Great stuff, but I was waiting for the line from the previews, something like "there's something missing in you." What was that about and who was it addressed to?[/quote]
That along with "What the hell's missing with you" is PAST things said. The promo said "If you think he's been angry before". [/quote]
Those were just clips from past episodes.
That along with "What the hell's missing with you" is PAST things said. The promo said "If you think he's been angry before". [/quote]
Those were just clips from past episodes.
So sorry to see James and Mark go. They were odd looking, but not in an ugly way. They reminded me of the Krays (?) - those Irish brothers who killled people and were very scary.
Marshawn is pretty.
Marshawn is pretty.
To whoever talked about "less sponsors:" remember the ship that was headed to NY and got hit by a wave? I'd bet that was season 4.
And, I'm stuck at work for hours! Someone tell me about Carolyn! Did she just present the task in the BR or was there more of her in charge?
And, I'm stuck at work for hours! Someone tell me about Carolyn! Did she just present the task in the BR or was there more of her in charge?
That. Was. Frickin'. Awesome.
We all just sat around for like five seconds, totally stunned. How frickin' awesome was that? At first I just wanted Jen to go but then when they entered the boardroom and Josh started blaming everyone else, I knew he had to go too. Mark and James were a total surprise and, in some ways, vaguely unfair, but I don't really care, cos I've still got Raaaaaaaaaandal!!!!!
From the first shot of the batting cage, I thought the idea was totally off. If they're supposed to have these "stations", then why is the batting cage taking up the entire center area? Practically everyone in America loves baseball, even if they hate it, they secretly love it - this could have been a good event but it was just turned the wrong way. All much as I hate to admit it, Capital Edge totally deserved the win (but not Fartkus - what did we actually see him do other than talking to Carolyn and using a dangerous knife in a vastly inappropriate method?).
Alla was a pleasant surprise in how she very firmly directed the project, especially her handling of Clay. Love the scene where she says "Cut it out." Just like a mom. I disliked her, though, for showing signs of the Coven Pt. 2 and getting rid of Marshawn and Rebecca.
To the poster upthread who mentioned fears of Jen's immediate implosion: that would have been frickin' awesome. She was seriously out of control! So funny, especially compared to Caroyln, who was the picture of serenity.
Felisha....the bell is tolling for thee...
We all just sat around for like five seconds, totally stunned. How frickin' awesome was that? At first I just wanted Jen to go but then when they entered the boardroom and Josh started blaming everyone else, I knew he had to go too. Mark and James were a total surprise and, in some ways, vaguely unfair, but I don't really care, cos I've still got Raaaaaaaaaandal!!!!!
From the first shot of the batting cage, I thought the idea was totally off. If they're supposed to have these "stations", then why is the batting cage taking up the entire center area? Practically everyone in America loves baseball, even if they hate it, they secretly love it - this could have been a good event but it was just turned the wrong way. All much as I hate to admit it, Capital Edge totally deserved the win (but not Fartkus - what did we actually see him do other than talking to Carolyn and using a dangerous knife in a vastly inappropriate method?).
Alla was a pleasant surprise in how she very firmly directed the project, especially her handling of Clay. Love the scene where she says "Cut it out." Just like a mom. I disliked her, though, for showing signs of the Coven Pt. 2 and getting rid of Marshawn and Rebecca.
To the poster upthread who mentioned fears of Jen's immediate implosion: that would have been frickin' awesome. She was seriously out of control! So funny, especially compared to Caroyln, who was the picture of serenity.
Felisha....the bell is tolling for thee...
I think people on this show have to realize they need to stand up for themselves and look out for themselves, and they're never truly safe.[/quote]
See, to me Survivor is about never being truly safe. TA was about performing well enough so that you were safe. IMO the random firings that surfaced bigtime in S2 are a huge problem. They were better in S3 and up until now much more in line with the greatness of S1.
But now, the more I think about it the less I like it. Trump went ratings-whoring and sadly it will probably work.
See, to me Survivor is about never being truly safe. TA was about performing well enough so that you were safe. IMO the random firings that surfaced bigtime in S2 are a huge problem. They were better in S3 and up until now much more in line with the greatness of S1.
But now, the more I think about it the less I like it. Trump went ratings-whoring and sadly it will probably work.
Wow, that was so excessive, and decadent. It was like the Versailles of board rooms. It was just so absurd, I loved it!
To me, no cab ride can top Blinky and Wes. I actually laughed out loud when he fired the four of them, because I thought of them all riding in the same cab, and I thought of Blinky. oh, Blinky.
And I was totally with Randall -- I like to keep fish as pets, not hook them with fishing poles!
To me, no cab ride can top Blinky and Wes. I actually laughed out loud when he fired the four of them, because I thought of them all riding in the same cab, and I thought of Blinky. oh, Blinky.
And I was totally with Randall -- I like to keep fish as pets, not hook them with fishing poles!
I'll tell ya this: I don't know if it was Trumps idea, or Mark Burnett's to fire all four, but I guarantee you those folks remaining will be sincerely motivated next week -
I'm talking "Selling Yo-yo's to amputees" motivated.
I'm talking "Selling Yo-yo's to amputees" motivated.
The inability of Josh to replace the erect PenisPhone in its holster made me laugh and laugh. Oh, the metaphors.[/quote]
Ha! Yes, I noticed that. Awesome.
I don't have much else to say at the moment. Fantastic.
Ha! Yes, I noticed that. Awesome.
I don't have much else to say at the moment. Fantastic.
On the topic of "What if nobody comes back", IMO, it would be funny as hell if no one waited for those four to return, as if they had a hunch that it was coming. Just a random spitball; however, no one waited for Amy when she returned from the Boardroom after her only loss.
However, given that Bloven is just Felisha and Alla, and the fact that gave the opposition the worst loss ever, I think I like the new Bloven now. However, Randal needs to get the hell off of that team, given Bloven and Clay, or else they'll screw him over.
However, given that Bloven is just Felisha and Alla, and the fact that gave the opposition the worst loss ever, I think I like the new Bloven now. However, Randal needs to get the hell off of that team, given Bloven and Clay, or else they'll screw him over.
Alla's wasn't all talk and no action -- I was impressed. Hope she continues to do well.
I can't believe that they were SELLING the hot dogs and pretzels - those should have been giveaways!
Also, I just don't know how the Baseball people could waste 2 people in the batting area. Golf people were clearly going to win as all of them were totally focused on sales.
Also, I just don't know how the Baseball people could waste 2 people in the batting area. Golf people were clearly going to win as all of them were totally focused on sales.
Other than a few bats, what else did Rebecca and Marshawn sell that would logically make them exempt from this massacre? The short dude, of course, was exempt because he was the winning project manager last week. However, neither Marshawn nor Rebecca was in a position to run a baseball clinic since Rebecca was temporarily hobbled and neither probably knows much about the sport. That was left to Mark and James, unfortunately for them. It seems unfair that they should be punished for attempting to create the draw for this dumb sales task. In retrospect, they would have been better off ditching their assigned duties and just blending in with the rest of the staff at Dick's to sell sportswear and sneakers. The four-person firing might have been satisfying for dramatic purposes, but it was a mighty inconsistent move on Trump's part. There were several occasions over the past three seasons when Trump also could have justifiably fired two or more people at a time, but he didn't. I won't lose sleep over it, but I did not like tonight's surprise twist.
"Life continues" [/quote]
...after The Apprentice.
Maybe Trump is looking beyond the lifespan of this show. Because as fun as this was, the show wasn't earthshattering, IMHO. Reality TV just doesn't have the edge it did a mere 3 or 4 years ago. I'm glad I was there for its golden age.
This mass firing did bring back some spark, though. I just hope I don't see a multiple firing every week or see it duplicated on Martha's show, Survivor, etc.
I would like to have known whose idea it was to change the plan from 4 stations to the batting cage.
...after The Apprentice.
Maybe Trump is looking beyond the lifespan of this show. Because as fun as this was, the show wasn't earthshattering, IMHO. Reality TV just doesn't have the edge it did a mere 3 or 4 years ago. I'm glad I was there for its golden age.
This mass firing did bring back some spark, though. I just hope I don't see a multiple firing every week or see it duplicated on Martha's show, Survivor, etc.
I would like to have known whose idea it was to change the plan from 4 stations to the batting cage.
I kind of knew it was coming, so I wasn't so overly shocked about the mass firing, but I did feel a little bad for Mark and James because they so clearly weren't expecting it. And while nobody did well and they were slaughtered, I agree with the concept that it's not like James could have left the batting cage unattended once the event started. The other two more than deserved to go.
Alla did a pretty good leadership job and you know what, her and Felicia aren't nearly as annoying without Kristi around.
Was glad Rebecca and Marshawn were spared.
Though my question is, what happens now? The others just sit in the suite and nobody comes back up? Does somebody tell them what happened or do they just have to sit and wonder until the next task?
Alla did a pretty good leadership job and you know what, her and Felicia aren't nearly as annoying without Kristi around.
Was glad Rebecca and Marshawn were spared.
Though my question is, what happens now? The others just sit in the suite and nobody comes back up? Does somebody tell them what happened or do they just have to sit and wonder until the next task?
Me at the top of my voice: NO WAY! Then laughing in pure delight. Mr. Swallow. who doesn't even watch the Apprentice, came running in to see what was going on. I feel a little glow of love for the Donald. I need to go lie down.
Dear Marcus,
sabring champagne is considered EXTREMELY uncouth, akin to opening a beer can with your teeth. It takes a VERY long time to get all those tiny little bubbles into the champagne, and releasing them all at once is a waste and disrespectful to the drink. Spraying champagne all over the place by popping the cork (or sabring) is only done by people who don't know any better, or else who are business jerks and want to show off for the other business jerks. Of course, you know all about champagne and being polite, so I don't need to tell you all this....
oh, wait. Never mind.
Let's start over:
Dear business Jerks,
if you increase sales in your department by 74%, and the other team decreases sales by 38% in a different department, have you sold 112% more than the other team? Of course not, because it depends on how much the AVERAGE FOR EACH DEPARTMENT is. Adding up fractional amounts like percentages often leads to meaningless bullshit statistics that get quoted for shock value on TV shows. Of course, you're all business experts, so I don't need to explain any of this to you...
oh, wait.
Shit.
Also, Best. Firing. Ever.
sabring champagne is considered EXTREMELY uncouth, akin to opening a beer can with your teeth. It takes a VERY long time to get all those tiny little bubbles into the champagne, and releasing them all at once is a waste and disrespectful to the drink. Spraying champagne all over the place by popping the cork (or sabring) is only done by people who don't know any better, or else who are business jerks and want to show off for the other business jerks. Of course, you know all about champagne and being polite, so I don't need to tell you all this....
oh, wait. Never mind.
Let's start over:
Dear business Jerks,
if you increase sales in your department by 74%, and the other team decreases sales by 38% in a different department, have you sold 112% more than the other team? Of course not, because it depends on how much the AVERAGE FOR EACH DEPARTMENT is. Adding up fractional amounts like percentages often leads to meaningless bullshit statistics that get quoted for shock value on TV shows. Of course, you're all business experts, so I don't need to explain any of this to you...
oh, wait.
Shit.
Also, Best. Firing. Ever.
An unfortunate consequence of this otherwise hilarious mass firing is that three of the "fraternity brothers" are gone, and this will inevitably lead Markus to believe he is better than them and was right all along in his opinion of and behavior toward his team. Which, IMO, he was not, both as to the former and the latter. I think as soon as Markus finds out, he'll become even more insufferably smug and assbackwardsly-unhelpful, because his feeling that he is the kind of man Trump wants will have been validated.
Holy. Fucking. Shit. That was awesome! "Life goes on." Well played, Donald. Well played, indeed.
On another, less shocking note, Alla rules.
On another, less shocking note, Alla rules.
That? Was damn funny.
I'm mean, logically speaking, I don't think Mark or James had to go, and I even thought the whole "your mad baseball skillz didn't help you win, nyah-nyah" shpiel Trump was directing at James was both random and kinda below the belt, but still--damn funny. And all crammed into the cab? Priceless.
And oh, I love Randal for admitting when he first heard the reward he was all, "Fuck. I mean, yea!" because I would totally be like that about most, if not all of these seasons rewards. I'd rather nap. And I love Adam for saying, essentially, "If I've learned one thing in this "job interview process," it's that sportfishing RAWKS." Hey, that's more specific, and possibly more useful than "Money Matters." Or "life continues," which is admittedly awesome in its total dismissiveness and Captain-Obviousness. Whereas Markus? Nothing to say. Except that I've been told the really good champagne actually doesn't explode all over like that, but maybe it was just him being spastic.
Okay, I'm not particularly a Star Wars person, but the Chewbacca joke? I mean, when I read Star Wars references in fanfiction I tend to go, "Ah, yes. A Star Wars joke. Now you're cool." Is there something I'm missing that makes that not just WTFever?
I was kind of creeped out by Clay taking Alla's wrists when he pulled her aside to chat/bitch. Maybe I'm particularly picky about personal touch issues, but no, co-irker. And it made me uncomfortable in a weird way, like his mannerism was supposed to be, "OMG I'm so gay, I can totally touch her." That probably doesn't say what I mean well--I don't mean he shouldn't have done it because he's gay--I'd be creeped out by any co-worker holding my hands/wrists while they talked to me. I don't know. It bugged. ETA: I think it seemed to me like he affected a particularly stereotypical gay and/or effeminate head tilt and tone (as in, noticeably different from his normal demeanor) when he was talking to Alla, and that, combined with the wrist holding, icked me a bit. :is paranoid about being misinterpreted:
Jen seemed a lot harsher this week, even before the Boardroom--like even her make-up was trying to be TUFF, as opposed to the super bouncy pony-tail of last week. And I couldn't decide whether to laugh at, be annoyed by, or be embarrassed for Josh as he kept making faces whenever anyone else during the boardroom.
I'm curious to see if Alla's dumping of Rebecca and Marshawn will come back to haunt her, since Trump made his opinion on them pretty clear. I'd have loved a comment from Carolyn about the reshuffling.
I'm mean, logically speaking, I don't think Mark or James had to go, and I even thought the whole "your mad baseball skillz didn't help you win, nyah-nyah" shpiel Trump was directing at James was both random and kinda below the belt, but still--damn funny. And all crammed into the cab? Priceless.
And oh, I love Randal for admitting when he first heard the reward he was all, "Fuck. I mean, yea!" because I would totally be like that about most, if not all of these seasons rewards. I'd rather nap. And I love Adam for saying, essentially, "If I've learned one thing in this "job interview process," it's that sportfishing RAWKS." Hey, that's more specific, and possibly more useful than "Money Matters." Or "life continues," which is admittedly awesome in its total dismissiveness and Captain-Obviousness. Whereas Markus? Nothing to say. Except that I've been told the really good champagne actually doesn't explode all over like that, but maybe it was just him being spastic.
Okay, I'm not particularly a Star Wars person, but the Chewbacca joke? I mean, when I read Star Wars references in fanfiction I tend to go, "Ah, yes. A Star Wars joke. Now you're cool." Is there something I'm missing that makes that not just WTFever?
I was kind of creeped out by Clay taking Alla's wrists when he pulled her aside to chat/bitch. Maybe I'm particularly picky about personal touch issues, but no, co-irker. And it made me uncomfortable in a weird way, like his mannerism was supposed to be, "OMG I'm so gay, I can totally touch her." That probably doesn't say what I mean well--I don't mean he shouldn't have done it because he's gay--I'd be creeped out by any co-worker holding my hands/wrists while they talked to me. I don't know. It bugged. ETA: I think it seemed to me like he affected a particularly stereotypical gay and/or effeminate head tilt and tone (as in, noticeably different from his normal demeanor) when he was talking to Alla, and that, combined with the wrist holding, icked me a bit. :is paranoid about being misinterpreted:
Jen seemed a lot harsher this week, even before the Boardroom--like even her make-up was trying to be TUFF, as opposed to the super bouncy pony-tail of last week. And I couldn't decide whether to laugh at, be annoyed by, or be embarrassed for Josh as he kept making faces whenever anyone else during the boardroom.
I'm curious to see if Alla's dumping of Rebecca and Marshawn will come back to haunt her, since Trump made his opinion on them pretty clear. I'd have loved a comment from Carolyn about the reshuffling.
Though my question is, what happens now? The others just sit in the suite and nobody comes back up? Does somebody tell them what happened or do they just have to sit and wonder until the next task?[/quote]
I'm guessing that either Robin will call and tell them or they'll do like when they had the team shuffle in TA2 and call everyone back to the Boardroom immediately.
I'm guessing that either Robin will call and tell them or they'll do like when they had the team shuffle in TA2 and call everyone back to the Boardroom immediately.
As much as that boardroom kicked ass, it could have kicked more.
How? At the end of the Proverbial Long Quiet Car Ride Home, one of them could have said simply, 'Well. That went well.'
How? At the end of the Proverbial Long Quiet Car Ride Home, one of them could have said simply, 'Well. That went well.'
I'm as giddy as a schoolboy!... I must...I must stand on my head![/quote]
FleaBailey, off-topic, but that is one of my favorite movies!
FleaBailey, off-topic, but that is one of my favorite movies!
Trump's glowering face and turtle-necked slumping posture when he said "Life continues" after the Hottie Massacre entertained me. Like who the fuck are you, King Lear?
And if so, thou shouldst not have been old til thou hadst been wise, Trumpy.
And if so, thou shouldst not have been old til thou hadst been wise, Trumpy.
I'll tell ya this: I don't know if it was Trumps idea, or Mark Burnett's to fire all four, but I guarantee you those folks remaining will be sincerely motivated next week -
I'm talking "Selling Yo-yo's to amputees" motivated.[/quote]
That just made me laugh WAY too much!!!
I have a question about the goal of the task, so please someone correct me if I'm wrong here. But it seemed like the goal was to increase sales for one particular sport. Like the golfing section saw a 74% increase in sales.
Well, why not target a product that doesn't sell mostly and build a promotion around it. Like say the bowling section makes an average of $500 in sales a day. Do a promotion to get people into the store, set up a great bowling section, all they would have to do is sell $1000 of bowling supplies and they will have increased sales for that sport by 100%. It's almost an instant win.
I'm talking "Selling Yo-yo's to amputees" motivated.[/quote]
That just made me laugh WAY too much!!!
I have a question about the goal of the task, so please someone correct me if I'm wrong here. But it seemed like the goal was to increase sales for one particular sport. Like the golfing section saw a 74% increase in sales.
Well, why not target a product that doesn't sell mostly and build a promotion around it. Like say the bowling section makes an average of $500 in sales a day. Do a promotion to get people into the store, set up a great bowling section, all they would have to do is sell $1000 of bowling supplies and they will have increased sales for that sport by 100%. It's almost an instant win.
The blank space at the top of my post is my moment of silence in tribute to the best cab ride evah. I never thought they could top Wes' wish I had my own cab ride comment. I was most definitely wrong.
Bill, you big exec, have you ever heard of a Palm Pilot, or Blackberry? I found it odd he jotted notes down on pen and paper.
I guess DT is reusing old footage. Did anyone else notice his message of the week footage showed Carolyn with much shorter hair?
ETA: My prediction for next week is they are all going to be called to the BR thinking DT has to clarify something before the firing. They will walk into an empty BR with equally empty looks on their faces.
Bill, you big exec, have you ever heard of a Palm Pilot, or Blackberry? I found it odd he jotted notes down on pen and paper.
I guess DT is reusing old footage. Did anyone else notice his message of the week footage showed Carolyn with much shorter hair?
ETA: My prediction for next week is they are all going to be called to the BR thinking DT has to clarify something before the firing. They will walk into an empty BR with equally empty looks on their faces.
I read in an interview during/after Season 1, that they only pack a few necessities in their suitcases for the boardroom, and then a production assistant packs up the rest of the stuff after someone is fired.
I guess that the others will figure out what happens when the crew shows up for a mass-packing! I hope we get to see their faces when they find out.
I guess that the others will figure out what happens when the crew shows up for a mass-packing! I hope we get to see their faces when they find out.
I can't wait to see next week when the others are all sitting in the suite, waiting, waiting, waiting..[/quote]
I seriously wondering. I can just see the contestants sitting up all night, wondering when the hell they are coming back. And by the time they realise what happen, it will be time for the next task. Hee!
That was awesome. One of the best boardrooms ever! I did feel a bit sorry for James, and Jennifer was my eye-candy, but it was still awesome. And deserved in my opinion. They totally fucked up, and actually being in the negatives is just sad.
It is amusing that Josh is gone, while Markus and Clay are still around. But I'm okay with it since both are on borrowed time. Markus is still acting like a doofus, and Clay is even starting to annoy Randal. The clock is ticking for these two jerks.
Alla did good. I can defintley see her in the F4 with Marshawn, Randal, and maybe Rebecca.
Good job, Donald! Martha better pull something out her ass next week. Because it's going to be hard to beat this episode.
I seriously wondering. I can just see the contestants sitting up all night, wondering when the hell they are coming back. And by the time they realise what happen, it will be time for the next task. Hee!
That was awesome. One of the best boardrooms ever! I did feel a bit sorry for James, and Jennifer was my eye-candy, but it was still awesome. And deserved in my opinion. They totally fucked up, and actually being in the negatives is just sad.
It is amusing that Josh is gone, while Markus and Clay are still around. But I'm okay with it since both are on borrowed time. Markus is still acting like a doofus, and Clay is even starting to annoy Randal. The clock is ticking for these two jerks.
Alla did good. I can defintley see her in the F4 with Marshawn, Randal, and maybe Rebecca.
Good job, Donald! Martha better pull something out her ass next week. Because it's going to be hard to beat this episode.
Now how many times have I been watching this stupid show and wished that he'd fire the whole lot of them? And then he goes and does it. I don't know if this was spoiled, but it sure shocked me. It may have been a bit unfair to Mark, but you know what? I just don't care. Hahahahaha. Be gone with you, famewhores, one and all.
I can't stop laughing about the clown cab ride of shame. Hee!
In other news, Markus is still Dorkus Maximus.
I can't stop laughing about the clown cab ride of shame. Hee!
In other news, Markus is still Dorkus Maximus.
The only thing that would have made this firing the Absolute Bestest Most Grand Firing EVAH is if the Trumpinator had gotten rid of that damn yappy Pomeranian, Clay.[/quote]
Yes, that would have been nice. Would have made me feel a whole lot better too!
Yes, that would have been nice. Would have made me feel a whole lot better too!
But I'm okay with it since both are on borrowed time. Markus is still acting like a doofus, and Clay is even starting to annoy Randal. The clock is ticking for these two jerks.[/quote]
True. That's some consolation for me.
True. That's some consolation for me.
I'm curious to see if Alla's dumping of Rebecca and Marshawn will come back to haunt her, since Trump made his opinion on them pretty clear. I'd have loved a comment from Carolyn about the reshuffling.[/quote]
After her team won in a blowout he might not be able to criticize her. She can claim the leg injury for why she got rid of Rebecca. Marshawn seems to be a strong player, but all we see her do now is complain, so that decision did not surprise me as much as it should have.
After her team won in a blowout he might not be able to criticize her. She can claim the leg injury for why she got rid of Rebecca. Marshawn seems to be a strong player, but all we see her do now is complain, so that decision did not surprise me as much as it should have.
But I'm okay with it since both are on borrowed time. Markus is still acting like a doofus, and Clay is even starting to annoy Randal.[/quote]
Clay and Randal have had tension for several episodes. Randal's criticism was very respectable, to his credit. No 'he's a little girl' or Hitler comparisons.
Markus and Clay have some screws loose but that made their team win even better for me. It was the freaks and the trash kicking the asses of all the bullies and morons who love to brag about the size of their dicks, until they actually have to take them out of their pants. Mark and Josh were on borrowed time. James, bad luck. Jen should have been fired last episode.
Clay and Randal have had tension for several episodes. Randal's criticism was very respectable, to his credit. No 'he's a little girl' or Hitler comparisons.
Markus and Clay have some screws loose but that made their team win even better for me. It was the freaks and the trash kicking the asses of all the bullies and morons who love to brag about the size of their dicks, until they actually have to take them out of their pants. Mark and Josh were on borrowed time. James, bad luck. Jen should have been fired last episode.
I'm not sure if this was mentioned but the margin of victory was 108% not the 111% mentioned by someone on the boat.
The fact that James didn't do anything [/quote]
I'll miss James, but he HAD to go. It seems that he alone should have had a mental picture of the size of the batting cage since that's his area of expertise and known in advance that it would be too large to carry out the original plan. His inability to see that and inform Josh lost the task.
I'll miss James, but he HAD to go. It seems that he alone should have had a mental picture of the size of the batting cage since that's his area of expertise and known in advance that it would be too large to carry out the original plan. His inability to see that and inform Josh lost the task.
I've seen batting cages much smaller than that. So I'm not sure they would know how large it was until it arrived.
How ironic is it that this episode started with Carolyn noting how "decimated" the Capital Edge team had been after losing so many tasks straight, then ended with the Excel team losing fully half of its members in one fell swoop?
Two questions: Does this mean there has to be another reshuffling next week? (HEE! Excel can't say who their losers are, since they all got traded or fired this week!)
My second question: What would have happened if Carolyn had been in charge of the firing, as well? (I think she would have just gone straight to the Final Four, and skipped the rest of the B.S., ratings be damned!)
ITA with everyone on this: Best. Cabride. EVER.
Two questions: Does this mean there has to be another reshuffling next week? (HEE! Excel can't say who their losers are, since they all got traded or fired this week!)
My second question: What would have happened if Carolyn had been in charge of the firing, as well? (I think she would have just gone straight to the Final Four, and skipped the rest of the B.S., ratings be damned!)
ITA with everyone on this: Best. Cabride. EVER.
In spite of a wealth of material, I found the most idiotic idea of the night to be Rebecca's. The task was to increase sales of sports equipment. Golf presents many opportunities for sales. Rebecca suggested they focus on soccer. The equipment for that sport consists of - what? The ball?
I think it was nice firing everyone like that. After a loss that terrible, something drastic had to be done. I'm not so sure that Jennifer deserved it though. OK, she sold slightly less than the others. She has to go because she talked a lot of "game" beforehand? I mean, the reason she couldn't sell anything was because EVERYONE WAS DISTRACTED BY THAT STUPID FUCKING BASEBALL THING! The team knew this but didn't seem to process that THAT THING was the reason the sales didn't work. It was the reason NOTHING worked. So, I think Jennifer made a lot of sense with the "not being given a good opportunity" thing.
Josh or whatever his name is sucks it hard. I hate him.
Josh or whatever his name is sucks it hard. I hate him.
I was pretty sure when Capital Edge picked golf, and Excel picked baseball, that Excel was screwed. Baseball purchases aren't impulse-driven, and there's not much luxury high-end stuff. You buy baseball stuff when you need it. People just don't buy a 2nd bat or a 3rd glove, and even if they do, there's not much money in it. Golf was probably the best choice (and it was Markus' idea, btw), although something like home exercise equipment might have worked also. My opinion was sealed when I saw how big that cage was, and how it was going to swamp any sales stations. Once again, a team fails to pay attention to the task goals.
The boardroom? Priceless. And the cab ride was LOL stuff.
I also can't wait to see the reactions in the suite next week.
The boardroom? Priceless. And the cab ride was LOL stuff.
I also can't wait to see the reactions in the suite next week.
The worst part of James' firing was that we never saw much of him at all until this episode. It was like he cruelly teased us with his full, plump lips and wavy hair then just took them away. I mean...they. They just teased us.
Damn...no eye candy left. That's brutal.
I loved how they heaped all sorts of praise on Rebecca for sales. When it comes down to brass tax, there weren't many sales . It's not like she sold thousands of dollars of merchandise. 30% (or how ever much she supposedly sold) of a -34% loss is still...well...not a lot.
Damn...no eye candy left. That's brutal.
I loved how they heaped all sorts of praise on Rebecca for sales. When it comes down to brass tax, there weren't many sales . It's not like she sold thousands of dollars of merchandise. 30% (or how ever much she supposedly sold) of a -34% loss is still...well...not a lot.
Even though Excel were masters of their own fate due to their totally missing the sales focus, I thought that Capital Edge's choice of golf was much smarter because there was so much more to sell. Golfers always need balls (12 year olds - insert joke here), there are clothes, new clubs, tees, all kinds of golfing chotchkes. What do you need to play baseball? A bat, a glove, a baseball . . . Not a lot of renewables. If I'm buying baseball equipment for my kid, unless I already know that he's the next Ted Williams (or Jennie Finch, for that matter), I'm not spending big bucks on equipment - I'm going to get him the basics and see how he does, then upgrade.
The equipment for that sport consists of - what? The ball?[/quote]
Not quite. Certain attire is requried, especially the right kind of shoes, unless someone wants to twist their ankles in the grass. But, clothing, padding, footwear would be involved.
I don't think her idea was bad, it's just that soccer is not quite as popular as baseball or football. Unless of course, they're in Europe.
Not quite. Certain attire is requried, especially the right kind of shoes, unless someone wants to twist their ankles in the grass. But, clothing, padding, footwear would be involved.
I don't think her idea was bad, it's just that soccer is not quite as popular as baseball or football. Unless of course, they're in Europe.
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Ah, I was wondering about that. Well, credit where it's due and all that.
Ah, I was wondering about that. Well, credit where it's due and all that.
While golf is probably the sport with the most and highest priced doodads, soccer has required equipment too. Cleats, jerseys, kneepads, stuff like that. But baseball was better because there are more doodads. Equipment. Whatever.
And the batting cage should have been "three at-bats with purchase" or something like that.
Also, not to harp on my hormonal bereavement, but: who do we have left to look at? Markus, Clay, Adam and Randal? Randal's kinda cute, but no way no how that those others are going to equal even one wavy lock or masculine dimple of James. Bastards.
And the batting cage should have been "three at-bats with purchase" or something like that.
Also, not to harp on my hormonal bereavement, but: who do we have left to look at? Markus, Clay, Adam and Randal? Randal's kinda cute, but no way no how that those others are going to equal even one wavy lock or masculine dimple of James. Bastards.
Wow! That was some episode. Not sure I'd have fired all of them, but I do think I'd have fired Jen, the project manager (Josh?), and possibly the baseball player (can't remember his name). Don't know what the other guy did to deserved being sacked, but it all sure made for great TV.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought Excel's fate was sealed as soon as they picked baseball and the other team picked golf. Golf is a game that many people play seriously or casually, and there's a lot of stuff you need to buy to even begin to play the game, much of it expensive. I don't think baseball has so many fans that play the game casually, probably not as many as there used to be, at least. And those pickup games that are played often seem to require little more from each player than a glove, as long as there's a bat or two available. Perhaps more money could have been made from fan apparel, such as Derek Jeter jerseys and the like. But it seems to me like golf had an instant edge, even if the percentage increase or decrease was only counted within each sport.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought Excel's fate was sealed as soon as they picked baseball and the other team picked golf. Golf is a game that many people play seriously or casually, and there's a lot of stuff you need to buy to even begin to play the game, much of it expensive. I don't think baseball has so many fans that play the game casually, probably not as many as there used to be, at least. And those pickup games that are played often seem to require little more from each player than a glove, as long as there's a bat or two available. Perhaps more money could have been made from fan apparel, such as Derek Jeter jerseys and the like. But it seems to me like golf had an instant edge, even if the percentage increase or decrease was only counted within each sport.
I imagine that next week's episode is going to start, after the CWDW discussion, with both teams being called down immediately to the boardroom and have a new reshuffling. That's actually a bit of a shame, because a Rebecca, Marshawn, and Brian team would likely defeat the other team as long as the task wasn't too labor intensive.
I agree that a quadruple cobra firing would have been more awesome. I would have wet myself if His Royal Hairness quoted Homer Simpson when he cuts everyone in the closing credits in the Bart Star episode:
I agree that a quadruple cobra firing would have been more awesome. I would have wet myself if His Royal Hairness quoted Homer Simpson when he cuts everyone in the closing credits in the Bart Star episode:
You're cut. All of you! You're cut. I cut you!
[Gracie Films logo, "shhhhh"]
You're cut too, shusshy![/quote]
I suspect His Royal Hairness isn't a Simpsons fan.
Other points:
[Gracie Films logo, "shhhhh"]
You're cut too, shusshy![/quote]
I suspect His Royal Hairness isn't a Simpsons fan.
Other points:
- The 38% loss in sales is a bit exaggerated because of the rainy weather. I suspect if they weren't there, sales would have been down 60% or so. That said, they did a spectacularly poor job, though not quite the "worst ever" for this show.
- Someone above already touched on my point that percentages weren't additive so Felisha's more than 100% victory line was rather ignorant.
- Mark clearly didn't deserve firing for this task, since someone had to feed the pitching machine. But he's sucked before and I'm fine with his departure. James was screwed, though a lot of the problems came from either his ideas or his failure to make sure that his vision didn't get lost in translation.
- Rebecca's soccer idea might have been great if soccer was considered its own department. Sales there would usually be pretty small, so adding 7 people to work on selling it would make it 100+% revenue easy. If soccer didn't count as its own department, than that wouldn't have been good.
- I think that Josh had less camera time his episode as PM than in any of the earlier episodes.
lostcawz -
IITS? What does that acronym mean?
IITS? What does that acronym mean?
I'm curious to see if Alla's dumping of Rebecca and Marshawn will come back to haunt her, since Trump made his opinion on them pretty clear. I'd have loved a comment from Carolyn about the reshuffling.
After her team won in a blowout he might not be able to criticize her. She can claim the leg injury for why she got rid of Rebecca. Marshawn seems to be a strong player, but all we see her do now is complain, so that decision did not surprise me as much as it should have.
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True, that. It just struck me that Trump did indicate that "everyone" thinks Marshawn is outstanding, so he at least is seeing something, or the Viceroys are, that possibly isn't "dramatic" (read "ridiculous") enough to get her a plotline. It's just interesting (and amusing) that two of the people Alla identified as "contributing least" got shout-outs by the Donald in the boardroom. And I thought I saw Carolyn go, "Hmm," inside when Alla picked those two. But in general, I'd gladly trade some Apprenti interviews or especially reward time for Carolyn/George/Bill input. (And is it wrong of me to kind of love Bill taking notes by hand?)
I was distracted during the Excel brainstorm--can someone tell me, was it Rebecca who said that she was looking forward to working on a team of "this caliber, this intelligence"? Because if so, oh Lord. At least pretend you learned something from the clusterfuck that was Toral, Unforgettable Business Genius. I want to like her, because she can be well-spoken and polished and hey, I give props when the girl on crutches sells the most stuff, but seriously, Rebecca. It's one thing to think those things--I have--but I'm not dumb enough to say them. On camera. When there will be multiple reshufflings to come, most likely. Le sigh. (And I can say that and sound more French than Markus[/i]).
After her team won in a blowout he might not be able to criticize her. She can claim the leg injury for why she got rid of Rebecca. Marshawn seems to be a strong player, but all we see her do now is complain, so that decision did not surprise me as much as it should have.
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True, that. It just struck me that Trump did indicate that "everyone" thinks Marshawn is outstanding, so he at least is seeing something, or the Viceroys are, that possibly isn't "dramatic" (read "ridiculous") enough to get her a plotline. It's just interesting (and amusing) that two of the people Alla identified as "contributing least" got shout-outs by the Donald in the boardroom. And I thought I saw Carolyn go, "Hmm," inside when Alla picked those two. But in general, I'd gladly trade some Apprenti interviews or especially reward time for Carolyn/George/Bill input. (And is it wrong of me to kind of love Bill taking notes by hand?)
I was distracted during the Excel brainstorm--can someone tell me, was it Rebecca who said that she was looking forward to working on a team of "this caliber, this intelligence"? Because if so, oh Lord. At least pretend you learned something from the clusterfuck that was Toral, Unforgettable Business Genius. I want to like her, because she can be well-spoken and polished and hey, I give props when the girl on crutches sells the most stuff, but seriously, Rebecca. It's one thing to think those things--I have--but I'm not dumb enough to say them. On camera. When there will be multiple reshufflings to come, most likely. Le sigh. (And I can say that and sound more French than Markus[/i]).
In spite of a wealth of material, I found the most idiotic idea of the night to be Rebecca's. The task was to increase sales of sports equipment. Golf presents many opportunities for sales. Rebecca suggested they focus on soccer. The equipment for that sport consists of - what? The ball?[/quote]
Heh. I guess they have focused on soccer goals and pads, but that was a pretty bad idea. I remember thinking "What the hell?" when she suggested that. I'm sure she's glad now that it didn't happen. She not only avoided a massive firing, but she actually comes out looking stronger. And now that Jen is gone, Trump has to have someone else to look at now. Rebecca's not going anywhere.
Heh. I guess they have focused on soccer goals and pads, but that was a pretty bad idea. I remember thinking "What the hell?" when she suggested that. I'm sure she's glad now that it didn't happen. She not only avoided a massive firing, but she actually comes out looking stronger. And now that Jen is gone, Trump has to have someone else to look at now. Rebecca's not going anywhere.
I thought Trump was definitely going to do a double firing...Josh and Jennifer.
She honestly put herself in a bad spot by bragging about her sales expertise and then bombing royally. I actually thought she argued her case very well in the boardroom even though it was a lost cause and she knew it.
Josh was a terrible PM. The concept was ok, but once the batting cage went up it was obvious you couldn't see the merchandise because the thing was so friggin' huge. He should have identified this right there and then! Even midway through the team could have and should have adjusted. Both deserved to go.
James (the baseball fan)...I'm not 100% sold on his firing but if he was such an expert on baseball he really should have been more involved with sales since he's knowledgeable about the products.
Mark really shouldn't have been fired...I think had Bill not said anything about him "hiding" in the batting cage and not doing anything he would have been ok.
While Markus engaged in some big time toolery, wasn't he the one who came up with the golf idea?
Alla was very good as a PM, but I still don't like her. We don't want our Apprentice to be a Care Bear but she's such a hag. But maybe she was just reacting to Clay's constant bitchery. Can't that fool just stay quiet for one minute?
Ok, I'm just rambling now...at this point I like Marshawn and Randall as two of the final 4.
She honestly put herself in a bad spot by bragging about her sales expertise and then bombing royally. I actually thought she argued her case very well in the boardroom even though it was a lost cause and she knew it.
Josh was a terrible PM. The concept was ok, but once the batting cage went up it was obvious you couldn't see the merchandise because the thing was so friggin' huge. He should have identified this right there and then! Even midway through the team could have and should have adjusted. Both deserved to go.
James (the baseball fan)...I'm not 100% sold on his firing but if he was such an expert on baseball he really should have been more involved with sales since he's knowledgeable about the products.
Mark really shouldn't have been fired...I think had Bill not said anything about him "hiding" in the batting cage and not doing anything he would have been ok.
While Markus engaged in some big time toolery, wasn't he the one who came up with the golf idea?
Alla was very good as a PM, but I still don't like her. We don't want our Apprentice to be a Care Bear but she's such a hag. But maybe she was just reacting to Clay's constant bitchery. Can't that fool just stay quiet for one minute?
Ok, I'm just rambling now...at this point I like Marshawn and Randall as two of the final 4.
Good episode...capital edge seemed to barely tolerate Markus though - at the beach picnic they all (especially Alla) looked like they wished someone had pushed him overboard during the boat ride. Bloven looked really bored during the fishing.
I would have liked to have seen more of Mark and James (mostly because he’s pretty). But I was really starting to like Mark.
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Shame about the only decent eye candy leaving - a little unfair in my opinion. What the H*#l was Josh doing? he could have pulled one of them off to do some sale. Anearlier poster had a good point - why not have some incentive to use the batting cage - make a $20 purchase have 3 tries, make a $50 purchase have 6 tries at the bat...even a lowly admin such as myself could see that and yet those fabulous sales folks could not realize that crucial error.
Trump was just fed up with all 4 and couldn't be bothered to make a decision. I thought Jen looked quite pleased to be squished up against one of the hotties (NOT JOSH) in the cab...
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Shame about the only decent eye candy leaving - a little unfair in my opinion. What the H*#l was Josh doing? he could have pulled one of them off to do some sale. Anearlier poster had a good point - why not have some incentive to use the batting cage - make a $20 purchase have 3 tries, make a $50 purchase have 6 tries at the bat...even a lowly admin such as myself could see that and yet those fabulous sales folks could not realize that crucial error.
Trump was just fed up with all 4 and couldn't be bothered to make a decision. I thought Jen looked quite pleased to be squished up against one of the hotties (NOT JOSH) in the cab...
I saw a problem with soccer as well, but the task was to increase sales. In that regard I thought that golf would be a problem because there are so many specialty golf stores that have putting greens and whatnot all the time. Golfers wouldn't go to Dick's, they'd go to Golfsmith or whatever. I figured that Dick's golf sales would be harder to push up any higher. Thus I was surprised at 74% increase.
That said, I think a proper sales event instead of a participation event of anything from baseball to football or even soccer could have increased sales by more than that of a golf expo. Or fishing equipment or anything really. Golf as a market just seems saturated.
But then I can't sword open a bottle of champagne and I don't spell techno with a th in it. So what the hell do I know?
That said, I think a proper sales event instead of a participation event of anything from baseball to football or even soccer could have increased sales by more than that of a golf expo. Or fishing equipment or anything really. Golf as a market just seems saturated.
But then I can't sword open a bottle of champagne and I don't spell techno with a th in it. So what the hell do I know?
Rebecca suggested they focus on soccer. The equipment for that sport consists of - what? The ball?[/quote]
They could have sold a lot for soccer - balls, cleats, shin guards, socks, apparel, goals and cones and other practice equipment...
Soccer may have actually been a better choice because you can sell more apparel for it - which I bet is a major reason the golf task won. Clothes are sort of impulse purchases...I know there's been many a time I've walked into a sporting goods store and bought running clothes even though I totally don't need them. Bats and golf clubs are normally preplanned purchases, so there's probably less of a chance you can talk someone into buying it when they don't need it. But you can pretty much always talk people into buying clothes.
They could have sold a lot for soccer - balls, cleats, shin guards, socks, apparel, goals and cones and other practice equipment...
Soccer may have actually been a better choice because you can sell more apparel for it - which I bet is a major reason the golf task won. Clothes are sort of impulse purchases...I know there's been many a time I've walked into a sporting goods store and bought running clothes even though I totally don't need them. Bats and golf clubs are normally preplanned purchases, so there's probably less of a chance you can talk someone into buying it when they don't need it. But you can pretty much always talk people into buying clothes.
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