Thursdays is a huge risk that it might not even pay off; what if GA loses a sizeable chunk of it's audience? [/quote]
Mexicanguy, that's why it would take some huge gonads on ABC's part. But it needs to do something on Thursday night. Again, it's the most lucrative night of the week in terms of advertising, due to movie studios and retailers advertising for the weekend. Any new show that ABC puts on that night is going to get killed (see
The Night Stalker). I would liken this to CBS moving
Survivor from Wednesday, where it originally aired, to Thursday to take on
Seinfeld way back when. That helped fuel CBS' rise to the top.
Mondays seems like a better option because there is not a lot of competition that night and ABC won't have Monday Night Footbal the next season so they will need one or two succesful shows there.[/quote]
That was my second thought, although CSI: Miami is a top ten show. You're assuming that What About Brian? is going to bomb, which it may. Actually, this might not be a bad lineup:
8:00 - 9:00: Wife Swap / The Bachelor
9:00 - 9:30: Emily's Reasons Why Not
9:30 - 10:00: Jake in Progress
10:00 - 11:00: Grey's Anatomy
They're all lighter shows with an appeal to women.
Did I say I love having an entire thread to speculate about this?
flux
Nov 2, 2005 @ 3:44 am
I think Monday at 10pm would be good but it might be a little late. 24 is back on schedule in January and I would hate for GA to go up against that show at 9pm.
LingPetunia
Nov 2, 2005 @ 5:41 am
I don't think Grey's Anatomy would be that hurt by CSI if it was moved to Thursdays. I don't watch CSI, but I am assuming it is not a serial (most crime shows aren't), so I could see people skipping an episode of that over GA.
snowfall
Nov 2, 2005 @ 10:16 am
I think Grey's Anatomy should air on Thursdays at 10 if ABC moves it. The only real competition would be from Without A Trace. ER is nothing but a steaming pile of shit now and the falling ratings prove that so GA wouldn't be affected by it. If anything it would affect ER's ratings.
ETA IIRC both ER and Chicago Hope aired on the same night and time for a while so there could be 2 medical dramas on at the same time.
YuppieLawyer
Nov 2, 2005 @ 10:48 am
I'm sure that's what ABC is expecting, but GA doesn't seem like the kind of show the Super Bowl audience will watch. [/quote]
Actually, I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that more women watch the Super Bowl than the Oscars, so I think there will be plenty of audience for it.
I agree with the theory that they are planning on moving it to another night. It got a lot of first-time viewer attention from the DH lead-in, but has now established that it doesn't need the DH lead-in to achieve good ratings. I'm sure ABC would like to use DH as a lead-in for another new show, now that it seems that Grey's can stand on its own.
Bruin4Ever
Nov 2, 2005 @ 11:01 am
Come January, ABC is going to be looking for something to fill those lonely Monday Night Football-less evenings. Could GA be moved there to try and keep their Monday night ratings up?
Qui
Nov 2, 2005 @ 11:50 am
While I know that most people on TWoP don't watch CSI, GA will be murdered if it goes against it. Without A Trace has been in the top 5 since it started and even people don't talk about as much, it's not likely to change. Just leave it where it is and don't screw with the show.
Livia52001
Nov 2, 2005 @ 11:57 am
I believe that ABC will move GA to another night..next year, ABC won't have Monday Night Football at all (it's going to NBC) so it needs a hit to anchor or rather, finish off the night. It would go against CSI:Miami though, but I'm confident that most of that audience is not the same as Grey's.
Even if GA moves to Thursdays, anything would perform better than 20/20 or Night Stalker.
Dysturbed
Nov 6, 2005 @ 8:56 pm
In Philadelphia ABC is airing the Eagles game and had Desperate Housewives on at 7 and they are airing Grey's Anatomy at 11:30 after the game.
prue
Nov 7, 2005 @ 2:44 pm
November 6 ratings:
ABC, as expected, took top-rated honors on Sunday with its winning combination of a two-hour edition of Extreme Makeover: Home Edition (Overnights: #2, 9.5/14; Viewers: #2, 15.18 million; A18-49: #1, 5.9/14 from 7-9 p.m.), Desperate Housewives (Overnights: #1, 16.8/23; Viewers: #1, 24.35 million; A18-49: #1, 10.3/23), and
Grey’s Anatomy (Overnights: #1, 13.2/20; Viewers: #1, 18.96 million; A18-49: #1, 8.5/20).[/quote]
http://www.mediaweek.com/mw/newsletters/pr...sider/index.jsp
Bruin4Ever
Nov 7, 2005 @ 4:10 pm
I like it when show I watch get good ratings. yay!
Buckner400
Nov 13, 2005 @ 9:46 pm
Some thoughts on the post SUpe Bowl airing:
1. My understanding is it is a push for more mail viewers (other than me I guess).
2. Related to that, I usually attend a Super Bowl party at a local restaraunt. A friend rents out the back room, gets a huge screen, a never ending buffet, and charges 50 bucks a head. Room is usually full. The question, how do I convince him to allow me use of room afterwards to watch the show - or do I haul ass out of there, missing post game stuff and watch at home?
By the way Livia52001 - Monday Night Football is going to ESPN next year. NBC will get the Sunday night games (is this too much football talk for this site - don't want to upset AB Chao again).
Shacklebolt
Nov 14, 2005 @ 3:38 pm
Helped by the end of 'Desperate Housewives' ratings' slump, a season-high ratings for GA (
Hollywood Repoter):
ABC's "Desperate Housewives" reeled in its largest audience and six weeks while "Grey's Anatomy" hit a season high to push ABC to an easy victory on another busy Sunday in primetime. The second half of CBS' killer-storm miniseries "Category 7: The End of the World" didn't pack quite the same punch as the first half did last Sunday, but it still improved markedly on the eye network's showing this season in adults 18-49 in its 9-11 p.m. movie slot. NBC didn't get much of a bounce in benching its regular Sunday night dramas for a two-hour "Saturday Night Live" 1980s retrospective. "Housewives" popped at 9 p.m. to finish out the night with an average of 26.5 million viewers and 11.1 rating/24 share in the adults 18-49 demographic. "Grey's Anatomy" (20.7 million, 9.1/21) rose to season-high ratings in the 10 p.m. [/quote]
Erasmus Wembly
Nov 17, 2005 @ 2:59 pm
Not much of a surprise, but The Night Stalker (Thursday, 9:00 PM) has been cancelled. So ABC has bombed again on Thursday nights. I think any new series it puts on that night will get killed against CSI. Moving Grey's Anatomy to Thursday at 9:00 next year makes more sense to me. It wouldn't have to beat CSI, but doing the following would make the move a success:
1. Establish an ABC presence on Thursday nights, the most lucrative advertising night of the week.
2. Hurt CSI a little bit, maybe enough to make Desperate Housewives the #1 show on television.
3. Provide a better lead-in to Primetime Live.
I think what they'll do is the same that they did with Boston Legal and Grey's Anatomy. Sometime in the spring (maybe March, after the February sweeps), pull Grey's Anatomy for four or five weeks and put another show in the Sunday 10:00 time slot with Desperate Housewives as a lead-in. If that show does well, like Grey's Anatomy did, then it would come back in that time slot during 2006 - 2007 and Grey's Anatomy could be moved to another night.
bsg27
Nov 17, 2005 @ 3:28 pm
Thursday nights, the most lucrative advertising night of the week.[/quote]
Can someone explain this to me? It seems somewhat counter-intuitive...
I would think the ever-important 18-35 age range (is 18-49 seriously a demographic? - it seems quite broad) would be the least likely to be sitting at home watching television on a Thursday night - the official start of the weekend - of any weeknight.
I suppose college kids are hanging out before going out drinking on Thirsty Thursday later in the evening because for whatever reason at that age it's not "cool" to go out before 11+. And perhaps young professionals would be getting home around 10 or so after Happy Hour(s) post work.
I know when I was young I used to really look forward to Thursdays - it always had the best TV... Cheers way back in the day, 90210 in middle school, and ER in high school, but then when I got to college and since, not so much. I just can't see too many people (well, maybe for GA) re-arranging their social lives for a television show.
At any rate - I hope they don't change the day. I used to dread Sunday nights because you have the whole work week ahead of you. Now I can't wait - GA is really the only show I watch on a regular basis... and more to the point, I'm usually around on Sunday nights. :)
Erasmus Wembly
Nov 17, 2005 @ 4:05 pm
bsg27, Thursdays are the most lucrative advertising night of the week for two reasons:
(1) The movie studios are plugging their movies especially hard in advance of the weekend.
(2) Retailers are also advertising a lot to boost weekend sales.
bsg27
Nov 17, 2005 @ 5:03 pm
Ok. Thanks. That makes sense, I suppose.
My television viewing habits probably aren't your average persons...
Erasmus Wembly
Nov 30, 2005 @ 2:03 pm
More big numbers for GA in the last broadcast (from
Mediaweek):
-Total Viewers:
Desperate Housewives (ABC: 25.89 million), CSI (CBS: 25.72), Grey’s Anatomy (ABC: 19.59), Survivor: Guatemala (CBS: 19.54), Without A Trace (CBS: 19.50), Cold Case (CBS: 19.36), CSI: Miami (CBS: 19.35), Lost (ABC: 19.29), Law & Order: SVU (NBC: 17.08), NCIS (CBS: 16.43) . . .
-Adults 18-49:
Desperate Housewives (ABC: 11.1/24), Grey’s Anatomy (ABC: 8.9/21), CSI (CBS: 8.4/23), Lost (ABC: 7.8/20), Survivor: Guatemala (CBS: 6.6/20), CSI: Miami (CBS: 6.6/16), Extreme Makeover: Home Edition (ABC: 6.5/15), Monday Night Football: Minnesota at Green Bay (ABC: 6.1/16), Without A Trace (CBS: 5.9/17), Law & Order: SVU (NBC: 5.7/15) . . . [/quote]
True, CBS' Thursday lineup was hurt by Thanksgiving, but it's nice to see GA beat CSI in the 18 - 49 demographic. Could GA do it if they went head-to-head? With Alias now ending after this season, Thursday remains a big hole in ABC's lineup.
Mexicanguy
Nov 30, 2005 @ 3:16 pm
GA is
thisclose to get 20 million of viewers!! Yay!
Could GA do it if they went head-to-head?[/quote]
I doubt it. Let's wait and see what happens with AI on January, shall we?
bookie85
Dec 5, 2005 @ 2:06 am
How many more episodes are we going to have until January? Is next week the last one? I need to know how many weeks to set the tape for in my dorm room. Thanks.
flux
Dec 7, 2005 @ 6:45 pm
It looks like next week is the last episode until it goes on hiatus. ABC is rerunning some episodes from Season 2. There's no confirmation as to when the show will return, but a few peeps from the board are speculating that it'll come back around Feb in time for the Super Bowl lead-in.
jewlmc
Dec 7, 2005 @ 10:24 pm
Actually I heard on the ABC board that it would return on Jan 8 with a new episode.
flux
Dec 7, 2005 @ 10:28 pm
In that case, yay! They still have 14 episdoes after next weeks so we'll be able to enjoy GA for another 3.5 months.
Chikolati
Dec 9, 2005 @ 9:53 am
Does anyone know which episodes will be re-aired from now until Jan 8th?
I must have been living under a rock because I never watched and now I'm waiting for the Season 1 DVDs to come out Feb 14th. I'd like to tape as much as I can of season 2 beforehand so I have some idea of what's going on. I already have episodes 10 and 11 (Nov 27, Dec 4) from this season taped.
Coma Girl
Dec 9, 2005 @ 1:14 pm
Does anyone know which episodes will be re-aired from now until Jan 8th?[/quote]One place to check is
tv-now.com. They usually have listings out several weeks in advance.
Erasmus Wembly
Dec 9, 2005 @ 1:27 pm
This week should be a good test for the show. It will be airing without a Desperate Housewives lead-in, new or rerun, for the first time. Instead, there will be a two-hour Extreme Makeover: Home Edition. The competition will be stiff, with GA going against the Survivor: Guatemala reunion show, which will have the benefit of the two-hour Survivor: Guatemala finale as a lead-in. I feel confident that GA will win the time period, but the big question will be if it can maintain its recent big ratings without the lead-in and against strong competition.
Anybody want to go out on a limb and make a prediction about what's going to happen ratings-wise on Sunday night? Will the ratings be up, down, or unchanged from the week before? I have confidence in the GA fans and predict unchanged.
flux
Dec 9, 2005 @ 1:42 pm
I think GA will do fine without DH. Most people I know were addicted to DH before but now they can't wait for it finish so they can watch GA. I just got my EW subscription today and GA actually beat out Survivor in the ratings last week or it came really close.
Survivor is getting old and the contestants this year is not as dynamic as previous years. I don't watch the show and I don't watch Extreme Makeover either so I can't really say if they're good or bad.
I predict the ratings will stay steady.
Beffers
Dec 9, 2005 @ 2:43 pm
I predict the ratings will stay steady.[/quote]
Me too. Wasn't there a flurry of media articles about a month or so ago, when GA did very well in the ratings, when it didn't have a new DH ep as a lead in ? Then the very next day, TPTB announced they were so happy with GA passing this big "test" of doing well without a DH lead in, that they were awarding it the big post SuperBowl timeslot ?
Does anyone know which episodes will be re-aired from now until Jan 8th?[/quote]
I think they will be Eps 1-3 of the current season.
Competition from Survivor doesn't worry me in the least. Most weeks it can't even crack the Top 10, let alone the Top 5 that GA is a permanant squatter in these days.
prue
Dec 9, 2005 @ 11:53 pm
“The ABC Television Network will air the premiere of its new midseason drama, “In Justice,” on SUNDAY, JANUARY 1 (10:00-11:00 p.m., ET), it was announced today by Stephen McPherson, president, ABC Entertainment. The premiere will immediately follow an all new “Desperate Housewives” recap special entitled “All the Juicy Details.” [/quote]
http://www.thefutoncritic.com/cgi/pr.cgi?id=20051209abc01Did I miss the news that GA was going to be moved? Or are they airing this show for just one week in that timeslot, then moving it?
markedel
Dec 10, 2005 @ 12:01 am
“In Justice” will have its regular time period premiere Friday, January 6 (9:00-10:00 p.m., ET). [/quote]
(from the source)
http://www.thefutoncritic.com/cgi/pr.cgi?id=20051209abc01
prue
Dec 10, 2005 @ 6:19 am
Oh, that's what I get for just reading what was posted elsewhere. So sorry, and thanks, markedel.
Erasmus Wembly
Dec 12, 2005 @ 11:59 am
Looks like
Survivor can't be written off yet. According to
zap2it, GA had a rating of 10.5 last night going against the overrun end of
Survivor and its reunion show. GA won its time period, but was down 20% from its rating of 13.1 the week before.
chilliwilli
Dec 12, 2005 @ 1:42 pm
Looks like Survivor can't be written off yet. According to zap2it, GA had a rating of 10.5 last night going against the overrun end of Survivor and its reunion show. GA won its time period, but was down 20% from its rating of 13.1 the week before.[/quote]
I know that for me, as a Wisconsinite, GA wasn't even on until 12:00ish (scheduled to start at 11:35) due to a Packer vs. Lions game on ABC that went into overtime. Maybe that makes up for at least some of the 20% missing from the week before.
Cameltoes
Dec 13, 2005 @ 2:07 am
Looks like Survivor can't be written off yet. According to zap2it, GA had a rating of 10.5 last night going against the overrun end of Survivor and its reunion show. GA won its time period, but was down 20% from its rating of 13.1 the week before. [/quote]
Survivor's numbers are always insanely consistent no matter what is up against it. Even DH took a hit despite winning it's timeslot. I think GA had a very impressive showing taking everything into account. I would be really surprised if ABC didn't move GA next season.
JeS 47
Dec 19, 2005 @ 1:56 pm
The latest grid at ABCmedianet is listing the January 8th episode, Straight to the Heart, as a "Recap Special." The next new episode will be on January 15th, and the title is Begin the Begin.
Swipsey32
Dec 19, 2005 @ 11:44 pm
What's a recap special ?
Swipsey32
Dec 19, 2005 @ 11:44 pm
What's a recap special ?
flux
Dec 19, 2005 @ 11:47 pm
Swips, you double posted! :::waves:::
I think the recap special is just like what DH did a while ago with them showing clips from past episodes and some behind the scenes footage.
Swipsey32
Dec 20, 2005 @ 1:57 am
Swips, you double posted![/quote]
Really ? If I did, it wasn't my fault, it's the TwoP software.
and some behind the scenes footage.[/quote]
Seriousley ? I love the behind the scenes stuff.
ParadiseFound
Dec 20, 2005 @ 8:59 am
The latest grid at ABCmedianet is listing the January 8th episode, Straight to the Heart, as a "Recap Special." The next new episode will be on January 15th, and the title is Begin the Begin. [/quote]
ugh! I really don't want to hear that. Now, it will be even longer until we get a brand new GA episode. :(
winebox
Dec 25, 2005 @ 10:20 am
I'm excited that tonight's ep is one I missed where we find out bitch Addison cheated on McDreamy with his best friend, and it hasn't been recapped either. During Season One I was always fighting to stay up for GA, this season I make a point of taking a nap on Sunday afternoon so I can stay up for it, then post about it afterward.
swatrox350
Jan 1, 2006 @ 6:21 pm
Baah... Why aren't they showing an episode (even an old episode) of Grey's Anatomy tonight?
stupid In Justice (or whatever that show is called). That's not going to be a permanent or semi-permanent replacement is it?
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