Put me in the Bridget has a smokin bod camp also. Her bod is nicer than her face.

The article in ELLE mentioned that it is young women who are the audience for GND. Many women probably view the lifestyle there through rose colored glasses. One read through of Jill Ann's description of "sex night" would cure many of the idea that living with Hef at the Mansion is a hedonist's dream come true. Fact is that it is degrading on so many levels to be one of his "girlfriends." Holly is pathetic. I am sure that she would rather have ancient old Hef to herself (she must have some grandpa fixation) yet she has to work overtime to keep him interested. It must be painful to her when he is quoted as saying that he wasn't immediately atttracted to her physically. Further, her role in these sexcapades is just so hummilating IMHO, kudos to her for not becoming a drug addict (at least that we know of.)

I don't think she has a bad body at all- I'm chunky and 25, and I would love to have her figure. I think she has a worse body that than Holly and Kendra and every other Playmate prancing around, which is the only reason she looks bad. In a group of normal women, she'd look great, as long as she was wearing normal clothes, and not doing the 'sexy poop' face.

Im surprised Kendra was let out to Party without Hef, I also saw some pics in Star Mag and Kendra was in Florida at the beach looking cute but without the rest of the Harem.
I think the reason she is allowed out and about by herself (and overnite) with out curfew is because Hef likes her best!
I love how Holly's panties get in a twist when Hef drools over Kendra...LOL

I felt like Bridgets mom felt uncomfortable being either a) on camera or B) with Bridget. Did anyone else get that vibe?

I imagine that at Heff's age he just shoots a little cloud of dust now.

I think Bridget has a nice body, too. She looks soft and natural and womanly. Her boobs actually look like they belong on her body. Kendra and Holly's boobs... not so much.

I'm in the "Bridget has a nice body" camp also.

Shouldn’t it be “Grumpy”, “Happy” and “Dopey” or “Doc”, “Dopey” and “Sleepy”? Holly is not sexy to me – she’s like a old grandma in a *cough*20-something old*cough* body.

Good points – I think that is it. Once my hubby saw how stupid the girls were and that they would group date an old man the luster was gone. Now, there are some who want a dumb girl who would date anything that breaths (or in Hef’s case – isnt’ fully dead).

Ha – this made me laugh and would be a great band name (AAD – age appropriate dick). But it raises the question – would they be in trouble if they got some male action on the side? Is that rule breaker for Hef? I get the feeling that Kendra likes both sides of the fence and would go for it if she wasn’t followed by cameras. And he also seems to like girl-on-girl action.

Well if I remember correctly we have had long debates here about the fact that Hef is allowed to have multiple chics but the girls are supposed to be faithful to him. Where we originally heard that I have no idea.

Lets hope its not Jill Ann's book, I barely escaped developing a brain tumor the first time I skimmed it. I'd hate to go back to look for a reference.

I think she was uncomfortable with the cameras because when they were packing in their hotel room, Bridget said something along the lines of it was too short of a trip and her mom instantly agreed and there was a genuine sadness in her voice. Plus, I noticed, when Bridget and her mom were walking around the Halloween Fair, there were almost constant flashes going on - like people were constantly taking pictures of them.


But did you notice when she came home Hef immediatly asked her if she had problems coming home because she was late? If I wasn't privy to all the information we had on the boards, I wouldn't have thought too much of it. But it came off very controlling with the knowledge of their curfew.

Yeah, the girls have to be faithful. Most of the girls who were kicked out, were kicked out because they got caught with other guys. Although Izabella said Hef met a lesbian couple who'd have sex with each other in front of him, and wanted them to become GFs, so I guess the rule does not apply to sleeping with other women.

Oh no he didn't, invite the lesbian couple in. What a horrendous douche. Asking why she missed curfew is creepy and you can bet Holly ran it into the ground later as she snuggled down for a good night's sleep with Puffin.

Of course he did...grandpas ALWAYS worry when someone comes home late (in his case, probably any time after 8:00 p.m.). LOL! He probably cut off her allowance for that week and grounded her for two weeks.

I remember in Jill Ann's tome it said that the girls were not even supposed to LOOK at other people when they were out. They were supposed to sit at Hef's table and just look on adoringly at him, not look the slightest bit interested in any other guy. I think she also said that "Bridget Marquadt - the Girls Next Door" (how annoying is that on her blog page) did have a serious boyfriend but that none of the girls who had boyfriends talked about it and would neither confirm or deny. It was weird though how some of the girlfriends back when there were a lot of them had kids and the kids actually lived at the mansion with their moms.

I was just really surprised to read though all about the lack of ANY protection - Hef must be soooo diseased and I guess just doesn't care.

To be honest I am pretty sure that the scene where Kendra comes in after coming back from San Diego is so FAKE! it was sooo obvious to me from the first time I saw it that it was fake. Just what Kendra says and the way everyone looks and then what a coincidence that Bridget walks in right after Kendra. And Bridget also sounded sooo fake coming in. the whole scene looked scripted!

Pure, Tao, and Tryst are the "hot" clubs in Vegas- where all of the celebs host their parties (ie Paris, Jessica Simpson, etc). Pure is located in Caesar's Palace, which is pretty close to mid-Strip in the center of all the action. The Playboy Club is located in the 2nd tower of the Palms, which is a pretty hip hotel (Real World Las Vegas was filmed there), but is located off-Strip. While the Palms (and the Playboy Club) is on the come-up, Pure is pretty well established as the "it" spot for a party in Vegas. The lines are full of celeb wannabees and posers. That's probably why Kendra hosted her party there.

So I finished Izabella's book this weekend and while she is obviously well educated, well traveled and was able to make a fairly eloquent case of what made her choose the "bunny" lifestyle (unlike, ahem, Jill Ann, shudder), I still was left with such a negative impression of her. While I am sure having to ride some old man dick and live in a house full of catty, plastic bitches is not the easiest thing, she didn't seem to understand that that was HER CHOICE.

She was constantly whining about how she wasn't getting enough money from Hef for allowance or clothing or how she had dental insurance but he wouldn't pay for teeth whitening and how expensive it was to live at the house FOR FREE or how in the past the girls used to get more expensive cars than they got during her stay. I wanted to shake the girl by the end of it and let her know that normal relationships do not include a monthly "salary" higher than mine and that yes, when you break up with someone who bought you a car, in general circumstances, you are going to have to return it.

And, in the middle of talking about how "cheap" Hef was with all the girlfriends, she discussed how all of them had boyfriends and hookups on the side who they would go see during their daytime hours. And about how annoying the curfew was because it meant they couldn't stay out all night partying when the old man wanted to go home. When, in reality, their entire job was being a "professional" girlfriend to Hef, whatever that may entail. So, while I personally would not put myself in that position, Izabella did and I think she should have shut up and put on some more baby oil. Though, she said the gay sex rumors were false (and no mention of anal sex at all).

Izabella also gave examples of how completely fake Bridget was and how conniving and money hungry Holly was. And she said Hef had no feelings for Bridget, he just added her to make Holly happy.

Hello fellow GND fans, long time lurker, first time poster....

Just finished reading what passes for Jill Ann's version of events and found myself mostly annoyed by how its was written. How many times did we need to be reminded about Holly,Bridget and Kendra being on the GND??? As most pointed out she came across as someone wanting to play both sides, claim she was better than the rest, and yet did anything to still go to the parties. Pathetic.But one part reminded me of some of the Holly debates here, about how she seems to tolerate the other two and if she had her way, she would have married Hef along time ago. Dont remember exactly but supposedly when asked for tips, Holly supposedly said that she didnt wanna share her boyfriend. Hello, then what are you doing in this relationship? ( Although we have already guessed)

Considering how desperate Holly is to be the one and only girlfriend, how would adding Bridget have made her happy?

Maybe Holly figured that Bridget, being older, isn't as much of a threat to her position. Since Hef would probably have a minimum of three girlfriends, Holly probably feels better having someone like Bridget than someone like Kendra. That's one explanation. Actually, Bridget looks better than Holly, IMO. Bridget has real breasts, and looks more like a real woman overall. Of course, of the three, Bridget has the least Playboy-like image, and to me, that's a good thing. Hef seems to favor more and more of a plastic look these days.

I may be one of the few, but I think Holly looked better pre-surgery. She might not have been as striking in Playboy fashion, but from what I saw in the pictures, she was a perfectly nice-looking woman. She looks too "done" to me now. Part of it is her hair and makeup, but I think it's also that her face just looks somewhat off to me. It's almost like a doll's face, in a scary way, like something that was created in a factory. I guess in a way it was. JMHO, but I think that if Bridget would act a bit more grownup, lots of men in the real world would prefer her to Holly.



I agree, Izabella sounds totally whiny and unrealistic, from what you've reported. The job of Hef's girlfriend sounds pretty bad to me, even if there wasn't any sex involved. The GND are like three birds in a gilded cage (well, semi-gilded). I didn't like having a curfew as a teenager, although I understood why it was necessary. But as an adult, I really wouldn't be able to stand having a curfew imposed by a "boyfriend." But Izabella knew the rules, so she shouldn't have had gone there if they were so odious to her.

I haven't read either Izabella or Jill Ann's books, mainly because the comments I've heard here have led me to believe that I don't want to know any more about the sexual activities that go on in the mansion. Plus, I take these tell-all books with a grain of salt. I'm sure they want to sell as many books as possible, and I don't think either of them would be above exaggerating or even lying in some cases.

Anyway, I think it's better for me if I don't read too many details about the sex. I enjoy the show more when I think that Hef has these women on his arms for show. No matter what anyone writes, or what used to go on there, I still find it easier to think that he's only sleeping with Holly, and that Kendra and Bridget are there to prop up his sagging image. Oh well, whatever the truth about the sex, I watch for the trainwreck factor. I'm really agog every week at what these women do. Just based on the show itself, Kendra and Bridget seem like nice women. Bubble-headed, for certain, but basically sweet. Holly has a cold, conniving quality that really puts me off. They may be totally different off-camera, but that's how they seem to me.

Basically Bridget was a hanger-on at the Mansion for a long time. She tried out for the magazine and didn't make it. She wasn't made girlfriend because Hef had no interest in her but she would do whatever it took to be invited to all the events, etc etc. This was also during the time when Holly was made main girlfriend and there were still like 6 other girlfriends. I guess none of them really got along with Holly because she was, well, Holly. Anyways, Bridget decided to make herself Holly's "bitch" thinking there was power there and in a few months, she was made a girlfriend and invited to move in. Izabella talks about several instances were it was Holly/Bridget against the rest of the girls and usually H/B would win because Holly was constantly in Hef's ear and he knew he had to take her side. In Bridget, Holly had a "team". I'm sure know Holly would do anything to boot her ass out of the house now but at the time it served her purpose.

Izabella also talks about how when the main girlfriend before Holly left, Holly kind of just pushed her way into the position. Izabella said she didn't think Hef was really that into her, as he had been with girls in the past, but he needed someone to fill the position fast and that none of the other girls wanted to take it.

Granted, like carmelized said, I totally take all this stuff with a grain of salt. It's two somewhat bitter women's point of view but I do see some of the characteristics/scenarios being played out in the show so its probably not so far off. I also do think, at this point, Hef may almost need Holly as much as she "needs" him. I'm not sure he could find someone to dote on him so thoroughly anymore and I'm sure he realizes it and has to acquiesce to some of her demands.

Wow...for some reason, I found Bridget's trip to Chicago with her mom to be so sad...
She seemed SO overexcited about every damned little thing, like she was overcompensating and faking to make up for her mom feeling otherwise weird and uncomfortable.
That trademark laugh of hers was working overtime!
She wasn't looking hot at all either---I usually think her body is cute and real too, but that tight pink top she was wearing gave her an unflattering bit of a belly.

Oh well. It's becoming oddly comforting to watch her get giddy about food every episode.
No wonder she refers to herself as "the fat one" of the girls!

Actually Bridgett was the first to have a clothing line. It is called Blonde Mafia. Surprisingly, it's just simple tees and hoodieswith the Blonde Mafia logo that the girls often wear on the show. It's been out for around two years now.

So the mansion smelt like dog urine *AND* used baby diapers!
Ah, so that's the places to avoid, ha ha.

This is a good point, roseyrun. Hef can always find another main girlfriend, but he's not likely to ever find someone as devoted to the job as Holly. He may not want to settle down with one woman, but I doubt if he's really looking to make any changes to the lineup at this point, especially since the public has gotten to know the Girlfriends. If they want to stay, I can actually see Kendra and Bridget staying for at least a few more years. Back when Hefner was dating seven women, I didn't know much about any of them, and only saw them at an occasional premier or in an entertainment magazine. They all looked like interchangeable clones to me, and if he had replaced any of them with another random blond, I don't think it would have been that noticeable. But if Kendra or Bridget left or was replaced, it would be noticed and commented on in the press and on the internet.

Seriously, at 80 whatever wouldn't you just be too damn exhausted to go fiddling around with ' the line-up'. He can't shake Holly without major drama, he will let Kendra live there til the day he kicks it and Bridget is Switzerland, he needs her as a buffer between the other two.

I am sure that back in 'the day' that mansion was full of all sorts of squicky sex, and I am sure that 'the day' lasted longer for Hef than it does for most old men but now.....I am with the poster who said they prefer to believe that things are much tamer. I mean how easy would it be to slip something in his evening drink and tell him in the morning that he was fabulous.

I have no doubt that he sees all of them nekkid on occassion, and that Holly does the deed with some frequency, but Kendra and Bridget...I can believe they used to have sex with him but have stopped all together now. I can even believe that Kendra only did it a couple times.

I think Bridget and Kendra 'love' him in a way and are thankful for all they have with him but I think they get a little sumpin' on the side here and there.

But then my opinion changes every five minutes...so don't hold me to this.

Because standing next to Bridgette makes Holly seem younger, thinner and less creepy.

Continuing in the "Holly is a phoney b*tch" sentiment, even though her adulation and constant care for Hef may or may not be self-serving, I give her kudos for stepping up to that task, since no one else apparently performed head girlfriend duty with as much passion and enthusiasm as she has.

But man, does she have any actual REAL friends she socializes with beyond occasionally sitting around chatting with Bridget?
Unlike Bridget and Kendra, you never see her just casually hanging out with other gals other than for business purposes. That's just another odd part of her creepilly calculating personality, I guess.

I agree with the others who say that Holly likes Bridget because she's not a threat. She's already married so she's not trying to gun for the Corpse Bride title. Although Kendra definitely has no interest in that illustrious title, Hef adores her so she's a threat to Holly's place.

I'm dying to know what happened to Bridget and her husband. If you don't want to be married anymore, just get divorced. I can't believe that the husband would be thrilled with having to say, "My wife left me for an 80 year-old who has a harem."

I believe that Kendra has some sort of pro-athlete guy on the side. Since she's into sports and athletes, she can pull off hanging with those guys under the guise of just being a sports fan without suspicion.

Has a girlfriend ever been demoted from #1 to #2 or 3? Just curious since the gfs seem to be ranked.

I think there was less ranking when there were 7 of them. Except for #1, that has pretty much always existed. I think the ranking now is just so obvious because there are only three and its obviously based on when they arrived, not Hef's preferences or the ranking would probably be;

#1 Kendra
#1 back biter Holly
and
Bridget who?

Hahaha SunBun, this is how this line read to me (with girlfriend being on the next line), and I had to laugh!!!

Holly definitely looks like some crazed doll and that's one of the main reasons she bothers me. Creepy dolls always did scare me a little. But her cookie-cutter features, fake hair and the fact that her face doesn't move at all make her scary.



I LOVE when she says she invited her "friends" to do something, when in actuality, they're the Playmates from the Playmate House. They may be her real friends, but whenever they are around Holly, they don't seem too chummy with her. It just seems forced. It's kind of sad, I guess, but I would really love to hear what the Playmates say about her when she's not around.

Ew ew ew ew. And oh so true.

I wonder, if Hef does live to be like 90 something, what the mansion inhabitants will consist of. I cannot imagine Kendra wasting such a large portion of her young adult life living there but how long would she stay until her I-cannot-take-this-anymore point? I guess Holly would still be around and with enough plastic surgery, she could still look 25 (not that I think she looks 25 now). Bridget, I have no clue.

Like Shaun White! I'm embarassed to admit how long I looked at those Pure pictures hoping to catch of glimps of him in the background.

They all look unhappy and thrown together when hanging out with Playmates or future Playmates or random hangers-on with implants. The only two that actually seem to be real friends are Kendra and Destiny. Everyone else seems like the producers ordered them to act like one big happy Playboy family. I guess just because you got your tits from the same doctor and your fake bunny jewelry from the same hideous old man doesn't mean you have anything in common.

Okay, this may be a stupid question and I know not everyone likes details of the tell-all "books" so I will black this out....I almost wish I did not read so much of Jill Ann's page...a little too many images I did not need!

i do realize Hef is old and can't really get it up....but if it's all unprotected sex in the mansion and has been years then how come none of the girls have ever gotten pregnant? Surely Holly can't be the only one who ever wanted to have Hef's baby, even if some of the other girl's were just trying to hit pay dirt....so if there is no protection used, and a girl can easily stop taking the pill, and in the "book" it said if a girl tried to use protection Hef would be mad and super offended...so he has never been worried about accidentally impregnating anyone? I don't get it? Is it just that he's too old now that it's not a possibility? I just got the impression that this is the way he has always liked it....okay, I can't believe I'm at work wondering abot this...

i do realize Hef is old and can't really get it up....but if it's all unprotected sex in the mansion and has been years then how come none of the girls have ever gotten pregnant?

Well, according to the books, he prefers anal sex anyway, so I'd say that's a contributing factor. But I also wouldn't be surprised if he's paid for multiple abortions.

They don't get pregnant because he only goes in the back door. So in addition to having curfews, the GND haven't had vaginal sex since the Clinton administration. Fun, huh?

What a lover he must be...rolls eyes. I doubt Hef ever bothered to learn where the clitoris is -- except to airbrush them out of pictures. After all, in his world, women only exist to please men. They don't have public hair, they don't argue, they don't age, they don't get periods, they don't have their own interests, etc.

Yes, I'd agree that he's probably paid for multiple abortions. And who can say that he isn't paying for some off the record kids even now. I bet they'll come crawling out of the woodwork when he kicks it.

For anyone who hasn't already seen them, I'd recommend Netflixing TGND on DVD. I just finished watching the first season, and the DVD extras are pretty revealing. There are a lot of deleted scenes, which are usually more candid and less scripted. A lot of them are pretty funny, and there's a few interesting ones where Hef talks about the magazine, his interest in animals, and things of that nature. He really does come across as being an intelligent guy. (Aside from the nasty details we've read about elsewhere...) There's also a really interesting version of the pilot that never aired that focuses a lot more on the staff. It also shows Bridget's sleepover birthday party where they hired a male stripper and she got sex toys as presents, all in the mansion, interposed with scenes of Hef sitting in bed watching silent films.

There are also really interesting/revealing interviews with all the girls. For all the crap I spew about Holly, I have to give her credit for outright admitting in the interview that she's had plastic surgery and she doesn't like having to share Hef. Bridget basically admits that she came to the mansion to get closer to Playmate and because she was broke living in LA. She sort of expresses her feelings for Hef in a friendly way--as in, he's a really nice guy and everyone who meets him loves him. Kendra comes across pretty meek in her first interview, and admits that Hef "saved" her from "not really being happy." It seems like she's really gained a lot of confidence in the last few years.

Anyway, I'm not selling anything here, but I found them really interesting. Thought you guys might be interested in my review!

I liked watching the DVDs w/the commentary on. I'm really curious to hear what the say on the Season 2 DVDs, because it seems like they really don't even like each other at this point.

The girls are supposed to be on Larry King tommorow, I saw this posted on another website:

May 17, 2007 9:18 PM
Subject LARRY KING
Body: hey everyone im just lettin ya know that we will be on Larry King tomorrow at 6pm. Im happy cuz i got to speak my opinion about the nasty article written bout me in Elle mag and just keep in mind that i was hella nervous hahahaa!!! k luv ya
KDUB

It was my understanding from the "book" that each girl just rode Hef for two minutes, and that he only came at the very end with Holly during their round of anal sex. So, taking into account his age, his pre-ejaculatory fluid (if there is any) probably wouldn't contain much viable sperm. He's not really doing anything to get anyone pregnant. Smart Hef.

And the vaginal infections from all that baby oil probably make it harder to conceive anyway.

Oh my God, I just grossed myself out! Sorry, people!

And now it smells like dog urine *AND* used old-man diapers!

Bwah! La plus ça change, ...

Izabella talks about how one would think that Hef was a great lover, but that he doesn't put forth any effort. Now, I'm sure it can be chalked up to his age, but I bet he also has a big fat whopping sense of entitlement, too.

Has Hef ever had a reputation as a great lover though? He's been known for dating/having sex with beautiful women, but I don't recall him ever having a reputation for being so good in the sack that everyone wants to screw him.

They had a release party last night with all three girls on the red carpet. Hef wasn't there because he was "at home playing cards with the guys." Man, he sure is fun!

Holly looked tense (since I suspect that was the millionth time she'd been asked where Hef was), Bridgette looked lost, and Kendra looked bored out of her skull.

I recall an interview Hefner gave a while ago-- a few years, at least--where he sang the praises of viagra. 'Claimed it was basically the greatest thing since sliced brea and made it clear he was a regular user and fan.

Gross.

The Larry King ep is on now.

Watching L King right now. Holly looks lovely {there is a lot of snark about Holly's looks on the forum, but I must confess that I think that Holly is a great example of how plastic surgery can improve someone's looks}. Kendra looks adorable, the new hair color suits her, alas, Bridget is looking a wee bit her age.

Anyway, I have long thought that Larry King is one of the worst interviewers on TV, and he is at his worst tonight. He keeps trying to brow-beat the girls about their relationship with Hef, how abnormal it is, etc. He also keeps going on about the age difference between them and Hef...what a hypocrite, King is substantially older than his current wife.