I knew I was going to love this episode from the very beginning when the phone rings and Alla comes out and immediately tries to shield her face from the camera. Tee-hee.
I honestly believe Kristi had to go this week and I don't think TD was motivated by Jen bringing the pretty (though that didn't hurt). Since he essentially hand-picked this season's candidates, he's expecting great things and so far the women's team has brought ZIP (heh, sorry, couldn't resist). By firing Kristi, I think TD hopes to get rid of the last retardant to Capital Edge's success - Toral and Kristi were both serious flaws in the team because no matter what advantages they brought, it would always be outweighed by their attitudes and the divisiveness they caused. Jen M. did a crappy job on the presentation and probably did not manage the project as well as possible. That said, I believe Kristi created a hindrance to the team's success by being shrewish and difficult to work with
as in past weeks. Jen M will be gone before the Final Four but I suspect TD wants to see how well the women work without the bad apples.
Or I could be wrong & he's already on the prowl for the next wife.
To whoever cleared up the expert float-building mystery, thanks! I was totally confused by how both teams seemed to know exactly how to create a float.
Brian did a good job of managing the project and I think most of Excel respected him as evidenced by the exemption. On a giggly note, how 'bout Markus's glorious flowing locks as he nodded his head emphatically to approve Brian's exemption?
Love Marshawn, Randal, and, to a lesser extent, Rebecca. Any of those three could win and I would be happy, but I'd be happier if it was Marshawn.
Alla & Felicia? Lose the Pretty Pink Suits of Power. It's not working.
As for Excel's reward, I give it a thumbs-up. My best friend is a musician and has a mini recording studio in her apartment, and it can be a lot of fun just to mix something together. The song was....er, well, what I expected from the Frat Boys. Adam was hilarious but please God never let me see any of them "in a club...freakin'" cause I'm just too young or too old or something.
Anyone know anything about Gainesville, GA, where Kristi is from. Many, many years ago, Oprah did a show on racism and some townsfolk from Gainesville (Georgia) were in the audience saying Gainesville was an all white town and wanted it to stay that way. I've never been able to remember if it was Gainesville Georgia or Florida or California, but when I saw Kristi's profile I decided to keep an eye on her. She didn't disappoint since she disliked Marshawn from the beginning. So, I've always hated her.
[/quote]
Aw, crap, Kristi's from Georgia?? I thought she was from Texas or 'Bama - now her screechy voice is going to be all over the place here. Eeeeyuck!! Gainesville does tend to be upper class white folk, especially since it includes Lake Lanier and the multi-million dollars homes there. I'm from Decatur, half-in/half-out of Atlanta, & I've only been to G'ville a handful of times, but I assume that they have at least some percentage of brown population. IIRC, G'ville and the surrounding area are very popular for Hispanic immigrants because of the number of farms that hire seasonal workers. So even if the town
wanted to stay "all white" or whatever, economics alone wouldn't permit it. As far as Kristi & Marshawn, Kristi's just a bitch who realized immediately that Marshawn outclassed her by far.
I think Rebecca should get one of those motorized scooters. That would be efficient and hilarious.[/quote]
<choke>Frickin' awesome!!
Edited because I do know how to spell, just not all the time
mep81579
Oct 21, 2005 @ 7:51 pm
Don't usually post here but I have to say that I have lost so much respect for Wyclef Jean. Is the dude really that desperate for money? Although he did provide a good five minutes of painful tummy aching laughter in our house last night.
Zathura looks like a cool movie... but a parade to market it? Not so cool.
Jaded Cat
Oct 21, 2005 @ 7:56 pm
I mean, she was angry at Jen because the latter had brought her down despite Kristi's working really hard in the task.[/quote]
The only thing Kristi's capable of working hard at is running her bitchy mouth. I was with her on the first task because Melissa was a walking demon. After that, she never shut up. And the bit at the end of the task when Marshawn was PM, pure bitch all the way.
I do like JenM in spite of her performance last night. I thought she handled the situation with Kristi much better than Kristi did. It was obvious to me that Kristi didn't like JenM and didn't plan to do any more than she absolutely had to.
I don't think she has any trouble following directions either. All her pageant life she's been following someone's directions. I think she got it wrong in her brain and couldn't shake it loose. Doing presentations is not the same as walking down a runway or around a stage. She is well spoken and probably does well with more preparation.
I spent 1/3 of a semester teaching some Japanese students the wrong pronunciation of a very ordinary American word. I was corrected by one of the students after her parents told her what I was doing. The word? Trail instead of trial. I was 44 years and born in the USA. I couldn't tell ya how it happened but I was so embarrassed. It happens.
After all these seasons of the Apprentice, I've finally figured out what bothers me. Not everyone is a marketing genius. I agree with many others who've wondered what happened to the 1st season style tasks. I get the product placement part and that this isn't "for a real job" but damn, if you're looking for marketing people, don't interview bankers or investment managers or real esate agents, interview, I dunno, marketing people?
They didn't show much of the work last night because most of the work on both of those floats was done by professionals.
tjames
Oct 21, 2005 @ 7:56 pm
I absolutely hated that! Trump didn't make it mandatory that they get someone from the other team.. he said "IF" you think you need someone from the other team. Had the women had some self-respect they would have said no, we don't. And then proceed to redeem themselves without help from a guy.[/quote]
I thought for a second they might say they didn't need to poach someone; but Trump did also say that he thought it would be a good idea for them to get someone from Excel, hint hint. And Chris can tell you what happens when you ignore The 'Hinting' Of The Hair.
WinkyDink
Oct 21, 2005 @ 8:06 pm
EXACTLY what I was going to post, Akai! I was like, "Wha' hoppen?!" Terrible decision not to show us HOW the teams came up with their ideas, HOW they got the crafty stuff, HOW the tasks were delegated, etc.!
I'm of the impression that the PM just needs to zero in on a team-mate, INSIST that person is an obstructionist, and voila! That person is GONE.
Too bad, though, that JenM didn't tell Kristi that she needed to step up to the plate.
AdrienneP
Oct 21, 2005 @ 8:10 pm
Okay, the CNBC repeat just went off, and Kristi said, "Shut up. I don't even wanna hear it, Jen." Unprofessional, sure, but right on. No fake sweetness.
I think what turned it around for Jen in the boardroom was after Caroline said it wasn't a popularity contest; Jen said that's true, but you have to have the respect of your team, to paraphrase. Trump said, "that's absolutely true," and to me that's when he decided to fire Kristi instead of Jen. She was ineffectual as a manager, but had more potential because she was less divisive than Kristi could ever be. And he thinks she's hot.
Now for the reward.... I think Wyclef is a very talented musician, and he's got a great rep as a collaborator and writer in the industry. That said, what's he doing pimping on TA? Clef, man, say it ain't so...
"YOU KNOW WHO THIS IS!" is on a feedback loop in my brain. Please. Kill. Me.
immutabilis
Oct 21, 2005 @ 8:11 pm
Too bad, though, that JenM didn't tell Kristi that she needed to step up to the plate.[/quote]
No, but she did tell her that she needed to step under the float.
About that part too... why are Kristi and Alla who've just worked their derrieres off the whole day still doing the main part of the work? And it looked like hard work because both got red from the exertion. How about the others, who've just had a nice little comfy trip to the shop, helping out? Something about this episode really bugs me.
Obladi
Oct 21, 2005 @ 8:13 pm
I don't think that's entirely the case. Everyone on the team has blasted Markus for one thing or another BUT 2 weeks ago, Josh gave Markus credit for keeping it together. Last week, he was also not the only one upset by Clay, BUT in the end, he gave Clay credit for being the leader in their win. I do agree that we see a lot of snark - and not particularly constructive - from him, especially compared to everyone else, but even if he has lost his cool or is over the top, he's dead on with it.[/quote]
He was not the only one upset by Clay, but he was the only one who called Clay a bitch over and over again, two weeks in a row. The only one to compare Clay to Hitler. I don't want to argue that again because it's not on topic for this episode, but I don't see anything dead on about comparing a pushy project manager to a mass murderer and a butcher like Hitler. I think it just shows what a shallow person Josh is that he has to go to the gutter every time he needs to be 'funny'.
There is nothing easier than sitting around and complaining for the camera, except maybe ganging up on a scapegoat when you have the project manager to hide behind. One of the deleted scenes had Josh jumping in and taking over a pitch meeting because he didn't think Brian was moving fast enough. Markus said - and Markus was right - it was easy for Josh to behave that way because if they lost all he had to do was put all of the blame on Brian.
Josh is all over this show and yet I have never seen him DO anything except take shots at people.
Speaking of Markus, I'm starting to think he wants to be fired. Can't blame him at this point, he knows he won't win.
Coldclaimer
Oct 21, 2005 @ 8:18 pm
I guess I never noticed Brian before because I couldn't see him. He's kind of cute, though damn near Lilliputian in stature.[/quote]
The next challenge for our eager hopefuls should be to hunt down Brian (while he's clad in a green suit and top hat of course) The team that finds him first must force him to surrender his pot of gold.
thuganomics85
Oct 21, 2005 @ 8:26 pm
And didn't Bill use the "put her on the bench" comment last year as well?
Good lord, Bill. You won. Stop trying to stick it to Kwame.[/quote]
I didn't think about that. He probably was taking a shot at Kwame. I would be more upset, but I heard that Kwame is actually making more money then Bill is right now. So, while Bill is making these annoying comments, Kwame is probably laughing and counting his money. And probaby drinking beer with Troy. Hee!
blocked writer
Oct 21, 2005 @ 9:14 pm
Don't usually post here but I have to say that I have lost so much respect for Wyclef Jean. Is the dude really that desperate for money? Although he did provide a good five minutes of painful tummy aching laughter in our house last night.[/quote]
Now for the reward.... I think Wyclef is a very talented musician, and he's got a great rep as a collaborator and writer in the industry. That said, what's he doing pimping on TA? Clef, man, say it ain't so...[/quote]
I have a different perspective on Wyclef's appearance on the show. I don't think he's desperate, or that it was degrading. I thought he did it as a lark. I also doubt if he got paid much, if anything, for the appearance. I thought the reward scenes were cringe-worthy, but not for Wyclef. I thought he had a good sense of humor about the whole thing, and I doubt if his record sales are going to be affected either way by this. It's not like he acted like the song was something great.
John Lithgow is appearing next week on Martha's show, in some kind of challenge. It's something about celebrities and their dogs, I think. Lithgow is a well-respected actor on stage, screen & TV, and he is one of my favorites. Does it degrade him in any way to appear on this show, or mean that he takes acting any less seriously? I don't think so. Even if he came on and sang a silly song, I wouldn't think any less of him.
The show isn't what it was in Season One, but I don't appearing on it think it's an act of desperation. Trump probably asks celebrity friends and acquaintances to appear, and granted it doesn't hurt them to get a little free publicity. But I doubt any of them see this as a career boost. It's just a bit of fun.
Akai
Oct 21, 2005 @ 9:55 pm
Immutablis (I hope I spelled that right) has a good point that I wondered about watching this episode -- Trump says "if" they want to add someone from the other team and not only do they all immediately say yes, but they all seem to be in agreement about who -- it's not like three of them say "Randall!" and one of them goes "Markus!" (okay, that would only happen in Bizzaro world but you get the point). So clearly they were told in advance -- maybe at the first boardroom meeting off camera? -- that they would be given this choice and at some point they had a group meeting and (amazingly!) came to a concensus. So what did they base that decision on? What are they buzzing about back in the flat? Probably would have been more interesting to see that than listening, endlessly, to that horrible song the men "composed." Ow! It was painful on so many levels.
lessa2010
Oct 21, 2005 @ 10:02 pm
If that's the case, she may have scored some points with Marshawn and Rebecca, but she hammered the second-to-last nail in the coffin of the task. (The last nail being her disastrous presentation.) I can only believe that in that particular scenario, Randal would be wondering "What the hey? We have a float to finish, but you're more worried about what some of your team members might think of you? No wonder this team keep losing."[/quote]
Well, I never said it was a smart idea. (lol) I can see Jen M, doing it though. In fact, during Kristi's cab interview she called Jen 'fake'. Wonder if Jen was trying to play both sides.
Poor Randal, I don't blame him for sitting back and watching this task. I'd be keeping a low profile too.
MadeleineM
Oct 21, 2005 @ 10:10 pm
Jon Favreau was very gracious last night, considering I'm sure he was strong-armed into appearing on "The Apprentice/Sony Pimpfest." I think Favreau is doing films like "Zathura" and "Elf" and doing voices for animated features because he has kids now...and "Swingers," "Made," and Diane-Keaton-in-the-nude are not exactly DVDs you throw into the player for the pre-K set. And he has put on lbs. over the last decade but, in person (I saw him in Chicago several times this past summer), he's very handsome.
That said, may Favreau get back to adult-oriented fare that fully showcases his keen wit mixed with his eye for social commentary. Pronto.
watchinginutica
Oct 21, 2005 @ 10:10 pm
New to the TWoP but had some random thoughts i had to share...
Bill the Apprentice has as much charisma as a piece of wallpaper and it's obvious the Donald doesn't give a crap what he thinks.
Jon Favreau's one quarter pounder away from being as fat as he was in Rudy. And i don't think he's a good director. Zathura looks like the biggest piece of crap i've ever seen. Can you say Jumangi In Space?
Wyclef.... wy wy wy are you helping dorky white boys ruin hip hop?
Kristi should have been fired, but without her it's gonna be boring as hell.
AlmondEyes
Oct 21, 2005 @ 10:18 pm
Bill said something demeaningful about Kwame? I missed that one.
The next challenge for our eager hopefuls should be to hunt down Brian (while he's clad in a green suit and top hat of course) The team that finds him first must force him to surrender his pot of gold.[/quote]
**rimshot** Welcome,
Coldclaimer. You owe me a new keyboard!
I think what turned it around for Jen in the boardroom was after Caroline said it wasn't a popularity contest; Jen said that's true, but you have to have the respect of your team, to paraphrase. Trump said, "that's absolutely true," and to me that's when he decided to fire Kristi instead of Jen. She was ineffectual as a manager, but had more potential because she was less divisive than Kristi could ever be. And he thinks she's hot.[/quote]
Absolutely. It's all about talking a good game in the BR, and Jen sucked at that until blah blah blah respectofyourteamcakes. Trump was clearly looking for any excuse to keep her around another week, as the bell tolled for Kristi after her first turn as PM.
ITA that she's less divisive than Kristi, but Jen will never win this thing. Carolyn despises her. And I know Carolyn hated Jen M from two seasons ago, but that Jen had arguably more to offer (big, shiny degrees from big, shiny universities, which is just the thing to distract Trump. Plus, she was super sharp in the BR) than the current beauty queen incarnation. Kristi's just warming the bench for Jen at Loser Lodge, at this point.
lauriecake
Oct 22, 2005 @ 1:07 am
I heard somewhere that DT selected the candidates himself. I don't know if that's really true or not[/quote]
Yes, Trump picked seventeen out of the eighteen candidates this season, and Jen M. was the one he fought to have on because she was so beautiful. When Capital Edge lost, I knew Kristi would get fired because she would be the only one Jen would drag into the boardroom, and Trump would not be able to give up Jen M. so easily. However, I don't think she's going to last much soon after that because I have a feeling Carolyn's going to be watching her like a hawk.
Dispatcherbert
Oct 22, 2005 @ 4:44 am
What is it with Trump's obsession with Beauty Queens?
He buys Miss World and Miss Universe, which I can't imagine are financially viable as businesses.[/quote]
He has to have
somewhere to look for his next wife!
What is it with people interrupting each other all the time? When Trump specifically asked Alla what she thought, you could see Felicia yammering away about something. I thought Jen pulling Kristi aside to admonish her was great, but Kristi wouldn't stop interrupting long enough to hear what she was saying. Have the people on this show never heard of constructive criticism?[/quote]
Randal said as much when he was talking to Kristi. He said there was a serious listening with this team. And it appears that Trump agrees and that we may be in for a shakeup next week (aside from Carolyn’s being in charge).
What did you think of Kristi's reaction when she got fired?[/quote]
It was sour grapes beyond measure and was in very poor taste what with cameras there to capture it. OTOH, had it been just Jen and Kristi, alone, in the outer office, Kristi was dead on. I’m outspoken and I would’ve given it to Jen with both barrels. I agree with
stopeslite from
way upthread that Jen’s lame-ass “I’m sorry” was completely inappropriate.
Oh, and [Jen’s] wearing capris/gauchos to the boardroom? THE HELL??? I'd have fired her on sight just for that.[/quote]
Word squared. And she must’ve called over to
TA: Martha to borrow Leslie’s flight attendant blazer.
Jen did get [Kristi] back by shutting the door in her face.[/quote]
That was pretty G. D. funny!
I'm with everyone who supported a double firing. Plus, it would’ve been hilarious for the ACWDWers (how come that acronym never gets used anymore?) to have cobwebs growing on them waiting for someone to return to the suite.
Annaleise79
Oct 22, 2005 @ 6:07 am
Hi everyone. I am from Gainesville, Georgia (Kristi's hometown) and just wanted to reply to those who wanted to know a little more about our town. Gainesville is about an hour north of Atlanta and it is a wealthy little "old money" town with a huge hispanic population. As for people here being racist, there are some folks living in the hills here that are pretty backwards, as there are everywhere, but as a whole Gainesville is not a racist town. Contrary to popular belief, every small town in the south is not a haven for KKK members and skin heads.
As for Kristi, I went to high school and college with her, so I don't want to comment on her personally. Let's just say she was depicted accurately on the show.
sbwm
Oct 22, 2005 @ 7:51 am
That song, that song!
I know we are taught to laugh with people not at them - but this is entertainment. My whole famliy was laughing at this hip hop attempt musical moment. On the floor laughing while still cringing and trying to shield our eyes and ears.
But then the laughter fads.
Three days later my 9 year old and I are still humming that painful song. Payback is hell.
Back on topic: I do think the editing was very strange for this episode. I would like to have understood more about the decisions made but my guess is the float professionals pretty much had everything ready to go. (I have never made a float but have been on one in New Orleans, I even did an "as a former beauty queen little wave.") The editing left us without much knowledge of the actions taken by each team. All I seem to recall is Marcus sweeping/ not sweeping.
Marcus does look very tired. Several up thread mentioned he the oldest on the team. I don't know if it is age or lack of eating food (I think he just gets to order it) but he didn't see bitter or angry, just extremely tired IMHO. Oh but the image of Marcus during the hip hop session just now adds visual to the music in my head.
Must go rest, read a book, do something to make this song go away. (But maybe that is the appeal. Is something successful just because we remember it?)
TotalAddict
Oct 22, 2005 @ 9:19 am
I still want to download it!! Ten points to whomever finds it for me!
tnabna
Oct 22, 2005 @ 9:34 am
And from that Oprah show, the townspeople from Gainesville in the audience were very racist and made it clear black folk weren't welcome in Gainesville. It was a very disturbing display and has stayed with me for over ten years.[/quote]
Just to clarify (I happen to live in the Atlanta area), that Oprah show was taped in Forsyth County, GA. Gainesville, GA is in Hall County. Forsyth County has changed quite a bit in the nearly twenty years since that show was taped. I can't speak for North Forsyth County, but South Forsyth has grown a lot. There are many Black residents in the county now. There are some very nice communties in South Forsyth, and the property taxes are lower in comparison to the other Metro Atlanta counties.
I was glad to see Kristi go, but I would have been just as happy to see Trump fire both of them.
Damn Bill. I don't remember you looking that good during Season One. I guess I was too busy looking at Troy.
Hamhock96
Oct 22, 2005 @ 9:41 am
Terrible decision not to show us HOW the teams came up with their ideas, HOW they got the crafty stuff, HOW the tasks were delegated, etc.!
[/quote]
There is some of this on the extended video on Yahoo.
ruin hip hop? [/quote]
Talk about an oxymoron. YMMV
pacestick
Oct 22, 2005 @ 10:31 am
Of the various decisions by Jenthura which perplexed me, this was the most perplexing. If she did see Randall, Rebecca and Marshawn as the smartest workers, which is debatable, then why, why, when there's only 45 minutes to finish the float, why would she take the smartest workers on an expendable activity, a shopping expedition to get carpet? And probably those way-out-of-scale potted plants, which were the most bizarre bit of their float. How much expert advice did she need to buy carpet and plants and whatever else? Those are not exactly high-powered decisions, for which a PM needs her best staff.
Conversely, if the float wasn't finished, and Jenthura thought that Alla, Felisha and Kristi were the weakest workers, why would she leave the weakest workers to scramble to get the float finished? And they were scrambling, though I doubt they'll get much credit for that. Why not at least leave Randal there to offer some additional energy and musclepower?[/quote]
You take 4 people to go buy carpet and don't spend a fraction of that time thinking about placing the NAME on the float in strategic places? I don't get it at all. The only people who get a plus are Alla, Kristi and Felicia who were actually doing something. Kristi gets hers taken away because she's negative. Everybody else, Jen, Randall, Rebecca and Marshawn get a big fat minus.[/quote]
I humbly disagree. I only know the three girls had two tasks to finish when then others went shopping. These were staining the deck and putting on the sign. Jen left half her workforce to do that. I still do not see how three people could not have completed that. Really how many people did she need. I though the task was almost completed, so she felt ok leaving half her team to do the work. I think the other girls were just pissed because they were left to do the work. I also think that editing is to blame (as posted many times).
IF there was a problem with a timeline being short we would have seen it more. We would have seen a build up to it (i hate to do this, post about another show, but it happened last week on AM. When the furniture did not show up on time, there was a big lead up to it and everything.) Noone mentioned it
AT ALL in the BR. Kristi just said Jen had a time management problem and that was it. I think that if this was a real issue Kristi, Alla, and Felishia would have called Jen on it in the BR. Especially after they realized that Jen was gunning for Kristi.
can we dumb it down for the army guys in the room?
what does ACWDW mean?
'm with everyone who supported a double firing. Plus, it would’ve been hilarious for the ACWDWers (how come that acronym never gets used anymore?) to have cobwebs growing on them waiting for someone to return to the suite.[/quote]
johnnywang57
Oct 22, 2005 @ 10:39 am
what does ACWDW mean?[/quote]
I do believe it stands for "Aspiring Corporate Weasel Death Watch."
Marie Laveau
Oct 22, 2005 @ 10:49 am
Personally, I think Markus' contribution to the "song" was the best thing about it. Everything else just seemed a bit too Woody-Allen-does-B.E.T for me.
BibiBella
Oct 22, 2005 @ 10:55 am
Take it to the Kristi thread, please.
peterredtail
Oct 22, 2005 @ 11:21 am
Carolyn's sullen stare after Kristi's firing said it all[/quote]
Be careful Jenn M - Carolyn is out for your blood...Trump may like beauty queen looks but not Carolyn. Kristi shot herself in the foot - being so whiny and irritating.
Wyclef Jean - what sort of punishment is this for you? He looked like he wanted to burst out laughing the whole time...what a bizarre sight.
Poor Randal - he performed so well for Excel and then gets punished by being sent to harpy haven.
Akai
Oct 22, 2005 @ 11:28 am
I dunno peterredtail if it's so much "harpy heaven" as "harpy hell," but one thing's for sure -- the harpies! LOL!
immutabilis
Oct 22, 2005 @ 11:46 am
Talk about an oxymoron.[/quote]
Heh, hamhock, I'm with you on this one.
AdrienneP
Oct 22, 2005 @ 12:30 pm
IF there was a problem with a timeline being short we would have seen it more. We would have seen a build up to it (i hate to do this, post about another show, but it happened last week on AM. When the furniture did not show up on time, there was a big lead up to it and everything.) Noone mentioned it AT ALL in the BR. Kristi just said Jen had a time management problem and that was it. I think that if this was a real issue Kristi, Alla, and Felishia would have called Jen on it in the BR. Especially after they realized that Jen was gunning for Kristi.[/quote]
If Trump had fired Jen I think we might have seen just that. But once Trump fired Kristi, everything changed. The editors probably had to cut some of the Jen issues to highlight the problems the team was having with Kristi. So they simply brushed over the timeline problems, which I think were pretty big, too. Even Bill mentioned to Trump that Jen wasn't there in the final moments of completing the task.
I guess it's so surprising to see nowadays (except among poor women) with abortion so widely available and attitudes toward abortion so changed (except perhaps for very devout Christians).[/quote]
I'm sure you don't mean to suggest that only poor women or extremely religious women would not have abortions. Perhaps Kristi just took some personal responsibility for her actions, which notwithstanding her aggressiveness and attitude, could be quite commendable.
I see the point about Wyclef (blockedwriter?), so no, I suppose it doesn't diminish him exactly to do something like this. Whether he was having fun or not is up for debate. :) But by the same token, celebs don't do something like this for free. They get paid to be at a good portion of the parties, events, etc., we see them at on the news. So he's getting something out of the deal.
heebiejeebie
Oct 22, 2005 @ 12:40 pm
Poor Randal - he performed so well for Excel and then gets punished by being sent to harpy haven.[/quote]
Poor Randall nothing. Not only did the women take Randall, pegging him as the the guy they see as most viable. They leaped at the chance. Which underscored their own patheticness. Randall really does not have to do much more and he is likely set to at least make it to the interview process. At which he should do quite well. He had a decent win as PM that wasn't exactly groundbreaking, innovative or even all that great when viewed on its own. It was competent. Though I think that will be the best this season will be able to put forth. Nothing stellar.
Now he has Rebecca who makes bad decisions, Felisha and Jen, both proven dimwits and Alla, who is probably the smartest of the blondes but is almost as grating as Kristi, even more supercilious and thinks her qualifications for certain aspects are much greater than they really are (despite the win, the car video sucked incredibly thanks to her Czech porn sensibility). Marshawn is decent as well, but seems to be more interested in playing Sweden to the Coven's Iron Curtain and everyone else as the free world in some kind of bizarre early 1980's model U.N. gone bad.
Randall should be thanking the women for giving him the validation they did and allowing him at least a week of really not having to prove himself. And unlike Pam, Randall was not forced to lead the women, so he could not have cared less if the women lost. It didn't reflect on him at all.
Plus he has the whole dead grandma thing going. Randall could go all Tana on us starting next episode and he still could pull off the win.
immutabilis
Oct 22, 2005 @ 1:47 pm
Poor Randall nothing. Not only did the women take Randall, pegging him as the the guy they see as most viable. They leaped at the chance. Which underscored their own patheticness. [/quote]
I couldn't possibly agree with you more. That was the most sorry of all sorry sights.. yes, please pretty please Mr Trump can we have Randall cause he's so awesome... giggle.. giggle.. I was more than half expecting them to pull out pom-poms right there and break into a cheerleading dance & song.
It's Amy from Season 1 all over gushing over Bill. I mean, for this show thing to work, each contestant has to stand on her/his own two feet and believe she/he is THE ONE, the CHOSEN ONE destined to break the spell of the Apprentice Matrix. Because if you don't, don't bother showing up and wasting our time.
To be fair, I remember Kristi being most enthused about Randall coming over to their team. I didn't see Rebecca's or Alla's or Marshawn's expression. I hope each of these women, who seem to hold more promise than the other women, want to win it for themselves.
johnnywang57
Oct 22, 2005 @ 2:54 pm
yes, please pretty please Mr Trump can we have Randall cause he's so awesome... giggle.. giggle..[/quote]
UGH ITA so much, that made me sort of hate the entire girl's team. He should have just fired the whole team right there, because obviously they know that Randal's better than all of them, and if they aren't the best, they shouldn't be there.
I don't think any of the women have Apprentice-ship in their forseeable futures.
Miss Alli
Oct 22, 2005 @ 2:59 pm
Y'all, this thread is NOT going to devolve into snide comments about how women who have abortions don't "take responsibility" blah blah blah. You can drop that immediately.
blocked writer
Oct 22, 2005 @ 3:09 pm
As far as Randal is concerned, I believe that it was a tricky situation for the women. I don't know if they were warned that they'd have to choose ahead of time, or they realized with the number of losses that they'd either have a team member foisted on them, but in either case they chose Randal. Clearly, Randal has been a standout in the suite, either because of his demeanor, or his impressive resume, or maybe a combination of those and other things.
The most important thing at this point in the game is to keep winning. If they think someone is outstanding and can help them to win, should they ignore that and pick someone who may be less accomplished or talented, just because they don't want to put a spotlight on Randal's excellence? Trump already knows Randal's background, and what he's accomplished in this game so far.
I don't know how well they get to know one another in the suite, but it's possible that they don't interact that much, and they probably don't know that much about the work habits of the guys.
So the choice is to either turn down Trump's offer to take an extra team member, and wait for a corporate reshuffle and take their chances on who they get. I think they made the best decision under the circumstances. With the mercurial Trump, they're as likely to be blamed no matter what they do. If they had picked someone other than Randal, Trump probably would have said, "You women passed up a chance to get a Rhodes Scholar? Not smart."
The Randal situation is similar to real-life interviews. Prospective employers look at the CVs, and the impression they got from talking to the person, and pick the person they think is likely to do the best job. Under the circumstances, I'd probably also have picked Randal.
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