Okay, the guys sucked, but I actually had to
turn my face away from the television when the women lined up facing one another and busted out the "Passion! Beauty!" shit. Ohmygawd. I was so embarassed to have ovaries. That was Dove commercial chef-hat territory.
I really, really hate when reality shows follow people to funerals.[/quote]
Word and word. Tacky.
Sazzat
Sep 29, 2005 @ 9:03 pm
I enjoyed Lamborghini marketing guy's brevity.
Markus:"Blah blah blah blah, do you think you'd be interested in my slogan which happens also to be a whiskey slogan?"
Lamborghini guy: "No."
JuliaCarpenter
Sep 29, 2005 @ 9:04 pm
Y’all, a show of hands for those who didn’t think that the men would lose this task? As soon as…well, one of the non-descript meatheads blathered that the men would totally win because their penises granted them the special power to understand the intricacies of marketing a luxury vehicle, I knew they’d lose. After the second All Praise the Penis dumbfessional, I was like, “Dude. I’ve watched TV before—what, do y’all think I’m new??”[/quote]
Word.
I knew , I totally knew they would lose after I saw how cocky and overconfident they were, based only on the fact that they were men and of course men are better at anything dealing with cars than women, right?
WinkyDink
Sep 29, 2005 @ 9:04 pm
I do believe TD figured on Excel's victory---unless, of course, he actually thought women skating with hockey pros was better than, say, their getting Mikimoto pearls.
Markus is getting shafted. So others might not like him? What, this isn't really the-last-man-standing? It's a TEAM show now? HA!
Also, if these guys have been "dreaming of Lamborghinis" for so long, they NEVER would have shown one in that bilious green, whatever the slogan! And "italian intimidation"? Well, yeah, if you're driving a FERRARI and your name is Michael Schumacher! (Oh, okay, that was last year! Still!)
catbat
Sep 29, 2005 @ 9:05 pm
Looks like the guys learned two things from last season's car-theme-task: jack and squat.
CRFTony
Sep 29, 2005 @ 9:04 pm
I'm remembering why I dislike The Apprentice so much. It doesn't matter if you're a better candidate and one of your teammates is a total trainwreck, if you're the PM and you lose, you're still going home. This show isn't about finding the best Apprentice, it's about finding the most mediocre.
And how the hell did that girl break her ankle while wearing hockey skates? That's extremely hard to do as it's like having your entire foot/ankle encased in rock hard plastic. They must have given her oversized mens skates. She should sue because she would win.
Jodeci
Sep 29, 2005 @ 9:04 pm
Captain Snarky Word on the tackiness that was showing the funeral. I was cringing the whole time. Poor Randall. (But he looked way hot in that suit).
And double word jesus206 Texan accents are very annoying, Kirsti's even more so. Blech.
Quiddler
Sep 29, 2005 @ 9:05 pm
Gah! Chris, you moran! Trump was handing you your boardroom strategy on a silver platter, and you said, "no, thanks." It's even worse because Markus is such and idiot, and won't last much longer. ("People can't change." - D. Trump) and Chris does have so much more potential, but he decided it was better to get back at Markus than to listen to Trumpy.
Bye, Chris. Cya in the Loser Lodge.
PS Shut up, Kristi. That baby voice grates.
Stardancer2001
Sep 29, 2005 @ 9:05 pm
Kristi needs to STFU, for real. “Marchand needs to oversee us!” No, stupid. Marchand clearly trusted you and your team to do your job without having to babysit you. She couldn’t be in 2 places at once. At least the other women know a good PM when they see one. I want Kristi and her bitchface gone!
I was rooting for Excel at first. They seemed to have their idea together. But George was right; they became overconfident. Looking at the Lamborghini exec’s face told me they were going to lose. Chris was dumb to bring in Markus, even though he was a supreme pain in the ass. Chris just guaranteed that he would be fired. Didn’t he learn anything from last week? When Trump tells you outright to bring someone in and you don’t listen? “Mark’s mistake is my mistake”?!?!? Jeebus, Chris. Don’t let the doorknob hit you in the ass.
Playing hockey as a reward? Worst reward ever. Poor Rebecca! I hope she will be alright.
Word to the poster who said the girls looked like rejects from a Robert Palmer video! LOL!
Culturemaven
Sep 29, 2005 @ 9:05 pm
I totally agree, JuliaCarpenter. Markus is a terrible distraction, and it certainly looked like he was useless on the task, but those guys totally dismissed him from the beginning. When they were all "wooo"ing about the stupid car, they formed a circle and effectively cut him out entirely.
I wish these dumb guys would realize that just because they like driving fast cars doesn't mean that they know anything about how to market them. If only they could have seen Kendra kick ass on that Pontiac campaign last season. Poor dumb guys.
And Chris is an idiot. Trump told him not bring Markus back into the board room, but he tried to emulate Kristi, because he was so sure he had a Melissa on his hands. Dude, when Trump helpfully tells you what you should do, you should probably do it. They needed a solid reason why he didn't contribute beyond whining "He was haaaaaard to work with."
I forsee showdown between Kristi and Marshawn in the coming weeks.
ETA because I had a second though.
SeaBreeze341
Sep 29, 2005 @ 9:06 pm
Don't like Markus, but Chris had to go, and I agreed.
yadayada
Sep 29, 2005 @ 9:06 pm
NOOOO not the pretty!
Anyways, I think Chris tried to steal a play from the women's gamebook by bringing in only Markus and playing the "this team member is disruptive" card. He should have known that DT would not fire for the same reason two weeks in a row - ratings are YOOOGE factor in his decisions.
Another reason why Chris didn't bring Mark in was because he had nothing prepared against Mark. From the manner in which Chris speaks, you can tell that he is a guy who puts a lot of thought in his argument. I just don't think he was quick enough to change tactics and bring in Mark and Markus instead.
I have to ask though if DT and the production staff bought into the stereotype that the men would win this task cause it is all about cars or why else the hockey challenge where even the most athletic of all the women candidates admitted that she knew nothing about hockey. BUt then again, by just thinking this, I guess I too buy the stereotype.
Also why the heck would DT invite Linda Kaplan Thaler. I would think DT being the grandoise egomaniac would never let another reality tv show host on his show (Linda has her own show called Making it Big that airs on the LifeNetwork in Canada).
oldbabe
Sep 29, 2005 @ 9:07 pm
Will these people never learn? "I guarantee victory" - certain failure. Sheesh.
Another good firing. I loved how Trump smacked the table just before pointing the finger gun.
Jodeci
Sep 29, 2005 @ 9:06 pm
Was anyone else blinded by the whiteness that are Mark's teeth? Yikes. Ease up on the Crest Whitestrips, dude.
tracyKAY
Sep 29, 2005 @ 9:07 pm
First: Just a word....As long as there are millionaires, billionaires, and celebreties there will B/ ALWAYS/B be lamborghinis. Rebirth? Just stupid.
Second: Markus....STFU (although he was never so quiet as he was in the boardroom
Finally: NOW HERE'S YOUR CHANCE TO DO YOUR DANCE NOW DO THE HUMP. DO THE HUMP DO THE HUMMPTY HUMP DO THE HUMPTY HUMP.
LOL Couldn't resist.
TiffanyNichelle
Sep 29, 2005 @ 9:07 pm
I agree with the Chris firing. Markus is a disaster but Chris should have brought in Mark instead.
gastrolyor
Sep 29, 2005 @ 9:08 pm
I can't believe I'm saying this, but ... Mr Trump, you took the words right out of my mouth. All of them.
Boriscat
Sep 29, 2005 @ 9:07 pm
Didn't this happen last time? It was a car ad. The guys all thought they had it in the bag because they were...well.. guys. But, surprise surprise! The women won that one too.
And, darn it. When Marcus keeps his mouth shut he's kind of cute. In a dopey, dog-like way. But as soon as he opens his pie-hole it's all over. It's a shame.
GuyInGA
Sep 29, 2005 @ 9:07 pm
I didn't really like Capital Edge's ad because it was something I would see with a German car ad. All of them wearing similar clothing and acting slightly robotic just made me think of Kraftwerk. I was hoping they were going to start singing "Autobahn."
I really hated Chris (and the rest of the team's) football/frat guy handling of Markus. Part of being in the real world is you have to listen to people you may not like or agree with because they might be right. Yes, Markus is somewhat stupid and says dumb things; he probably doesn't really have any real world experience either. Shutting them off from the clique won't solve anything.
auntiemame
Sep 29, 2005 @ 9:09 pm
I call total sexism on the reward. I'm sorry, but playing hockey with the Islanders? There are
professional hockey players who would be bored shitless by the prospect. And I didn't really need to see Rebecca's corn-addled, grody feet. Pretty girl, beat-up feet.
I love how Trumpy’s Viceroys are just slashing and burning the foolishness. [/quote]
Well said, Captain Snarky. The low tolerance for bullshit during this whole show was absolutely inspiring.
I think this show was a brilliant example of how to spend political capital. Chris racked up a lot of political capital, but budgeted incorrectly and wasted it all --all -- on a showdown with Markus. There's a lot to be said for picking your spots.
Another problem with their stupid ad: why the hell did they drive the Lamborghini through the ghetto? Gawd, morons, at least pick a tony street. Park Avenue at dawn never fails.
Also, I love Alla beyond all reason. She's like some super-awesome, determined Alias-type heroine. And her pimptastic befurred, bequilted, bepinked outfit was ta diiiiieeeee faw. It was like, if Cleopatra Jones were a white girl, she would be Alla.
lauriecake
Sep 29, 2005 @ 9:09 pm
Chris basically shot himself in the foot. Trump basically told him that if he just brought in Markus and not Mark, then he'd be out the door for sure. Wrong, as usual.
Kristi just won't shut up, and it's getting on my nerves.
BibiBella
Sep 29, 2005 @ 9:09 pm
but I actually had to turn my face away from the television when the women lined up facing one another and busted out the "Passion! Beauty!" shit. Ohmygawd. I was so embarassed to have ovaries.[/quote]
Word. I felt like I was watching a sorority rush skit, waiting for them to break out in song.
charma
Sep 29, 2005 @ 9:09 pm
Chris. What an idiot. Trump was giving him the answer, leading him to what he wanted and he still failed to take the hint that would save himself. I actually agree with this firing.
MsZoid
Sep 29, 2005 @ 9:10 pm
Trump did everything short of a marching band to tell Chris that he would fire Mark, and would not fire Markus. For not picking up on those not so subtle clues? Chris deserved to be fired.
Plus, once again we are reminded that Penises mean squat in advertising, even if it is for a car.
lawyerlit
Sep 29, 2005 @ 9:10 pm
Did anyone else think that TPTB assumed the men would win also, what with the hockey reward and all?
Jeez, haven't they ever SEEN this show?
BibiBella
Sep 29, 2005 @ 9:10 pm
Texan accents are very annoying, Kirsti's even more so. Blech.[/quote]
jodeci, Kristi is from Georgia...
See My Halo
Sep 29, 2005 @ 9:11 pm
At least Markus had enough sense to STFU in the boardroom.
Does he remind anyone else of Ron Reagan? <crickets> Just me? Oh well.
lostcawz
Sep 29, 2005 @ 9:11 pm
No problem with the firing as Chris was essentially told by Trump that Marcus was safe and still brought only Marcus in to the BR. It's still a little to early to expect to ride a good track record through a single mistake.
My problem is George's questioning of Chris about marginilizing Marcus. Previously they've bitched that PMs didn't marginilize bad players, now he's raking Chris over the coals about doing just that. The hell? Keep some fucking consistancy is all I'm asking! Even Trump and Carolyn pulled the same crap. I was very disappointed in the Viceroys tonight.
lessa2010
Sep 29, 2005 @ 9:11 pm
So Marcus was right about one thing, the car being green and having a period instead of a question mark at the end did leave me feeling that the car was envious. So what, his idea was worse! He irritates me to no end, but Chris was the most responsible for the task and thus he needed to be fired.
The idea of the car tranforming was alright, but they didn't have the time to do it properly. The girls went with something simpler and won.
Poor Randal and poor family. At least it appears they stayed out of the church service, but still give the family some privacy. I felt badly for the guy without having to see him hold back tears because a camera was shoved in his face.
I love Alla(sp?). I don't really know why, I like her accent and I just want to see her stick around awhile.
LolaLilaLilly
Sep 29, 2005 @ 9:12 pm
Ahhhhh!!!!
My PVR cut off the last 5 minutes!
I missed the last board room scene/showdown between Markus and Chris!
Could anyone, knindly offer me a recap of what happened? I know Chris got the "cobra" fingers, but what all happened? I'm sure it was the stuff of legends.
Stupid Chris.
"I don't think it's a good idea (bringing Markus to the B/R)"
Moments later.
"Who you brining back with you?"
"I'd just like to bring back Markus."
What's with these people? When Kristi did it last week it was a calculated move, Melissa performed TERRIBLY and the rest of the team did great. But this week other people were more responsible for the failure.
Ugh.
Stupid Frat boys.
NotTheBox
Sep 29, 2005 @ 9:11 pm
I love that Trump doesn’t miss any opportunity to dis Omarosa. Heh.
Didn’t this look familiar? Car ad task, Team Penis is sure they’ve got it locked, only to get smoked by the women.
Marcus really just can’t shut up, can he? To blurt out his Smooth as Silk at the meeting. And directing traffic? He is the prime example of the old insult, “ask him what time it is and he’ll tell you how to build a clock.”
Kristi is bugging me. She’s not bad, but not half as good as she thinks she is.
I thought the guys’ video with the car morphing was a cool idea but the print ads were just horrible, and the whole thing was too wordy. The girls “do you need permission” was a great appeal to the testosterone level. Cheesy cheesy presentation with the boards though where they stood like black widow cheerleaders at a beat poetry reading.
Why is everybody so in love with Randal? I don’t think he’s sucked or anything but for god’s sake, to follow him to the funeral?? So far all I know about him is he has a beaky nose and seems well spoken. I guess they had to prove his decency, that he didn’t lie about his grandmother’s death ala Johnny Fairplay on Survivor. I could have lived without the funeral shots. Didn’t tell me anything new.
Chris was really an idiot, after Trump practically demanded he bring Mark in. Team Penis wasn’t even creative enough to come up with their own strategy of ousting the disruptive force. He should have told him about Marcus doing exactly what he was instructed not to from the outset and played up the disloyalty, which even Trump didn’t like, at the presentation. Should have also pointed out that PMs are always asked why they didn’t marginalize a disruptive force- this time he did, and was scolded for it. Wouldn’t have helped probably since Marcus WASN’T the reason for the loss, but it was the only points he was going to score at that point.
Trump and the Viceroys were all great tonight. Good show!
Edited because boards are not boars, though a presentation with boars might have been cool.
tiggeril
Sep 29, 2005 @ 9:11 pm
KRISTI. SHUT IT. SHUT. IT. Ugggggh. She's way too weak to be snotting about the PM not getting her "feet wet."
Okay, the guys sucked, but I actually had to turn my face away from the television when the women lined up facing one another and busted out the "Passion! Beauty!" shit. Ohmygawd. I was so embarassed to have ovaries. That was Dove commercial chef-hat territory.[/quote]
Seriously. The ad wasn't terrible, but the presentation made me squirm. But not as much as Excel's yammering about water being life. What, are you Probst all of a sudden?
Go George! Go George! Go! Go! Go George! What a great Boardroom. Trump finally got his shit together for one brief, shining moment. We also got to see the Viceroys lay the smackdown, for once. Wonderful.
On a superficial note, what was with Lamborghini guy's tie? It looked like somebody puked up a bowl of pumpkin soup on him.
Jodeci
Sep 29, 2005 @ 9:12 pm
Bibibella Really? Whoops, my bad. I could've sworn I read somewhere that she was from Texas...must be the nasal tone, then.
foultemptress
Sep 29, 2005 @ 9:12 pm
I think I drowned in Chris's metaphor avalanche. If he had just taken deserving people to the boardroom he probably would've been safe. Idiot. I feel sorry for Markus and I almost want to root for him because the frat boys have decided that he's the geek they don't like. Yes, he talks too much, but that's not a sin.
And if Rebecca goes home because she broke her ankle, then she doesn't deserve to be there. Get around on crutches and DEAL with it. I've been there, life goes on.
ETA:
Did anyone else think that TPTB assumed the men would win also, what with the hockey reward and all? [/quote]
Definitely.
CarolTx
Sep 29, 2005 @ 9:14 pm
Watching Markus walk back from the boardroom to the suite, I couldn't help thinking of that old children's song:
"Nobody loves me, everybody hates me
I'm gonna eat some worms...."
(Should be an interesting reunion back upstairs)
JuliaCarpenter
Sep 29, 2005 @ 9:14 pm
Call me crazy, but IMO Marcus isn't the disaster everyone seems to think he is...All I see is a goofy-looking guy who talks a lot ...what's so horrible about it?
And it doesn't help that the producers used silly background music and special effects to tell us what to feel about him "See? He is boring!! See how much he talks! Listen to the goofy circus music as he talks and talks and talks"
He isn't perfect and he did have a ridiculous idea (Smooth as silk), but his attitude, though hardly proffesional, is clearly an instinctive responce to the meatheads' obvious disdain towards him...it's like being in high school...you don't look like us, so therefore you are a weirdo, dude! Why, he didn't even have a chance to screw up before the tools rallied against him from the beggining.
Whatever.
I love George and Carolyn more and more every week!
Kristy...STFU!
auntiemame
Sep 29, 2005 @ 9:14 pm
Lamborghini Guy looked like a major asshole, like the living corporate embodiment of Dieter from Shprockets....the whole time I was looking at him, I was picturing Mike Myers doing a skit of his mannerisms, especially the pinched Germanic bitchface.
Kristi's voice sounds like strangled mice and I find her impossible to watch. What is wrong with her face? It's all askew or evil or something.
Also, anyone think the guys turned on Markus because they saw how successfully the women got Melissa fired for being "a disruptive influence" the previous week?
The thing about the guys turning on Markus -- yeah, they're assholes, but you can't really blame them. They follow their leader, and Alpha Male Trump took aim at Markus last week. His snotty comments to Markus back then basically sent the message to everyone that it was okay---it was like declaring open season on deer (Markus) and anyone who didn't shoot his gun was a wuss.
mbridgii
Sep 29, 2005 @ 9:15 pm
I think Chris thought that, because Kristi was able to pull off that "only bring in one candidate" strategy to get rid of Melissa last week, he could do likewise. I knew Trump was going to get him for that. He practically pointed at the other guy and said "bring him in". But nooooo, Chris has to stand up for his fellow he-man. So now he gets into the Cab of Shame.
Markus will not win. I'm sure he is a smart man, but he is not a leader. He reminds me of that Danny guy from last year (or the year before, whatever - the guy who was just on "Queer Eye"). He can't motivate, he can't communicate, and he is a pathetic brown-noser. Plus, he doesn't know when to shut up. Don't these people watch the show? Don't be all "See, I was right" in front of the client; Trump hates that.
Kristi? That voice, my gawd. I'm from down south, but that was just too too much to take. If she was the one who voiced dissent with giving the PM immunity, I will agree on that point. The PM did nothing, in my opinion. So little that I do not know her name.
Trump: Good move last week, offering the copter to Randal to get to the funeral.
Burnett: Bad move this week, with the cameras at the funeral. What was with that? Just tacky.
tiggeril
Sep 29, 2005 @ 9:15 pm
I think I drowned in Chris's metaphor avalanche.[/quote]
He made a football metaphor and repeatedly used "synergy" without irony. Dude had to GO.
juiceman
Sep 29, 2005 @ 9:16 pm
Watching Markus walk back from the boardroom to the suite, I couldn't help thinking of that old children's song:
"Nobody loves me, everybody hates me
I'm gonna eat some worms...."
(Should be an interesting reunion back upstairs) [/quote]
If you noticed, there was no cheering at the end when he entered the suite, unlike when Kristi returned last week.
yadayada
Sep 29, 2005 @ 9:15 pm
but I actually had to turn my face away from the television when the women lined up facing one another and busted out the "Passion! Beauty!" shit. Ohmygawd. I was so embarassed to have ovaries. [/quote]
Word. I felt like I was watching a sorority rush skit, waiting for them to break out in song. [/quote]
WORD. When will these girls realize there are show and tell presentations and there are those you do in the corporate world that doesn't involve gimmicks but rather rational conversation. BLECH!
lostcawz:
My problem is George's questioning of Chris about marginilizing Marcus. Previously they've bitched that PMs didn't marginilize bad players, now he's raking Chris over the coals about doing just that. The hell? Keep some fucking consistancy is all I'm asking! Even Trump and Carolyn pulled the same crap. I was very disappointed in the Viceroys tonight. [/quote]
IIRC in past seasons, George has asked why they didn't marginalize team members when they have proven to be disruptive whereas in this case, Chris marginalized Markus before even giving him a shot to be absolutely disruptive like Melissa was. Unfortunately for Chris, in this instance, Markus turned out to have some good ideas among the million other comments he made over the task and shouldn't have been marginalized.
Rosalyn578
Sep 29, 2005 @ 9:15 pm
He should have known that DT would not fire for the same reason two weeks in a row - ratings are YOOOGE factor in his decisions.[/quote]
It’s not exactly the same reason. The women were able to make a clear case that Melissa’s nonsense directly affected the results on the task. (Plus there was probably a good chance Kristi would have been fired if Melissa hadn't made a complete fool of herself.) Markus’ behavior, while annoying, wasn’t the problem.
Didn't this happen last time? It was a car ad. The guys all thought they had it in the bag because they were...well.. guys. But, surprise surprise! The women won that one too.[/quote]
Actually, the woman won that one. Her teammates were asleep, remember?
Kazoo Zak
Sep 29, 2005 @ 9:17 pm
If Chris can't take the sort of hints given in a corporate environment as to what to do next, no way he'll ever be in a position to give them out consistently.
Good for Markus that he finally managed to keep quiet, sort of, well--when it appeared he minght be in real trouble. Although I'd have liked to see him called out on saying "yeah" after one of Trump's points against Chris/Mark. This show is getting pretty worth watching again.
edited to add when Markus got relatively quiet.
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