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Bassari99

Oct 13, 2005 @ 9:35 pm

...and what exactly was Zip anyway?[/quote]
Nothing? Nada? Zilch? Why did they choose that name? I thought the guy's Dairy Queen genie was pretty creepy, as well. The DQ logo on her belt clip (do genies wear belts?) was about the only thing that saved their mascot.

DeepInTheHeart

Oct 13, 2005 @ 9:35 pm

Back to Toral, what, exactly, is her religion?[/quote]Whatever cult it is that prays to the god of arrogant dishonesty.

CaptainSnarky

Oct 13, 2005 @ 9:36 pm

Whatever cult is is that prays to the god of arrogant dishonesty.[/quote]

Ohhh!! She's a Scientologist!

Lucy

Oct 13, 2005 @ 9:36 pm

Was Toral responsible for the loss? No more than anyone else. Did the Clique railroad her Stacie J-style out of the boardroom? Yep. Was it fair? Probably not.

And yet, I just can't feel sorry to see Toral go. What a snotty, snobby, elitist bitch. She's too good for the other girls, she's too good for Digital television, she's too good for a mascot...So, wearing a costume is beneath her dignity, but she's willing to blatantly kiss ass on national TV? I don't know what the hell religion she thinks she's following, but even Tom Cruise would find it a little nutty.

Not that the Cliquers are any better. They totally set her up to fail with the whole demanding that she be the mascot stuff. Not for asking her the first time, but by continuing to harangue her. And they were the ones who picked the crappy, logo-free mascot.

As it is, the only people on the girls' team that I'm still rooting for are Rebecca, Marshawn, and Jen. Marshawn and Jen are both willing to speak up and disagree with the Clique when they know the Clique is wrong. And, god, poor Rebecca! You could see it was just killing her to admit that the others were right about Toral, but she did what she knew was right. I think she felt hurt and betrayed by Toral--she put her own ass on the line last week to save Toral, and how does Toral repay her? By bitching and moaning and shirking and basically proving everyone else right and Rebecca wrong.

So, in the end: Rebecca is smart, articulate, willing to defend to the death what she believes in, yet able to suck it up and admit when she's been wrong. I like her. A lot.

As for the men's team: Shut up, Clay.

Hey, I thought the Genie was cool looking. I love her soft-serve hair. She would probably look far, far better on an actual woman, though. And with white face paint instead of a mask. I totally agree that Zippy looked like a low-rent version of Izzy.

PinkyTuscadero

Oct 13, 2005 @ 9:38 pm

This crop of female candidates are as much as if not more of a mess than TA2's.

I have yet to see anything out of any of them that warrnan any them being chosen for this show.

Rebecca is useless. She offers nothing, she was a horrible PM and she puts her personal feelings over professional ones.

Kristi is another waste of space. From the XXX flyers to the constant coffee clatching with the others, she serves no purpose.

JenM needs to stop relying on the beauty queen thing. Honey, time has not been a friend. It was years ago. Show us why you were chosen for this other than you give good snotterview poses and you have Barbie hair. It's Trump judgin you, not Tyra and Miss Jay. Which, BTW, I'd love to see. Tyra in Trump's chair. Miss Jay in George's and that other blonde guy who manages all the photo shoots in Carolyn's.

Felisha - Way to go with not using the Dairy Queen branding on their mascot. Dipshit.

Alla - Another who has shown nothing other than she can boss people around well.

Marchawn - that leaves you. Jury is still out.

They lost because they did no market research, lacked the branding/logo presence and because their character looked like a giant fucking toaster with eyes.

These women may be good in their niche field, but take them out of their comfort jone and they're like pinballs bumping into each other. They spent way too much time trying to cajole Toral into getting into the suit. Ladies...that's not goping to be the determining factor if you win or lose. Move on and stop bitching. The Four Non Blondes (Kristi, Alla, JenM and Felisha, cause you KNOW they ain't natural blondes) have got to move outside their little clique and start coming up with ideas.

Josh's comments have officially worn on me. The constant "bitch" references towards Clay, the Hitler refernce...he's just a gasbag. I'm hoping his mouth gets him into trouble.

lostcawz

Oct 13, 2005 @ 9:38 pm

I'm tired of this railroading bullshit from the largest clique within a team.[/quote]

If you're in the 20% of a group that sits around talking about how much better you are than the other 80%, perhaps you are in the bitchy clique and deserving of my hate.

Look Both Ways

Oct 13, 2005 @ 9:39 pm

Ohhh!! She's a Scientologist! [/quote]

Hah! That's funny!

TiffanyNichelle

Oct 13, 2005 @ 9:39 pm

Oh, and Toral 'consider the sources'? I think that set the faux pas record for this show.[/quote]

And the eyeroll and face she made. It's up there with Erin's wink. LOL.

JuliaCarpenter

Oct 13, 2005 @ 9:39 pm

Did anyone laugh during the ladies' presentation when Jennifer M said to the executives that her team's mascot mascot was " fun, energetic and full of energy !"??????

I almost peed my pants!!!! LMAO!!!

And Clay...what a beeeyotch!!!!
(he must be thanking his lucky stars the dudes won, because otherwise his arse would've beeen gone. )
And did anyone catch the silly irony of a gay guy managing a team that came up with the idea of a big boobed bimbo to sell the product?
Not to mention that of all tasks, Clay had to manage the one related to Dairy Queen...

truecrystal

Oct 13, 2005 @ 9:40 pm

Hey, I thought the Genie was cool looking. I love her soft-serve hair. [/quote]

Hee. I did too. As nightmare inducing as she was, at least she was...ice-creamy looking. Zip or Zippy or whatever the hell looked like a walking hard drive carrying a spoon. Where the hell they came up with that I have no idea.

Mobius

Oct 13, 2005 @ 9:43 pm

I suspect female executives from Dairy Queen wouldn't have received the buxom genie so well. When the men first started brainstorming it I just rolled my female-mktg-exec eyes.[/quote]

Yeah. Also rolled my eyes thinking "they picked the one with the bigger breasts"

On another note:
Toral---STFU
Kristi---ditto. Cubed.
Felisha---ditto. After you thank whoever YOUR deity is for saving your ass tonight.
Jen something---getting more and more impressive. PLease don't bring up the beuty queen status though.
Marshawn---under "Stepping Up to the Plate", please see Marshawn quietly saying "I'll take this question". Bravo.
Rebecca---anyone else think that TD and TPTB are setting up her edit as a final four?
Alla---see "Kristi" above

Eliz87

Oct 13, 2005 @ 9:44 pm

I'll preface all of this with a IMHO...

I absolutely do not blame Toral for not stepping up to be PM for this task and further do not blame her for not wanting to wear that stupid costume. Because honestly? This was The Dumbest Task Ever.

If they were going to do something for Dairy Queen, why didn't they have them create a new ice cream dessert and see which team's sold the most? Or some other type of sales promotion? But to create and wear a mascot uniform? Weird and completely juvenile.

Both mascots sucked ass. The winning mascot's face looked like that of a blow-up doll. I think the fruit & cheese plate won the DQ execs over. Or maybe they like blow-up dolls. Oh, wait a minute...they didn't seem to be quite taken with Jen M. so that can't be the case.

Trump is an ass for pointing out that he wore a chicken costume on SNL. He's already made it. He's got nothing to prove to anyone. He can be as wacky as he pleases because he's already achieved. These people have still got something to prove and running around in a damned silly-ass costume is not exactly the way to show off one's intelligence.

Yeah, Toral can be a real snot, but she so didn't deserve what she got tonight. The blondes need to go back to their sororities and Trump needs to stop picking on the unpopular kids.

luvrhino

Oct 13, 2005 @ 9:43 pm

Back to Toral, what, exactly, is her religion?[/quote]
She's autotheocratic.

Much like in Xianity, she materialized on earth, only to die for our sins of un-Torally business practices. Please note that the Apocalypse has already begun what with the hurricanes and earthquakes. The forecast calls for frogs, locusts, and Karl Rove to be elected President in 2008.

Repent!

lostcawz

Oct 13, 2005 @ 9:46 pm

Considering the time contraints I thought both mascots looked pretty good. I think the DQ crew even mentioned that they took time into consideration.

And I didn't get anything overly sexist from the men's mascot. They made it more adult looking with some curves to make it more appealing to teenage boys (as opposed to the women's total kiddie themed thingy). But it wasn't exactly based on Marilyn Monroe.

pacestick

Oct 13, 2005 @ 9:47 pm

I also loved the soft serve hair and thought of a lot of cool tie ins with it: Cup tops ( that the spoon could go through) and toys. Yes it was sexist, a girl with big boobs, but that sells. Just ask Jen M from last week.

You would never see guys gang up on someone like the Uniblondes did with Toral because she wouldn't wear the suit. Why? you ask, because someone would have been hit. I would have slapped anyone for badgering me like that.

I knew the girls lost when they showed the close up of the belt buckle.

I felt good going into the firing because i thought it was either Felisha or Toral, I would have been happy either way. Toral, as mentioned upthread a lot, could have remained if she was more composed in the BR.

Stardancer2001

Oct 13, 2005 @ 9:47 pm

I'm a genie with a boner, baby! Come, come, come on and let me out.[/quote]

(Star, choking on her fruit juice.......)

TiffanyNichelle

Oct 13, 2005 @ 9:48 pm

I'm a genie with a boner, baby! Come, come, come on and let me out.[/quote]

LOL. That genie was scary. I wouldn't be surprised if their original tagline was "Eat the Blizzard...or DIE!"

If you can get him to start asking someone else questions about their performance, he'll take the bait.[/quote]

It's amazing how easy it is sometimes to direct Trump's attention away from you and to someone else. Unfortunately Wharton didn't prepare Toral on how to do that. And her admin assistant was off that day.

WinkyDink

Oct 13, 2005 @ 9:49 pm

If Toral said, "Mr. Trump,..." one more time, Bang! Zoom! To the moon!
Yap, yap, yap. Didn't know the value of judicious silence. However, I think she should have said to the Uniblondes, "If wearing this costume is so great, let's see one of YOU do it, bee-yotches!"

I'm liking Mark more and more. He's funny and fearless. As for the genie: the TV one, the comic Wonder Woman, even Veronica and Betty, were all nicely-built and also for a variety of demographics.

"Toral! Toral! Toral!"
"Uniblondes."
THESE? are why I love TWoP.

I do wish Geoffrey would watch this show, though! Hee!

alynn

Oct 13, 2005 @ 9:51 pm

I don't think it happened this way. Even Rebecca was disappointed in Toral's not taking command. Toral's attitude was, "Well, I'll do this if no one else wants it," and, lo and behold, Felisha stuck up her hand.[/quote]

Yes, and no. Toral was wishy-washy when she volunteered, but she still volunteered. I think that the Heathers knew that if they let her be project manager, A) they wouldn't be able to marginalize her for boardroom ammunition B) if she managed to pull off a win, they wouldn't be able to get rid of her (and to a lesser extent Rebecca) and C) that keeping Toral out of the PM position would be the final nail in her coffin. So when Toral volunteered, and gave them the opening to say no, they took it. But she actually did insist, though fairly weakly, and the team voted for Felisha. That might have bought Toral another week when they asked her about it in the boardroom, had she been direct about it and turned the criticism back on Felisha and the branding.

only1kcm

Oct 13, 2005 @ 9:52 pm

Now I'm rooting for one of the women to win...so that, as she's being congratulated, she turns to Toral and says, "Toral, I think you would make an excellent Administrative Assistant! Would you like to work for me?"

Yeah. I'd pay good money to see that.

NotTheBox

Oct 13, 2005 @ 9:52 pm

I absolutely do not blame Toral for not stepping up to be PM for this task and further do not blame her for not wanting to wear that stupid costume. Because honestly? This was The Dumbest Task Ever.[/quote]

But she's on a JOB INTERVIEW. Yeah, it's a stupid task. But if you're in it to win, that's what you have to do. Mascots creep me out, always, but damn. If your job is to create one, then you damn well do it. It's not like this is a brand new show. She's seen them sell lemonade for craps sake. If there's a job to be done, you can't afford to be above it. It's a good test of these "I'm so important self made millionaires" and she failed.

Ashforth

Oct 13, 2005 @ 9:53 pm

The criteria under which Toral was fired was bigger than this task alone. She was subtly contemptuous of the task last week and openly so this week. Her contempt for the task and the rest of her team ("I'm glad they lost") expanded into contempt for the competition itself and contempt for Trump. You don't keep someone around who has that attitude toward you.

It was more than just failing to step up to the plate (sorry, y'all). Toral did everything but quit. I don't know why, with her high standards and religious scruples, she weaseled around, squirming and lying in the boardroom in her effort to avoid being fired, instead of telling Trump, "I've made a terrible mistake. This show, these secretaries, and you are so beneath me. I cannot continue this charade," before sweeping out of the room.

Poor Rebecca. She may have integrity, but a good judge of character she apparently ain't. She was humiliated.

And, disclaimer first: not as a potential winner, not as a great leader or thinker or even an especialy hard worker, but... I like Kristi. She makes me laugh. *Runs from the room.*

rhysaroni

Oct 13, 2005 @ 9:54 pm

Stopstopstop, Apprentices, please stop saying 'at the end of the day...' They use this constantly on this show and I HATE it. It's right up there with 'stepped up.'

lostcawz

Oct 13, 2005 @ 9:54 pm

But if you're in it to win, that's what you have to do.[/quote]

Which makes me wonder why Toral was in this at all. She seemed to think everything about TA was below her standards.

Odyssea

Oct 13, 2005 @ 9:54 pm

When I was watching the boardroom I kept thinking that although the team wouldn't have gained anything by having Toral wear the suit, because she doesn't exactly have the bubbly personality mascots need, the team did lose something by having Kristi wear it. I think Kristi is annoying as all hell, but she's a good presenter and she would have been a lot more useful in the meeting than Toral, who just stood there sulking and feeling superior to everyone. If someone had made that point in the boardroom I think Toral's firing would have felt a lot more justified.

Arkay

Oct 13, 2005 @ 9:54 pm

A friend of mine from India tells me that the caste system (Brahmin, Untouchable, etc.) is still in force there. Maybe Toral was raised, even in America, with this notion that her "stature" is so grand that it must not be risked on any account. Of course, I wouldn't agree that wearing a costume defeats her stature, but I guess she does. However, she was delusional to go on a reality show that expressly requires teamwork if she believes she is above all others.
I also don't think she is why the women lost the account. Their mascot was awful...it could represent anything and nothing, but it had no tie-in to DQ. The men's mascot was gruesome looking, but it did tie in to ice-cream, at least.
Rebecca seems very self-possessed. I just love Randall, though. He is smooth and calm and intelligent, as well as self-possessed, and I hope he takes it all.

Hoola

Oct 13, 2005 @ 9:55 pm

We know Trump hate liars and she bent the truth more than once.[/quote]

I really agree. I guess she's used to just BSing and out and out lying to get where she wants to be. She lied more than Omarosa and she was only on screen for like two episodes. She lied about what other people said, what she had said, her reasons for acting certain ways, her opinions on dressing up in character. I don't see how she functions in any work environment at all.

I can live with Toral being fired even though she wasn't responsible. She hasn't been responsible for anything good yet. Once someone demonstrates that they consider themselves above actually working, why not fire them? Felicia will get to screw up later but in the meantime at least she tries to do something. [/quote]

Marshawn correctly pointed out that Toral wasn't sharing in victory or losses because she wasn't contributing. If Toral knows how to develop a brand, why didn't she ever bring it up? I think she has book learnin' but doesn't know how to apply it to these real-world scenarios. She's apparently very incompetent. I wish she would have stayed, though, just to see her be PM.

Clay is a bitch. Hope he goes home soon. And when did James show up and get so cute?

Rebecca is useless. She offers nothing, she was a horrible PM and she puts her personal feelings over professional ones.[/quote]

She seemed better this episode, but that expo was so bad that I can't believe that she has much talent for this contest. And she put her faith in Toral. You could tell how bad she felt as she listened to Toral's hate-filled rants. I hope she, Marshawn, and Jenn M. can defend themselves from the likes of the Witches of Eastwick.

Mischievious

Oct 13, 2005 @ 10:04 pm

I heart Mark and Randall. Those two men are adorable and funny.

Yay! Toral is gone. I'm thinking of getting up early to watch the Today show tomorrow.

Did no one else notice the evil look on Felicia's face when Jen the beauty queen and Marshawn were talking about putting the logo on the mascot? Especially when Marshawn was supporting Jen's claim that she wanted the logo on it?

Bassari99

Oct 13, 2005 @ 10:05 pm

The criteria under which Toral was fired was bigger than this task alone. She was subtly contemptuous of the task last week and openly so this week. Her contempt for the task and the rest of her team ("I'm glad they lost") expanded into contempt for the competition itself and contempt for Trump. You don't keep someone around who has that attitude toward you.[/quote]
I agree with this, Ashforth. It begs the question why Toral would even want to be on this show. Most of the tasks call for some kind of degradation. Anyone who has seen the show even once knows that. If Toral really wanted to work for Trump, there were other avenues she could have pursued that didn't involve being a contestant on his reality show. Also, Trump has many reasons for firing the people he does, and it's not always because they played a direct part in losing the task for the team. Toral was divisive and a drain on the morale of the team. And unlike Markus, she had no intention of trying to adapt to become more of a team player. That kind of inflexibility is glaring. In light of that, I think tonight's firing was appropriate.

rsenor

Oct 13, 2005 @ 10:05 pm

I find myself hoping again for a male vs. male finale, because most of them women are pretty much deplorable. [/quote]

I disagree. I think that if Jenn can avoid looking like she is trying to skank it up for points, and Rebecca can use diplomacy when she knows its in her best interest, that both of them may have a chance.

Randal is my current pick though. He is respectful, respected, effective, pleasant...I think its his game to loose right now.

lauriecake

Oct 13, 2005 @ 10:05 pm

Stopstopstop, Apprentices, please stop saying 'at the end of the day...' [/quote]

ITA. Also retire "Step up to the plate," and "think outside the box."

ellisbell

Oct 13, 2005 @ 10:07 pm

To the best of my knowledge, we have no idea what Toral's religion is. She could be a Mormon or a Muslim.

I assume if she's a fundamentalist Christian, someone in the Bush administration will let us know.

Meanwhile Marshawn and Rebecca are so smart and so pretty they should have their own TV series. I really liked how Marshawn parried Trump's question and how Rebecca was able to state why she felt Toral had not lived up to her potential, and how she apologized to Toral for her comments.

Adam is very cute. I'm starting to think of him as Baby Andy.

Lanka

Oct 13, 2005 @ 10:07 pm

Thank god Toral's gone. You could say she's not the reason they lost the task, but that was already answered in the boardroom (by Marshawn?) - if someone doesn't do anything, they can't contribute either to the win or to the loss.

Just some things that she said (from memory, so paraphrasing):

Can't wait until this team implodes.
I'm honestly hoping we're gonna lose.
These girls are only good for hanging up balloons.
Yes, Mr. Trump but who are you listening to? (condescending smirk in the direction of everyone else).
I would not hire these women as secretaries. On the regular basis I would not even talk to people like Felisha and Kristi.

Hate! Hate! Hate! So glad she's gone. She contributed absolutely nothing in 4 tasks! Does anybody think it would be funny if she refused to wear the costume for religious reasons, but then she shows up half-naked on some Apprentice Calendar or Maxim magazine? She was full of shit.

That said, I pretty much hate everyone else on the women's team.

Uniblondes could have handled the whole situation in much classier manner.

Jen M. made a couple of good points but as soon as I heard "as a former beauty queen" I started having flashbacks of Erin. I finally realized what's wrong with her, from a distance she looks good but on closeups you realize she has a fat face.

Marshawn - my favorite - great points in the boardroom, great save during the presentation, not part of the coven. At this point I honestly hopes she wins it all, because I have seen a lot more good performance from her than anybody else. Rebecca - second favorite among the women.

The men: Clay sucks and James is kinda cute.

Fire Starter

Oct 13, 2005 @ 10:07 pm

Toral, miserable beyatch, is contemptible beyond belief. Minorities in the workplace constantly have to deal with the problem of stereotypes and now she comes up with this bogus excuse that she can't contribute effectively to her team's effort because of her "culture" and "religion"? Having nothing else to offer, she falls back on trying to exploit her minority status, hoping that everyone in the boardroom will be reluctant to appear insensitive or racist by finding fault with her. What does she care if through her tactic, she suggests that Indian Americans might not pull their weight because of their already misunderstood religion/culture? My loathing for her knows no bounds....

Zycron

Oct 13, 2005 @ 10:07 pm

Eeek! Jennie the Genie was terrifying. Oy. That "mascot" is gonna give me nightmares tonight. Creeeepy! She looked like a cross between Nip/Tuck's serial killer "The Carver" and some blow-up sex doll. If I saw that thing coming at me, I would seriously run the other way screaming.

doozie

Oct 13, 2005 @ 10:09 pm

Mr. Met and his yooge baseball head - he rocks!

LolaLilaLilly

Oct 13, 2005 @ 10:12 pm

As much as I HATE the Siroirty Sisters of Blonde, I really hated Toral more. She was stuck-up, full of herself, kept looking down her nose at these other women who're just as deserving to be there as she is and too sure of her own superiority.

Good riddance to her.

And I find myself falling more and more in love with Rebecca every week, she's smart, sexy, capable, can be diplomatic when she needs to be and even knows when to give up and throw her friend to the dogs.

Another good firing.

rsenor

Oct 13, 2005 @ 10:20 pm

coastcat

Oct 13, 2005 @ 10:21 pm

Eeek! Jennie the Genie was terrifying. Oy. That "mascot" is gonna give me nightmares tonight. Creeeepy! She looked like a cross between Nip/Tuck's serial killer "The Carver" and some blow-up sex doll. If I saw that thing coming at me, I would seriously run the other way screaming.[/quote]
Aha! Zycron, you really stepped up to the plate and thought outside the box at the end of the day. That's exactly what Excel's mascot looked like! A creepy, evil, blow-up doll.

risingsun

Oct 13, 2005 @ 10:24 pm

It's early in the game, but Rebecca, Marshawn and Jenn seem to have some intelligence and business sense. As they settle into the "interview," they could do well. Alla, Felisha and Kristi are turning into your/my basic nightmare. They are so busy trying to "get back" at someone, they "blow" on their tasks. That mascot was the stuff of nightmares. Here Chucky...Toral is delusional, narcissistic and histrionic. If she had just kept her mouth shut, there might have been a chance she would have escaped the finger of firing...but no. She talked herself right down to the street. Toral, you will not be missed.

mechitar

Oct 13, 2005 @ 10:23 pm

Not that Felisha or any of the Coven would have listened to reason, but Toral should have handled the "request" to be the mascot something like this:
"I'll do it if you insist, but that's something that requires a lot of exuberance and preferably an acting background, so someone else on the team probably has a better aptitude for it than me. Or, if none of us feels up to it, I'd suggest that we draw straws."

ferretrick

Oct 13, 2005 @ 10:23 pm

Yeah. Also rolled my eyes thinking "they picked the one with the bigger breasts"[/quote]

I could not stop thinking that they were not serious about pitching such a sexist symbol in the year 2005. I can't belive no one even MENTIONED the implications of presenting a genie/female slave figure as a potential mascot for a company. I actually thought it was going to lose the men the task. But the DQ execs didn't say anything about it.

It also didn't help that Jennie looked like one of them had had a vision of Barbara Eden after watching an I Dream of Jeanie episode while smoking a joint.

YoureSoUrban

Oct 13, 2005 @ 10:27 pm

Now that Toral is gone, I am looking forward to the blonde coven cannabalizing themselves...I think it will be a spectacular takedown, and I'm looking forward to seeing Kristi get the door in the ass first.[/quote]

Much as I would love it, I fear Kristi won't be the first of the Uniblondes to go. I think that dishonor will go to Felisha. In this episode she struck me as that Mean Girl who was mostly mean to gain approval from the Meaner Girl (Kristi). Most of her cattiness was followed by a glance at or sidebar w/ Kristi. I hope Jen will be the last blonde standing.

Brinswan

Oct 13, 2005 @ 10:30 pm

I actually didn't mind Toral, because I think she was right. Those girls are idiots. I'm sorry, Kristi is a moron. If Torel didn't want to wear the costume, why couldn't someone else just wear it? It seemed so much more logical the way the guys went about it -- one of them just volunteered for it. It was so obvious they were targeting Torel. There was no reason why Torel, and Torel alone had to wear that thing. It was crazy of Torel to say those ridiculous things on national television, and to say them out loud, but she was basically right. How stupid do you have to be to not realize your mascot should somehow be recognizable? Of course, Torel didn't seem to do much to argue that position. Also, if Trump agreed with her that almost everyone on her team was an incompetent, raging moron, well that might come a little too close to recognition that the whole show is ridiculously flawed.

bettyfinn

Oct 13, 2005 @ 10:32 pm

It also didn't help that Jennie looked like one of them had had a vision of Barbara Eden after watching an I Dream of Jeanie episode while smoking a joint. [/quote]

Well they are living with Jen M. What did you expect?

Braxton Hicks

Oct 13, 2005 @ 10:34 pm

Rebecca's performance in the boardroom deserves an Oscar (or an apprenticeship) - the way she managed to jettison Toral while giving the impression of humilty, integrity and professionalism was masterful.

It was a brilliant move. She saw that Toral was going to be torn down by the wrath of the Blondes and that her only hope of not becoming the next victim was to stab her friend in the back. She even gave her a little Judas kiss after the betrayal (or did I just imagine that ?).

I think she's the best boardroom player we've ever seen.

Meanwhile, as a gay man, I find Clay's behaviour so very depressing. I'm amazed he can move his head, the chip on his shoulder's so large. There's no reason to assume that his control freak tendencies and defensive manner are anything to do with his sexuality, but I'm tempted to think that it may be one of the reasons that he feels the need to overstate his "Type A" personality.

Or he might just be an asshat.

crystalsage

Oct 13, 2005 @ 10:34 pm

Who knew that DQ stood for Drag Queen? The DQ Genie looked like the masthead of a ship that went down 200 years ago and was recently dredged up from the ocean floor. Scary. Can't add anything to the Toral-hate that hasn't been said except that for someone who claimed she didn't have marketing experience and had to decline the PM job, she certainly was able to spout off all the marketing cliches when she trashed her team in the boardroom.

Bulldog

Oct 13, 2005 @ 10:35 pm

I actually think that the men's idea was very good in theory, even if the results were a little freaky. Major points to Mark for being a good sport about it. I did wonder why they couldn't have hired a female model to wear the costume (no duct tape required!).

Line of the night: Randal: We want people to want to do everything with Jeannie. It cracked me up.

Except for Clay, none of the men are really irritating yet. Even Markus has become tolerable.

I so hope that when Toral meets whatever diety she worships, there is a secretary outside his office screening who gets in.

Kristi, Felisha, Alla: Mean Girls revisited.

Rebecca and Marshawn are the women to beat at this point.

tiggeril

Oct 13, 2005 @ 10:37 pm

Much as I would love it, I fear Kristi won't be the first of the Uniblondes to go. I think that dishonor will go to Felisha. In this episode she struck me as that Mean Girl who was mostly mean to gain approval from the Meaner Girl (Kristi). Most of her cattiness was followed by a glance at or sidebar w/ Kristi.[/quote]
I agree. These women are very close to surpassing the bitches of TA2 in terms of shameful behavior.

King Solomon

Oct 13, 2005 @ 10:38 pm

Stopstopstop, Apprentices, please stop saying 'at the end of the day...'[/quote]

ITA. Also retire "Step up to the plate," and "think outside the box."[/quote]

It is called the Apprentice Drinking Game. You drink whenever someone says,

"At the end of the day"
"Step up to the plate" (finally appropriate this episode) or
"Think outside the box"

I was blitzed 15 minutes into this episode.

Seriously, why do people drone into these cliches? Do they not have a mind of their own and only say the things they hear? Sorry, that wound up being a rhetorical question. I actually developed a twitch tonight listening to seemingly every person give their own version of how to use "step up to the plate" in a sentence. I think I am damaged for life.

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