Since when do men call each other "bitches?" When they're gay? I thought that was bizarre[/quote]
My husband and I argued over this last night. He thought Josh would never have said that if he hadn't been gay. I thought it was just because he really was acting like a little B*%*! and Josh would have said that no matter who it was acting like that. I told him, it reminded me of the way he and his frat brothers in college used to talk about other guys they didn't like, regardless of their sexual orientation. Anyone else have thought's on this?
My husband and I argued over this last night. He thought Josh would never have said that if he hadn't been gay. I thought it was just because he really was acting like a little B*%*! and Josh would have said that no matter who it was acting like that. I told him, it reminded me of the way he and his frat brothers in college used to talk about other guys they didn't like, regardless of their sexual orientation. Anyone else have thought's on this?
One doesn't need a reason to be a bitch, and being smart has little to do with it.[/quote]
Hee!
Did anyone else think that Carolyn looked kind of happy to see Rebecca standing up for herself with Trump? She had a look on her face like she was pretty impressed with her.
Hee!
Did anyone else think that Carolyn looked kind of happy to see Rebecca standing up for herself with Trump? She had a look on her face like she was pretty impressed with her.
Question - werent the blondes the same ones who bitched about Marshawn not babysitting them during the video shoot? I think it was Kristi who voted against immunity for Marshawn and the other two voted for it. I think this may be where Rebecca got her "us against them" from.[/quote]
Yep. I completely agree.
Yep. I completely agree.
I wish I understood why most of the women's team take so many things so personally. From Jennifer's utter devastation because people found fault with her to Rebecca's loyal-till-death vibe or that beauty queen's Look-at-me!! poses or Toral's narcissism even though she hasn't done anything even mildly semi-remarkable yet...most of them don't seem to really care about being productive or efficient or seriously engaged in the projects. Instead, the various tasks and conversations are only vehicles for their massive egos. (Marshawn is the obvious and fine exception.)
The men's team, on the other hand, seem to have a more of a healthy respect for the tasks they're doing and even for each other. They come across as less self-obsessed. Even when they were being cliquish (sp?) with Marcus in earlier episodes, I got the impression that they were motivated more by a genuine annoyance with his haplessness rather than a personal dislike.
The men's team, on the other hand, seem to have a more of a healthy respect for the tasks they're doing and even for each other. They come across as less self-obsessed. Even when they were being cliquish (sp?) with Marcus in earlier episodes, I got the impression that they were motivated more by a genuine annoyance with his haplessness rather than a personal dislike.
I wish I understood why most of the women's team take so many things so personally.[/quote]
The gross generalization is that women are more social than men. One of the interesting aspects to this reality-TV stuff is watching people totally driven by their DNA. How many times on Survivor do folks (men and women) instinctively look to the tall, dominant male to be the leader? You get to see the social dynamics play out in the same patterns over and over.
One of the patterns is the clique, and the strength of cliques and "groupthink". Scary shit really.
Topic? I hate Kristi and her just-stepped-in-poop face.
The gross generalization is that women are more social than men. One of the interesting aspects to this reality-TV stuff is watching people totally driven by their DNA. How many times on Survivor do folks (men and women) instinctively look to the tall, dominant male to be the leader? You get to see the social dynamics play out in the same patterns over and over.
One of the patterns is the clique, and the strength of cliques and "groupthink". Scary shit really.
Topic? I hate Kristi and her just-stepped-in-poop face.
Okay, one thing that bothered me last night was that the results could so easily be skewed based on the fact that there were different groups evaluating the teams. One group might have just been more inclined to give higher scores. Kind of like in college where some profs you have to mess up to not get in the A range where others are like "A C is average. That means the majority of you will get Cs." I think the group that scored the men probably scored harder than the ladies.
Kristi bugs. However, I disagree with those of you who have stated that she is incompetent. (This is just my opinion; I don't mean that in a mean way.) The first task, she was PM, and it was a close result. The only real flub was the XXX flier, and while a big one, I don't think shows her to be incompetent. Week 2, she was a complainer when Marshawn wasn't actively involved in the video making, but she was one of the three who produced the video, which was very good. I find her obnoxious and annoying. But so far, I don't see why she is being labeled incompetent. Of course, if she keeps up with all the complaining, she will be a disruptive force, and need to leave.
Kristi bugs. However, I disagree with those of you who have stated that she is incompetent. (This is just my opinion; I don't mean that in a mean way.) The first task, she was PM, and it was a close result. The only real flub was the XXX flier, and while a big one, I don't think shows her to be incompetent. Week 2, she was a complainer when Marshawn wasn't actively involved in the video making, but she was one of the three who produced the video, which was very good. I find her obnoxious and annoying. But so far, I don't see why she is being labeled incompetent. Of course, if she keeps up with all the complaining, she will be a disruptive force, and need to leave.
Since when do men call each other "bitches?" When they're gay?[/quote]
Yeah, that bothered me too. Because I think it's really just another way of calling a man 'girlie", just in a harsher way. Considering also that Clay is a small guy who seems a little shy and awkward, I thought the comment was sexist and nasty. Haaaaaate hate hate hate hate Josh.
Yeah, that bothered me too. Because I think it's really just another way of calling a man 'girlie", just in a harsher way. Considering also that Clay is a small guy who seems a little shy and awkward, I thought the comment was sexist and nasty. Haaaaaate hate hate hate hate Josh.
Is it Markus or Marcus? Anyway, Clay just immediately decided when Marcus suggested it that TiVo would not be a good thing to showcase and proceeded to tell them all so. Basically, he bitched before he even saw how it would work.[/quote]
What was a real mistake was HDTV. The technologies that the men's team showed really do change the way you live, like the Web, digital photography, and Tivo. I don't know how I did without those things, really.
HDTV is TV. Yup, it's high definition. Whee. It doesn't fundamentally change the way you do things. And by the way, ever notice that lots of the old folks don't see so good anyways?
What was a real mistake was HDTV. The technologies that the men's team showed really do change the way you live, like the Web, digital photography, and Tivo. I don't know how I did without those things, really.
HDTV is TV. Yup, it's high definition. Whee. It doesn't fundamentally change the way you do things. And by the way, ever notice that lots of the old folks don't see so good anyways?
Going off his NBC profile interview, Clay is a raging sexist too. I have no sympathy for him.
I know this might be a stupid question, but I'm having trouble coming up with a definitive answer for myself, even though I've watched every episode of this show. Is the general impression that Trump fires people based on the task, or is it overall contribution?
I know this might be a stupid question, but I'm having trouble coming up with a definitive answer for myself, even though I've watched every episode of this show. Is the general impression that Trump fires people based on the task, or is it overall contribution? [/quote]
welcomematt, I don't think there has been any pattern to Trump's firings at all. Sometimes it's task, sometimes it's overall. Sometimes he's just grumpy and someone says the wrong thing.
welcomematt, I don't think there has been any pattern to Trump's firings at all. Sometimes it's task, sometimes it's overall. Sometimes he's just grumpy and someone says the wrong thing.
I know this might be a stupid question, but I'm having trouble coming up with a definitive answer for myself, even though I've watched every episode of this show. Is the general impression that Trump fires people based on the task, or is it overall contribution? [/quote]
welcomematt, I'm going give you my answer in "The Donald" thread, since it doesn' have that much to do with this episode.
welcomematt, I'm going give you my answer in "The Donald" thread, since it doesn' have that much to do with this episode.
Also, with all of those women, one of them should have known how to operate the television they were demonstrating. If they couldn't have done any better than Toral, then they shouldn't be throwing stones. If they could have done better, they should have stepped in and done it.[/quote]
Didn't Marshawn actually do that? Lots of footage of Toral, who has "actually worked in the large corporate...industry" (or whatever synonym for "soulless" she actually used) screwing up again and again, which was very funny, then Marshawn walked over and got the Tivo working. I think she even remarked off-handedly about it, something to the effect that "if you see someone who doesn't know what they're doing, you should go help, since it's good for the team."
Wow, who'd have ever thought Markus actually would shut up? Even with Trump egging him on..."Any questions? No questions? Markus, do you have a question?" Hee! It looked like Markus was reallllly fighting the urge to blab something out there!
I was pleasantly surprised that the other guys agreed they needed to work together, and Markus went along with the plan. He seemed to be relating to some of the seniors quite well; I'd never have suspected he had a personable side, but there it was.
Looks like Clay's the team jerk now. If Markus can keep the ole trap shut and continue contributing on the tasks, Clay will be the only one on the men's team I hate. The women's team, OTOH, has a much higher hateable-quotient.
I think Trump was right to axe Jen W., but I'm eagerly awaiting the downfall of Too-Smart Toral, who thinks turning on a teevee is "beneath her," as well as Kristi the scheming little chipmunk, and harpyesque Rebecca. I'm still liking Marshawn, and scheming Alla is at least most entertaining (which scheming Kristi is just...NOT).
The guys' team does think like a team; the women seem more like mainly better-educated-than-the-averrrrrage famewhores.
Didn't Marshawn actually do that? Lots of footage of Toral, who has "actually worked in the large corporate...industry" (or whatever synonym for "soulless" she actually used) screwing up again and again, which was very funny, then Marshawn walked over and got the Tivo working. I think she even remarked off-handedly about it, something to the effect that "if you see someone who doesn't know what they're doing, you should go help, since it's good for the team."
Wow, who'd have ever thought Markus actually would shut up? Even with Trump egging him on..."Any questions? No questions? Markus, do you have a question?" Hee! It looked like Markus was reallllly fighting the urge to blab something out there!
I was pleasantly surprised that the other guys agreed they needed to work together, and Markus went along with the plan. He seemed to be relating to some of the seniors quite well; I'd never have suspected he had a personable side, but there it was.
Looks like Clay's the team jerk now. If Markus can keep the ole trap shut and continue contributing on the tasks, Clay will be the only one on the men's team I hate. The women's team, OTOH, has a much higher hateable-quotient.
I think Trump was right to axe Jen W., but I'm eagerly awaiting the downfall of Too-Smart Toral, who thinks turning on a teevee is "beneath her," as well as Kristi the scheming little chipmunk, and harpyesque Rebecca. I'm still liking Marshawn, and scheming Alla is at least most entertaining (which scheming Kristi is just...NOT).
The guys' team does think like a team; the women seem more like mainly better-educated-than-the-averrrrrage famewhores.
The gross generalization is that women are more social than men. [/quote]Well, over the course of three-plus seasons, we've seen all-women's teams engage in "paralysis by analysis" such as in TA2 when the women's team brainstormed ice cream flavors for a thousand hours and sucked up the joint. We've also seen all women's teams flourish and men's team screw up because the men under-analyzed things or fell in love with their own ideas, such as the Lamborghini task. So, take it for what it's worth.
I wish I understood why most of the women's team take so many things so personally. From Jennifer's utter devastation because people found fault with her to Rebecca's loyal-till-death vibe or that beauty queen's Look-at-me!! poses or Toral's narcissism even though she hasn't done anything even mildly semi-remarkable yet...most of them don't seem to really care about being productive or efficient or seriously engaged in the projects. Instead, the various tasks and conversations are only vehicles for their massive egos. (Marshawn is the obvious and fine exception.)
The men's team, on the other hand, seem to have a more of a healthy respect for the tasks they're doing and even for each other. They come across as less self-obsessed. Even when they were being cliquish (sp?) with Marcus in earlier episodes, I got the impression that they were motivated more by a genuine annoyance with his haplessness rather than a personal dislike.[/quote]
I noticed the same thing, FireStarter.
I also thought I'd never say it three weeks in a row, but I think Trump fired the right person this time. Rebecca was truly clueless in her inability to take Trump's hint and bring Toral into the boardroom, but JenW certainly was more clueless on her task. I mean, "Tethnology." Carol is my new Grammrian heroine for spotting that one.
Toral is banker? Why didn't she tell us?
Toral thinks learning the product she's selling is beneath a Wharton MBA? That's the problem with too many "top school" MBAs. Learning the ropes is beneath them.
Somebody needs to remind Toral that the richest man in America (before he died) and CEO of his own multi-billion dollar empire didn't finish high school.
She's such a tool and needs desperately to be fired.
Wonder what supper's going to be like for Capital Edge once Rebecca comes back from the boardroom after telling Trump & Co. the other women don't have what it takes to be an executive in his company.
Liked how everyone showed Markus that he did okay. He's still a dork, but he put a lid on it in this episode. His "I'm not wrong" Web site tells me we're in for more Markus incompetence in the future. But he made a real contribution this time. Even when everyone said Tivo was the wrong product to demo - he made it work.
The men's team, on the other hand, seem to have a more of a healthy respect for the tasks they're doing and even for each other. They come across as less self-obsessed. Even when they were being cliquish (sp?) with Marcus in earlier episodes, I got the impression that they were motivated more by a genuine annoyance with his haplessness rather than a personal dislike.[/quote]
I noticed the same thing, FireStarter.
I also thought I'd never say it three weeks in a row, but I think Trump fired the right person this time. Rebecca was truly clueless in her inability to take Trump's hint and bring Toral into the boardroom, but JenW certainly was more clueless on her task. I mean, "Tethnology." Carol is my new Grammrian heroine for spotting that one.
Toral is banker? Why didn't she tell us?
Toral thinks learning the product she's selling is beneath a Wharton MBA? That's the problem with too many "top school" MBAs. Learning the ropes is beneath them.
Somebody needs to remind Toral that the richest man in America (before he died) and CEO of his own multi-billion dollar empire didn't finish high school.
She's such a tool and needs desperately to be fired.
Wonder what supper's going to be like for Capital Edge once Rebecca comes back from the boardroom after telling Trump & Co. the other women don't have what it takes to be an executive in his company.
Liked how everyone showed Markus that he did okay. He's still a dork, but he put a lid on it in this episode. His "I'm not wrong" Web site tells me we're in for more Markus incompetence in the future. But he made a real contribution this time. Even when everyone said Tivo was the wrong product to demo - he made it work.
I'm very disappointed with Rebecca for bringing Jen M. instead of Toral. However, after hearing the well-composed arguments that Rebecca made, I felt that the right candidate was let go. Jen W. didn't compose herself well at all (albeit an understatement) and she presented herself as a very weak candidate in the final BR. Worst of all, that lame excuse she made about her grandmother loving cake really didn't go well with DT or the viceroys. Jen W. basically brought all of that onto herself. At least, Rebecca demonstrated that she does have enough potential to stay in the game. Plus, I have seen some deleted scenes from the Yahoo! Apprentice site which indicated that Rebecca contributed more than what we saw last night. Apparently, there was a deleted scene which showed Rebecca having a wheelchair race with one of the elderly women who was also wheelchair bound (the old lady won because she had a motor in her chair *LOL* ). It was some great-spirited fun and after that scene a scene showed people scoring high points there. Apparently, Jen M. wasn't the only one who scored brownie points with the elderly. While Jen M. was scoring major points by entertaining the old men, Rebecca also scored some points by entertaining the old ladies.
Furthermore, Rebecca was on painkillers (for broken ankle) and that may have been a factor on how she made her BR decision. There were several factors that made DT question himself on who should be fired. Yes! Rebecca made a very risky and very foolhardy move by bringing Jen M. instead of her best friend Toral. However, she also brought in Jen W. and Jen W. was clearly at fault for the women losing the task. Toral may have made some mistakes in the task and to be frank, I don't like Toral's snotty attitude. However, it was the botched-up event planning that resulted with the women losing the task and that was supposed to be the expertise of Jen W. and Jen W. got the well-deserved boot. Rebecca is at a major disadvantage because she never saw previous seasons of TA (TA3 winner Kendra watched TA before and that helped her to win). Rebecca is basically this season's underdog, which is why I'm rooting for her. However, I don't know if Jen M. will ever forgive Rebecca for bringing her into the final BR. However, if Jen M. is really a good candidate, she will just leave the BR in the BR and concentrate on the next task. All I do know is that Rebecca will have to get back in the game strong if she want to have any chance of winning this season. So far, I see Jen M., Marshawn, Randal, and James as the strongest candidates. Alla and Felisha both seem to have some alliance with Kristi so they don't deserve any mention from me. This was only the 3rd episode so we have more episodes to see whether or not Rebecca learns from her mistakes and comes back strong.
BTW, Jen W. was brought in by Rebecca and Jen W. screwed up so badly that DT simply decided to fire Jen W. and keep Rebecca. Chris, OTOH, brought in Markus and Markus was not responsible for the men losing the 2nd task. Chris truly deserved to be fired.
Furthermore, Rebecca was on painkillers (for broken ankle) and that may have been a factor on how she made her BR decision. There were several factors that made DT question himself on who should be fired. Yes! Rebecca made a very risky and very foolhardy move by bringing Jen M. instead of her best friend Toral. However, she also brought in Jen W. and Jen W. was clearly at fault for the women losing the task. Toral may have made some mistakes in the task and to be frank, I don't like Toral's snotty attitude. However, it was the botched-up event planning that resulted with the women losing the task and that was supposed to be the expertise of Jen W. and Jen W. got the well-deserved boot. Rebecca is at a major disadvantage because she never saw previous seasons of TA (TA3 winner Kendra watched TA before and that helped her to win). Rebecca is basically this season's underdog, which is why I'm rooting for her. However, I don't know if Jen M. will ever forgive Rebecca for bringing her into the final BR. However, if Jen M. is really a good candidate, she will just leave the BR in the BR and concentrate on the next task. All I do know is that Rebecca will have to get back in the game strong if she want to have any chance of winning this season. So far, I see Jen M., Marshawn, Randal, and James as the strongest candidates. Alla and Felisha both seem to have some alliance with Kristi so they don't deserve any mention from me. This was only the 3rd episode so we have more episodes to see whether or not Rebecca learns from her mistakes and comes back strong.
BTW, Jen W. was brought in by Rebecca and Jen W. screwed up so badly that DT simply decided to fire Jen W. and keep Rebecca. Chris, OTOH, brought in Markus and Markus was not responsible for the men losing the 2nd task. Chris truly deserved to be fired.
That's the problem with too many "top school" MBAs. Learning the ropes is beneath them.[/quote]I think you're right. My wife is an executive in a big, publicly traded company and when she's part of an interview with some recent Wharton grad (or some other big MBA program) they come off very cocky and think they know everything. They have actually hired one, who quit two weeks later saying something to the effect of "I can't be used properly here" or "I don't have anything to learn here" because the work or learning something was beneath them.
I know it's petty, but Jennifer W. and the baby voice were getting on my last damn nerve. I just could never take anyone seriously in business who sounded like they were a five year old stuck in a twenty something's body. Plus that whole "how can 7 brilliant, beautiful women be wrong" speech sounded like sorority/beauty pageant speak and made me want to yak.
As for Toral - I agree that much of her screwing up could be editing. But if she was repeatedly turning the tv off and unable to demonstrate the technology I completely fault her. If she knew it was her job to demonstrate the tivo or whatever, it was her responsibility to read up on it, get comfortable with it and be prepared to give a competent demonstration. She came across to me as extremely lazy.
As for Toral - I agree that much of her screwing up could be editing. But if she was repeatedly turning the tv off and unable to demonstrate the technology I completely fault her. If she knew it was her job to demonstrate the tivo or whatever, it was her responsibility to read up on it, get comfortable with it and be prepared to give a competent demonstration. She came across to me as extremely lazy.
So I guess Rebecca = Ivette and Toral = Cappy? You know, that immediate, compulsive, obsessive love.
I am still unable to find any coherence in this segment of the boardroom:
George: "An executive needs to be able to be flexible."
Bad-Skater-Chick: "Are you saying *I* am inflexible?!? I took on the project manager roll with a broken ankle..."[/quote]
Anyone else noticing that Donald and his harem conveniently change whatever they have to say to justify their criticism? I am betting if Bad-Skater-Chick had of caved in and brought in Snotty-Investment-Banker instead, they would have found a way to criticize her for caving in and not being strong enough. The whole concept is getting old. The only thing that doesn't get old is Carolyn (Caroline?). YUM! I do like it better when she is out and out laughing at incompetence rather than just noting it.
Edit: Punctuation should be my friend.
Bad-Skater-Chick: "Are you saying *I* am inflexible?!? I took on the project manager roll with a broken ankle..."[/quote]
Anyone else noticing that Donald and his harem conveniently change whatever they have to say to justify their criticism? I am betting if Bad-Skater-Chick had of caved in and brought in Snotty-Investment-Banker instead, they would have found a way to criticize her for caving in and not being strong enough. The whole concept is getting old. The only thing that doesn't get old is Carolyn (Caroline?). YUM! I do like it better when she is out and out laughing at incompetence rather than just noting it.
Edit: Punctuation should be my friend.
Something chaps my ass...
Toral went to Wharton. Big whoopdeedo, but for her to talk about the education and professional experience of the other female Apprenti, just makes me wanna slap her.
With the exception of attending Wharton, there is nothing in her bio that puts her high above anyone else on her team.
Hell, I am much more impressed with Alla and Kristi's accomplishments (even though I don't like either of them).
Toral went to Wharton. Big whoopdeedo, but for her to talk about the education and professional experience of the other female Apprenti, just makes me wanna slap her.
With the exception of attending Wharton, there is nothing in her bio that puts her high above anyone else on her team.
Hell, I am much more impressed with Alla and Kristi's accomplishments (even though I don't like either of them).
I think Rebecca's strategy for the BR was a combination of the two previous boardrooms and Survivor. By bringing in the reason for the defeat - Jen W. and member of the opposing clique- Jen M. While Jen M. was not as bad as Markus, who also had nothing to do with his team's defeat either, Rebecca was probably hoping to either get rid of the incompetent one or at least weaken the clique and establish a position of dominance in the group.. Jen W. was merely incompetent and Rebecca probably figured JEN W. was an easy kill, but then she still had the "PM has ultimate responsibility for the team argument" working against her. Bringing in a member of the blonde clique let her deflect focus from her shortcomings and concentrate on team unity and cohesion, and how the clique was not "playing well with others". Her standing up forcefully for her friend even to DT earned her brownie points because she was able to frame it on her terms and the other two never were able to call her on her BS. She played that BR to her advantage by giving Trump an out for keeping her. Yes she failed as a leader but at least she was willing to fight for someone she felt was more competent than the blondes. This puts the clique on notice that they may not want her in the BR with them if they lose again since she was able to impress DT with her strength. So it at least gives her some control over her group and what happens in the game.
As for Toral ... If she knew it was her job to demonstrate the [T]ivo or whatever, it was her responsibility to read up on it, get comfortable with it and be prepared to give a competent demonstration. She came across to me as extremely lazy.[/quote]
Toral wasn't just lazy, she was snooty. Her area (as she stated in the BR) is banking and "high" finance. So's mine, sweetheart, and I know how to operate my TV. Get over yourself.
I fault Rebecca as PM for this one as well. If you know your project on the morrow is demonstrating a product, make sure your demo people are skilled and knowledgeable. Have them at least read the &$#@! directions the night before.
Toral wasn't just lazy, she was snooty. Her area (as she stated in the BR) is banking and "high" finance. So's mine, sweetheart, and I know how to operate my TV. Get over yourself.
I fault Rebecca as PM for this one as well. If you know your project on the morrow is demonstrating a product, make sure your demo people are skilled and knowledgeable. Have them at least read the &$#@! directions the night before.
I just could never take anyone seriously in business who sounded like they were a five year old stuck in a twenty something's body.[/quote]
That whole grown woman sounding like a five-year-old-on-helium bugs me, too. I could never stand to watch Jennifer Tilly or Meg Griffith for the same reason.
Benrod1 you may have a point on Rebecca's strategy. She preserved her ally, Snotty Banker B****, and survived by bringing in someone who definitely did not perform well. JenW may have argued in the cab-terview that she was a good event planner, but I don't think the folks in the Information Tethnology department will be hiring her for their next shindig.
That whole grown woman sounding like a five-year-old-on-helium bugs me, too. I could never stand to watch Jennifer Tilly or Meg Griffith for the same reason.
Benrod1 you may have a point on Rebecca's strategy. She preserved her ally, Snotty Banker B****, and survived by bringing in someone who definitely did not perform well. JenW may have argued in the cab-terview that she was a good event planner, but I don't think the folks in the Information Tethnology department will be hiring her for their next shindig.
So far, I see Jen M., Marshawn, Randal, and James as the strongest candidates.[/quote]James? I'm curious, what has James done to make himself a strong candidate? At this point, I'm not sure I even know exactly which one he is.
So I guess Rebecca = Ivette and Toral = Cappy? You know, that immediate, compulsive, obsessive love. [/quote]
That was low. What has Rebecca and Toral ever done to you! Hee!
I am not impressed by anyone yet. I just hate how the editing sometimes manipulates the way you react to some of the candidates. They kept showing Toral fumbling with the tv and I kept thinking what an idiot. But for all I know this could have happened in her first attempt in a 5 minute span, but from the editing it makes me think she was clueless all day and didn't attempt to fix her little problem. I don't trust the editing at all.
What bugs me the most is when they show the faccial reactions shots. It's like are they really reacting to what you just said or was that a reaction from 12 days ago.
After watching Big Brother, I need live feeds to fully figure these people out.
That was low. What has Rebecca and Toral ever done to you! Hee!
I am not impressed by anyone yet. I just hate how the editing sometimes manipulates the way you react to some of the candidates. They kept showing Toral fumbling with the tv and I kept thinking what an idiot. But for all I know this could have happened in her first attempt in a 5 minute span, but from the editing it makes me think she was clueless all day and didn't attempt to fix her little problem. I don't trust the editing at all.
What bugs me the most is when they show the faccial reactions shots. It's like are they really reacting to what you just said or was that a reaction from 12 days ago.
After watching Big Brother, I need live feeds to fully figure these people out.
Rebecca is hot. Forget Sandra Bullock and Posh Spice, etc. She looks like Anna Paquin.
Aw, don't take it like that. Real life isn't the Apprentice (thank God) and there are no Hair-Color Wars in real life (that I know of, anyway). I only meant these blondes and these brunettes. The blondes did say something about Toral that was like, "she's not one of us," didn't they? So if Toral and her BFF Rebecca saw where things were going and wanted to screw them right back, I see no problem with that, strategy-wise. [/quote]
I'm not taking it personally, really, just having a bit of fun. Sorry for the misunderstanding, no problem . . . and I see the point. To me, Kristi and Felisha were every bit as bad, in their complaining, as Rebecca and Toral. Alla is critical, but her point made sense to me (Rebecca was talking AT the other women, and not talking TO them), and so far, Alla's handling of the video last week has been the brightest spot on the women's team. So, she has an accomplishment to back up her talk. Kristi, Felisha, Rebecca and Toral don't, at least not so far. In that, they seem more alike to me than different.
I'm not taking it personally, really, just having a bit of fun. Sorry for the misunderstanding, no problem . . . and I see the point. To me, Kristi and Felisha were every bit as bad, in their complaining, as Rebecca and Toral. Alla is critical, but her point made sense to me (Rebecca was talking AT the other women, and not talking TO them), and so far, Alla's handling of the video last week has been the brightest spot on the women's team. So, she has an accomplishment to back up her talk. Kristi, Felisha, Rebecca and Toral don't, at least not so far. In that, they seem more alike to me than different.
I personally believe Donald Trump should have called the person who made the cake and put "Tethno Expo" on it in huge letters, and promptly fired that person. I don't care who it was. [/quote]
It was Jen W. who was responsible for that mistake.
It was Jen W. who was responsible for that mistake.
So I guess Rebecca = Ivette and Toral = Cappy? You know, that immediate, compulsive, obsessive love. [/quote]
If Rebecca in the future tries to take the fall for Toral again, it will be. I can't take anymore of it, either.
If Rebecca in the future tries to take the fall for Toral again, it will be. I can't take anymore of it, either.
And I thought Rebecca was firm and slightly patronizing. But in no way was she a horror as PM that we saw. [/quote]
I thought she was absolutely awful.
First, the event was completely, appallingly bad. The environment, the refreshments, the lack of decor, the lack (as Carolyn said) of even a sign--anyone welcoming people in--....anything....It was a complete and total dud and Rebecca (1) thought it was okay, and (2) was the person most responsible for the fact that it wasn't.
Also, the presenters were completely inept and badly prepared. This again, reflects on the PM--who did NOTHING to make the expo good--or to TRY to improve it when it was tanking.
Third, she should have been fired for her extremely offensive comment about the women on her team, other than Toral. To say that none of them were worthy of Trump except as clerical workers was insulting. George called her on it--Trump is too easily fooled to see what an outrageous remark that was.
Jen W was bad, but Rebecca was responsible and did -many- things that she should have been fired for.
I thought she was absolutely awful.
First, the event was completely, appallingly bad. The environment, the refreshments, the lack of decor, the lack (as Carolyn said) of even a sign--anyone welcoming people in--....anything....It was a complete and total dud and Rebecca (1) thought it was okay, and (2) was the person most responsible for the fact that it wasn't.
Also, the presenters were completely inept and badly prepared. This again, reflects on the PM--who did NOTHING to make the expo good--or to TRY to improve it when it was tanking.
Third, she should have been fired for her extremely offensive comment about the women on her team, other than Toral. To say that none of them were worthy of Trump except as clerical workers was insulting. George called her on it--Trump is too easily fooled to see what an outrageous remark that was.
Jen W was bad, but Rebecca was responsible and did -many- things that she should have been fired for.
Oh, wow, did Rebecca bug me. She looked totally psycho in the board room. "ME??? inflexible???" - while making this rigid, totally manic face and talking a mile a minute.
I wasn't that peeved that Toral didn't get pulled into the board room, but it ticked me off that she pulled in Jen M. for no reason whatsoever. And I thought her defensive attitude in the boardroom generally sucked.
Jen W. probably did deserve to go, but why was only one person dealing with presentation? They didn't need four women to go to Best Buy to buy gadgets, look bored and complain that they weren't "jazzed" about the project. You need two people, tops, to go to Best Buy, commandeer a nice employee, and get them to pull together the equipment you want. Other people should have been developing ideas for how to set up the room.
Rebecca ultimately was responsible for having just one person on the presentation part and then not supervising her.
I wasn't that peeved that Toral didn't get pulled into the board room, but it ticked me off that she pulled in Jen M. for no reason whatsoever. And I thought her defensive attitude in the boardroom generally sucked.
Jen W. probably did deserve to go, but why was only one person dealing with presentation? They didn't need four women to go to Best Buy to buy gadgets, look bored and complain that they weren't "jazzed" about the project. You need two people, tops, to go to Best Buy, commandeer a nice employee, and get them to pull together the equipment you want. Other people should have been developing ideas for how to set up the room.
Rebecca ultimately was responsible for having just one person on the presentation part and then not supervising her.
My mother lives in a senoir's place and has trouble typing but loves the email thingy (i think that's the technical term) So a few years ago I got some voice recognition software for her and she loves it. Yes it is not perfect but it is good for her. I bet more people may have enjoyed seeing that than the bigscreen TV which i thought was a bad choice as the target audience has, in most cases nither the space nor the income to get one.
It bothers me also that in these posts every HATED markus for the last few weeks and now he has one good day and everyone loves him.
I agreed with the decision to send Jen M into the BR for two reasons
1. Her stupid pagent pose for the interviews
2. Her using her body to get good points, This does not show me you are smart, original, creative or anything else just pretty. To answer the poster from upthread about why women still are not equal in the workplace. This is why.
And how many times have we heard applicants say how they were the best for the job and better than everyone else Toral just said it in front of everybody. Big whoop.
Hey I enjoy Kristi's "Lectureviews," borrowed from Miss Alli's accounting of Ivana, they make for entertaining tv.
It bothers me also that in these posts every HATED markus for the last few weeks and now he has one good day and everyone loves him.
I agreed with the decision to send Jen M into the BR for two reasons
1. Her stupid pagent pose for the interviews
2. Her using her body to get good points, This does not show me you are smart, original, creative or anything else just pretty. To answer the poster from upthread about why women still are not equal in the workplace. This is why.
And how many times have we heard applicants say how they were the best for the job and better than everyone else Toral just said it in front of everybody. Big whoop.
Hey I enjoy Kristi's "Lectureviews," borrowed from Miss Alli's accounting of Ivana, they make for entertaining tv.
I agreed with the decision to send Jen M into the BR for two reasons
1. Her stupid pagent pose for the interviews
2. Her using her body to get good points, This does not show me you are smart, original, creative or anything else just pretty. To answer the poster from upthread about why women still are not equal in the workplace. This is why.[/quote]
I can see your point on this one, and she'll likely get on my nerves more in the future, but I figured the producers told her to pose like that, and she generally was helpful and demonstrated the products she was showing. As opposed to hiding behind a really disgusting-looking cake, wheeling around "supervising" but not really doing anything, screwing up the TV, going "Toral, why are you screwing up the TV?" without actually helping, etc.
1. Her stupid pagent pose for the interviews
2. Her using her body to get good points, This does not show me you are smart, original, creative or anything else just pretty. To answer the poster from upthread about why women still are not equal in the workplace. This is why.[/quote]
I can see your point on this one, and she'll likely get on my nerves more in the future, but I figured the producers told her to pose like that, and she generally was helpful and demonstrated the products she was showing. As opposed to hiding behind a really disgusting-looking cake, wheeling around "supervising" but not really doing anything, screwing up the TV, going "Toral, why are you screwing up the TV?" without actually helping, etc.
I meant the pose reason as a joke, I may be a guy but I'm not a complete idiot.
I do realise that her flirting was probably the main reason the women did as good as they did and she was contirbuting, and cute and helpful. It just bugs me that these SMART women always have to do that.
I do realise that her flirting was probably the main reason the women did as good as they did and she was contirbuting, and cute and helpful. It just bugs me that these SMART women always have to do that.
Bringing in a member of the blonde clique let her deflect focus from her shortcomings and concentrate on team unity and cohesion, and how the clique was not "playing well with others".[/quote]
Excellent point. She might have done better with that strategy had she chosen Kristi to fill the role of the clique representative, since Kristi nearly got fired when she lost as PM and then voted against most of the team about giving immunity to Marshawn. Jen M. hadn't done anything to put her on Donald's "bad" candidate radar.
Excellent point. She might have done better with that strategy had she chosen Kristi to fill the role of the clique representative, since Kristi nearly got fired when she lost as PM and then voted against most of the team about giving immunity to Marshawn. Jen M. hadn't done anything to put her on Donald's "bad" candidate radar.
Does anyone know when the show re-airs on MSNBC tonight?
Jen M. hadn't done anything to put her on Donald's "bad" candidate radar.[/quote]
She's the pageant princess anyway. She's not going unless she manages to kill somebody.
She's the pageant princess anyway. She's not going unless she manages to kill somebody.
Perhaps Rebecca knew exactly what she was doing when she selected Jen M. to bring back to the boardroom along with her and Jen W.! It's true that Jen M. seems to be in some kind of clique with Alla, Felisha, and Kristi. However, Jen M. is the strongest candidate of the clique and the other three look up to her. Rebecca deliberately called back the clique's strongest member in order to put them on notice. If Rebecca had called back the other members of the clique (Kristi in particular), Jen W. would still be fired. However, those other 3 clique members would immediately hold a grudge against Rebecca and Rebecca would never be safe in future tasks. Jen M. is the one who is all about business and she will be less likely to hold a grudge against Rebecca than the other clique members. Sure, Jen M. would be rather peeved at Becky for taking her to the final BR. However, I learned that Jen M. is above holding grudges and will most likely leave the BR in the BR. That way, Rebecca will have sent the clique a strong message and they will refrain from going after her next time. However, I don't think Rebecca will bail Toral out if Toral screws up again. Yikes! Eat your heart out, Jennifer Massey! Here comes Rebecca Jarvis! *LOL*
I have to admit, when Jen M was doing push-up's in front of the senior man in order to raise the heart rate, all I could think was thank God she's not doing jumping jacks. That probably would have led to a demonstration of a defibrulator.
You don't fire a Wharton graduate because she can't get the hang of programming a television.[/quote]
I wouldn't, either, but I would definitely advocate firing her if she 1) knew that she'd have to do a demo of programming the television in advance, 2) didn't bother to sit down and actually learn how to do it, and 3) later claimed that programming TV's was beneath her, as an excuse for the crappy job she made of it. In any job, you're going to get called on to do things you didn't expect from the job description, or didn't cover in your training. Your ability to adapt and learn quickly is a must.
Having missed the first two episodes, I had no prior opinion on any of the contestants, but Jen W. totally lost me when she got the job to do the event planning and said "I love old people!" in that chirpy tone you'd use to say "I love kitties!"
I wouldn't, either, but I would definitely advocate firing her if she 1) knew that she'd have to do a demo of programming the television in advance, 2) didn't bother to sit down and actually learn how to do it, and 3) later claimed that programming TV's was beneath her, as an excuse for the crappy job she made of it. In any job, you're going to get called on to do things you didn't expect from the job description, or didn't cover in your training. Your ability to adapt and learn quickly is a must.
Having missed the first two episodes, I had no prior opinion on any of the contestants, but Jen W. totally lost me when she got the job to do the event planning and said "I love old people!" in that chirpy tone you'd use to say "I love kitties!"
Ack! So many things to say about this episode.
1) Kristi - I HATE her attitude. I think they should force all the candidates to watch clips of Troy, Amy, and Bill and see how motivation comes from within, and how to lead despite not being the PM, and how to take responsibility, and all those other things you have to do in the real world.
2) Toral - Oh so sad, especially as an Indian female. Whereas I don't think she needed to be fired for this task, I think the right person was fired, I do think she needs to be fired for her outburst in the boardroom. Those are her bosses. In any job, you have performance reviews, you can and will be criticized for things you did wrong. The important thing is to have a proper defense: improvements you will make, why things went wrong, etc. Sometimes others are at fault, but putting them down because they are not as "smart" as you? Do I have to remind her that not all intelligent people have a certain job/education? I had this argument with a friend, he wondered why another brilliant friend did not want to go into a career that would make a lot of money, and that it was a waste of his intelligence. I disagreed with them, since you should do what you enjoy ... life isn't just about the dollar figure. But sadly, a lot of my friends in finance do measure success by that ... pedigree and money. :(
But, Toral, you can't yell or be rude to your boss. There are ways to defend yourself intelligently and diplomatically, and your outburst showed that you are not capable of that. And you are in a position to be judged, that's the point of the show.
Also, I hated her argument about how this task was below her. There is an interesting thing about most successful executives ... they can dip their hand in nearly anything and make it successful. It doesn't matter whether it is selling lemonade, or working a booth, you know how to make it work. I think in the era of easy money, a lot of people forgot what it was like to claw your way to the top. It's like how in engineering interviews, they ask logic puzzles ... it's about how you think and how you plan and how you react that is more telling than whether or not you know the right answer.
1) Kristi - I HATE her attitude. I think they should force all the candidates to watch clips of Troy, Amy, and Bill and see how motivation comes from within, and how to lead despite not being the PM, and how to take responsibility, and all those other things you have to do in the real world.
2) Toral - Oh so sad, especially as an Indian female. Whereas I don't think she needed to be fired for this task, I think the right person was fired, I do think she needs to be fired for her outburst in the boardroom. Those are her bosses. In any job, you have performance reviews, you can and will be criticized for things you did wrong. The important thing is to have a proper defense: improvements you will make, why things went wrong, etc. Sometimes others are at fault, but putting them down because they are not as "smart" as you? Do I have to remind her that not all intelligent people have a certain job/education? I had this argument with a friend, he wondered why another brilliant friend did not want to go into a career that would make a lot of money, and that it was a waste of his intelligence. I disagreed with them, since you should do what you enjoy ... life isn't just about the dollar figure. But sadly, a lot of my friends in finance do measure success by that ... pedigree and money. :(
But, Toral, you can't yell or be rude to your boss. There are ways to defend yourself intelligently and diplomatically, and your outburst showed that you are not capable of that. And you are in a position to be judged, that's the point of the show.
Also, I hated her argument about how this task was below her. There is an interesting thing about most successful executives ... they can dip their hand in nearly anything and make it successful. It doesn't matter whether it is selling lemonade, or working a booth, you know how to make it work. I think in the era of easy money, a lot of people forgot what it was like to claw your way to the top. It's like how in engineering interviews, they ask logic puzzles ... it's about how you think and how you plan and how you react that is more telling than whether or not you know the right answer.
It bothers me also that in these posts every HATED markus for the last few weeks and now he has one good day and everyone loves him.[/quote]
I don't love him because of last night's episode. I'm happy to see that he redeemed himself somewhat, and that Randal was apparently able to find the best in him, but I still think he will backslide in coming weeks.
I don't love him because of last night's episode. I'm happy to see that he redeemed himself somewhat, and that Randal was apparently able to find the best in him, but I still think he will backslide in coming weeks.
I haven't read all 23 pages, so forgive me if I repeat someone else's point...
I think the reason the women lost the task is not the misspelled cake or the lack of balloons or even that the HDTV demo didn't work. I think it was the choice of which products to demonstrate that really screwed them. What senior citizen's life would be improved by HDTV? I think the men's choice of TiVo was much better because that actually changes the experience of watching television and would be a significant quality of life improvement for people who watch a lot of tv.
I think senior citizens would want what the men demoed: a better way to take and view pictures and a better way to watch tv. A heart rate monitor? Not so much. A big screen HDTV? Not at all.
Rebecca should have been fired for complete lack of vision.
I think the reason the women lost the task is not the misspelled cake or the lack of balloons or even that the HDTV demo didn't work. I think it was the choice of which products to demonstrate that really screwed them. What senior citizen's life would be improved by HDTV? I think the men's choice of TiVo was much better because that actually changes the experience of watching television and would be a significant quality of life improvement for people who watch a lot of tv.
I think senior citizens would want what the men demoed: a better way to take and view pictures and a better way to watch tv. A heart rate monitor? Not so much. A big screen HDTV? Not at all.
Rebecca should have been fired for complete lack of vision.
While I thought Brunette Jen's firing was completely justified, I still just can't understand why Rebecca wasn't fired for not bringing in Toral. Trumpy's weird "I love loyalty!" statement has me really confused. Whereas last week? Not so much.
I didn't have a problem with Blond Jen's demonstration of the Heart Monitor. She was pretty covered up, (she had on full-length pants!) and, even while on the floor doing push-ups, her boobs weren't flopping around in plain sight. Besides, I think her very modest (IMO) flirting with that cute Grampa was just fine. "If my wife were here I'd get in trouble!" Awwwwww.... And, hey, if I were an 80-year-old woman, I know it would make me feel good to have a handsome young man pay attention to me. Hell...I'm a 42-y-o and it would make me feel good! (Eric Bana, are you listening?)
When The Hair told Blond Jen last night "you're not going to be fired tonight unless you say something really stupid in the next few minutes" ... anyone else waiting for a shot of Jen miming that "locking my lips and throwing away the key" motion? Anyone...? Bueller?
I didn't have a problem with Blond Jen's demonstration of the Heart Monitor. She was pretty covered up, (she had on full-length pants!) and, even while on the floor doing push-ups, her boobs weren't flopping around in plain sight. Besides, I think her very modest (IMO) flirting with that cute Grampa was just fine. "If my wife were here I'd get in trouble!" Awwwwww.... And, hey, if I were an 80-year-old woman, I know it would make me feel good to have a handsome young man pay attention to me. Hell...I'm a 42-y-o and it would make me feel good! (Eric Bana, are you listening?)
When The Hair told Blond Jen last night "you're not going to be fired tonight unless you say something really stupid in the next few minutes" ... anyone else waiting for a shot of Jen miming that "locking my lips and throwing away the key" motion? Anyone...? Bueller?
Jen W. was so fundamentally weak that she fell apart when called out in the Boardroom about her failure. She didn't try and come up with a decent defense, she just cried to the blondes and got them to gang up on Toral. Then on top of that she whimpered about her grandmother when being questioned by Trump? Please. Toral is insufferable and she'll be dealt with soon. Rebecca wasn't a good PM but she's decent raw material once she gets over her diploma. Jen just sucked.
I can't believe that Rebecca after doing a bad job as PM, after leaving Toral after being told to bring Toral to the boardroom, after bringing undeserving Jen M. and referring to her integrity gets by with it after snapping at George! That was one of the worst things, and I've never seen Donald tolerate that before. She's so lucky that Jen W. was terrible at work and the boardroom, because Rebecca deserved getting fired three times over. I don't see much raw material unless she wants to apply for the job of drill instructor for a women's prison.
Watching the show makes me quite glad I'm not working in corporate America (in a mostly non-self-congratulatory way.) I can't say how representative the show is (it is reality TV, after all) but I find the whole atmosphere quite dehumanizing. Do these people even know why they want the things they say they want? What happened to lively intelligence (as opposed to craftiness and manipulation), humour, taking pleasure in something other than pissing on people? Yes, I know people tune in to see primal, bloody conflicts by the DNA driven (who said that earlier? good call); however, it's depressing how the competition is frequently so petty, empty and vile...not to mention the Grand Poobah with his supreme condescension towards the minions.
I don't see much raw material unless she wants to apply for the job of drill instructor for a women's prison.[/quote]
And that's the mentality you probably need to succeed while working for someone like Trump unless you want to be a sobbing wreck by lunchtime on your first day.
And that's the mentality you probably need to succeed while working for someone like Trump unless you want to be a sobbing wreck by lunchtime on your first day.
Watching the show makes me quite glad I'm not working in corporate America (in a mostly non-self-congratulatory way.) I can't say how representative the show is (it is reality TV, after all) but I find the whole atmosphere quite dehumanizing.[/quote]
It's not particularly representative of all of corporate America by any means. It takes the particular blend of people and attitudes seen in Bonfire of the Vanities and puts them on the screen. They're caricatures.
It's not particularly representative of all of corporate America by any means. It takes the particular blend of people and attitudes seen in Bonfire of the Vanities and puts them on the screen. They're caricatures.
Finally saw the episode. But first, I had to comment on this:
So I guess Rebecca = Ivette and Toral = Cappy? You know, that immediate, compulsive, obsessive love.[/quote]
Ouch. I not happy with either one of them, but Rebecca deserves better then to be compared to Ivette. And Toral defintley deserves better then to be compared to Cappy. But I did laugh at the comment.
Oh, Toral. I liked you at first because you seemed competent, you were Indian (since I'm part Indian, I wanted to root for her), and you were hot. She's still Indian and hot, but the competence is gone, and she's now a condesending bitch, who can't work a TV. I don't think she should have been fired over Jen W., but she really is screwed.
I defintley agreed with the firing. The planning was just horrible. Toral screwed up the HDTV, but Jenn messed everything up. She should have had some cheese. That would have gotten them a couple more points.
It did take guts what Rebecca did, but it still was kind of stupid. If she didn't want to bring Toral, at least don't bring in Jenn M. I'm sure one of the other blondes was worthless enough (maybe Kristi) to take in. And I think her cockiness will haunt her. If she ever got into the F2 with someone like Randal, she probably won't win. Trump will defintley take a humble Randal over a cocky Rebecca.
I'm glad that Randal won as PM, and was voted for exsemption. I hope he takes it all.
Impressive push-ups, Jenn M. Now, if you show that your more then just a pretty face with a hot bod, I might actually start to root for you.
It looked like Clay was close to get his ass kicked by George. That would have been awesome!
Ouch. I not happy with either one of them, but Rebecca deserves better then to be compared to Ivette. And Toral defintley deserves better then to be compared to Cappy. But I did laugh at the comment.
Oh, Toral. I liked you at first because you seemed competent, you were Indian (since I'm part Indian, I wanted to root for her), and you were hot. She's still Indian and hot, but the competence is gone, and she's now a condesending bitch, who can't work a TV. I don't think she should have been fired over Jen W., but she really is screwed.
I defintley agreed with the firing. The planning was just horrible. Toral screwed up the HDTV, but Jenn messed everything up. She should have had some cheese. That would have gotten them a couple more points.
It did take guts what Rebecca did, but it still was kind of stupid. If she didn't want to bring Toral, at least don't bring in Jenn M. I'm sure one of the other blondes was worthless enough (maybe Kristi) to take in. And I think her cockiness will haunt her. If she ever got into the F2 with someone like Randal, she probably won't win. Trump will defintley take a humble Randal over a cocky Rebecca.
I'm glad that Randal won as PM, and was voted for exsemption. I hope he takes it all.
Impressive push-ups, Jenn M. Now, if you show that your more then just a pretty face with a hot bod, I might actually start to root for you.
It looked like Clay was close to get his ass kicked by George. That would have been awesome!
So, what exactly did Toral need to teach the old people on the HDTV?
It's not like they're going to sitting around messing with the color-convergance, or playing with the settings.
Hell, how many older people are even going to have a huge HD like that?
Show them where the power button is, the channel/volume buttons, and the video button to change between inputs. It's not that hard.
The guys had the better aproach, with showing their group technology they may actualy encounter and use reguarly. Something like a TIVO would be right up an old person's ally and they're not all that hard to setup. Highlight the show you want to record and tell it to do so, simple.
The DigiCam wit the printer docking station is also probably something that an older person would use reguarly and is easy.
A freaking hear monitor?
Um, Jen? I don't exactly see alot of old people doing calastenics.
It's not like they're going to sitting around messing with the color-convergance, or playing with the settings.
Hell, how many older people are even going to have a huge HD like that?
Show them where the power button is, the channel/volume buttons, and the video button to change between inputs. It's not that hard.
The guys had the better aproach, with showing their group technology they may actualy encounter and use reguarly. Something like a TIVO would be right up an old person's ally and they're not all that hard to setup. Highlight the show you want to record and tell it to do so, simple.
The DigiCam wit the printer docking station is also probably something that an older person would use reguarly and is easy.
A freaking hear monitor?
Um, Jen? I don't exactly see alot of old people doing calastenics.
I personally believe Donald Trump should have called the person who made the cake and put "Tethno Expo" on it in huge letters, and promptly fired that person. I don't care who it was. [/quote]
He owns every bakery in NYC?
He owns every bakery in NYC?
Aw, don't take it like that. Real life isn't the Apprentice (thank God) and there are no Hair-Color Wars in real life (that I know of, anyway). I only meant these blondes and these brunettes. The blondes did say something about Toral that was like, "she's not one of us," didn't they? So if Toral and her BFF Rebecca saw where things were going and wanted to screw them right back, I see no problem with that, strategy-wise.
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This is my first ep of TA this season, so I have no prior experience with the candidates. That moment in Best Buy where the 2 (or three?) blondes were all, "She isn't jazzing me up. She's a damn leader. If she doesn't motivate me, I'm not doing shit" sent fiery hate raging through my veins. Maybe Rebecca overheard them or at least saw them banded together with their bitch-faces on?
Rebecca didn't particularly bother me. The sulky bitch-faces did, and I personally have a strong contrarian instinct that kicks in when I observe a group in ganging-up mode against someone (the "8-ball syndrome" if you will). From what I can tell, Barbi Jen seemed to be doing a good job at the Expo. So, I would guess it was a combination of loyalty and friendship with her girl-crush Toral, and pure adrenalin that caused Rebecca to call out Barbi Jen.
And while it was a risky call, this is ultimately a game, and I believe that Rebecca realizes that the Boardroom wins or loses you the game. Right or wrong, I think Rebecca truly did make her picks based on her long-term objectives. I also believe she will sacrifice Toral when necessary, without too much pain.
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BTW, Rebecca almost gained bonus points on Trump's charge of inflexibility. When she started all
*shocked* "Inflexible? I broke my foot and I'm in a cast" I thought she was going to continue with a snappy "My ankle is inflexible but the rest of me...very bendable!"
In fact, she stopped mid-way through her answer, and some part of me thinks she started it, self-edited, and ended up with an explanation that was lame (the irony!) instead of flippant (irony, too!).
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This is my first ep of TA this season, so I have no prior experience with the candidates. That moment in Best Buy where the 2 (or three?) blondes were all, "She isn't jazzing me up. She's a damn leader. If she doesn't motivate me, I'm not doing shit" sent fiery hate raging through my veins. Maybe Rebecca overheard them or at least saw them banded together with their bitch-faces on?
Rebecca didn't particularly bother me. The sulky bitch-faces did, and I personally have a strong contrarian instinct that kicks in when I observe a group in ganging-up mode against someone (the "8-ball syndrome" if you will). From what I can tell, Barbi Jen seemed to be doing a good job at the Expo. So, I would guess it was a combination of loyalty and friendship with her girl-crush Toral, and pure adrenalin that caused Rebecca to call out Barbi Jen.
And while it was a risky call, this is ultimately a game, and I believe that Rebecca realizes that the Boardroom wins or loses you the game. Right or wrong, I think Rebecca truly did make her picks based on her long-term objectives. I also believe she will sacrifice Toral when necessary, without too much pain.
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BTW, Rebecca almost gained bonus points on Trump's charge of inflexibility. When she started all
*shocked* "Inflexible? I broke my foot and I'm in a cast" I thought she was going to continue with a snappy "My ankle is inflexible but the rest of me...very bendable!"
In fact, she stopped mid-way through her answer, and some part of me thinks she started it, self-edited, and ended up with an explanation that was lame (the irony!) instead of flippant (irony, too!).
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