The 2 random dogs are named Archie and Littlefoot. They seem to be general house dogs.

Those two random dogs are really old. Maybe they died? Hence the article's naming 7 as opposed to 9 dogs...

I agree. It's like her Mom secretly wants to be a girlfriend with all that talk about how she looks and plastic surgery and kissing up to Hef. Sorry Mom, you missed the age cut off about 20 years ago. Whenever I see Kendra's mom, I see how Kendra grew up to be such a skank. She reminds me of the other cheesy, fake, SoCal mothers in the "real housewives" show.

I still like Holly the best and I really do hope Hef marries her, if only to shut up the folks who think she's delusional. As I said before, is it really so unusual for a woman to deliberately plot to marry the man of her choice? Gee, I only have like...twenty girlfriends who saw their prey, aimed for it and married it with the guys left wondering what hit them. I know girls who said at 18 they were going to marry a doctor and were married to a med student by 21. I know girls who, even in this day and age, pulled the old "whoops I'm pregnant!" trick and it worked - they're married SAHM's now. I think the only people who think women aren't calculating like this are men. Other women know how often it happens!

Bridget will either marry someone else or wind up one of those sad 50 year olds in SoCal, still wearing skin tight clothes even though she doesn't have the body for it anymore. The person who said she is skinny fat is right on. I'm the same way. I'd rather starve than work out and if I look good in clothes at my age, that's good enough for me. But no one is photographing me naked! If they were, you'd better believe I'd drag my butt to the gym on a daily basis.

I've seen Hef's personal dogs lying at his feet when they're sitting at the table on the show. They're still around. They just have a cool owner who doesn't make them wear, like, fuschia tutus, so they're not as noticeable.

You hit it right on the nose. I read the article twice because I couldn't quite understand the intention of the article. Like my opinion of the girls didn't change at all.

Because I am too cool for school I look at their MySpaces. Anyways, Holly has a "friend" named Holly Madison and it's her dog. Is she dumb and just using her own name for a page for her dog, or is she dumb and named her dog after herself, or is she dumb and forgot her dog's name?

It was there about a month ago, and I can't double check now as Myspace is blocked from work, but maybe someone can figure out what that is aout because it confuses me to Kendra levels.

It belongs to a fan who named her dog Holly Madison. She posts on Holly's yahoogroup sometimes. I knew she named her dog after Holly, but I didn't know she'd made the dog a MySpace. Although, it's so bizarre I almost want to believe she's punking Holly (naming a female dog after her and getting her on Holly's top friends by kissing her ass would be amusing if it was intentional).

Holy lord.

Just finished reading (OK, skimming) Jill Ann's horrific memoirs. Though I've seen summaries and juicy tidbits here, it was still utterly repulsive to read. Though Jill Ann herself seems to be an incredibly sad character - she seems to give herself major props for not engaging in unprotected sex w/ Hef, but shows just how much self worth she REALLY has by still kissing ass to get into parties!

Did anyone else think that Bridget's mom had an "oh my god, my daughter's an idiot" look on her face a few times during the Chicago trip? I caught her sort of rolling her eyes at Bridget's over the top excitement about a hot dog and fake guts and stuff. Trust me, I know bitchy, "you're a complete dumb fuck" looks, cause I break them out myself all the time.

Not as stupid as their question about which two of the girls came from the same state and what the state was.

I'm ashamed that I know this, but there are 9 dogs within the mansion. Holly's 4, Kendra's 2, Bridget's 1, and the two "house dogs" that I suppose belong to Hef?

You know that house smells like piss with all of those dogs. Eeesh.

m ashamed about the fact that I could name 8 of the 9, and it was driving me nuts not knowing the name of the 9th dog! Seriously, I need more stuff to do.

I'm sure there are women out there who deliberately plot to marry a man, and even some who will still trap a man by getting pregnant. But trapping a man into marriage and staying married are two different things. Holly definitely seems like someone who would do that (and more) if she could get away with it. But I don't understand why anyone would want to marry a man who didn't want to marry them, especially a man who is three times her age and long-married to someone else. Hef has never been faithful to Holly, and with two other girlfriends in tow, he seems like a really bad bet for marriage.

What's really sad to me is that she desperately wants to have a child. I think this is selfish on her part. Even if Hefner eventually agrees to this, he could be 85 or older by the time the child is born. The odds would be against him living long enough to see the child live to 10 years old. I can't understand why she would deliberately want to do that to a child when she could easily meet someone much younger to have a child with. I can imagine Holly wishing that she had met Hef when he was younger and had a child, but the fact is she didn't. The time has long past when Hef should be having kids, IMO. He's been there and done that with two different women.

Holly seems like she's trying to marry and procreate as a grasp for money. That's just my take on it. She may have convinced herself that she loves him, but I doubt if she'd be so willing to mate and have a child with some everyday 80-year-old, even if he was financially viable. I believe that Holly has fallen in love with the Playboy image, and will do anything she can to stay a part of it for as long as she can. Maybe she sees herself living on the mansion property with a child like Kimberly Conrad, even after Hef is dead. But Kimberly Conrad doesn't seem all that anxious for a divorce, nor does Hefner, so I do think Holly is delusional if she truly expects to be married to him.

If Holly was just trying to land a rich or successful husband in general, or if she met someone and decided she wanted him, nobody would say anything. It's the fact she's set herself on being not just the wife but the "soulmate" of a celebrity she had never met when she started it who is a) 81 b) married with no intention of divorcing and c) infamous for choosing to have multiple girlfriends/sex partners at the same time.

Just because something isn't unusual doesn't mean it's okay. I have more of an issue, though (actually, my entire issue), she's set her sights on a man who's never going to commit the way she wants him to. He's not divorced and seems not to be, he has two other women there (and God knows how many other women he sleeps with at those parties), and has shown no sign of changing any of this. That's so sad and delusional to me.

Hef's not some 20something who's going to want to settle down and raise a family eventually. He's probably never going to be the man she wants him to be.

This is disgusting but I wonder if Hef is actually able to get Holly pregnant. It's possible, but your chances of getting a woman pregnant go down with age.

Didn't someone once mention an article or something confirming that, or at the very least mention they had to get new carpeting before the first season began filming?

...And sperm quality declines FAST after a man is 45 years old - men have biological clocks, too. That's where I think her desire to have a kid with Hef is selfish - she isn't thinking about the potential health problems a kid might have.

Yes - IMHO. Most smart women want to marry men who love them and actually want to marry them. Men aren't dolts - they'll resent being forced into marrying someone, even if its for an "accidental" pregnancy. Woman who have to plot or trick men have VERY low self esteem. I think Holly has very low self esteem - one reason she looked for validation of her "worth" by Playboy, Corp. (Same goes for Bridgette...). If she liked herself, she'd find a man who wanted to give her love and a family now of his own free will.

I agree. It's a longshot that Hef will ever marry Holly. But even if he did, what kind of marriage would it be? He'd probably still have other girlfriends there, after Kendra and Bridget have moved on. Or maybe he'll just sleep with other women whenever he wants to (or is able to) outside of the house. Maybe Holly wouldn't mind sharing Hugh so much if she was his wife. But I suspect that in 4 or 5 years, she's probably not going to want to be the oldest one there, sharing him with some 20-something women, wife or not.

Another thing that irks me is the fact that Hugh has apparently never undergone any plastic surgery himself, but he practically demands that these women become clones. If these women have to portray a certain image and look as youthful as possible for him, the least he could do is get a few nips and tucks himself. He doesn't look terrible for his advanced age, but I can imagine that his body is pretty run-down to look at. That would be fair enough if it weren't for the fact that he has such unrealistic expectations for the women in his life. But he calls the shots, and the women go along with it, so I guess he can look as old and decrepit as he wants to.

One more thing Holly should consider: if this show goes on for at least another couple of seasons, Hefner isn't likely to want to make any changes in the status quo. If he married her, what would they call the show? A Bride and Two Concubines" I don't see him getting rid of the other two while the show is still going. I don't know what kind of ratings the show gets, but I can't imagine that many people tuning in for The Girl Next Door.

Not to mention what STDs can do to fertility...esp since they don't use protection at these sex parties...

If this show continues for a few more seasons, maybe we will actually see Hef die. I don't mean to be cruel, but the guy is 81 - he could have a stroke at any minute, a heart atack, or the clamidia could kick in and finally kill him. He is not going to marry Holly, ever. She just seems like such a gold digger to me, what is she trying to get out a marriage to Hef? A child that he will not see past it's first few birthdays? The ego boost of becoming Mrs. Hefner? Or money?

At least Kendra sees her life at the mansion as temporary, and Bridget is too delusional to notice much of anything that doesn't have to do with costumes and cupcakes.

Can anyone explain to me why a nearly middle aged woman would need a whole bunch of horrendously expensive Halloween props? Jeebus - is that money burning a hole in her pocket, or what?

He must have gone to the same school of Hating on your Significant Others' TV Shows as my boyfriend did. When he looks at the updated TiVo list that says RW/RR Challenge, Real World, and Girls Next Door, he just shakes his head and says, "You didn't." I can't help myself.

Add me to the list that also thinks it's INCREDIBLY selfish to want a child who is being fathered by an 80+ year old. And I think it's obvious why one (well, Holly) would want that. It doesn't matter anyway- if HH's wife didn't divorce him a while ago when they separated, why would she divorce him now? So Holly could be his new bride? Uh, doubtful.

Gharlane:



Yes, I was just thinking about it with all this new talk of the nine dogs and found myself getting skeeved out.


Can you all cool it with the talk of Hef's dusty old sperm? The images of him standing naked with his old man flat ass are going to make me dry heave.

Snarla, you owe me a new laptop. lol!

Does anyone know how well Kendra and Bridget get along? I also noticed that B's mom looks just like Anastasia. I thought I'd throw that in since the running joke here is the Ana is really B's daughter. Heh heh. Bridget could have an amazing bod if she would just skip dessert and hit the weights.

Holly's extensions look horrible. Her and Paris Hilton look just alike, but all of those platinum blond skanks are interchangeable. I'm actually surprised that Paris hasn't posed for PB already.

Have there been any Playmates who have came out afterward and said they regretted posing? Someone mentioned that maybe Sara (PMotY) regretted it by her reaction to winning PMotY.

Has Holly frozen some of Hef's sperm, so if he dies she can still get pregnant? Im sure I remember seeing that on E! News one day.

I thought it was really creepy.

And is that a good thing. I think it's pretty trifiling myself.




Wordy McWord.

Looks like Kendra launched her clothing line over the weekend at Pure in Las Vegas. Where were Holly and Bridget?




If you go to the site purethenightclub there is a link with pictures.

I HOPE she was buying them for the Mansion's Halloween party. I don't see how she could afford to buy all that crap for herself AND still pay for that week's elaborate costume.

Just making up for the time lost while having a baby at 14/15.

Any links to samples of Kendra's vanity clothing line yet?

Kendra should have called her clothing line "How to Look like Hef's Whore"! Who in their right mind would buy clothes from this girl? I just can't imagine women out there saying "I want to look like a tramp, too"! If Pam Anderson's lingerie line tanked, you know this will too.

I don't know about you guys, but if I flip through the channels and land on Kendra's cyote like laugh I just might slit my wrists.

I guess if anyone has morbid curiosity: http://www.kdubclothing.com

Edited to note that the site doesn't seem to be up, but that's the url listed on her Myspace.

Please get in touch. We will come back soon.

That's the message you get for her web site...1) Does she mean please stay in touch? I mean, how can you get in touch when there is no contact info?

2) You would think if you were going to launch your clothing line, you would have your web site up and working to go along with your launch!

Oh Kendra....well at least it wasn't Bridget launching the clothing line...it would be pink strawberry shortcake style dresses that bare flabby midriffs no doubt...

a little off topic, but I just read Jill Ann's description of sex night..ewwwww! What I really found interesting was what Dicks most of the Hollywood Stars that go to the Playboy shindigs appear to be: most that she mentions don't bother to turn around, or even respond to the fawning Jill Ann!

I remember once when I was in an Antique Store and Kris Novoselic (of Nirvana) and his wife came in. There was one other shopper in the store, a young woman, and she asked for his autograph, and he turned her down cold. The disappointed look on this girl's face made me cringe, and I thought, what a creep.

I grew up in L.A. and have seen enough "stars" to conclude that most people that get in the entertainment business are self absorbed assholes. Jill Ann also mentioned how they went to the Rainbow on Sunset...talk about old school. I hung out there in the 70's and at that time it was a great place to see movie stars, recording artists, etc.

I agree that a lot of celebrity people and athletes I have come across in green rooms at some of my job events can be total a$$es, but then again I scanned through a little bit of Jill Ann's diary and it seems like all she did was try to get into VIP areas and harrass famous people to take pictures with her - that's exactly why celebrities have their VIP rooms, so they can stay away from starstruck, fawning "fans." I bet she was so annoying! Hilarious that Simon Cowell rolled his eyes at her when she couldn't get her camera working!

I'm quite interested to see what this clothing line looks like. At least Kendra's doing her thing and ensuring her future beyond the mansion.

What does it take to put together a clothing line anyway? It seems like everyone and their cousin has one. It used to be that people had their own perfume - that's so 1999.

It’s a similar situation in my house. The hubby doesn’t hate it per se – but he doesn’t watch it with me anymore. I’m the one friggin watching every episode I can. Maybe having your wife watch it with you takes the fun or naughtiness out of it?

They all have their own perfumes, too. Holly's is "sexy," Bridget's "sweet" and Kendra's "sporty." Actually they have tons of merchandise and they all technically own their own companies (like Kendra is CEO of KDub inc.). Someone on the E! board was bragging about paying $89 for a bobblehead doll. It's crazy. The most bizarre is that you can buy roses with Holly's face printed on them.

Thanks for the link to the pictures of her clothing launch party at PURE. I'm wondering if they actually showed the clothes there, though. All of the pictures had the caption, "Kendra Wilkinson celebrates the announcement of her new clothing line K Dub." So, you just throw a party to announce it? I thought you wait to have a party for when you actually have things to show people. Maybe that's why her webiste isn't even up, yet - she doesn't have anything to show... just announce! Lame.

Sadly, though, I am curious as to what they'll look like (i.e., how skankalicious they'll be).

Does anyone else think that in the third PURE party picture, Kendra looks A LOT like Jenna Jameson? I have thought that about her several times before while watching the show, but to me, that picture totally hits it on the resemblance head in an eerie fashion.

DING DING DING!!! WE HAVE A WINNA!!

Holly is turning into Gwen Stefani and Kendra is turning into Jenna J.

My husband hates the show. I get the, "You're a smart person. Why do you like this crap???" question each time I'm watching it. Meh.

Gwen Stefani should be insulted that Holly keeps trying to look like her. Gwen's been working in the music business since 1992 and gone out of her way to create her own look, good or bad. (Blue hair!) Plus she dated and married men within her own generation.

Was it me or are all of Kendra's photo ops look like she has no idea who she's posing with?

I DID notice the careful phrasing of Pure's website about her clothing announcement. She "was celebrating the announcement of her new clothing line K Dub with the help of friends and Kansas City Chiefs running back Larry Johnson who also stopped by to get in on the party."


Could Larry Johnson be her ticket out of the Mansion? One can only hope...

I get the same question! It is also posed when he sees me watching I Love NY, Charm School (actually any Vh1 reality show), Top Chef, Project Runway (wait, any Bravo reality show too).

I'm also interested in seeing the clothing line. I don't go to Pure (I live in Vegas but avoid that place like the plague), but they'll probably be showing the clothes at one of the conventions soon.

Were HH, Holly and Bridget at Kendra's clothing line release? I hope not. If they weren't there, she probably actually got to have fun with her friends and athletes. Maybe she even got some age appropriate dick in the bathroom. (Yes, I am slutty, but this would be the first thing on my mind if I was 'dating' HH).

I'm pretty up to date on entertainment/pop culture happenings, but I guess I haven't been paying close enough attention - what makes people say Holly is turning into Gwen Stefani? I have actually always liked Gwen, so having someone like Holly being compared to her is insulting!

Glad I'm not the only one that sees the resemblance between Kendra and Jenna Jameson. I could actually see Kendra becoming a huge porn star, but not in a sleazy way, if that makes sense. But then again, I doubt she has even 1/10th of the business acumen Jenna has, so Kendra, while probably someone who could easily be on top at first (no pun intended), would probably eventually spiral down and become another victim of the porn industry.

Since I'm on vacation and I don't have a disapproving husband, I'm watching the S1 DVDs from Netflix...and, much to my surprise, in the episode where they make over Anastasia, they show a scene of her lifting weights...with Bridget running on the treadmill in the background. So, maybe she does work out. Or maybe she just did it for the cameras. But, let it be known, that she was shown exercising at least once during the series!

I don't really get all the Bridget-is-flabby stuff. I'm 32 and I'd kill for her body. I keep thinking of her in that Devil costume for the liquor ad photoshoot (that Kendra was too young for or something)...I think her body looked INSANE! I didn't see any rolls or wayward jiggling at all. Holly looked really flat to me, like she doesn't have a whole lot of dimension. I think she's the one that's going to have to really watch it in the future, with her total straight-up-and-downness.



And that's putting it mildly. I struggled through most of Jill Ann's book as well (skipping the ENDLESS croaking about poker and Texas Hold Em and Champion of the World garbage) and I think that she's a good example of the type of woman that is attracted to Playboy, Hef and that 'lifestyle'. I love reading everybody's comments on this board--so many people have expressed exactly what I'm thinking more eloquently than I ever could--but I have a sneaking suspiscion that all of the speculation (Holly is calculating and manipulative, Bridget is batshit crazy and Kendra is secretly really savvy) stems more from the imaginations of a group of intelligent people having an ongoing conversation about them and less from the reality of the situation, which is that they are three cute, not-very-bright women with extremely low self-esteem who've had a little bit of good luck. To a girl with little self-worth, attention from somebody like Hugh Hefner must be intoxicating, and it's easy to see how that could lead to her willingness to subject herself to whatever is necessary in order to hold on to that. I agree that Holly is genuinely dedluded, thinking that Hef will marry her someday and father her child, but I don't think that there is any calculating evil wizardry behind it at all. They're all totally full of this important-by-association sense of worth that is totally dependent on being what they are.

It's sad.

But also totally awesome to watch.

Yay!

A guy I know said that pictures can't talk and some people should only be seen in pictures. He also stopped watching.

I don't get it either. I don't see any flab at all on Bridget's body. Also, they have showed her working out in a gym a couple of times.

Exactly, this show has ruined the fantasy for them: pretty girls have donkey laughs, the Mansion is not filled with horny women in nighties, some girls have messy rooms, Playmates don't actually look like their soft focussed centerfold photos, women age, etc.

Isn't it odd that Kendra would have her party at Pure instead of at that seedy Playboy Club they showed a while ago? I have never been to Vegas, so I don't know anything about the location, and I'm guessing that Pure is probably more hip than Playboy (anything is!) But still.

And yes, I do think Holly looks like she could be Gwen's talent-less, copycat sister. They both have hard features, fake platinum hair, the whole Marilyn-wannabe aura and all that.

My friend sent me this gossip blurb about a Playmate named Tamara Witmer:



I wonder what Holly's reaction was!