Does anybody else think the constant emphasis on childish stuff (Disney characters, Bridget's pink Barbie Dream Bedroom, etc.) is all calculated to play into a fantasy of Hef's where all of these girls are underage? That's my take on it. I don't honestly think they'd choose to live surrounded by all the cutesey crap if they were on their own and dating a guy their own age. I know the kind of adult women who choose to live surrounded by Mickey, Tigger and Pooh and they are usually 250 lbs, work as medical transcriptionists and worship Oprah. Holly and Bridget just don't fit the profile.

Stranger things have happened than Holly procreating with Hef...didn't Tony Curtis father children well into his 70s or 80s? Wasn't that him?

Taira, I agree with you there. It seems like Hef thinks he runs some kind of kinky boarding school. And in Bridget's case, it seems particularly disturbing, not only because of her age, but because she has that weird cartoonish voice, which is why a part of me suspects that she may have been molested as a little girl.

And while Tony Curtis (and I think Charlie Chapman?) fathered children into old age, I'm pretty sure that in Hef and Holly's case, they're never going to get pregnant. Mostly because buttsex does not result in procreation. That, and if his sperm are as old as he is, they'd take 4 weeks to find where they're supposed to go, and they'd have their blinker on the whole way.

I buy it with Bridget, just because she seems all sorts of messed up. I've seen women who are as pretty as she is with all sorts of frou-frou pink crap around.

With Holly... I don't know what her deal is. She's messed up but in a different way than Bridget. Holly's like the mean middle school girl, and Bridge strikes me as an innocent childlike type.

I think it's all part of Hef's attempt to buy into that he's younger than he is.

To me, Bridget's love of all things childish seems genuine. Like I could honestly seeing decorating her apartment in pink PeptoBismol type crap and thinking it's absolutely normal. Now I'm in my early twenties and think Hello Kitty is adorable, but a stuffed animal and a cool pen is where I draw the line. It doesn't feel "normal" to me to enjoy those things while an adult.

In Jill-Ann's book did she change the names of Holly, Bridget and Kendra? If so, to what?

Kendra wasn't there at the time of Jill Ann's stay. She changed the names of Holly and Bridget, but once the show aired, she switched them back to their real names. I don't know what she had their aliases listed as in her original book, because I only read the "Holly and Bridget" version.

Can you just imagine these girls taking on the flavor of love/charm school girls? Who do you think would win that one?

I noticed during the baking scene that Bridget's baby voice vanished when she got irritated. I guess its not easy to fake it all the time.

I am deeply disturbed after reading Jill Ann's blog yesterday. She is clearly a whack job and her boyfriend might as well have been named Howard K. but man, Holly has the worst job I could possibly think of. She should be featured on Dirty Jobs.

Also, the girl the Kendra's bro was talking to kind of reminded me of Kip Dynamite's girlfriend Lafaunda!

She does worse than that. She lists them with their full names and the show name, e.g. "Holly Madison - the Girls Next Door". As in, "I didn’t want to get my hair wet and Kelly diffused the situation by asking if Holly Madison - The Girls Next Door had a hair clip. Holly Madison - The Girls Next Door gave me one, and I thanked her over and over again. Holly Madison - The Girls Next Door was near the sink with a stack of hand towels, and she was soaking them in water and wringing them out before placing them in a bowl."

I assume it's been done that way to pick up on Google searches. It is annoying and breaks the flow every time it appears.

I think you may be thinking of Tony Randall (Odd Couple) who was rumored to play for the other team, so people were rather shocked when he married and procreated so late in life.

Personally, I think prostitution should be legalized and figure what consenting adults choose to do is their business. I wouldn't want to be in the same situation as the GND since I really value controlling my own life to the degree to which I can control it (well short of paying taxes, insurance and working, etc), but they seem to be doing it of their own free will so to each his or her own.

That must be new. When I read it several months ago, she simply had it as Holly, no last name, no Girls Next Door label.

OMG! That was really bizarre and sadly made Kendra's attempt to "get her brother laid" seem very normal.

I'm in the minority but I really like Bridget. I'm not real sure why but I do. I also really like Kendra and I thought she looked amazing with the new hair. I cannot stand Holly, though. I don't know if she was getting a better editing in the past or if she's just recently become so bitchy but enough. She's suddenly thinks she royalty and she better save the castle dream for her next man.

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I love this show and everyone on it, but would it be too much to ask that Bridget and Holly stop saying, "Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay," whenever they have a lukewarm reaction to something?

Best of all, Jill Ann or her "editor" (sorry, couldn't say that with a straight face) executed a clumsy find/replace, so that you get sentences like "When I was growing up, I dreamed about becoming a star in Holly Madison - The Girls Next Doorwood."

I can't believe how good Kendra looks with her new haircolor. Also, was one of the blondes at Hef's oh-so-romantic Valentine's dinner Sara(h), the girl Kendra dated -- er, taught to play softball to "bond" -- in the first season?



Love.

I'm just wondering. Was that girl who helped Kendra organize her room the girl who was on Growing Pains that Kirk Cameron had fired once he found out that she had posed for Playboy? Because she looked like she'd been rode hard & put up wet, ya know what I mean. She's certainly aged significantly in the last 15 years.

I think so...she was doing stand-up comedy on another episode too, right? The one where they went all suspiciously mental for Arby's?

Yes, that was Julie.



Hey, her colors are blush and bashful. Pink is her signature color.

Yo colors are pank and pank.

I just cant read this thread with coffee anymore! Too dangerous.

Bwah! Love it!

It really is the only time he leaves the house anymore. Fun!

Is one of the harem ladies Mandy Bentley? They never seem to reshow the Playboy Club audition episode anymore, so I'm not sure.

Anyone else notice in the Mardi Gras party clips there was an oh-so-brief shot of of the porno girl who is 100% supported by her parents? Sunny or Bunny something....anyway, I noticed because I brought ol' girl up many pages back.

Sunday's episode was by FAR the most ridiculous one ever ... and they're all pretty damn ridiculous.

The best part was when they were playing dominos at the mansion. I had to do a double take ... were they in a nursing home???????? God, their life with Hef is sad, sad, sad. They picked it.

I think so, too. The odd thing is that a former girlfriend, Tiffany Holiday, also had a pink fetish. I don't know if she had the room that Bridget's in now, but it was also decorated in head-to-toe pink with pink stuffed animals, pink throws, pillows, a closet stocked full of pink hooker boots, and a pink bassinet that held a baby spider monkey by the name of Pinky. Because she loved pink.

So, the love of pink: is it something Hef finds attractive and seeks in a woman? Do women know this preference and mold themselves accordingly? Or are the type of women who have a pink fetish more likely to pursue the role of beta girlfriend to Hugh Hefner?

Those women are probably the easiest for Hef to attract and control.

Bridget is so childlike and probably easy to please (I'm not talking sexually), which probably appeals to Hef. She gets a sugar daddy out of Hef, perhaps to make up for her own crappy father or for having a father who indulged her so much. Win win!

This is just me with my armchair psychologist hat on.

Good point on the pink observation, why do all these girls love pink so much? Do they think it makes others view them as 'younger' or something, like say, 12?

Another observation: Did anyone happen to catch a glance at that putrid pink carpet in Bridget's room last night? From my television, it appeared to be COVERRED in stains! My friend nearly puked when he saw the stains and was like "EWW gross!" I mean, surely they can afford to change or steamclean the carpet from time to time? ESPECIALLY if you know that you are being filmed and that everything will be aired on national television!

Also, what was with the skit on taking the two dogs out for a 'romantic' carriage ride? Notice that Holly used the gift Bridget gave her as the blanket for the dogs to use? I'd be a little peeved if I went to visit my friend and she was using the blanket that I had made especially for her, as a dog blanket. -- Life at the mansion must be so boring that they had to film the girls driving their dogs around in a golf cart. :P

I think the show would be so much more interesting if they filmed it from a 'Real World' type viewpoint, complete with catfights and random hookups. :P

How many dogs does Holly have?
Kendra?

Do these dogs ever get to go outside and run around?

The show makes it seem like they're cooped up in the skank's, oops I mean girls' rooms all freaking day!
Kendra's room has to be particularly rank. She has at least two dogs right? Plus she's kind of pig when it comes to cleaning.
Her carpet must be saturated with urine!

I think Kendra has two and Holly has... three (Duke, Duchess, and Harlow are all that came to mind)? I'm not sure about that, though.
I think the dogs get to go outside. I remember one episode where one of the girls went to get her dogs out of a fenced area outside the mansion; it looked like a sort of play area for them. So I think the dogs go out there during the day. Maybe the girls only bring them up to their rooms when they are at home and doing things indoors.
It seems to me that the pets at the mansion have a pretty good life.

I wonder about Bridget's cat. I never see that cat outside the room.

"Yo colors are pank and pank."


This is why I come to this forum. You ROCK, higgledy74.


I can't believe I didn't think of this before but...didn't Anna Nicole Smith die around Valentine's Day? They completely glossed over her!

I LOVED it when Kendra's mom mentioned that she wanted to see Dr. Rey for her plastic surgery. I would love to see that E! Reality crossover.

I think a part of it, is that Playboy promotes the "pink, white, and black" colors in their merchandise. If you ever go to a Spencer Gifts store in the mall, you will see that 95% of their merchandise is pink with another color. I also think these women mold themselves so that they too will like these colors. However, I am a lover of all things pink, so it's hard for me to tell whether or not their love of this color is genuine. I really can't picture Bridget decked out in all black, she's just too bubbly for that kind of thing.

Lila, I would pay to see that. lol! What does Kendra's mom do for a living? What is her actual name? I guess I'm just wondering how she'll pay for a facelift. Does Hef foot the bill for relative's surgeries too?

Last night I caught the Valentine's Day/Mardi Gras episode. What the hell was Kendra's brother wearing when he arrived at the Mansion? Ewww.

Speaking of eww... The "gold" Playboy jewelry in the Girls' V-D gift pack. Nasty! I can get the same shit for $4 at the flea market. Their gifts (as if you can even call them gifts) from "Hef" were incredibly cheap and tacky. For all the years that Holly has managed the bowl and washcloth system, that is how she is repaid? A wrinkled pink shirt, some dime-store gold, and a non-intimate early dinner at Trader Vics. (Props to Holly for getting the other two a thoughtful piece of jewelry in an expensive looking case.)


Looks like she has already had something done. Guess Kendra paid for it with DVD royalities? She probably bought the mother that fancyschmancy black SUV she rolled up in as well. Hopefully, Kendra didn't waste her money on her brother's outfit.

The Mansion is such a crowded dump. How long has Mary worked in her 'Flowers in the Attic' office? There is no space! She's got to use an ex-skanks bed as a table.

I kept waiting for someone to ask, "are drinks and appetizers still happy-hour half price since it's only 4:30?"

Heh heh heh! V-D gift pack. ***snickers like Beavis and Butthead*** I guess it's appropriate. lol!

How classy! I figured Kendra would have requested that.

Dirty!!!!!! Oh, someone beat me to it. Oh well, still dirty!!!!!! And funny!

I wouldn't be overly surprise if it had to be early so people who are really in love, weren't interrupted by the cameras later in the evening. But then again, it could be to coincide with Hef's meds.

Re: The pink theories

When I was sipping on my Diet Pepsi and waiting for my minute rice to cook, I started to think about all the points raised on the board if the pink was for Hef’s benefit or if the girls really have such immature tastes (not to say that pink can’t be done in an adult fashion because it can). I think it may be that Hef really is into underage girls. Because why else would he be so insistent on power muffs? I mean Playboy was one of the first publications to feature Brazilian waxed ladies, right? A friend and I were talking about the pros and cons to going bare down there a few months ago and she did it for a fella and after he saw it he kinda said “It looks cool but at the same time, I feel kinda wrong because it doesn’t look like you’ve hit puberty yet.”

I may be off, but didn't Izabella say in Bunny Tales that Hef liked the girls to have "young-looking" rooms and things? I can't remember, but that would make sense. I don't think it was forced on them, but that's what he preferred.

I like being waxed and know plenty of guys who like the waxed look/feeling and they aren't pedophiles or into underage fantasies.

If Hef were into underage girls, he would want them as flat as a board and Holly and Bridget would be outta there; they don't look illegal at all. Kendra's face is much more youthful, so she'd probably get to stay. I don't think he'd be as fond of Marilyn Monroe if that were true.

Plus they probably had to get there before 5pm to qualify for the Early Bird Special. I hope Hef got his senior citizen discount too.

Most likely, not all of those dogs are cat-friendly. I think that shows Bridget's good sense.

Well, from what we see on the show, maybe the dogs should fear the cat...

Seriously, I know the editors love to dub in growls for Gizzy everytime she's onscreen, but that seems like the meanest damned cat! All she seems to do is hide from Bridget and sit up in her tree looking pissed off. And I doubt she's ever made peace with Wednesday.
I'd keep that thing behind closed doors as much as possible too. Not just because it's a bitchy cat, but because the Playboy mansion seems to mainly be a dog playground anyway.

Yes, and worst of all.... because these are her wedding colors. Since when was clear a color, and how exactly does one incorporate that into their wedding palette?

Bwah! Saran Wrap bridesmaid dresses? I'll have to remember that when it's time to plan my wedding.

I think I'm in love with all the posters in this forum. The snark just really writes itself thanks to the gloriously campy show that is GND, but I still give kudos.

Is this for the pretend wedding she might stage with Bridgette on another boring afternoon?

Cause Lord knows it will be hard to sneak that stuff in to a house she is locked out of because this will all be taking place between her and some leftover sloppy second Octegenarian friend of Hef's after he kicks it. No way in hell Hef is marrying her. Kimberly Conrad or whatever her name is, you know his actual legal wife, not to mention his host of handlers, will never let it happen.

I saw so much genuine affection between he and Kendra this last episode. Holly should be afraid, very afraid.

Kendra seemed sweet in this episode- telling her mom she didn't need surgery, and trying to find her brother a girlfriend. As ditzy as she is, she doesn't seem fake, unlike Bridget and Holly. And her Mardi Gras outfit was awesome! If I had her body, I'd definitely wear that to a party.

I wonder if Holly watches the show when it airs and notices how incredibly unconvincing she is saying how she doesn't mind sharing V-Day with his other girlfriends and random other people as well. Her thrill about Playboy related gifts is quite forced as well. If my boyfriend/sugardaddy/senile crypt keeper had the money that hers does, and we had been living together for five years, I would expect something thoughtful and personal, or if not that, expensive. All of their gifts just show that HH doesn't care about them as people, only possessions. The same gifts for everyone from the chintzy catalogue, a single rose for his anniversary- I have gotten far more thoughtful gag gifts from people I barely know!