And I am sorry but its getting down right creepy that Kendra has a whole family that we talk about and even see, but Holly seems to have been beamed down from the mother ship. We even get glimpses of Bridgette's family. Holly better hire some fake family members to throw us off the trail of the fact that she's a robot.

I think her armadas of stuff keep the skanks a good arm's length away from her, sort of like a clutter condom.

Not me... I find it much more gross when Kendra tries to get her bro and mom laid at the mardi gras party and Bridget does a full cake popping strip tease for her dad. If I lived in the PB mansion (ew and yuck!) I certainly don't want to mom and pop stopping on by, especially on wednesday or friday night.

I don't think, if I were any of their relatives, I'd want to be publicly known as such and appear on the show.

Holly actually mentioned her sister last episode- apparently she's getting married in Jamaica. I found it interesting that Holly never clearly stated that she was going to the wedding, and certainly never said that she was a bridesmaid. That was really weird to me- I'd assume that sisters are automatic bridesmaids- I know mine will be.

Also, what the hell was the deal with Holly and Bridget taking the two dogs for a ride and making them 'give each other presents'? My sister and I had a wedding for two of our stuffed animals- when we were 6 and 9 years old! In women in their 20s and 30s, there was something desperate and sad about that. If they've got that much time on their hands, read a fucking book or something productive.

Hahahaha... Mary has easily worked there since the start of Playboy. It seems as though she's the only woman that Hef actually likes to spend time with, he's always up there talking to her and then Holly just barges in and interupts everything. I have to hand it to Mary though, she has much, much more patience with them than I ever would.

Actually I thought she did say she was going to the wedding. I thought it was so odd because:

a. I never knew Holly even had a sister (mostly because)
b. I think that is the first time we have ever heard her speak of her family and
c. It got me to imagining how Holly would act at her sister's wedding. Like, would she bring Hef and introduce himto the bride and groom all "Hey happily normal married couple, meet my 80-something year old boyfriend, who is still married to another chick, has two other girlfriends at home & needs me to baby oil his viagra filled dick up every second Wednesday." I wonder if she has enough personal insight to realize how ridiculous that would be. Think they'll figure out a way to bring the cameras? I can't wait!

I think it's just soooo creepy bringing family members into the mansion. Would you be comfy bringing your sweet baby sister into this weirdy weird environment like looney Bridget does with her sister? Bridget's mother seems nice enough, but her step father seemed sweaty and creepy. Oh, I forgot Bridget loves creepy things. I was really grossed out when step daddy was leering at Bridgie doing a striptease. Yuck!

I love Kendra's grandma -- that woman is hilarious. She should be on every ep! She says exactly what she thinks (maybe that's where Kendra gets it from). But something is a little off about the mother. She looks like she's led a very rough life. Her brother is a fug and looks like a K-Fed wannabe, but you can't blame the kid for looking around the mansion in wide-eyed amazement.

I'd say kudos to Holly for keeping her family away from the mansion, but I don't think that's what it's about. I think Miss Bug Eyes is hiding something and I bet it's big and juicy and really, really nasty. But what could it be??

Big word to the loving K's gram remark....she was so put off by K's grill. Loved it. Either way though, Gram & her Mom actually seem like cool ladies who obviously are aware of the strange dynamic in the house. Personally, I cannot imagine myself in that position but at least her family is aware of what is going on and they all seem like nice and grounded people. I mean, come on, when her Mom got completely nervous over Hef coming to visit her home--she was so appropriately nervous and freaked she might provide the wrong environment. All in all though, the ladies seem like nice enough people to conduct themselves outside this bubble atmosphere. From what I've read on their bios, they all come from somewhat humble backgrounds and none of them ever really put off an 'I'm too good for you' vibe. Well ok, I can rethink that and y'all know what I mean but....still though, aside from their status as 'girlfriends,' they do seem like they would be friendly enough to strangers who approached them.

/Still hooked on this friggin' show.
//Yep, I admit it.

The sad thing is that Hef would *never* travel to Jamaica for Holly's sister's wedding. I'm shocked that Holly is leaving Puffin behind for long enough to go.
I like Kendra's mom and grandma. Instead of ignoring/shunning their girl because she made this choice, they make a big effort to still stay a big part of her life--being there for her birthday, parties, etc. That is one of the reasons Kendra is probably not as freaking nuts as Holly and Brigdet. That and the fact that this isn't her last shot at riches/fame.
I also think it says a lot that Hef even left his comfort zone to visit Kendra's home in San Diego (and I think he acted incredibly gracious), whereas he couldn't even be bothered to drive (well, ride in a rented limo with a Playboy magnet slapped on the door) one hour to the closest Melting Pot for his and Holly's five year anniversary. Like the poster above said, Hef sure seems to lavish a lot more real affection on Kendra than Holly. And I've noticed Kendra several times this season being rather possessive/purposely sweet towards Hef, almost as an affront to Holly.
One more thing: The wikipedia entry on the Girls Next Door is listing Bridget as married (separated). I know it was a rumor from the Izabella or Jill Ann book, but supposedly Sandmeier is her maiden name (it's Anastasia's last name) and Marquardt is her married name. Here's the link, for what it's worth. It could change any time.
The Married One

I suppose I'm reviving a dead rumor about Anastasia being Bridget's child, not sister...but if Sandmeier is Bridget's last name, shouldn't Anastasia--as the child of Bridget's mother and stepfather--have her stepfather's last name??

Didn't Holly "design" a "special" charm for the Scream 4 premier...a champagne bottle? Because that charm is now on sale for $19 at the playboy store.

Actually, I wonder if they're born-agains and disapprove of her so totally that they don't have anything to do with her? That would make sense...in families like that, it's usually the parents and grandparents who can't get over it (like when a child comes out of the closet) whereas the siblings are more accepting (but if they share the same beliefs, certainly wouldn't be popping up on an episode of TGND).

I don't know why everybody makes a big deal about Bridget being married, um, so is Hef! :)

I'm shocked as well.

If I had that body, I'd be naked every chance I got. I might even walk through the grocery store in the nude to show it off.

I have no idea why I am constantly sucked into watching this show. It's addictive. I'm innocently flipping the channels and the next thing I know it's a half hour later and I'm mentally debating with myself what sort of woman would be interested in being part of this trainwreck. I just can't stop watching.

I really like them as well. From what we've heard, had Kendra not become one of the girlfriends, she would have been a crystal meth-addicted stripper. In weighing the options, the mansion doesn't seem so bad to a mother. (And if the mom got some plastic surgery out of the deal? Even better!)

Exactly.

Don't get me wrong, if I lived in the Playboy Mansion you'd never see my family either. They'd still be in Ohio vaguely referring to the 'crazy one' who lives out West. They would sure as HELL never come to that place. But then, probably due to those exact values, I did not turn out as the sort of nutjob that thinks orgies with an 80 year old mysoginist is a good life plan.

It feels like people in bizarro mansion world would think its fine to have the fam over. What I do not understand, as the poster I have quoted above suggests, is how you are as weird as Holly but manage to keep your family out if it unless there is some secret we all don't know about.

I think Holly must be the spawn of a Yeti. Hence, the love of elk, the yeti suit and that fact we never see or hear about her fam.

She must be waxing to beat the band.

I bet that Holly will go to her sister's wedding, stay for 10 minutes, realize that she left Puffin alone with Kendra, and dash back!

Wouldn't it be great if Kendra took her place as alpha girl while she was away? Not that it's going to happen, simply because Kendra doesn't seem to be interested in the job, but, ahhhhhh.... I would LOVE to see that!

I think if Hef was 60 she might entertain #1 girl. She seems to be the one girl who has some genuine affection for him. It is more and more obvious to me that she is his favorite. I think she is just totally aware that dude is 80 and kicking it any second.

I just watched this episode and it was... ugh. It seemed more artificially happy than the other ones. I don't believe for a second that Holly loves to spend her Valentine's Day's with friends. Please.

And how many necklaces do these girls need? The only gifts they ever get around there are necklaces, lockets, charms, and socks.

I agree. I think it's nice that Kendra has that support system. I know it sounds sappy, but I think it's rather endearing that she's so close to them. Like when she was condo-shopping and declared that she needed her mom's opinion and if her mom doesn't like a condo, then she (Kendra) wouldn't even think of buying it. I don't know, it makes Kendra seem more human. Much more so than Bug Eyes or Disturbing Baby Voice Bridget.

I think it's cool that Kendra is close to her family, but her mom bothers me in the same way that the parents on that one show about porn stars did- she endorses her lifestyle to the point of being jealous and wanting to be a girlfriend herself. It's great that Kendra is no longer on drugs or a stripper, but she lives in a harem with a man 60 years her senior! Mom seems to not have a problem with that, even though it's horribly sketchy. As for her brother, he would look fine if he stopped wearing K-Fed junior clothing and dressed like a normal person in clothes that actually fit. He's hardly gansta, no matter how hard he tries to act that way.

I could see Anastasia having Bridget's maiden name if she is her daughter- based on Bridget saying she is 34, and Anastasia, being 19 or so, Bridget would have been in high school and not married yet when she had her. I can believe this one, too. Maybe doing the pink baby stuff as a fifteen year old mom made her never want to stop?

Waall, I'm no Hef apologist but I will say, I don't think he's a misogynmist. If he were, he wouldn't have his daughter (a very smart woman from all accounts) as the (CEO? President?) of Playboy, and he wouldn't have been monogamous in his marriages. (He's very insistent that he was, and no one has ever contradicted him.) I do think he has a somewhat self-serving and limited (and old-fashioned) view of sexuality, women and beauty but I do think he likes women.

Not to mention the clunka-clunka noise when it walks.

Plus, bigomy is illegal.
Would Holly volunteer to provide the entertainment at the bacheler party? Would she wear a bunny suit to the wedding? Oooh, so many possibilities!

Maybe she could get her sister a Playboy themed wedding dress. I'm sure Bridget's got one stashed away with all her other costumes.

I'm imagining a white dress with little pink PB bunnies appliqued all over.

Yep, that's pretty much what I was thinking. Maybe with some cute little bunny ears instead of a veil.

I wonder if Holly's sister is as unfortunate looking as Holly was before the Steffaniplasty?

I'm sure she's "designing" the sister a charm.


Anyone catch the dollar signs in the costume shop owner's eyes when Bridget walked in?

Honestly, how sad is your life when all it really contains is a dog that was cuter as a puppy, a cat that hates your guts, and a closet full of costumes?

Ah, but don't forget you have to sex it up a bit first, a la Jackie Ho and Marie Antoniette.

New to this forum. I have some questions after reviewing about 30 past pages and doing a google search.

Is Hef separated, divorced or still married to his second wife? According to my google search, he is divorced, but according to several posters here, he is still married. There was an article from E! news that he was seriously considering marrying Holly, so him still being married after all these years is puzzling.

Does Hef have 4 or 5 kids? Each website bio lists a different number. Then there is the ambiguous palimony suit by his former girlfriend, Carrie.

Back to show, aside from Kendra's unusual laugh, I have always found her to be the most down to earth and funny. Her comment about her butt after horse back riding made Mr. Snuffles and I giggle for days.

The panty tree is very white trash, especially in an upscale ski resort like Vail. I know during Spring break (in Florida), my friends and I ran into some trouble with the local authorities after we strung up all the guys' (on our trip) underwear on the balcony. I can imagine, the only reason they did not get into trouble was b/c they were being filmed. I am sure it was taken down instanteously after filming stopped.

I think that's true of his marriage to Kimberly but I thought it was well known that he cheated on Mildred (in all fairness, she cheated on him as well)?

Edited to add: By this I mean he was monogamous to Kimberly until they broke up. We all know they are still married.

I would think a playboy wedding dress would have the bodice sort of shaped like the rabbit logo in sequins or something- imagine a halter dress with with the straps made of bunny ears, with the face of the bunny wrapping around one boob. I don't know if that makes sense at all, but that's how I see it. Something tacky, cheap, and skanky all at once! It's the Playboy merchandise trifecta!



He refers to women as 'bunnies' or 'playmates', quite degrading terms, speaks only of women in terms of looks, sexual performance, and dates a harem while forbidding them to have any social contact with other males. I'd say he qualifies. He probably has Christie run the company for two reasons: he knows she's smarter than he is, and to evade this exact type of accusation.

I imagine it similarly, except the ears are what covers the breasts.

He is still married. This is speculative, but I believe that he remains legally married to Kimberly because he is worried that Christie would cut her out of the will, or even her half-brothers.

4 claimed children. Christie and David from his first wife in the 50s, and Marston and Cooper from his second wife in the 90s.

And because his son David wants nothing to do with him.

I was watching the S1 episode with Kendra's birthday on DVD (shut up, I got it cheap on eBay) and when Kendra is shown saying goodbye to her family, on the commentary she and Bridget start this big conversation about how much they love seeing their families and how sad they always are to say goodbye. Holly doesn't say one word throughout this conversation, but then right at the end she suddenly blurts out "I don't like to hug my family because I get embarrassed because I have boobs." WTF? And the others weren't even talking about that, they were just saying it's sad to say goodbye to family.

Whoever asked about the rumoured new tell-all -- there's a poster on the E! boards who claims to have been one of the Mansion regulars (one of the girls who go out with Hef and the girls and are invited to 'sex nights' but aren't girlfriends), and she posted that she was working on a book with a former girlfriend, I think the one Izabella mentioned was thrown out for sleeping with a butler. Pinch of salt and all that, but the poster has been on the E! board for a while and seems to be considered legit by the people over there (who are pretty PB obsessive), because of things she's posted before.

BTW, Bridget is/was married, and her husband Chad runs her clothing line. I don't know if they're legally separated or what. He has or had some wedding photos on his MySpace. Her maiden name is Sandmeier, which is also her brother's name. However, it is not Anastasia's surname. I'm not going to post her surname because of privacy and all that, but she has her father's (Bridget's stepfather's) surname, not Marquardt or Sandmeier. The reason she's listed on IMDB as Anastasia Sandmeier is my fault because I submitted that as her surname by mistake, and now they won't correct it. My bad. :(

Yeah, you never even hear Holly on the phone with her family. We've seen Kendra and Bridget on the phone with their moms/grandmas a few times, but never Holly. I'd buy the "my family lives far away" excuse if it wasn't for that.

Holly's sister is probably holding the wedding in Jamaica so Hef WON'T come and creepily upstage her on her wedding day. Truth be told, it's what I'd do. Ain't nobody getting in my limelight when it's my turn to go down the aisle...

You know how you can know something but you don't really *think* about it until you see it in print? I just read that and realized his kids are forty years apart. That's kinda gross. My parents were born in the 50s and stopped having kids in the 80s.



Does anyone know the story on this? I've heard that they don't speak but never really heard why.

As for Christie, I guess I figured that since she was inovlved with Playboy maybe she was alright with Hef's life but I guess not if she'd really cut out his wife and kids. That's kind of mean. It's not their fault that they were born to the situation they were born to. I suppose I could kind of understand if it was the woman her father had left her mother for or something to that effect but it was four decades later, maybe it's time to bury that alleged hatchet. If that's even the case.

He doesn't refer to women--that is, all women--as bunnies or playmates, those are specific terms with specific job descriptions within the Playboy world. And the "harem" is not forbidden social contact with any other males--they just can't sleep with them. We all saw Kendra et al. with Shaun the snowboarder. Sure, it's a contract. It's certainly not on I would agree to, and obviously it serves Hef as well as anyone. But I do not see in Hef "I hate women--I hate those bitches." Misogyny is a pretty strong term--I would say Hef is sexist, or old-fashioned. Anyone who supports abortion rights the way he does is not a misogynist, IMO. YMMV.

Maybe because Hef pretty much called his first wife(Christie and David's momma) a whore in interviews and he never had time for his children when they were young.

I'm watching the Valentine's episode and just finished with the snowboard episode... and wow... Kendra is looking amazing with the new hair! She's less fake and bake and the natural looking blonde with the streaks makes her look... dare I say it... gorgeous.

Now it's Holly's turn to get good hair.

I think the commercials that play during this show are interesting sometimes. I'm watching the show right now (and hating myself for it) and they played this ad for the ENVY girls work out video. I don't know if you guys know anything about this DVD, but I took a class about pop culture and women's bodies this summer and one woman in the class did a presentation on workout videos and this was one. It's four models who are playing the part of trainers. Poorly. Some of the "exercises" they show are actually kind of dangerous and/or useless. Basically, it's just a bunch of scantily clad models bouncing around pretending to work out. The advertisers don't think people are buying this DVD for the work out any more than they read Playboy for the articles!


But about the show itself: it's so strange. I don't see any kind of attraction between Hef and the girls. At all. I mean, you'd never guess all of the Sex Night shenanigans actually take place if you've only seen the grandfatherly pecks and the way Hef usually seems to wander off almost immediately afterward.

I'm in the process of watching the Valentine's Day ep. I couldn't wait to post. Some thoughts:

-I like Kendra's darker hair. She just looks more sophisticated...err..less trashy.
-The whole Wednesday-Duke doggie love affair thing. HOW THE F' OLD ARE YOU, HOLLY AND BRIDGET??? My 3yo daughter doesn't even act that juvenille.
-Hef's bedroom is just so cluttered and it looks dusty. blech.
-Holly invites others to the party at Trader Joes's. Why pretend you even want other girls around, Holly? I'd have more respect for you if you weren't so fake.
-Mary's face during Holly's wedding discussion was perfect. I'm waiting for her to say, "Hasn't Hef told you yet Holly...him and I are already married."
-I like that Kendra is always running around in very casual clothes, no makeup, and her hair up in a ponytail. It's a very "I don't give an F" attitude that the other two girls don't have. The other two are running around in high heels and full faces of makeup 24/7 just to get Hef's attention.
-I like Bridget's hair in the Mardi Gras costume scene. She can have great hair sometimes.
-Bridget, come clean, you're not 34. You know it, we know it. It's ok babydoll, we all get old.
-As Blush and Bashful as Bridget's room is, she keeps it clean.

Even sadder, she only claims to be 33. She won't be "34" until September!

I'd much rather look good for 40 than haggard for 33, but to each her own, I guess!

Is there any way to find out someone's real age? I know it's a Hollywood thing to lie, but is there some record of actual age? I'd love to know how old the GND actually are.

Kendra probably is 21, but I really, really don't think Holly is 26. More like 30. If she is 26, she would have become #1 girlfriend at 20 or 21, based on her five year anniversary. So she would have started 'dating' HH at 20? It doesn't seem to add up. Her face, even pre-surgery, looks far older than she says. Bridget is probably under 40, but not by much.

So, my bets for real age would be:
Kendra-21
Holly-30
Bridget-38

What does everyone else think? If I were a gambler, I'd make an over/under or a spread or something, but I'm not.

I think that Holly did become the main girlfriend pretty quickly, only because that other one was leaving. Mentally? I think they're all about 4 1/2.

The weirder timeline to me is Kendra's. If getting w/Hef "saved" her from stripping, and she became a girlfriend at 18, how long was she a stripper? Don't you have to be 18 to do that anyway? I don't know, maybe it's different in California. I always thought that was weird...she was a stripper for like 2 months and then was a painted girl, and then a girlfriend? Anyone know?

Now that really would have been a snub! :)

(FYI, Trader Joe's is the grocery store. Trader Vic's is the restaurant.)

I just read the Tell-All book by Jill Ann. Thank god it was all posted on a website because if I had bought it, I would have gone back and asked for a refund. I liked Izabella's book a lot more, and she seemed much more intelligent if not a little bit annoying. Jill Ann did not seem very likeable, and way too desperate, although her story does tell another point of view. I feel like she didn't really have the right to write the tell all because she was never part of the group, just some wanna be who Hef obviously did not want. She couldn't make it as a playboy model (even though a cyber girl is still really impressive), or anything else famous, so she decided to write a book instead. Ugh, she was so pretentious.

I loved the look on Hef's face when Holly talked about their wedding! And I cracked up at that Dog carriage ride and automatically wondered what everyone on the forums would think. It seems to me that they are starting to show the girls true colors.