Which explains how "delighted" she was to watch a documentary on the 1933 worlds fair! Which I am sure Hef actually attended -- with a date. Does Hef even realize that there are actual programs, movies, and tv shows produced after 1947?

Hee! And their resumes would read like this:
2003-present, Semen Receptacle, contract position, Playboy Enterprises, Los Angeles, CA
Duties: Act as stand-in for kleenex or trash can as needed. Currently being trained as back-up penis swabber.

IvySpice

A well-worded post and I agree. But alas, I will still totally be watching.

The best part of the episode for me was Kendra's comment about her ass never being so sore.

Something about Bridget is starting to scream "I was molested as a child!" to me. The whole oversexed nature of the mansion aside, I think it's just her cartoon-y little girl voice. Lady, you are almost 40. Get a smoker's hack like a real woman.

I don't think Bridget has exhibited an "intellectual streak." Sure, she received a master's in communications, but she's priming herself for the entertainment industry, not debating Kant or delving into neuroscience. (Not that there's anything wrong with her degree at all, but she's such a weird woman-child with her costumes and baby talk, and she doesn't seem any smarter than Holly. Both of them are deluded IMO, but in different ways.)

Then again, a moss-covered rock looks like an intellectual compared to Kendra.

Bridget has an MA in communications from what seems like a 3rd-rate (or worse) school. I'm sure she didn't have to write and defend a thesis, or do any original research. It's not difficult to get a college degree without being intelligent. She sure as shit doesn't act like she has the brains god gave a rock. That said, she is likely more intelligent than her companions, but that's not difficult.

YES!!!! And the way he was pretending to lick that lollipop was just gross and disturbing...



This is right on...Holly does always look like she is forcing a smile for the cameras, and would much rather have Hef (and run of the house) all to herself.

I am dying to know what Hef's wife Kimberly thinks of all of this...especially since the show has started. I know they're not divorced, and she must have some feelings about Holly putting the full court press on Hef for a ring and a baby.

A friend of mine sent me this:
http://www.tvguide.com/News-Views/Intervie...4-120370137CB4}

Kendra's line about "ridden hard and put away wet" was irony at it's best for all of us here.

She must love it. GND = more $$$$ for the ailing empire = more money for her boys (if Christine doesn't fuck them over) = not having to rub baby oil on his old dick. It's all win-win for Kimberly

I know HH has said repeatedly said that he was monogamous during the ten (?) years he and Kimberly were married, but before that, did he also have a harem? Or is the harem a break-up/rebound thing? In as much as such a filthy, misogynistic man whore is possible to care about being on the rebound.

I'm very conservative when it comes to throwing the 'must've been molested' charge around but I have to agree about Bridget. It's just not normal the way she acts. If that were all there was I'd be wondering but also could see that as her schtick and it's worked for her so she's still doing it. I could see that being true without any dark past. But.....

For Hef's birthday her present was to jump out of a cake, nudity and all, and she practiced it in front of her stepfather, who liked it very much. There is not a father alive (or stepfather) who feels 'fatherly' toward his daughter who could have stood there and drooled over their daughter jumping nude out of a cake for some old guy's birthday. Stepdad wasn't uncomfortable at all, he was completely inappropriate with her.

Put those two things together -- her juvenile mannerisms that scream sexualized child-woman and her stepdad's weird attitude toward watching her do the porny thing, and I think there's a problem here.

That said I think Bridget is beautiful and has a beautiful woman's body without implants. Holly looks soooo old for her age -- it's her hair, her make-up, her clothing...they are just so old for a woman in her mid-twentites. And Kendra doesn't look like any twenty-one year old to me. Their bodies are great, don't get me wrong, but their faces and hair and clothing combine to make them seem so much older than they are. They don't scream youth to me, they scream 'thirties' to me. Oh well. They're not me, so whatever. :-)

I think Hef had one girlfriend at a time before he married Kimberley. I could be wrong, but it seems like Barbi Benton was Hef's one and only while they were together. The multiple girlfriends thing started post-KC (or became a publicity stunt then, anyway).

From Wikipedia:

After his separation from Conrad, Hefner began living with an ever-changing number of women, ranging in age from 18 to 28. He told Vanity Fair: "And here's the surprise bit—it's what they want!" Soon, Hefner assembled another coterie of girlfriends: Sandy and Mandy Bentley (twins), Jessica Paisley, and Brande Roderick who had the distinction of being the primary girlfriend.

I don't think it's fair to say that her step-dad was comfortable with her jumping out of a cake. The guy knew he was on camera, and knew that reality shows try their hardest to create drama. He may have chosen not to show his discomfort. Or, he may have flinched but he wasn't being filmed at that second. Bridget was on camera more than he was. The scene was more about Bridget than about her family.

I respectfully disagree. Stepdad was getting turned on by Bridget's striptease. He was practically drooling

On a much lighter note, I want the shirt Kendra had on while they were opening gifts in the bedroom! Air-brushed with Kdog on the front. I had that name first, Kendra!

I think it says "K-Dub", which she uses as a nickname, sincec her last name is Wilkinson. So, no worries! You're still the only Kdog I know.



I think that what I respect about Bridget is not necessarily her intelligence or the prestige of her degrees, but rather that she, unlike Holly and Kendra, aspires to continue her education despite being handed everything she needs, financially, by Hef for the time being. Not everyone has the brains to get degrees from the top universities in the country, but I definitely respect people who aspire to keep learning more. Don't get me wrong--I don't think she's a brain trust, by any means. However, no matter where her degrees come from and what they're in, they'll show up on a resume as what she was doing when she was at the mansion. Holly and Kendra will have big fat holes in their resumes (massage school excepted) when (and if) they get kicked out and try to get a job.

This is quite true, I'll give her that. Do you think that she will have success after H&H get married, though? I think her appearing on the show may be detrimental to any real career, but she will be in a better position education wise, compared to K&H. Although she should focus more on education by not attempting to skip an exam so she could get her picture taken naked while rubbing on her boyfriend's other girlfriends.

Well that was a boring episode! The only thing that was really notable is how unhappy Holly seems. Her laughter and smiles are so forced whenever she isn't around Hef. And when she is around Hef, unless she's receiving his full attention, her smiles go back to the strained, false kind. I couldn't believe how transparently uncomfortable she was when he was opening gifts from the women who live at the playmate house. I know she chooses her situation, but I almost feel bad for her. Despite her best efforts to clone herself into Hef's perfect woman, she still lives with the daily insecurity of being in love with a married man who happens to also have two other girlfriends, one of whom I am finding it easier and easier to believe she hates.

I loved this -- Holly's response to someone leaking info from the mansion.

I'd love to know who this "mansion source" is at the New York Post, because it’s someone among us and they're wrong. [Laughs]

You just KNOW this is bugging her, being the 'Queen Bee' of the mansion, and she's DYING to run and tell Puffin' who to fire, when and if she finds out.

Did Bridgets voice over for that commerical make anyone crave cupcakes, especially red velvet? The voice over may have sucked but after hearing that I was craving so much that I went and made my own cupcakes! haha.

On Kendra's myspace it says that she wants to be married with kids before she is 24... riiiite. I LOVED her birthday episode! She is so cute and has so much character, even her laugh. It might be glass shattering but for some reason it suits her. Those grills were gross though, but once again, they show that she has character and is not just another robot.

That strip tease thing really got me too. It was innappropriate for her to do it in front of her parents in the first place... but really, her stepfather could have left the room at least had the courtesy to look uncomfortable.

What happens in a few years when Holly gets old and wrinkly?

Hef will be blind or dead, so it's moot.

"Did Bridgets voice over for that commerical make anyone crave cupcakes, especially red velvet? The voice over may have sucked but after hearing that I was craving so much that I went and made my own cupcakes!"

A few months ago while visiting So Cal, I drove over an hour to go to Sprinkles, and then stood in line for an hour. All because of this show! Let me tell you, those are THE BEST cupcakes I have ever had. The red velvets in particular were amazing. They have a wonderful subtle cream cheese frosting that makes grown men cry. Their cupcakes and icing aren't overly sweet, which is just fine with me. Looks like they're expanding, so maybe they'll come to a location near each of us.

http://www.sprinklescupcakes.com/locations.html

$36/dozen? Yikes. I can buy a whole lotta Betty Crocker for that price and still be able to give twenty bucks to a local food bank.

My dad calls my son K-dog.





She's looking for some NFL/NBA player to be her baby daddy so she can continue her gold diggin' ways.

I was reading back through the older posts on Kendra and Bridget's Yahoo groups, and they are pretty interesting. Back in the early days of the show, they both answered a lot more fan questions and were way more detailed in their replies (I don't think Kendra really answers any at all these days). Kendra told one guy that she only dated black guys before Hef. Someone else asked if her boobs were real and she said "Yeah.... real FAKE!" and continued to spill that they're 34c, she saved up $5000 for them herself as a teen and had implant surgery at 18. She also said that she used to be on drugs (already hinted at on the show) and was a runaway, but then she "cleaned up" and became a dental hygienist (which she also said on the show, and someone here I think speculated that's code for "stripper," haha). A fan in the group told her that she would look better if she didn't "plump" her lips, and Kendra went off and told them she'd like to meet them and plump their lips with her fist (all right then). She also went into detail about the Audra/Carmella bday gift incident, saying that Audra tried to blame the incident on the butlers and get them fired. She said that Hef wouldn't let them say in the episode that Audra was the one who stole the gifts, because it would make Playboy look bad.
As for Bridget's replies, I can't remember many specifics except that she wrote paragraphs and paragraphs about how fans at the E! boards make up "lies" about her (I think she was referring to the husband rumors, which I thought had now mostly been confirmed as true; and also another rumor that she has a child, which I don't believe is true) and how much it hurt her feelings and kept her up at night. She mentioned that she had bit parts in the movies Intolerable Cruelty (maybe where her Clooney obsession started?) and Confidence, which I didn't know. Several posts were devoted to bitching about the former girlfriends and what "selfish bad seeds" they had been. Oh, and she also said that she was a medical assistant for eight years.

Was she one of the girls jumping on the bed with the Grandpa from the GILMORE GIRLS while he wore a train conductor hat?

I've never seen the movie, so I don't know. On IMDb she is listed as "Santa Fe Tart" (hee).

I agree. The guy was CLAPPING. He was two steps away from sticking a dollar bill in her g-string.

Speaking of people who shouldn't be drooling over Bridget- Keith Hefner! After horseback riding, he was leering like a complete perv, as he always does when hanging out with his brother's girlfriends. I know they're more whores than girlfriends, but still, Hugh claims to love them. I would not want my sister leering and being lecherous at any boyfriend of mine. All more evidence for my theory that women=property and sex toys in the mind of HH.


Yeah, I just bet that's what they wanted. Everyone wants to bang a senile old man and share him with a half dozen girls. Do you think Hugh (still refuse to call him Hef) ever admits to himself that they are only with him b/c he's rich and famous, and no one would give him the time of day otherwise?

I recall Kendra saying that she was going to massage school. Did my brain confuse her with someone else (which is entirely possible)?

Which episode are they on? I have seen what I thought were 3 new episodes...The Christmas one, The one where they make a work out video and the New years eve one, but A few posters have said they are only on their second episode of the new season. I'm confused. Are one of the ones I mentioned from last season?

No. They showed her at massage school in Season 1, I believe.



The workout video is from last season. The Christmas one is the first episode of this season, and the New Year's Eve/horseback riding is the second.

The workout video was actually from last season.

Thanks bmb654 and Lyssbobiss! I don't know how I missed that episode from last season.

Anyone else notice on the TV Guide interview that when the girls were asked about each other's best and worst qualities, Bridget "couldn't think of" a worst for Holly because they are "so much alike?" Riiiiiiiight. You're not trying to get kicked out is what it is.

Holly's best quality (in PB terms): lack of shame, inhibitions
Holly's worst quality (should be in Bridget's eyes): bitch won't raise up off Hef!

ETA: Also funny that for the calendar, Holly is May and December.

COlor me confused about the new episodes as well.

I've only seen the Christmas one - which is the premiere, correct?

My Comcast said that the first episode was supposed to be Holly's Marie Antoniette themed birthday party, and they are saying that the second one is titled "May The Farce Be With You".

Ah, but Sprinkles is no mere Betty Crocker, trust me on this. The Girls may have overall bad taste, but they're right on the money about Sprinkles!

I've never heard of Sprinkles...is that like Magnolia based out of NYC? Because those Magnolia cupcakes look like pure heaven....and I've only seen them in pictures.

Ohmigawd. I am dying.

My local cable provider also gave similar incorrect information regarding the contents of the first two episodes--actually, both episode descriptions mentioned the Marie Antoinette-themed party and obviously, both were inaccurate. I'm assuming that we'll be seeing stuff in a non-linear fashion this season? Anybody know if past seasons were this way?

I'm not huge on cupcakes but dammit, I want one too. It's all about the frosting. If it doesn't taste all cheap, overly sugary and like it's from a crappy grocery store bakery, it's all good. I know, I know, some people just love grocery-store pastries etc. and some stores really kick out awesome product. However, in the land of Kroger, their cakes and miscellaneous frosted crap is just that--crap.

Interesting on the TVGuide article. I've mentioned before that I don't get a super I-Hate-You vibe from any of the girls but then again, when are you ever asked point-blank about what characteristics you don't like in a person when that person is sitting across the table? Just makes for an awkward situation. But also, I'm sure the girls do 'group interviews' with frequency so these kinds of questions are probably commonplace. Yes, it's softball stuff but I don't expect to hear Kendra wax philosophic on global warming or stem-cell research.

Re: Kendra's Massage School
Here's an idea--if she could somehow incorporate some kind of karate-chopping hip-hop massage into her regimen, she could have a rather lucrative and thriving personal business. She could score all those dudes from the Chargers defensive line as clients. Homegirl has a rockin' body and is clearly very buff so I assume that she can use her strength to work those pulled groin muscles of the beefy athletes.

I could see Kendra going into personal training. With a specialty in training dirty old men. They'd love her, she could handle their inappropriate advances...match made in heaven.

Yeah, they always do this, which always causes my TiVo not to record GND. Boo! I have manually set it to record both episodes that are on tonight so that I won't miss the second one. From the sounds of things, I didn't miss much. I have DirecTV, so I think it's E! giving out inaccurate descriptions to the providers.

Hee! Yes, there is definitely something lecherous about Keith...however...I have to admit I raised an eyebrow at the episode where he was teaching the girls how to do the "bunny dip" back in the 60's. It looked like he wanted to put on a costume and grab a tray himself!

So, my dirty mind sort of saw this as "she can use her strength to work those groin muscles of the beefy athletes" - like in a jacking off sense.

maggy I hadn't intended it to read quite that way but dammit all, now you got the gears a workin'!

Random: is it wrong that Holly's 70s roller derby socks are growing on me? Dammit, they are cute.

Anybody catch the Primetime special tonight? If not, I'll give a quick recap and try to articulate a point in the next paragraph. ABC is airing a limited special called The Outsiders with each episode detailing different aspects of lifestyles we deem unusual or abnormal. The adjective choice is really semantics but I digress. This episode detailed two women in the porn industry. The first girl, Sunny Lane, is a 20-something 'good girl'/teen fantasy imaged porn star with an apparently huge fan base. She travels extensively and does plenty of movies too. She was portrayed on the show as coming from an upstanding home with supportive parents who, in a rather odd choice, not only relocated to live in her apartment but also actively manage their daughters blossiming career. They attend conventions and award shows, answer phones, bag her used and unwashed undergarments for later sell on a website (?!?), etc. as well as having a flock of handlers and attorneys at their beck and call. In their interview portion, they expressed no disappointment for their daughters choice in profession. They pointedly mention all the far more horrible things she could be doing rather than working in the 'entertainment' business. (An important point of note: at no point does Sunny refer to porn as 'porn' but rather uses the vague term of 'entertainment.') In perhaps the strangest portion of Sunny's bit on the show, her parents are seen at a convention inquiring about how to get a life-sized and anatomically correct doll made of their precious angel so that again, it can be sold on her website. I suppose the thought of some random guy boffing a rubber imitation of their child isn't an issue.

Ok, so here comes my point--hope I can make it clearly. Upthread, Hef's 80th birthday episode was discussed as was Bridget's strip-tease dry-run in front of her parents. While I'll certainly agree with everyone in that I think it's a strange choice of audience and there is no way I would ever dream of taking my clothes off in front of my father, Bridget seemed alright with it. Her stepdad didn't appear bothered by the scenario but maybe that's editing? But, she had already appeared naked in the magazine and most likely, everyone in her family had seen the pictures. She seems to have a rather open attitude about nudity in general as she dropped trow to skinny dip in another episode. So, to that, I say each his own. Anyway, I think that just because her stepfather watched her dance around in pasties doesn't make the dude a super-perv child molester. It's also important to recognize that Playboy isn't a hardcore magazine geared toward a sub-culture fetish community. From what I've seen, it's tastefully produced and the women aren't bound and gagged in photographs or placed in crass, lewd, or offensive poses. A naked chick riding a horse or licking an ice cream cone is obviously suggestive but all in all, the magazine is pretty tame. I'm just saying that supporting your child's choice to do Playboy is one thing and shopping around for a rubber vagina replica of your kid is another. Apples and oranges. That said, B. is still so my fave GND.

I just saw the horseback riding episode. Did anybody notice that Bridget has the Captain Morgan poster on the back of her bedroom door?

You can call it whatever you want, and it may have a cooler, but that day, Hef got an Amigo Cart. My great Aunt got one after she broke her hip.

Well I think you've got a point there. (And a funny one at that.) Are all these weird nudity and porno 'morals' giving anyone else a head ache? It just feels to me like when inmates argue that they may be crack dealers but at least they're not child molesters like the guy in the next cell. Depending on your environment and choices everything takes on its own relativism I guess.

I am personally thankful that my world is a litte more black and white. I think its nasty to pimp your kid out for porn, nasty to strip tease in front of your step dad and nasty to group screw an 80 year old stroke victim in exchange for room and board.

Keith always creeps me out.

And the Hef and the candy thing? He looked like a complete lunatic eyeballing that bag of goodies.

I think that it's telling that he shows more excitement and desire for that candy then he does for any of his girlfriends.

I saw the show, and actually respected the honesty of her parents, who said they themselves had enjoyed porn for decades. It seemed she had a decent relationship with her parents, so who better than them to be her managers? It did not appear that they had encouraged her to begin the porn career.

Let's face it, hardcore porn is a multi-billion dollar business, which means parents are bound to be buying it, and the women in porn are daughters of somebody. Similarly, Playboy is often read by fathers, and adult daughters appear in it. It would be hypocritical to support Playboy yet shun your own daughter for appearing in it.

I finally saw the second episode. The first half really was boring. However, when Kendra said her ass has never been so sore and then was like "uh...wait!" Lord. I almost fell off my couch laughing at her. I'm trying to figure out if she was being funny on purpose. She became my favorite last season, but I absolutely love her now. I feel that she's the least delusional of the trio, and I think she knows just what she's doing.I'm not positive she's as dumb as she comes off. I know someone else said that earlier in the week, and I agree.

Really not trying to throw this thread in a different direction here but...

Yes schoolyardninja, the hardcore porn business is a thriving one at that. However, I think there is a huge distinction between something like Playboy which, in my view, more titillates fantasy versus the hardcore film aspect which is a flat-out graphic genre. That's a really big distinction there. I just felt like the Sunny and her parents were highly idealizing and that their obvious side-line glee was rather disturbing. You didn't get a creepy vibe from that?


They may not have pushed her out on the street and forced her into it but I don't think it was mentioned that at any point did they express dissatisfaction with her choice to become a stripper. 'Mom, Dad--I got a job dancing topless down the street!' What parent would embrace that choice and respond with, 'Great honey, Dad and I will be there for your first shift!' I don't know, maybe this girl is an only child or something so perhaps her parents approve of every decision she makes in fear of her rejecting them.

Random question--I read somewhere that each Playmate can live in the Playmate house for up to 18 months. Anybody know if this is part and parcel of the Playmate tag? Well, in that maybe they get to live rent free, etc. in exchange for the Playmate moniker? Or are they 'employees' of Playboy Enterprises for that time therefore making appearances plugging product and the like. Just curious about any obligations these women might be required to fufill.