Now the group wanted to take the concept to a whole new level by hiding her in a costume. Sounds like an insult few people would stand for (or should, really[/quote]
The project explicitly required the creation of a costume and somebody's having to wear it. It wasn't an inherently marginalizing or insulting task, within the construct of the overall project (in other words, that's what being on the show means). It therefore can't be that huge an insult to ask a particular person rather than another person to do it--or if it is that huge an insult, it's Kristi, not Toral, who has the complaint rights on this project, since she's the one who actually ended up in the costume while Toral didn't. And Toral's justification for ducking the task was basically that she, and she alone, was too good for it, and she made things even worse by trying to cover up that hideous and invalid justification by implying that the reasons were an unassailable issue of honor. She got called on it and her ass was canned.
Assigning her to wear the costume was bitchery, but not because of the nature of the task--simply because the request was specifically geared to bring out Toral's weaknesses--her unearned sense of superiority, her pattern of evasion--so that she could be further berated for them. That doesn't mean they're not significant, problematic weaknesses, just that the method of pointing them up is itself a considerable workplace deficit.
Jacob
Oct 21, 2005 @ 2:38 pm
I completely agree with every word of the above, and I think we saw the opposite/downside of that last night -- kind of like, "What would Josh do without Markus?" Thanks for putting it so succintly.
midnightoil
Oct 21, 2005 @ 6:04 pm
But I see that it does mention that she raised $5 BILLION dollars for her investors, which isn't too freaking shabby. ... She kind of IS a respected businesswoman, as she's said all along.[/quote]
Anyone can put up their own web site and claim how brilliant and respected they are. I don't think it holds much water. And if she's raised $5 billion for her investors, why is she throwing it all away, or at least quitting it for a while, to go on a television reality show? I think you have to read between the lines on these sort of things. It says "executed more than 20 major financings." What does executed mean? What exactly was her role? Did she personally raise the money or was she operating the copy machine running off all the paperwork for the dealmakers to sign, or maybe somewhere in between?
TheGeek
Oct 26, 2005 @ 3:54 pm
By the way, what does 'Heathers' mean with respect to the 'blondes'?
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Find the movie by that name and watch it. It's not only a terrific movie, it explains everything.
phaedrus20
Nov 1, 2005 @ 4:56 pm
Exactly Fposte. Well put and answers the Toral defenders succinctly. I agree that asking her to wear the outfit was vindictive and almost with the expectaion she'd refuse, but how much better would she have looked if she simply called them on it instead of the lame excuses.
For example, wouldn't it have looked better in the boardroom if she'd said something to the effect of " I feel that you are marginalizing Rebecca and I and intentionally asked me to wear the costume in furtherance of that. I am willing to work hard and help this team win, and I think I can best do that by ( here she volunteers to do something useful). Your group has obviously chosen to divide this team and I don't think that is condusive to our winning this task. Let's work tohether, but I will not wear that costume to assist you in freezing me out.
Of course, simply agreeing to wear it would have knocked the wind out of their sails and kept her on the show a little longer, but what can one expect from an egomaniac elitist snob.
jodypow
Nov 3, 2005 @ 8:44 am
For example, wouldn't it have looked better in the boardroom if she'd said something to the effect of " I feel that you are marginalizing Rebecca and I and intentionally asked me to wear the costume in furtherance of that. I am willing to work hard and help this team win, and I think I can best do that by ( here she volunteers to do something useful). Your group has obviously chosen to divide this team and I don't think that is condusive to our winning this task. Let's work tohether, but I will not wear that costume to assist you in freezing me out.
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As if anyone could ever say this amount of words without being interrupted 17 times before they finish.
These people have a serious problem with interrupting each other. Like Randal said, it's obvious they don't listen to each other. They're so eager to get their ideas across, they can't wait for the other person to finish what they're saying.
phaedrus20
Nov 3, 2005 @ 12:22 pm
Good point. I simply meant the opportunity was there for her to turn it around on them instead of her lame excuses that really amounted to "This is way beneath me."
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