How tall is Kendra? for people in the know, or that looked at the website, I can't I only have computer at work.

I'm really curious, though I think Holly has the best body.

Yea, I was wondering about that. Does Dr. Phil know about the Dom triplets past??? He seems "so happy" about this engagement on air.

mayagirl thank you for uh.. explaining anal bleaching to me. I never knew there was such a thing. Besides waxing every hair off our bodies, we are now expected to have perfectly bleached assholes. Progress people, progress.

I had scary dreams all night after watching the Midsummers epi. I was friends with the girls and hung out with them. I can't believe that Hef actually has sex with all of them! For some reason I had convinced myself it was only Holly getting it on with the old gezer. YUCK! Even though Kendra is mildly annoying (the laugh) she is my favorite.

I realized a couple of shows ago who Kendra's laugh reminded me of - Mandark, from <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dexter's_Laboratory">Dexter's Laboratory</a>. "HAhaHaHAhahaha! "HAhaHaHAhahaha!"

(Apologies if anyone else mentioned this first; I searched and checked the last few pages and didn't see it.)

The 'no condoms' thing is making me feel all barfy, but thanks for the detailed inside info. No wonder he likes them young: less chance of disease.

What I'd like to know is, how does a breakup/firing go when a girlfriend is released back into the wild? Does a minion do it or what? I bet the security/staff can't keep their grins down as the girl is forced to relinquish car & house keys, cell phones, etc.

EEEEEEEEEEW no condoms?!?!?!



So what if one of them contracted HIV?! Talk about scandlous..I bet it wouldn't be much of one if it were simple chlomydia...but Herpes or HIV...lordy!

I really am shocked that he has sex with these girls. I thought he had them around to make him look good. But thanks for the insider info. Grossssss. I can't believe these girls would let that wrinkly old thing in them much less without a condom. Poor girls. I wonder what Hefs kids are like and if all this has a negitive affect on them.

Also I was skeeved out when girlfriend # 1 was on the banister naked and Hef gave her this goofy smile. It was like looking and a very inapropriate Grandfather. And I kept thinking that if she slides down that banister by accident it is gonna hurt.

Its funny how curious you guys are :). I will try to answer the questions asked. I dont know about Holly's real deal and maybe its just an act but I really think not. The girl is psycho, and you have to remember she entered the Playboy fold relatively early. While HH doesnt encourage her he doesnt exactly discourage her if you know what I mean. Deep down I think there are some deep seeded daddy issues and she is happy to just be kept around. Obv there are some self esteem issues too, and most of these girls dont come from rich backgrounds. I mean what girl that has a great family with cash is really going to be a low paid hooker no matter how glam it is? I am not sure about their background personally but I really think Holly firmly believes that she is going to be a Mrs. Heffner and somehow pay for invitro and have babies and inherit the place. Like an Anna Nicole Smith type deal l guess you would say? Again, most girls will go for successful guys but the ones that hit the 70 & 80 year old guys are usually the bottom feeders that come from poor backgrounds that are greatful for anything and will put up with a lot.
Its amazing to me personally how many people think that these girls especially are all innocent and clean! I guess I have just been around LA too long because almost everyone knew what the deal was.
Quite simply sex sells, and most girls are selling it. There was a biography written awhile ago that pretty much is accurate how the mansion really is. Wild sex parties with HH as the central guy and no condoms or anything. Everything is of course faked for his benefit, and the girls hate it like most women who sell sex.... anything goes and I really think a girl would get tossed on her ass for suggesting 'safe sex'.
For gods sake Mini-Me can get laid by girls in LA. There are numerous places that a guy can go and grab a model like its nothing.
If Dr. Phil doesnt know about the Dom triplets, hes living on another planet. HE KNOWS! Also, I dont think his marriage is exactly kosher either, in fact Id bet hes totally sleeping with escorts, as Robin probably wouldnt stand a public mistress.
I have been to places, and seen the most wholesome of TV/Movie figures think I was for sale and act as such. In fact, I thought once was a modeling deal turned out to be a highclass callgirl position. At first I didnt catch on, but eventually I got the message. Unfortunately, before I could express my disinterest, the madame had given my number to a few clients. People I saw on TV were calling me asking me to come over for a few hours! I kept lying and saying I was sick until they didnt call.
At first I was almost flattered in a way and wondering why the hell they were calling, then it got to be annoying and I would avoid their calls. People you see on TV ALL the time... acting this way. Its insane.
This is becoming a tell all novel, maybe I should start charging quarters... but short of naming any names (not because I want to protect anyone, just aprehensive that people will put 2 and 2 together) whatever you suspect to be happening is absolutely true.
Hollywood, rich men, people that are the most powerful in the world are about the most depraved sick fuckers out there. They screw everyone, snort everything, and toss money around in the name of fashion/cars/status. Its all pretty fake and messed up which is why everyone is in rehab, have psycs, and are totally screwed up all the time.
I can say with all honesty the reason that women like _____ are named the most beautiful in the world, are considered great actresses, keep getting movie roles despite their lack of talent ect. are total cases of casting couch actresses. If you ever sit there and wonder why this actress is even on tv, and how shitty she is let me tell you shes totally banged the right people in order to get there. The men are so arrogant they wont even pretend to cover it up. They basically say 'if you play your cards right... I will make you a star'. It is usually worth it to most girls, and once they get to a decent level they can stop and be rich famous and happy. So if you are considering getting in, or know someone who is just make sure they are oozing with talent otherwise they will end up on their backs for a bit quite honestly...

So, when the girls have sex with Hef, I wonder how they do it? Girls on top? Hef from behind? How long does the sex last? Are they making noise and yelling and putting on a show? Is there foreplay? Does Hef go downtown? I would demand that if I was forced to fuck a corpse.

Oh and also, Poison, you said that it is mandatory for them to fuck Hef once a week...what if they have their periods? Do they do it anyway or do they get a bye that week?

I was really shocked by the mom last night being all thrilled at seeing her teenage daughter made up and parading about in underwear at a party with women who are wearing nothing more than paint. Not to mention the world's oldest pervert checking her out. Maybe Hef would buy the mom something nice if he could bang her little girl, hell he's banging her other daughter what the hell.

Bwwaahhhhhhhhh!!! I choked on my water on that one.

RE Anastasia: Because it hurts like a Super-B.I.T.C.H. to get it taken off from the "special places" so if you don't have a damn good reason getting waxed there, it's best to leave it and not suffer needlessly. Also, it hurts more if you are not used to getting waxed down there -- Anastasia would have been in tears. Regular bikini waxing hurts badly enough as it is.

I think that's kinda harsh - lots of people get their pets clipped (yes, cats too - the cut Gizmo got was a "lion cut") because they have long hair that is hard to groom or because it is summer and too hot for long hair. There's nothing cruel about it, in fact I think it's a sign that Bridgette loves that cantankerous bastard! Gizmo really is almost too cranky to brush and probably doesn't do a good job grooming herself. Her facial expressions and growling were hysterical. The catshaving portion of the episode was the funniest thing I saw all day!

I thought the producers added in the cat growling to highlight the "drama" between Gizmo and the new puppy, but now I think Gizmo is just a pain in the ass. She's the best character on the show! lol

(Apologies to Gizmo if she's actually a he!)

PoisinIvy7, thanks again for all the dark, dirty, and disgusting little secrets of PB and the hollywood scene. Sorry to hear you almost got caught up in the web, props and respect for not choosing to lose your dignity and self respect. All this has me a little verklempt, a friend of mine working as a hooters waitress to get through college has been approached by someone working for PB in chicago and was considering posing. I'll definetly have her read your posts and convince (push/shove) to do otherwise. Girl you need to write a tell-all book I'll definetly be buying it.

cwih57, I guess if you must know her bio states that Kendra is 5'4".

I don't have any problem believing that at one time, Hef's girlfriends were obligated to screw him. However, I simply cannot imagine Hef fucking any of the women on this show. I know he must get it on with Holly but I can't picture it at all. He just seems like he wants to eat his ice cream and go to bed, not stay up three nights a week and bang some blondes.

I think Hef likes people to think he has sex all the time because he has a major reputation to keep up, but this show has convinced me that he doesn't have that much sex these days. He does seem to care about the girls (and he seems to love Bridget's pets! - he has more chemistry with Gizmo and Wednesday than he does with Kendra) but I just don't see him directing any sort of sexual feelings their way. He seems to view Bridget and Kendra as "kids" not as "girlfriends" or even "pieces of ass". I don't doubt that if Hef wanted to have sex with any of the girls, they would oblige and attempt to show enthusiasm, but I cannot imagine Hef demanding a constant sexual relationship - not these days (based on the show).

At least she takes him to the groomers. Lazy and cruel pet owners wouldnt spend the money.

I am disturbed at the thought of an underage teenager walking around a party full of grown men dressed like that (Im not blaming the men for eyeing her they dont know she is underage). Her hanging out watching the girls pose doesnt me. Her becoming the object of attention by dirty old Hef and his friends does by dressing like a teen hooker does. I am all for grown women doing what they want but she is a little too young. It wouldnt have bothered me so much if she had went to the party in jeans and a t-shirt. But putting her on display like that is dirty...in the bad way.

Wait, was it ever said how old Anastasia is? I never heard them say it, but I was under the impression that she's at least 18 years old.

whoa!!!! poisonivy...that was some serious dirt! So what do you suppose Fred Durst, Bill Maher, and Scott Baio would do if PB went bankrupt and kaput tomorrow?!?

...The dangerously curious part of me still wants to go to a PB party badly!!!! *bites nails*

Is it just me or does the idea of these woman doing HH remind anyone else of the Sex in the City episode where Samantha was having an affair with an old guy until she got a glimpse of his saggy, wrinkly butt?

I couldn't agree more. He's got these women on the payroll so he can keep up the illusion of having a certain type of lifestyle. Unless I see film of it, I'm not buying that he's doing it with any of them, much less all of them.

Word to this. I thought Anastasia was a very beautiful girl, and they made her over to look like a cheap, slutty tart. What the hell was her mom crying about? She was happy her youngest daughter in going to follow in the older daughter's footsteps and be a delusional, pathetic, aging woman whose biggest dream is to be naked in a magazine? How lovely. And if Anastasia's going to have a career as a half-dressed party girl, she should hang out with Kenda in the gym a bit first. Oy, those abs were not good!

I totally agree! I don't think she is fat by any means, but the outfit choice did not flatter her figure. She could have dressed within party guidelines in a different outfit & looked much better.

I am so suprised so many of you refuse to believe that there is anything sexual going on between HH and these girls. You are all so wholesome and sweet for giving them the benfit of the doubt. The problem is they don't deserve it.

I thought it was common knowledge what really goes on with HH and his "girlfriends" - thursday orgies, no condoms, girl-on-girl for HH's amusement whether they want to or not, backdoor action, frontdoor action, sidedoor action (I don't know what that means, got carried away). Maybe my sources in LA are wrong, but that is what I have always understood.

BOOBS! I mean... BOOBS! I was so, so mezmerized by Kendra's boobs last night, and not in a sexy way, but ina sort of petri-dish science experiment way. The implants were so, so obvious - you could see their outlines when she was twirling them around at Midsummers. Yeech! Also, For as much as Kendra is a tomboy! She doesn't wear bunny costumes! She doesn't know how to make cookies!, she sure was tarted up good in pink and she seemed to have done a craft project on her shoes. I guess cutting and gluing isn't a gender-specific task.

Also, Anastasia just needs to put some clothes on, put her hair in a ponytail, and move out of the mansion post-haste. I thought the bare elements of the makeover were fine - it was the makeup and the outfit that did her in to a look of total slutitude. At least her hair was pretty natural looking, and not bleached-out white like Kendra's.

Thanks for the info, poisonivy, but I still adhere to the theory that Hef is just a big ol' size daddy and this chickies are beards.

They'd open their very own "FiBS Strip Club & Massage" joint, of course.

The one by Jill Anne Spaulding? I've heard some people have serious doubts about her credibility. Although, if what she says is true....ewwwww.

I read it online....now if I could only remember the title....

I don't know, I think they are being portrayed pretty nicely... It's extremely hard to imagine them doing anything dirty with the old man (many people here on this forum still aren't convinced). I mean, I personally have a very hard time with college-educated Bridget pimping herself out that way. Anyone who has been to college knows what a female-empowering environment it is.


This question has been debated before... does anyone know? It seems like it might get pretty ugly. Also I would imagine there's somebody new already waiting in the wings (God forbid Hef would have to "go without" one night) Ew, he disgusts me. Nice example he's setting for his two sons.

Yes, not to mention that he's still married. Boy, wouldn't it be cool to see Holly's reaction and rationalization if Kimberly came over for a visit. "Holly, hon -- you'll need to sleep on the bannister. Be a dear, would you?" Except, I don't think Hef actually addresses them by their names, just "honey."

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005005/bio

I'm still beyond squicked about the 'no condom' thing.. what does he do, have them shot with BC pill dartguns every day? Or have someone force in diaphragms each night? Fuckin' gross.

Im not sure if Bridge is as empowered as most college girls. Hellooooo! this is a woman who was contemplating missing her FINAL exam over taking pictures for PB, and she CRIED when she found out she wasnt going to be in ONE of the pictures. And she reminds us every show that her LIFELONG dream is to pose for playboy. Not to mention she lives in a room that looks like hello kitty puked are over it, and she dresses up in costumes just like a five-year old daddy's little princess.

I never really sought out Playboy dirt, but I have seen various "centerfolds exposed" type documentaries and realize that things are A LOT sleazier than they seem. I don't have any problem believing that, at one time, Hef's girlfriends were forced to screw him whenever he felt like it (or perform for his amusement or whatever), but the Hef I see on this show doesn't seem that interested in sex. They have to put in sound effects and double takes to make it seem like Hef is excited about seeing his scantily dressed "girlfriends". The way he interacts with Bridget and Kendra is in no way sexual. I would throw Holly in there, too, but she acts sexually towards him so I can believe there is something going on there. I understand why the more sordid aspects of life at the mansion would be edited out, but I don't think the only way to do that is to make Hef look like he has zero interest in his girlfriends. Maybe I will see a documentary that makes me view the relationship between Hef and his girlfriends in a different light, but, based on what I have seen on this show (my only real reference point), I don't think the orgies and condom-free banging are regular activities at the mansion these days, at least where Hef is concerned.

I also have a recollection (maybe it was mentioned up-thread?) that one of Hef's ex-girlfriends, Brande Rodderick (spelling) basically admitted to Howard Stern that she didn't have sex with Hef. Not sure if she said something to that effect or just kept quiet and let Howard do the talking.

I get the impression HH doesn't know what is going on half the time. He seems dazed and confused most of the time. Creepy the rest of the time.


The make over on the sister was nice but kind of skanky too. And having mom there to see her daugther's revel at a Playboy party even weirder (is that a word?)

Crystal,

The book is called Upstairs, it is online, Ms Spaulding listed the URL in the E Online GND forum, you need a password for it which she graciously provides, I've seen it and well....



*sigh* I really feel for poor Bridget...it's kind of hard not to. I noticed she didn't really fall apart until she spoke to Ana though....was there something Ana said that we, the loyal viewers, are not privy to? Well, duh.

Holly did say that she and Bridget are friends....hmm...we also know some of these girls do sleep with each other, either as an act for Hef, or (perhaps) in the time honored manner of strip club dancers....maybe Bridget was just broken hearted one of her best (intimate) friends was appearing with Kendra? I mean I hate to go all Mulholland Drive on you all, but that's what I think COULD be the missing link here.



Plain, Hef is not the only married one. Bridget is also married. This info is known on various forums, including E's. She is not divorced, so far as I know. If Hef minds, he's not showing it.



Peach, I'm so glad I wasn't the only one creeped out by Ana's makeover. Someone said that she looked like her (apparently much older) sister, sort of a Bridget Mini-Me. Ana was a nice looking, though by no means gorgeous, girl. It seemed she was kind of young to be tagging along all this too. And momma Judy? Gawd, what DOES she think about this? I'm actually angrier at her than Bridget or Ana. Bridget may have a ten year old's taste in clothing and decor, but I don't get any sense that's she's trying to be a sleaze, nor Ana, so what's momma's excuse?



OK....as a matter of fact, the girl you're referring to is an EX-girlfriend, Stacey Burke by name, she is apparently still on good terms with Massa, and helps out Holly and Bridget on their Yahoo groups.

Finally caught the repeat last night. When Ana went to the spa, they said it was owned by Jonathon Baker...is this the same, vile Jonathon that was on The Amazing Race?

Anyone feel like shelling out $13US to verify if Bridget Marquardt is married? Her home county superior court doesn't have any divorce filings for her.

http://www.co.san-joaquin.ca.us/recorder/vital.htm

I think the E! forum is where I found it, and also where I saw some posts doubting her credibility. But like I said, if what she writes is true.....then hand me the brain bleach.

YES it is. I completely forgot that they went to Skin Spa. They had to mention that little bastard's name, no doubt because he wants as much publicity as possible. I'm surprised he didn't meet them personally, seeing as how they were accompanied by a camera crew. Barf.

Kendra has to be the funniest of them all. She is the new Jenny. Without her the show would fall flat. Don't get me wrong they all play a part but the real funny stuff comes from her off the wall comments. They all seem like they are having fun and that is all that counts.

I wonder why the girls picked Skin Spa of all spa s? I think the Skin Spa look quite yummy at times and I thought they did a great job on the girls too. Does anybody know were they are located?

The thought of someone so competitive and aggressive owning a spa, which is usually supposed to be a quiet and serene place, just does not compute.

Must all be an act then?

I finally caught the last couple episodes, and Kendra really confuses me. She seems to be very blunt about wanting to date an athlete -- trying to meet football players at fight night, hoping some hot athlete sees her pics in Playboy -- which I would think is a violation of her contract. Now I certainly think that Kendra could just be using the girlfriend thing to meet a rich athlete, but I can't believe they keep showing her expressing that sentiment when she's supposed to be Hef's "girlfriend."

Link to copyrighted articles, please.

Well, that jackass Jonathan's wife, Victoria, has also appeared in Playboy. I'm sure he offered up his spa for free publicity. Barf.

Who cares about Jonathan.................. I just wanted to know were the spa was becuse it looked like a great place and they did a great job on the girls. Does anybody know?

Here is the Skin Spa site.

The girls' issue is out to subscribers. There is a very small article and several pages of the girls. The pictures are typical Playboy but not that great. The airbrushing on all PB pics cracks me up, but it's so bad on some of these. Bridget should have asked them to smoothe her tummy out. The classiest shot is of the three in the grotto. Bridget is pouring champagne over Holly, and Kendra is licking it off Holly's stomach. Kendra really looks pretty except for the overly bleached hair.

ETA: Raquel, the pretty girl that was shown testing to be a Playmate, is the centerfold.

I just got mine in the email. I think the girls look great. And speaking of Jonathan and Victoria they are towards the back of the magazine with a picture with Dr Phil and Opra. Playboy Playboy Playboy who would have thought they would be front and center 50 years later.

PS thanks for the link. www.skinspa.com looks like a nice spa the girls went too.

Kendra just makes me laugh when she is on air.

Kendra kills the other two in looks! I would be mad if I were them to have to be photographed next to her. She looks simply stunning. If I were Hugh, I wouldnt let her go anywhere. Bridg looks unbelievably fat as all hell. She should have tried to lose weight before this shoot. Anyone notice Hollys airbrushed out vagina? She looks like one of those barbi dolls with a smooth crotch.

I meant to post this earlier when I first saw the episode. I've liked Kendra the most, because she seems to have the healthiest attitude of the three girls. Of course, that isn't saying a lot, because she is still in a very dicey situation. But at least she seems to realize that she isn't going to be there forever, and that she's just having fun while she's there.

But she bugged me when she kept saying that whatever she wore to the Midsummer Nights party would be hot. That was rather obnoxious. People can see that she has a nice body, but IMO, she'd have looked better in an outfit that covered up her breasts a little more. Whoever said upthread that they looked really fake was right.

I was kind of sickened by the mother's reaction to Anastasia's makeover. But the fact that she let her stay there for the summer indicates that she isn't too worried about bad influences on her daughter. It's one thing for Bridget to be there, living that lifestyle; after all, Bridget is an adult. But most mothers would object to even having a girl as young as Anastasia there at all. But the mother's attitude sheds a little light on Bridget's behavior.

Count me in as one who doesn't think Hef is having sex with all of the girls. Even with Viagra, there's probably a limit to what he can do. I believe he may have sex with poor, deluded Holly, but I doubt that all the other sexual activity that used to go on there is still happening. Hefner just can't stop trying to project the image that he's this playboy, swinging from the chandeliers 24/7. In his own way, he's just as deluded as Holly. I don't think most people really care if he's sleeping with the girls, or if they are just on his payroll. Even if he is sexullay involved with all three, because they wouldn't be there if not for the money and the lifestyle.

They might like Hefner well enough, but I don't believe there's any way in hell that they'd be living with him if he was a sucessful but unknown businessman. So Hef isn't fooling anyone with this dog and pony show.

Uh, Jenny means to be funny, Kendra is purty but not so smart. Go see her answer questions on the Playboy website.

So I'm over in the 'E' forums and there was a thread about the guest house. Anyhow, I thought Kimberly and Hef's two sons lived in the guest house, or am I getting it mixed up with some other peice of property. Anyhow, somone who posed for one of the upcoming issues posts there and says that Holly had been redecorating the guest house all Summer, this was in reference to the episode where they all posed and did their photoshoot, and Holly found the torn pictures in the trashcan and Hef says to her (Something to the effect): "If I can stay out of the guest house, you can stay otu of the trashcan."

Knowing what we know about his estranged wife living on the property still, I figured that would be something regarding him not going to the guests house for any nookie visits to his not-quite-ex wife!


Am I reaching/mistaken?....