I don't know what to think of this show. I am disturbed by how pissed I was at Hef for not putting his girlfriends in Playboy before this. At first, I thought they were cool (except for Bridgett) with not being in the magazine, but after seeing their total happiness after he told them they were going to do a pictorial spread with the chance of a cover, I realized that they all wanted to be seen as being "good enough" for Playboy. Bridgett's tears and disbelief, Holly's feelings of validation and Kendra's excitement, really made me dislike Hef for "denying" them for so long. Hef probably has some major issues where his girlfriends are concerned and one way to exert his control over them is to deny them the chance to be in Playboy. I mean, the girlfriends weren't the most beautiful ladies in the world, but none of them would disgrace the magazine. What a jerk!

I also like Kendra the best- I think she's pretty, she just needs to do something different with her hair.

I love how Holly likes to make numerous remarks about her and Hef in the sack. Sure honey, sure.

Seriously, does anybody know why? I missed this.


I'm sure every single one of them thinks she's going to be the next Pam Anderson -why else would they sit at a restaurant, balancing spoons on their noses, laughing like it's hysterical fun, all the while trying to seem alluring to a nasty old man so that he'll photograph them naked, and with any luck sleep with them?

I realize that's a long sentence, but I just wish these girls would take a good, long look at themselves and then run away screaming from that place.

Just saw the two first eps. First off, I can't believe I wasted an hour of my time on that when I could have been catching up on threads here. Because that show is totally boring and I don't understand the point of it at all. Up until recently, I was a super reality show whore and watched almost all of them, but there are so many now that I have started asking "why?" with a lot of the new shows.


That is really freaky. I remember Loni Anderson said she would wake up long before Burt Reynolds did so she could do her hair and makeup, so I assume she slept with a full face too. It just really grosses me out. I did notice Holly sleeping next to Hef with what looked like fake lashes on. I guess since she does nothing all day, she doesn't get sweaty and her makeup stays somewhat fresh. And wait---was Carmen Electra a "girlfriend" for a time too? Why would he make them sleep with their makeup on if he's not even around them? I guess they have to follow all his freak rules 24/7 while they are at the house.

Yes, it does crack me up that Holly claims that they are in love and they have sex. Holly comes across to me as an empty shell. She just seems so unhappy. I have to wonder about her just being so content to be with this 80 year old man who I highly doubt she has a truly intimate(and not just physically intimate) relationship with. I wonder what issues she has. She comes off so robotic. I think Holly needs to give up on Hef and go find some 30-something doctor to be a trophy wife to. At least she'd get some kids out of the deal. She started to grate with the whole "mommy" thing. I know people refer to themselves as parents to their pets, nothing wrong with that, but the babyish voice she had was the annoying part. Plus I think she takes her mommying role with her dogs waaaaaaaay too seriously---like that's the only thing going for her in her life, which seems pretty accurate.

So I'm the only one that though Kendra was totally softening that new girl up so she could take advantage of her sexually? I also found it slightly hilarious the way she yelled at Hef when talking to him like the great-grandpa he is.

For Prince, not Hef. Hef likes the blondes.

This passage from Mimsy61's link explains a lot about Holly

I thought she seemed awfully panicky about Kendra not towing the line and Hef getting mad at her. I definitely get the empty shell vibe. She reminds me of those women in polygamist marriages who become traffic controllers and wardens for their husbands, rather than wives.

I'm guessing here -
He's dated Playmates in the past when he was younger, but most Playmates can go out and hook themselves a young rock star or actor. The only link these current women have to fame is through Hef and their role in his harem. When he passes away there are gonna be so many tell-all books about life in the Mansion

I watched this show tonight by "accident" while I was flipping through channels. A few comments:

Holly - Sorry to be gross, but does she pee all around Hef's bed as a way to mark her territory? It seemed like every other interview clip had some kind of remark about how she was Hef's #1 girlfriend, how she was the #1 girl, how she had the best relationship with him... it's was all me, me, me, I'm the best, Holly + Hef = True Luv 4-Eva, he likes me better than anyone else in his entire life and the whole wide world infinity plus plus! Jeez, we get it, lady. And frankly, it's not something to be that proud of. Also, I was shocked to read in this thread that she's only 25. She's a year younger than me? No freakin' way. She looks at least 32 (and I'm being kind there). Plus, now that I think about it, she kind of reminds me of Darva "Who Wants to Marry a Millionaire" Conger.

Bridget - Seemed kind of a sad case to me, and I was surprised that Hef had someone her age as one of his girlfriends. I guess I would have thought 26-28 would be his cut-off point. At least she's getting her "dream" of being in the magazine, though. (Well, if that did/does pan out.) While she's less cookie-cutter-esque looking as far as the "blonde bombshells" go, I think she totally could have been in the magazine because they do airbrush the hell out of them, so she could have looked like that, too. I do like the fact that she's going to school and has so many degrees going for her. At least she has proof of having a brain.

Kendra - Word to the poster who mentioned that she reminded them of Jenna Jameson. Everytime I saw her on screen, I totally couldn't stop thinking that she was the rip-off/poorman's Jenna Jameson. She could definitely pass as her little sister. Other than that, she was young, airheaded, and seemed easy-going/laidback. I was surprised she was one of Hef's girlfriends because she's so young and so party-girlish. I can't see what he would see in her past her looks. I mean, what in the world could they possibly have in common? At least with Holly and Bridget, they could probably hold a decent intellectual conversation with Hef. Kendra? Not so much. So, if looks is the only thing that got her into Hef's pants, then he could've easily picked out another one of those cookie-cutter blondes who had a better hair/dye job. Her hair just hurt me looking at it. (Word to whomever commented about the carpet in her bedroom looking like shit. When she was putting on her high heeled shoes, I immediately thought, "Damn, doesn't anyone ever vacuum in there?" There were so many huge carpet nubs or whatever you want to call them. It almost looked rougher than her and Holly.)

Other stuff - Was it just me or did anyone else think that the office that Hef's secretary worked in was bordering on employee abuse? I mean, it looked like the poor old lady was shoved into a closet with crap piled high all around her. Were there even any windows in that office? And just what she needed - for Holly (I think it was her) to come in with the dogs and walk around on the desk. The little yippy dog probably peed all over it.

One possibly TMI question - So many posters throughout this thread have commented that they doubt Hef has sex with any of them (well, maybe with Holly). So, do you think that one of the rules to being his girlfriend is that they have to have sex with each other in front of him? I can't see any of these three girls being into that (save maybe Kendra because she's at that prime "Girls Gone Wild" party age who would kiss another girl just to turn on guys). Just wondering.

This is certainly not riveting reality television by any stretch of the imagination, but I think I might watch it again if I happen to catch it just out of morbid curiosity.

P.S. I cannot believe I just wrote a novel-length post about a reality show about Hugh Hefner and his "whores." Ugh.

I really hope all these women are lying about their ages. They just look so rough! I found it really funny when Bridget talked about getting the "testing" women drunk so they'd look like shit for their photo shoots the next day, but both women looked amazing, especially the non-blonde. So much for your evil scheme Bridget.

So true. I couldn't get over how bad these women look without make-up. And with make-up, they just look like generic Barbie dolls.

Like that conversation in the limo about "knowing yourself"? Seriously, they all seem kind of nice to me, but very, very dim along with sad and pathetic. I just don't see how rattling around in that mansion with that trilobyte is tolerable.

That was creepy. And also the part at the end where he called them into his room, and they were all convinced they were in trouble. They are clearly nothing more than employees who are treated like children. It creeped me out when Holly was talking about her role on the red carpet as being to smile and not say anything or do anything stupid.

And what was up with The Cryptkeeper's behavior at the restaurant. He goes out to an expensive restaurant, brings his own food along with directions on how to cook it, and then whines when they don't make it fast enough? Why go out if you prefer what you have at home? Weird.

True. But I was struggling to keep the three of them straight. Six cookie-cutter blones would have made my head explode.

Obviously the camera crew and editors thought the cat was more interesting than her, because it got more screen time. And it definitely was a welcome breath of fresh air from all those yappy dogs. I couldn't tolerate that for a second.

There was an expose on VH1, I believe, called something like "Centerfold Babylon." It was pretty good. They interviewed alot of past centerfolds who talked about how disillusioning it was to think appearing in the magazine would launch a career for them, how they would be star for a month, but then the next month, they would be cast aside. Some turned to porn, and this made Hef very, very angry.

I have read several blind items in gossip columns that seem to imply that Hef's "Chick magnet, having sex with all the blonds all the time" image is bullshit, and that most of his sexual activity is, ummm, by himself, after watching gay porn. Part of the girl's "job" is to make people believe he is having lots of sex with them, but in reality? Not so much.

Well, I never thought they could hold a MENSA-level conversation with him, but certainly a more intellectual one than a "Oh, my God, like, I totally just gave a massage to this icky, sweaty, fat bald guy and, like, all he did was stare at my massive, fake ta-tas, and, like, I'm sooo gah-rossed out! Heehee! Wanna come jump on the trampoline with me?" type of conversation that only Kendra could manage. ;)

I keep thinking about how run down the mansion was and how gouche it was for the two auditioning playmates to have to share a nasty pink guest room rather than be out up in a decent hotel. It made me think about some advice I would like to pass on to younger female readers of this forum. This advice has served me well in life:

If you are going to show your "kitty" to someone and they are to cheap to spring for a nice hotel room you might want to rethink your decision.

And no, Ladies, Red Roof Inn, Motel 6, nor a twin bed at the Playboy mansion count. You'll live to regret those times. Hold out for a Marriott.

ETA: WORD, AliLou!!! Bridget trying to mess up the auditions by tricking the new girls was brilliantly funny!!! If that had been my Playmate audition, I would have been in bed by 9 pm!

I watched about 15 minutes and I like that Bridget girl. She was all about ruining everyones chances of getting in the magazine. Plus she semed like she could bring the snark.
The other two were just boring.

I don't know, I got a "street" vibe from her (no pun intended LOL)...but she seemed to be the most down to earth....she just needs to swtich that hair to a suttle soft brown...

OH HELL TO THE NAW!!!!


this is coochie we are talking about, don't give it away....hold out for for The Plaza or the Waldorf Towers...some shit you can't find in every city...not no damn Marriott...you done told on yourself now!!

If Gwen Stefani is ever kidnapped, we'll know to check Hef's basement first.

Hey, Holly? It's not gonna happen. You need to have a nice long chat with Brande Roderick about being Hef's #1 girl. I'm sure she could hook you up with The Surreal Life people. Better yet, find out where Vince Neil hangs out (when he's not at your pool), he should be due for another wife around 2008-09.

I was surprised to see brunette auxillary (sp?) girlfriends at the George Lucas tribute, I guess Hef is expanding his horizons.

Kelly Monaco, Donna D'Errico and Jenny McCarthy are the exceptions of doing something with the whole playmate thing. They also seem to be the only ones with brains. I don't understand why Bridgett doesn't get a PR or media job and hightail it out of that nasty mansion. At least she's got an education and will not be forced to become a stripper or porn star after Hef tires of her. Is Hef paying for her education?

Here's a quote from Donna about Hef's 'girlfriends':
Interviewer: What do you think about Hef and his harem of young blonde chicks?
Donna: "I personally think that he does not do them. I think that they do each other and he watches. But maybe I'm wrong...maybe that Viagra is the shit!"

I think Carmen was a Playboy model, but never a Playmate.

Also, what determines who can live in the mansion? I assumed that one had to be a Playmate to live there.

I think that this is because for all her smarts she doesn't have a lick of self esteem. She still buys into the myth that she is not worthy if she doesn't fit the male image of a perfect female -- which is defined by Hef (and Madison Avenue) as the Playmate.

Here is my amateur theory about Bridgette: she was a late bloomer who grew into her looks as she got older -- so she is insecure about being attractive, even though she is. Her father never told her she was pretty or complemented her so she always sought/seeks validation from men/boys in outside relationships.

[looking down, ashamed] CrazyMacy, I don't think Marriott is so bad. I've stayed in some nice Marriotts. If I held out for the Waldorf, I'd be a 37 year old virgin.

I'd say your last sentence may explain it. I think Bridgett is actually showing her smarts here. She gets to play Barbie all day while Hef pays for her school and upkeep while she's in school. Working and going to school can be a struggle. She's found a loop hole. And if she isn't being required to sleep with him or the other girls.....then she's genius!!

I think Bridget was the one who pointed out that Holly is the one who deals with Hef the most because she shares that suite with him. From the way she said this, it sounded like she didn't envy Holly being around Hef all the time, which says to me that Bridget knows she's got it pretty easy - smile nice for the cameras and go out on Thursday nights in exchange for room, board, ordering food, and going to school. I really hated her pink room with the Hello Kitty crap though.

Holly is the one who deals with Hef's bad moods (Kendra is late, my food is taking too long, etc). In that sense, she seems like she is the younger version of Hef's assistant, except she doesn't have to work in that dark closet. I did laugh when the real assistant was feeling for the dog's testicles. Lord, the stories I bet that woman could tell!

Word to the poster who said that Holly seems like one of the cult wives who helps keep her polygamist husband's multiple wives in line.



Mr. EB's responded to this question with another question: "Have you ever been to Lodi?" Once when some telemarketer called to tell him that he'd "won" a trip to Carson City, he posed a similar question. Hee!

That's true, but I would think that having "Hugh Hefner's 'girlfriend'" on your resume and having a photo on the magazine cover would limit her future career opportunities and her ability to be taken seriously. Or maybe LA is a really different kind of place than I'm used to. It seemed like she doesn't have to show the new girls around; she does seem to get off easy. But yet she's still there after getting her MA, just in some desperate hope that she'll get in the magazine. I think it's a combination of taking advantage of an opportunity and her bizarro fixation with getting in the magazine to prove to herself that she's beautiful. I agree that's she gots some really severe self-esteem issues. I'd love to hear more of her background.

And with her two degrees on the pink walls among the Hello Kitty crap. Hee.

I'm guessing that's true of all the staff. That dude in the kitchen who was feeding the dogs seems like he'd be a hoot to have a drink with and hear some stories.

That sorta cracked me up. Kendra (is that her name? I can't tell any of these indistiguishable tramps apart.) was bragging about being a "tomboy", yet they had her playing basketball in the most stereotypically "girlish" way possible, complete with the-shooting-hoops-by-throwing-the-ball-between-your-legs pose (but then again, I'm sure she's used to having balls between her legs.)

There "relationship" seriously seem more like grandpa watching over his slilicone triplets then any type of "girlfriend" relationship. I mean they were treated more like spoiled little girls then adult women. I can assume that these chicks probably aren't feminist or anything, but you'd think even their pea brains would recognize there is something creepily wrong in that "relationship." Especially during that whole "Uh oh, are we in trouble" bit. And yes, I do agree with the person who said using the centerfolds as some type of "carrot" to dangle in their faces does seem kinda cold (although any woman pathetic enough to see that as some sort of grand "prize" doesn't really deserve sympathy. Especially the sad fucked-up one who supposedly wanted to do this since she was five That's horrifying, people!).

Indeed, the one who reputation is being damaged by the show the most is Hef. I mean I never really liked him, and I always thought that he was just some dirty old man, but when I was younger I always assumed that women liked him (outside of gold-digging reasons) because he was charming and debonaire. Yet he really doesn't seem to be much fun to be around. I mean his rants at dinner reminded me of the same crusty, cranky, crotchety old farts we get at the department store I work at. You know the "Grandpa Simpson" types who do nothing but complain and fuss? Instead of some hot stud (rolleyes) escorting a bevy of hot babes like some type of seasoned pimp (and no, Bimbo #3, that's NOT a "good thing"), it comes across as a bunch of put-upon women taking their senile gramps for a day away from the rest home. And if he isn't banging at least one of those skanks, then he's just as dumb as they are.

Also, why are they not concerned that they are, in fact, one-of-three girlfriends? When wondering if your boyfriend is mad at you, you should never hear the words "Are WE in trouble?" coming out of your own mouth.

Hee! Exactly. It's actually very pathetic that these people don't know they're a joke.

I always thought he was a bit skeevy, but when he divorced the last wife and started with the multiple "girlfriends," I think he pretty much became a joke. I can't believe they still get invited to events like the Lucas thing.

So true. And they way they all sit there together in a row, no doubt roped off from the rest of the patrons, like some kind of public spectacle seems to me like the opposite of fun. They're just a freakshow for people to gawk at.

I would love to hear Hef's kids' takes on the girlfriends -- especially his daughters.

Quick slightly off-topic question - Is there something odd/strange/snarkworthy about Lodi, CA? I ask not only because I'm curious, but I have a psycho ex who hastily married a chick from that town, so maybe it would explain a psycho attraction? Heh.

She wouldnt have to list being Hef's "girlfriend" on her resume - its just time she went to school. I dont list any of the jobs I had when I went to college because they are irrelevant to my career. And I work for a pretty big somewhat conservative International company (US headquarters is on the East Coast) and no one cares that we have had several girls on the Bachelor and at least one Survivor. We all make fun of them when they are on and it passes with the show. As many employees as we have, I am sure there are a former playmate or two in there someplace. She may have a problem getting in with a small company, but things like that are not as much of a problem with larger companies.



I think thats what creeps me out the most. He doesnt seem to have any real romantic interest in any of these women. They are his little dolls that he pulls out for parties.

Just re-watched the first two eps from start to finish last night and I have two observations:
1) Holly looks possessed
2) NINE DOGS running wild will turn your house into a shithole pretty quickly

Also, anybody know how old Bridget is? She looks like she's got a good 10-15 years on those two young girls who were trying out for the magazine. Of course they looked like they were 16.

IIRC Bridget is 31. Holly IS possessed. Or her eyes are like that from surgeries she's had so she can claim to be only 25.

Christie (one of his daughters) probably loves it. As CEO of Playboy Enterprises, this just helps drive the business.

I have a friend who visited the Mansion several times back in the '70s and early '80s (he's a cousin of one of Hef's long-time cronies) and then went back again last year. He says that as the Playboy empire has dwindled and Hef has become increasing out of touch with the world, the place has really gone downhill. It's much shabbier than it used to be and the staff has been downsized. There used to be an army of sevants/flunkies to park cars, fetch drinks and cater to the guests' every wish. Now, not so much.

But the interesting thing is that he says that even back in its heyday, the place was very dull. It wasn't the nonstop carnival of debauchery and hedonism that Hef likes to portray. Instead the atmosphere was depressingly middle-class and there was very little actual sex going on, either in the public areas like the game room or the "grotto" jacuzzi or behind closed doors. The guests (mostly football players and B-list actors) would do a lot of smirking, make a lot of sexual innuendos and leer at the scantily clad bimbos, but hardly anybody ever got laid. As he put it "If you really wanted an orgy, there were dozens of places in LA that made the Mansion look like Disneyland. In fact, that's what it was, a Disneyland for aging frat boys. Really boring and kind of sad."

What we've seen on this show so far would seem to bear him out.

I don't know, I kind of like the show.

I think Kendra is probably the UGLIEST woman I've ever seen that tried to pass for beautiful. Ew! *Edited to add that her hair is so gross and her laugh makes me crazy*

Holly seems to really be in love with Hef. It's weird how she knows her only purpose is to be quiet and not get into trouble.

Bridget is SO BEAUTIFUL (and I luuuuurve her cat). I don't know about the other two but this girl ain't dumb... she has two degrees when she could be sitting around all day.

OK, did Kendra say in the first episode that aside from Hugh Hefner and her immediate family, her dogs were also her heroes? Just checking. WTF!

Bridget is pathetic. I don't think she has a master plan; I also don't think she's smart or cunning for "using" Hef to pay for school. She's basically an indentured servant begging to pose nude for all the world to see. BEGGING to show her slowly but surely aging landing strip. It should not be a small child's dream to pose in a sex mag, no matter how relatively tame said mag is. That's depressing and bizarre. (I love Bridget's cat, though, and how she called her "brat." That's what I call one of my cats all the time.)

Oh, and yeah, the Italian/Filipina wannabe was gorgeous. I thought the other blonde was boring--Dalene Curtis did that look better back in 2001.

I have heard and read similar sentiments that the mansion is pretty tame and boring. One ex-playmate, Jill Ann Spaudling, wrote a very interesting book (I'll try to find a link-nvm another poster linked it on the previous page) about Hef and his homosexual desires, which I found particularly interesting. She also said that Hef makes his "girlfriends" do whatever he says, and they do, because they are very much desperate to remain a part of the Playboy empire. I once heard someone say, I'd like to say Fred Durst, that "whatever happens in the grotto stays in the grotto" and I've heard many laugh such suggestions off, claiming nothing truly happened in the "grotto"- just a bunch of half naked girls floating with the help of their implants.

I watched the Cribs episode which featured the Playboy Mansion and it seemed ridiculously boring and depressing aside from a mimi-zoo.

No offense to any playmates, but just because Pamela Anderson, Carmen Electra, and Jenny McCarthey managed to swindle a career doesn't mean you can do the same. These are three women out of many, many other women who created their own career in the entertainment business, and even then they are considered "attractive and fun, but not talented or serious in the least".

What I found depressing about that episode was that it looked like one of women who was sort of milling around in background had a little girl with her who couldn't have been more than 7. And we wonder where childhood ambitions of being in Playboy come from? Stupid parents!

In other news, I saw Weezer's video for "Beverly Hills" again yesterday, and who was flanking Hef in the opening scene? Holly and Bridget.

Hef said his one desire was for one of the Playmates to win an Oscar. Marilyn Monroe still is the most famous one but she's been dead for 40 years and she's still famous. I don't think the acting of Shannon Tweed and Kelly Monaco will be hearing the Oscar goes to pretty soon.

I wonder if the ex wife and his sons will be in the show since they live next door. In her book, Jenny McCarthy wrote they were bratty and threw bacon at her during breakfast.

His mansion does look dated, like O.J. Simpson's old place. He must love the 70's but clutter isn't cool. He could greate a library to keep his old paper and stuff. The animals do look like they are well cared for, so that's a plus.

The place could desperately use a makeover to make it Y2K5 compatiable. Since he has no sick kids, I don't think ABC's Extreme Makeover is going to spring for it.

When shows film there, like Sex and the City, they usually just show the outside. After seeing the grubby carpet, I can see why.

I wouldn't say Kendra is beautiful, but I don't think she's ugly either....she's cute looking...

I thought the zoo was the most depressing part...how funny how two people get such different impressions. I felt so bad for the monkeys. The cages looked so small to me. And the monkey girl on the Cribs episode said that Hef promised to make her a mother....so what happened to her? I know they joked about the baby monkey being her kid...but I might be showing that tape to a lawyer if I were her (and I was a gold-digger).

I hope they use some of the money they get from this show for new carpeting for the mansion. Yuck. Maybe some cordless phones. Maybe some new paint. let's see -- pink was my favorite color until I was.....TWELVE and then I moved on. What is up with these women? Bridgette, you are in your 30's. You are going to start finding white pubic hair soon -- and I don't mean Hef's. Put down the Hello Kitty.

People keep talking about the first 2 episodes that were broadcast. Yet E is only showing 1 episode ("Meet the girls") during the reruns. Yahoo's online TV schedule says there are 2 episodes, 101 Meet The Girls, and 102 New Girls in Town, that are supposed to be rebroadcast throughout the week, for example 6-7pm today Thursday. But eonline.com's schedule says only 1 episode Meet the Girls is showing at 6pm and there's some lame "Hair Gone Bad" 30 minute show that's being broadcast at 6:30 instead of episode 2. Watching E yesterday, the 2 times Girls Next Door was to be rebroadcast, only the first episode was shown and some other unrelated 30 min show was shown right after that, why? Were there 2 episodes, or 1, what's going on?

There were two. I saw both of them, but at the time they were on, E! claimed to be showing two back-to-back episodes of Howard Stern. I even hit the "info" button on my remote, and it said Stern. I just concluded the people at E! are crackheads.

I wonder if they even redecorate for each girl. It seems like everytime we see the mansion it has those hideous pink bedrooms for the girls. Kendra probably secretly hates pink but knows she isnt allowed to complain.

I like pink, but her bedroom is more Barbie doll house than adult woman.

does anyone know how many women live at the house or is it just Hef and the three "girlfriends"? Also, can any woman who modeled for the mag move in? Just wondering about the living situation.

Hef seems like that crazy, crotchety grandpa who is going senile & is set in his ways.

Heh, it is funny. The fact that the place has a little zoo seemed so innocent and random, like I would never expect to see a zoo on the grounds just because it doesn't scream "style" or "expensive" to me. It probably is very expensive to maintain such a place, but it seemed so...child friendly.

I'm also curious about how many women actually live in the mansion. In the Cribs episode I saw many different women walking around, with 5-6 main ones, including the Monkey Girl.

At this point I think it's less of a mansion and more of a youth hostel. It seems like anyone with with a pair of breasts who doesn't mind sleeping on slighly dirty pink sheets can move in.

Thats exactly what my brother wrote in his personal ad.

wasn't Kim Basinger a Playmate or did she just strip for the mag? If she was, then there is Hef's Playmate Oscar. ;)

Kim just posed in the magazine but she wasn't a Playmate. Shannon Tweed is the modern Playmate with the most movie credits.

When you say about Bridget, "This girl ain't dumb...", you reveal that your grammar's as bad as hers is. Recall Bridget's monologue: "I think there are two main ADJECTIVES people think when they see us: BIMBO, and SLUT. [giggle, giggle!]". What mamby-pamby school issued her the two supposed degrees? And these degrees, obviously not from the English department: were they in BIMBOISM and WHOREDOM?

So, is there a difference between just appearing in the magazine and being a "Playmate"? I can sort of see the difference between being in the magazine and being a Centerfold (aren't the centerfolds the only ones up for "Playmate of the Year"?), but I am still confused. Is a celebrity who appears on the cover of the magazine (and inside naked) a Playmate? Like, is Farrah Fawcett a Playmate or just a cover girl or would she be considered a Centerfold? And do the girls who do pictorial spreads get to be called Playmates? Why do I even care?

I can see why Hef might not want to make his ladies centerfolds if there are only 12 a year, but why wouldn't he just put them in the magazine? Would this not be enough for Bridgett? Does she want to be a Centerfold/Playmate or will simply being in the magazine be enough to make her feel "beautiful"?

The centerfold is the one in the middle that folds out. I always assumed "Centerfold" was synonymous with "Playmate". Could be wrong though. I think the pseudo-celeb the appears on the cover and has a spread (rimshot!) can't claim "Playmate", but can claim "appeared in Playboy".

I guess by my definition, Bridgette still won't be a Playmate. Poor, sad, old Bridgette.

Yeah, we definitely need someone who can give us the entire hierarchy. I know there's playmate of the month, playmate of the year (I also though centerfold and playmate are the same thing), then there's the ones who just get in the magazine. Then I learned from a plastic surgery show on MTV that there are sort of second-tier editions: college girls, vixens, etc., women who don't get in the regular monthly magazine, but appear in special editions, which I understand isn't as prestigious. I wonder how many women are given extension photo shoots and then are rejected.

I thought they all seemed pretty happy with the consolation prize of appearing on the cover, which just made them more pathetic to me.