bit arbitrary. Did it work? Yeah. Did I cry? You bet. Was it necessary? Let's see.

WestCoastLovin

Nov 2, 2005 @ 1:00 pm

But *WHICH VANCOUVER*???

See, there's Vancouver, B.C., the most perfectly aligned for feng shui city in the world, and then there's Vancouver, Washington, which is basically a suburb of Portland, Ore. I don't remember which Vancouver it was if they said at all. But they're about equidistant from Seattle.[/quote]
Vancouver, WA is further from Seattle, it's about 4 hours. Being from Portland, I just assumed they meant the WA one. Because, you know, the universe centers around me.

WesternSkies

Nov 2, 2005 @ 1:06 pm

how hard would it have been to saw the dang thing in half BETWEEN the people?[/quote]
I think they were too close together to be sawed in between, and moving one or the other would've more or less sealed their fate, since the pole was holding things just so. I could be wrong, though. It's happened.

flux

Nov 2, 2005 @ 1:16 pm

how hard would it have been to saw the dang thing in half BETWEEN the people?[/quote]

WesternSkies is right about the pole. They were too close together and there was no way the doctors could operate without moving one of them. The pole girl, Bonnie, suffered major spinal damage, more so than the other guy, Tom. That's why she couldn't move her fingers or toes. The pole also puctured her aorta, a major artery that supplies blood to the body, and she was bleeding out. So when they pulled them apart, they couldn't save her because as Burke said, her aorta was ripped to shreds.

ISUHort96

Nov 2, 2005 @ 2:28 pm

Because, you know, the universe centers around me.[/quote] At least you're honest!

Re: THE POLE...still boggling me that they got the two onto a gurney and transported them...surely that would have been pretty jiggly no? But it's just TV...I think. bleebleeblahblahboo (hee!)

slapdragon

Nov 2, 2005 @ 2:30 pm

I have to disagree that they were too close together - notice that the hospital staff managed to get them changed into those wretched back-opening hospital gowns after they were brought in wearing their own clothes. There was a little bit of wiggle room - surely enough to fire up some sort of metal cutting tool and divide that pole. And while I do realize that Bonnie's aorta was pierced and she had more extensive damage than Tom did (thanks, by the way, for clueing me in to their names) remember the whole draw to the show focused on the staff having to CHOOSE which one to save, implying that at some point Bonnie was just as viable a candidate as Tom would have been. To me it sounded like the staff was faced with operating on one patient over the other and that it was a time issue (removing the pole was going to cause a rush of blood,) going back to my question as to why they couldn't cut the pole in half and take their time with each patient, or divide into two teams and work on both simultaneously. ANYWAY - I know I'm belaboring a moot point, and here's the reason - when they took Bonnie off the pole and began to work on her, I spent about 20 seconds being convinced that the show was about to throw us a curve, and that she was going to make it even though they'd had to make the agonizing decision to save Tom over her. How cool would it have been if Bonnie had been able to wake up - after basically making the choice to give her life for Tom's??!

flux

Nov 2, 2005 @ 2:43 pm

But the thing was Bonnie had suffer a spinal injury and was bleeding out badly. Tom wasn't as badly injuried as she was. She had no motor skills on her fingers and toes and would likely be paralyze either way. I suppose you could spray the pole with liquid nitrogen, cooling it down before cutting it off. But it is a metal pole, and cutting it would produce friction and heat. The surrounding tissues, muscles, and organs would be burned and destroyed causing even more damage to both people. I guess the whole who do you save theory is a little misleading. It depends on whose injuries are the most severe and saving the ones has the better chance of survival. It's not fair either way, but it's life.

slapdragon

Nov 2, 2005 @ 2:55 pm

True that. I'm just whining because I was so into the storyline and thought that Bonnie had a chance. I'm retroactively trying to save her life! You know "my Danny" would have loved her even if she'd ended up in a wheelchair - why'd the writers take the easy road and go ahead and kill her?? They'd already snatched away Miss Cell Phone when we didn't see that coming, I guess I just wanted another twist or two.

anniesqrd

Nov 2, 2005 @ 3:04 pm

Actually Bonnie wasn't bleeding and did have motor control in her hands because she was stroking Tom's shoulder right before they were put under.

slapdragon

Nov 2, 2005 @ 3:07 pm

Yep - see the thing is this - I think the writers just kind of vacillated between "Whom do we choose to save?" and "poor doomed Bonnie." Choice A makes us all want to watch, Choice B fits in nicely with the Meredith getting dissed by McDreamy storyline. Poor Bonnie - just a pawn for ratings with no real hope of survival.

simplyperson

Nov 2, 2005 @ 4:18 pm

slapdragon

Nov 2, 2005 @ 5:52 pm

Why yes, yes it would - and it would be a legitimate nitpick!! I've been wondering about that too (thereby ascribing legitimacy to your nitpick) and I was really glad not to have Dr. Grey wandering around during the train wreck episode (they've moved her to another facility, correct?) She may be under the influence of a mind-altering disease that she can't control, but the GA writers have made her darn near intolerable - perhaps to lend an understandable quality to Meredith's hope that the liver biopsy would come back malignant. I don't know, but one way or another I was sick of her. Yeah, I know, Alzheimer's sucks, not her fault, whatever, but I was sick of her. She was mean to George, and that's just not okay.

sab85

Nov 2, 2005 @ 5:58 pm

Would wondering about the wandering alzheimer's patient be a nitpick? Someone pointed out in the old thread that people couldn't watch her 24/7, but surely after the first time she got out they would have...i don't know..WATCHED her?[/quote]

This one bugged me because I volunteer at hospitals and I know how many people are running around. Not only are there interns, but nurses, CNAs, orderlies...

Obviously all these people already have jobs to do, but there are also the volunteers. I work closely with the volunteer cordinators at several area hospitals and I know at least two of them have 300+ volunteers. Many of these volunteers come at least a couple times a week, a few come every day. Most of the volunteers are either retired or are teenagers who have to have service hours for school. Many of them would be happy to go sit in a room and be able to read a book/do their homework/relax for a few hours. Heck, I know for several of our volunteers that are retired doctors who could even play along in MamaMeh's fantasy. Obviously this isn't really as dramatic or interesting as having George lose MamaMeh..../rant

kariyaki

Nov 2, 2005 @ 7:42 pm

Oh, nitpicking? I lived in Seattle for three years and there's one thing I know about that area. When it rains, it rarely thunders. Yet every time there's a big storm pouring down, they show lightning and make with the booming thunder and it just bugs the shit out of me. I saw lightning once, ONCE the entire time I lived there.

lamadeleine

Nov 2, 2005 @ 8:17 pm

jandj

Nov 2, 2005 @ 9:08 pm

As much as I love Addison, I'm getting a bit annoyed at her wondersurgeon abilities. Is she an Ob/GYN, a neonatologist, a genetics specialist, or what?

angelamyte

Nov 2, 2005 @ 9:17 pm

This is more a continuity (sp?) issue but in the elevator with Alex and George, you see Alex one minute putting on his surgical gown and the next moment you see him with his scrubs, THEN he has his gown on. Little things like that make me angry. Oh, I dunno if this is a nitpick, but Joe and the Chief have like the EXACT same scar..haha. It's on their right side and it kind of curves. Maybe it's just a mcdreamy trademark?

flux

Nov 3, 2005 @ 1:41 am

Oh, I dunno if this is a nitpick, but Joe and the Chief have like the EXACT same scar..haha. It's on their right side and it kind of curves. Maybe it's just a mcdreamy trademark? [/quote]
Really? I didn't notice. I though Joe's scar was more medial and Chief's scar is lateral on the right side.

bookie85

Nov 3, 2005 @ 2:34 am

I have lived in the northwest, about two hours south of Seattle for twenty years and it really just rains, or drizzles most of the time. Thunder storms are a bit of an event, so having them happen all of the time is just not accurate.

Want2Sleep

Nov 3, 2005 @ 4:44 am

Would wondering about the wandering alzheimer's patient be a nitpick? Someone pointed out in the old thread that people couldn't watch her 24/7[/quote]

Maybe someone can add to this but most elderly patients I have encountered with alzheimers or dementia have an alarm on their bed so if they get out the nurses station is warned. Or if the try to get out of their wheelchair the alarm is sounded also. It's pretty helpful.

simplyperson

Nov 3, 2005 @ 11:14 am

I knew that the wandering patient thing was off! When my grandmother was in a nursing home for rehab, they had an alarm attached to her and where ever she was. (she doesn't have alzheimers, she was a fall risk, prior to the nursing home stay she was in a military hospital--where they did have a corpsman with her at all times).
I understand I'm supposed to suspend disbelief for the sake of the show, but sometimes I just can't.

And I didn't notice any thunder during the rain scenes, but I'm sure they were there.

ThoraSEB

Nov 3, 2005 @ 3:15 pm

Slapdragon - I think they moved Ellis to a nursing home at the end of the episode before the train wreck. I could be wrong, but that's what I seem to remember.

ETA - whoops, just noticed in your post that you mentioned that. Sorry! :)

DMW_SFU

Nov 4, 2005 @ 7:04 pm

Also, Seattlest.com has an ongoing "dissecting GA" where they gripe about the use of the word "ferryboats." They claim it's ferries, I've heard both. [/quote]

I've heard both as well. I feel like ferryboats may be a Southern phrase. [/quote]

I have lived in the Pacific Northwest since birth, and I have never in my life heard the term "ferryboats." Is that even a word?!

Also, yes, never lightning and thunder unless you head east of the Cascades. That rarely happens on the oceanside of the mountains. For instance, it's pouring buckets in Portland today -- but NO thunder or lightning.

Stella Polaris

Nov 4, 2005 @ 8:14 pm

East Coast writers simply do not understand West Coast weather.
--written on a drizzly day 900 miles south of Seattle

simplyperson

Nov 4, 2005 @ 9:35 pm

Ferryboat is a word, but I've never heard it used that I can recall either. Then again, I'm in Virginia and wouldn't have a clue what they were called up in the Pacific Northwest. The only ferries I'm familiar with are the Jamestown Ferry and the one on the Elizabeth River...

demonfurby411

Nov 4, 2005 @ 9:58 pm

i from vancouver WA and i totally thought that they were talking about here when they said that the boyfriend was coming in from vancouver. maybe because it is farther away from seattle, thus adding to the drama. or maybe because i too think that the world revolves around me.

and to whoever said that vancouver is like a suberbia of portland, i kind of disagree with you. vancouver is in a different state and has different laws. and it also has a downtown, complete with ghettos and bums. we also have a population of almost half a million. of course we wouldn't be here without portland, and all of our news stations are based their also, but we are our own city. (sorry if that last paragraph sounded a bit snotty, it just bugs me when people say that vancouver is portlands suburbia)

i've lived in the portland/vancouver area all my life, and i have to agree that most of the characters on the show sound like tourist. . but are all of the characters from the northwest. we know that McDreamy and cristina arn't, and that meredith lived in somewhere like boston for a while. so maybe if a lot of the characters arn't from the NW that would explain why they sound like tourist.

i also agree that it never thunders and lightnings here. i lived here all my life and i think the number of times it has thundered and lightnings is somewhere around 10, probably less. speaking of raining, it's pouring buckets all week. so bad that one of the hall ways in my school is flooded. you would think that when they were building the school they would have concidered that it rains 9/12 months here, and would have made the school waterproof. those stupid monkeys.

oregonbeach

Nov 4, 2005 @ 11:34 pm

kariyaki

Nov 5, 2005 @ 12:26 am

Vancouver BC is an island and is not on a direct route on a straight freeway like WA. So who knows?[/quote]
The city of Vancouver itself is actually on the mainland and not on the isle of Vancouver. It IS a pretty straight shot from there to Seattle but it's still a long way. Not accounting for major traffic delays, it takes about 3 hours to drive from center-of-town to center-of-town. And that's if you're really hauling, like I would imagine someone who's fiancee was dying would be. Really, your biggest delay would be in exiting Vancouver itself. There are no freeways there.

Spaz Cadet

Nov 5, 2005 @ 1:05 am

MOCHA LATTE! OY! No one here ever says that!![/quote]

No. Even those of us who do partake of the sweet coffee drinks. But if there was a scene where varying degrees of scorn were heaped upon Latte and Frap drinkers by Americano and drip drinkers, how many people would get it across the country?

And the rain, oh man the rain. But I swear I heard thunder and saw lightening like TWICE this spring and I about came out of my skin both times. It made me ponder global warming and fucked up weather world wide.

Sorry, demonfurby, for dissing Vancouver as a suburb of Portland. It has its own economy, own daily paper and own raison d'etre, but if it weren't for the convenience of sales tax-free shopping of Oregon and income tax-free living in Washington State, well, it wouldn't be the same. I'm just jealous because you're by Powell's and all those McMenamins.

DMW_SFU

Nov 5, 2005 @ 5:40 am

Sorry, demonfurby, for dissing Vancouver as a suburb of Portland. It has its own economy, own daily paper and own raison d'etre, but if it weren't for the convenience of sales tax-free shopping of Oregon and income tax-free living in Washington State, well, it wouldn't be the same. I'm just jealous because you're by Powell's and all those McMenamins. [/quote]

Well, I live in Tigard and it has all of those things, too, but it is very much a suburb of Portland. Having a city government and your own downtown doesn't mean you're not a suburb. Vancouver is most definitely a suburb of Portland It's even one of the coverage areas/editions of The Oregonian.

oregonbeach

Nov 5, 2005 @ 11:06 am

Wow, my bad. My memories put Vancouver BC on Vancouver Island, but guess not. Well, according to MapQuest, driving their way, it's 140 miles mostly driven on "Provincial Rt 99" and I-5. Vancouver WA, on the other hand is 163 miles of I-5. So basically, either Vancouver will do for lazy writers.

I live in Keizer, which was a suburb of Salem. We have our own newspaper, police, mayer, etc. But we don't have our own postmaster and thus share a zip code with an area of Salem. This was Tigard's problem also at one point, don't know if it still is (even in you have a post office, you must have a sep postmaster for each zip). However, Vancouver does have it's own zip, etc. Both states have claimed this city for a long time and it's an issue never to be resolved. Just like we Oregonians act like Mt St Helens was ours.

Was there a topic? Here's a question for those in the know... Do large modern hospitals have communal dressing rooms? It seems a plot contrivance to me, since doctors and familiarity with human bodies aside, some people don't want to expose their flesh in front of others. Like we haven't seen Bailey take her top off yet!

Beffers

Nov 5, 2005 @ 1:18 pm

Do large modern hospitals have communal dressing rooms? It seems a plot contrivance to me,[/quote]

I think they do have separate male/female changing rooms and showers but that the locker room is communal. Back at the begining of 1.07 ( sorry I forget its ep title,) there's the scene in the locker room where Meh is getting grief from her roommates for her noisy night of passion with McD. George enters the locker room thru a curtain. He is in his scrubs, but he has his clothes over his arm and he says "I need a kickass surgery to get me thru today ". So I think he was coming from a separate curtained off changing area and going into the locker room to put his clothes away. I think we see more scenes take place in the communal locker room than in the separate dressing rooms/showers so that they have have male and female characters in the scenes.

demonfurby411

Nov 5, 2005 @ 1:40 pm

i can see why some people would think of vancouver as a suberbia, after all over half the city is made up of the burbs. but it isn't really the same as tigard or oregon city or other places like that, because we are in a different state.

it's kind of a weird situation. last year i went to a private school in portland and it was really strange sometimes. like when me and my friends were all learning to drive, there were two study groups. one for kids who lived in portland, and one for kids from vancouver. because the drivings laws are different. its also really weird going to a store or resteraunt in portland because they have no sales tax.

so maybe we are a suberbia that isn't really a suberbia. it's kind of hard to tell.

is it just me or is almost everyone on this thread from the northwest. maybe we should send a letter or something to writers telling them they they are messing up a few things about NW culture. and then send them a list of correct coffee vocabulary.

has anyone ever noticed that no one ever gets stuff like caramel or an extra shot in their coffee. i can't remember anyone ever drinking a blended mocha either or eating chocolate covered coffee beans either.

lamadeleine

Nov 5, 2005 @ 2:13 pm

is it just me or is almost everyone on this thread from the northwest.
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Guilty as charged.

maybe we should send a letter or something to writers telling them they they are messing up a few things about NW culture. and then send them a list of correct coffee vocabulary.
[/quote]

It would certainly satisfy my bordering-on-the-absurd annoyance with these gaffs.

i can't remember anyone ever drinking a blended mocha either or eating chocolate covered coffee beans either.
[/quote]

Did that happen on the show? I don't recall that.

cordygirl

Nov 7, 2005 @ 3:23 pm

Having been born about 4 hours south of Seattle, and having lived here for 40+ years, we do get thunder and lightening together in the Willamette Valley. Not a lot, maybe once or twice in a calendar year, but we do. Maybe it's all about being in a hole, geographically and culturally.

We have a ferry (flat, in no way boat shaped... more like a barge) up the road. Oddly, I have heard conversations where Washington's ferries were referred to as ferryboats. Maybe more of a 60's thing when I was a child. And some of them do look like boats, especially near Anacortes.

Vancouver Washington is about 2.5 hours from Seattle with good traffic. Vancouver BC is an island and is not on a direct route on a straight freeway like WA. So who knows?[/quote]

Thank you! I would like to anti-nitpick a little... I've lived in Western Washington my entire life, and I've lived in Seattle and the surrounding areas for 9 years, including the years I attended the University of Washington. Vancouver, BC is on the mainland (as corrected in another post) and is 2 1/2 to 3 hours from Seattle, depending on traffic and customs. Vancouver, WA is 3 hours or more from Seattle, without traffic. My husband and I did a Vancouver, WA to Seattle drive this summer, because my sister lives in Vancouver. At least 3 hours. But I will agree that either way the "loved ones" would have probably jumped in a car before finding a hard to find flight...

I have heard ferries called ferryboats, although not very often. We have thunder and lightning storms all the time, they are just little ones, not lasting very long and not covering a huge area.

I would like to say that I am thankful that whenever they show Seattle or the freeway (as they did at the beginning of the show last night) they really are showing Seattle. I knew exactly where Meredith was driving on I-90 last night. Love it! Also, did you guys know that one of the producers is from Bellevue, WA? I think that's why they get so much stuff right. Like the bike race, the dead baby race. That's a real thing, and I know people who have lived here for YEARS who don't know about it, so I was really impressed with their use and knowledge of it last season. I agree with the point that most of these Doctors aren't from the PNW so that would account for the discrepencies.

eartha

Nov 8, 2005 @ 7:28 pm

Why the fuss over whether or not people in the NW say "ferryboats"? McDreamy isn't from Seattle, he just moved there, so he would still be learning the regional vernacular and wouldn't speak like a native yet. If you want to be picky about it, analyze whether someone from Manhattan would say "ferryboat" or not.

I've lived in Seattle for a little over 1.5 years now, and in that time I kept claiming to friends back in Texas that it never storms here. Lo and behold, a few weeks ago we did in fact have a nasty storm. So we do have lightning and thunder here, but it's quite rare. Most of the time there is just gray drizzle for part of the day (except this past Saturday when it absolutely poured all day when I was out running errands).

I too appreciate all the shots of Seattle. It truly is a beautiful place to live. Much of the rest of the US has this impression of Seattle as a dreary city, and native Seattlites like to purpetuate this myth to keep others from moving here.

Bruin4Ever

Nov 9, 2005 @ 12:11 pm

Meh refers to them as ferryboats, eartha, not McDreamy. The difference being that we all assume she was from the area, given her mother's house there and all. However, it may be important to note that the Chief, early on, treats her as though he hasn't seen her. As in she was only a rumor to him. Same with Nurse Whatshername that was the hazing ritual for Xtina. She made it sound like MehMommy never talked about Meh. At all.

While they don't spend enormous amounts of time here, my kids often come to my office. So it's safe to assume that Meh didn't go to the hospital all that much. That would beg the question of whether she was native to the area or only moved there after her mother became sick.

Beffers

Nov 9, 2005 @ 2:33 pm

I think they both call them the same thing. McD refers to these large vessels that carry people and cars across large bodies of water as "ferryboats" in 1.02, during their first and O so memorable elevator encounter and Meh calls them the same thing in several eps.

I think that Meh is from the area originally, because she refers to her mothers house as "home" in 1.01, that but her mother left Seattle for Boston ( and took Meh with her we presume) back when Meh was 12. Seeing as she also went to school on the East Coast, maybe its safe to presume that Meh hasn't actually lived in Seattle since she was 12, so her knowledge of local terminology could be rusty. Hence her calling them "ferryboats".

Meh being 12 when she left Seattle isn't carved in stone BTW. I just remember some peeps doing the math of Webber and MamaMehs affair when it was first revealed. They figured out how old Meh is supposed to be now, how old she was at the time of the affair and they came up with her being 12ish when she moved to Boston with her mother. It made sense to me at the time.

Shary Bobbins

Nov 9, 2005 @ 7:39 pm

I know this is getting beaten to death, but for me, the quibble is with the WORD "ferryboat." Is a ferry not a boat, by definition? That's redundant. And odd.

And I must say, I live in Seattle and I would totally point and laugh at someone who said "Let's take the ferryboat."

Btw, my friend was on the ferry when they were filming one day a couple months ago. She said everyone was very courteous and professional. But she hasn't seen the show, so sorry, no specific gossip.

bsg27

Nov 9, 2005 @ 8:51 pm

FWIW - We do have ferries in Boston and do not call them "ferryboats" here either. So, Mere growing up in Boston is no excuse for her using that term. :)

Love the shots of Seattle - as I love the city too - especially the one where they're looking North to the city over the 5 (?). I considered going to UW for grad school... and a little part of me still wishes i had lived there for a year or so... especially when I see the beautiful scenery.

I took them as coming from Vancouver, BC - they said "coming down from together" I believe. That to me would indicate from the North.

Bruin4Ever

Nov 10, 2005 @ 9:42 am

The answer to your question, Shary Bobbins, is no. A ferry, be definition is NOT NECESSARILY a boat. The noun form of the word also refers to a corporation that is licensed to transport items over bodies of water. It also refers to airplanes used to transport goods and materials. Furthermore, ferryboat is given its own definition.

However, the issue here is that the vernacular of the area would dictate that someone not refer to it as a ferryboat, but as a ferry. Here in the SF Bay Area (where there is obviously a big body of water people traverse often), they are almost always referred to as ferries. However, people would not be laughed at if they said ferryboat. Because that would be rude.

Please see the following from Webster's Online Dictionary:

Main Entry: fer·ry
Pronunciation: 'fer-E
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): fer·ried; fer·ry·ing
Etymology: Middle English ferien, from Old English ferian to carry, convey; akin to Old English faran to go -- more at FARE
transitive senses
1 a : to carry by boat over a body of water b : to cross by a ferry
2 a : to convey (as by aircraft or motor vehicle) from one place to another : TRANSPORT b : to fly (an airplane) from the factory or other shipping point to a designated delivery point or from one base to another
intransitive senses : to cross water in a boat

Main Entry: ferry
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural fer·ries
1 : a place where persons or things are carried across a body of water (as a river) in a boat
2 : FERRYBOAT
3 : a franchise or right to operate a ferry service across a body of water
4 : an organized service and route for flying airplanes especially across a sea or continent for delivery to the user

Main Entry: fer·ry·boat
Pronunciation: 'fer-E-"bOt
Function: noun
: a boat used to ferry passengers, vehicles, or goods

I hope this proves to everyone that I am an English geek.

almostlunchtime

Nov 10, 2005 @ 1:17 pm

Here in the SF Bay Area (where there is obviously a big body of water people traverse often), they are almost always referred to as ferries. However, people would not be laughed at if they said ferryboat. Because that would be rude. [/quote]

They would be laughed at, however, if they were wearing a miniskirt and attempting to talk on the phone while on deck during a windy day. Meaning, I would be laughing. I actually took the ferry you're referring to, Bruin, yesterday. The drinks are overpriced.

To get back to the topic of Meh's leaving Seattle, I haven't seen any of the eps where she talked about it. But I was under the impression that Meh left with her father after, ostensibly, Ellis and Thatch split up. I remember the ep when they were talking about Meh's father and Meh got all defensive when MamaMeh couldn't remember him. That led me to believe that Meh was much closer to her dad, which would go with her leaving the city to live with him.

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